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Post by Spidyyr on May 28, 2018 23:31:56 GMT -5
For Kathleen. If you’re gonna fire a director for deviating from the script, that script better be pretty damn phenomenal.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 29, 2018 3:34:46 GMT -5
For Kathleen. If you’re gonna fire a director for deviating from the script, that script better be pretty damn phenomenal. One reviewer who did end up liking it said it was thanks to the cast cranking the charm up, despite the script being "Godawful". I mean, come on this was written by the guy who wrote The Bodyguard and his son. Kasdan is not the secret sauce people (and LucasFilm) make him out to be. |
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Post by Pinda on May 29, 2018 6:25:58 GMT -5
For Kathleen. If you’re gonna fire a director for deviating from the script, that script better be pretty damn phenomenal. One reviewer who did end up liking it said it was thanks to the cast cranking the charm up, despite the script being "Godawful". I mean, come on this was written by the guy who wrote The Bodyguard and his son. Kasdan is not the secret sauce people (and LucasFilm) make him out to be. I don't like Kasdan, I saw interviewswith him back when TFA had yet to be released and this guy just pretends like the prequels don't exist. He acted like he never even watched the movies. You cannot have a man who ignores half story have a major role in making these new films. |
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Post by Pinda on May 29, 2018 6:27:11 GMT -5
Well I think there's a lot of obvious reason why this movie isn't performing as expected at the box office and none of them exactly have to do with the quality of the film itself... 1) Solo was set to release in a stacked May month for movies. Infinity War and Deadpool 2 specifically, I do think Solo will have above average 2nd and 3rd weekends though. 2) The previous Star Wars movie was only 6 months ago, there's a certain fatigue for the franchise. I think long time fans are used to having Star Wars movies every few years and having 2 so close together is weird. I think this is an issue that Disney has to address. 1 movie a year is fine but they need to be distanced I think. 3) let's face it, TLJ was not well received by many fans and I have no doubt this is impacting Solo. 4) It's a spinoff. I don't think it's expected to perform as well as the main movies but should be performing better then it currently is for the Star Wars franchise. 5) Maybe this is just me but I thought the marketing was terrible for this film, we didn't get our first real trailer until like 4 months prior to release and I just didn't see that much advertising tbh. 6) I think a lot of people do not really care for a Han Solo spin-off in 2018. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 29, 2018 9:18:35 GMT -5
One reviewer who did end up liking it said it was thanks to the cast cranking the charm up, despite the script being "Godawful". I mean, come on this was written by the guy who wrote The Bodyguard and his son. Kasdan is not the secret sauce people (and LucasFilm) make him out to be. I don't like Kasdan, I saw interviewswith him back when TFA had yet to be released and this guy just pretends like the prequels don't exist. He acted like he never even watched the movies. You cannot have a man who ignores half story have a major role in making these new films. Yeah, I think I remember at that year's Comic-Con where he behaved like Plagueis never existed. I'm not saying he has to like the prequels, or that this sequels trilogy had to be closely tied to them, but would it really kill him to be less... flippant about it? |
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Post by Pinda on May 29, 2018 9:50:12 GMT -5
I don't like Kasdan, I saw interviewswith him back when TFA had yet to be released and this guy just pretends like the prequels don't exist. He acted like he never even watched the movies. You cannot have a man who ignores half story have a major role in making these new films. Yeah, I think I remember at that year's Comic-Con where he behaved like Plagueis never existed. I'm not saying he has to like the prequels, or that this sequels trilogy had to be closely tied to them, but would it really kill him to be less... flippant about it? Honestly I feel like maybe he really didn't know who Plagueis is... which is far worse. |
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Post by Newan on May 29, 2018 10:45:46 GMT -5
Well I think there's a lot of obvious reason why this movie isn't performing as expected at the box office and none of them exactly have to do with the quality of the film itself... 1) Solo was set to release in a stacked May month for movies. Infinity War and Deadpool 2 specifically, I do think Solo will have above average 2nd and 3rd weekends though. 2) The previous Star Wars movie was only 6 months ago, there's a certain fatigue for the franchise. I think long time fans are used to having Star Wars movies every few years and having 2 so close together is weird. I think this is an issue that Disney has to address. 1 movie a year is fine but they need to be distanced I think. 3) let's face it, TLJ was not well received by many fans and I have no doubt this is impacting Solo. 4) It's a spinoff. I don't think it's expected to perform as well as the main movies but should be performing better then it currently is for the Star Wars franchise. 5) Maybe this is just me but I thought the marketing was terrible for this film, we didn't get our first real trailer until like 4 months prior to release and I just didn't see that much advertising tbh. 6) I think a lot of people do not really care for a Han Solo spin-off in 2018. Not so much of a factor because you could easily swap Rouge One and Solo and probably get the opposite result for each. If Solo was the first spinoff it would have performed very high due to the novelty of new Star Wars movies and the success of TFA largely seen as a generally good addition to the franchise. If Rouge One was the spinoff following TLJ it would perform the same as Solo |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 29, 2018 10:55:06 GMT -5
6) I think a lot of people do not really care for a Han Solo spin-off in 2018. Not so much of a factor because you could easily swap Rouge One and Solo and probably get the opposite result for each. If Solo was the first spinoff it would have performed very high due to the novelty of new Star Wars movies and the success of TFA largely seen as a generally good addition to the franchise. If Rouge One was the spinoff following TLJ it would perform the same as Solo I think it’s relevant. From the moment a Han Solo movie was announced, people voiced their skepticism. People had an idea of what this movie was going to be and it didn’t excite them. |
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Post by Star on May 31, 2018 18:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on May 31, 2018 18:43:20 GMT -5
I think this was the best one A Star Wars Story |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 3, 2018 2:06:56 GMT -5
Looks like Solo is going to crash and burn in the box office, judging from its weekend drop, so while it's not official I'm going to say it: we are now living in a world where Star Wars can actually flop.
Still want to make this a trilogy, Disney?
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2018 7:19:14 GMT -5
So apparently Sam Witwer voices Maul in this movie... That's cool I guess.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2018 9:21:04 GMT -5
Looks like Solo is going to crash and burn in the box office, judging from its weekend drop, so while it's not official I'm going to say it: we are now living in a world where Star Wars can actually flop. Still want to make this a trilogy, Disney? DO IT |
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Post by Star on Jun 4, 2018 9:50:11 GMT -5
Looks like Solo is going to crash and burn in the box office, judging from its weekend drop, so while it's not official I'm going to say it: we are now living in a world where Star Wars can actually flop. Still want to make this a trilogy, Disney? AOTC, while still performing much better, seemed like a flop at the time, and that was 3 years after TPM. Solo did this well in a 2.5 year span and roughly 5 months after TLJ. However, alongside the other variables Newan mentioned, it's now clear that the effect of a movie with "Star Wars" in the title isn't enough to guarantee financial success, since there's other competition on its level. This box office performance most likely does not mean anything bad for the financial future of Star Wars movies, but instead provides Disney a better idea of what fans want and how to release films in the saga. It's silly to think Star Wars could be immortal with every film; just like the MCU and James Bond franchises, there will be at least one film that performs poorly. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 4, 2018 11:45:20 GMT -5
Movies can still be good even if box office isn't. People usually decide whether they want to watch something beforehand so it's really the marketing that messed up this one. I honestly did not even know the movie was called Solo until much later...
I think now they are going to listen to fans now though. Someone said "if you want more underworld movies like this let us know" or something like that.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 4, 2018 12:03:34 GMT -5
I am just glad this movie is not doing too well. Not because it is bad, I wouldn't know if it is bad, I haven't seen it, but it is good to see that more people stayed home after the disaster that was TLJ.
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 4, 2018 21:28:54 GMT -5
I read that R2 and C-3PO aren't in this... First movie not to have them which is okay because it would be hard to put them in every single movie... Honestly I hope one or both of them get destroyed in episode 9 because it's a little unrealistic for droids that are over 50 years to keep functioning and be used... They must be incredibly obsolete
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 5, 2018 10:55:25 GMT -5
Might finally see this today because it's exam week so I've been getting to skip a lot of days. Hopefully it's not crowded..
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 5, 2018 12:41:20 GMT -5
Might finally see this today because it's exam week so I've been getting to skip a lot of days. Hopefully it's not crowded.. Judging by the numbers, it won’t be. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 5, 2018 18:26:48 GMT -5
Saw it. It's my favorite Star Wars movie.
It's such a shame it flopped because it's way better than the sequels. But those being bad contributes to why this movie flopped... Anyways I honestly didn't have any problems with it. Like yeah there was the whole feminist droid's revolution shit which I just know Kathleen made them do... But it was tolerable. And it's actually an interesting idea even though it was rushed in this movie. I kind of thought droids were not really sentient but that wasn't ever set in stone. And it's probably possible with sophisticated programming to have droids that can beat the Turing test.
My favorite part was in the beginning where they show this epic battle with the Empire. It was very short but it was so badass. Wish they showed a little more Imperial stuff. It's kinda weird how evil they make the empire look because it's not very realistic... Like Stormtroopers need to chill with asking for ID seriously lol... But not a big issue.
But seriously I loved everything about this movie. It had some great dialogue and non cringe humor which I actually laughed at. Alden is a totally convincing Han in my book. Really liked Beckett's character and Qi'ra was lovely as well. I had some concern about Donald Glover as Lando initially but I'm not sure why. He pretty much nailed it. And it's not like we've seen that much of Lando so there's not an overly precise way the character should be portrayed. Dryden was cool, Paul Bettany could do a great Imperial Officer though. And I really appreciated all the name drops and references and familiar droids/aliens. Don't understand why the anthology films are fine with that stuff but the sequels always avoid it.
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 5, 2018 18:32:40 GMT -5
So maybe my one issue is they should've shown the planet names like in Rogue One because it's a little confusing. At times I wondered whether they had left a planet or were still on it...
Literally don't know their names but Mud World was cool and unique. Corellia was more Earth like and industrial than I expected. I always thought it would be like Alderaan or a toned down Coruscant or something. Not Scarif Beach Planet was... Nothing special. Snow Mountain Train world reminded me of Captain America honestly. But how the hell is space around Kessel so chaotic... It seems impossible to get through with all the clouds and... monsters... and shit... Again not very convincing but whatever it made the Kessel Run interesting.
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 5, 2018 18:34:06 GMT -5
I really want to get Han's lucky dice although since I drive a convertible I'm a little worried they might blow away... I'm assuming they sell those though, it'd be great merch. Hopefully they're reasonable priced
Edit: can't find like an official/reputable source for them... Some places charging up to $80 for their versions lmao what? Unless it's like actual gold
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Post by Newan on Jun 5, 2018 19:32:54 GMT -5
Saw it. It's my favorite Star Wars movie. It's such a shame it flopped because it's way better than the sequels. But those being bad contributes to why this movie flopped... Anyways I honestly didn't have any problems with it. Like yeah there was the whole feminist droid's revolution Potato Rules which I just know Kathleen made them do... But it was tolerable. And it's actually an interesting idea even though it was rushed in this movie. I kind of thought droids were not really sentient but that wasn't ever set in stone. And it's probably possible with sophisticated programming to have droids that can beat the Turing test. My favorite part was in the beginning where they show this epic battle with the Empire. It was very short but it was so badass. Wish they showed a little more Imperial stuff. It's kinda weird how evil they make the empire look because it's not very realistic... Like Stormtroopers need to chill with asking for ID seriously lol... But not a big issue. But seriously I loved everything about this movie. It had some great dialogue and non cringe humor which I actually laughed at. Alden is a totally convincing Han in my book. Really liked Beckett's character and Qi'ra was lovely as well. I had some concern about Donald Glover as Lando initially but I'm not sure why. He pretty much nailed it. And it's not like we've seen that much of Lando so there's not an overly precise way the character should be portrayed. Dryden was cool, Paul Bettany could do a great Imperial Officer though. And I really appreciated all the name drops and references and familiar droids/aliens. Don't understand why the anthology films are fine with that stuff but the sequels always avoid it. Yeah I loved the movie too. I might move it up to like 4th or 5th best in my tier list after I see it again. Not sure if it will be in theatres though. I loved the humour as well “there’s about 30 hires guns in that freighter” *flies away* lol and when Han puts his arm around Lando and the trashed Falcon is in the background. I loved the ending scene with Han and Lando playing again too |
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Post by Newan on Jun 5, 2018 19:33:49 GMT -5
So maybe my one issue is they should've shown the planet names like in Rogue One because it's a little confusing. At times I wondered whether they had left a planet or were still on it... Literally don't know their names but Mud World was cool and unique. Corellia was more Earth like and industrial than I expected. I always thought it would be like Alderaan or a toned down Coruscant or something. Not Scarif Beach Planet was... Nothing special. Snow Mountain Train world reminded me of Captain America honestly. But how the hell is space around Kessel so chaotic... It seems impossible to get through with all the clouds and... monsters... and Potato Rules... Again not very convincing but whatever it made the Kessel Run interesting. The space around Kessel is called “The Maw” this was established in the old EU tbh |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 5, 2018 20:09:39 GMT -5
Saw it. It's my favorite Star Wars movie. It's such a shame it flopped because it's way better than the sequels. But those being bad contributes to why this movie flopped... Anyways I honestly didn't have any problems with it. Like yeah there was the whole feminist droid's revolution Potato Rules which I just know Kathleen made them do... But it was tolerable. And it's actually an interesting idea even though it was rushed in this movie. I kind of thought droids were not really sentient but that wasn't ever set in stone. And it's probably possible with sophisticated programming to have droids that can beat the Turing test. My favorite part was in the beginning where they show this epic battle with the Empire. It was very short but it was so badass. Wish they showed a little more Imperial stuff. It's kinda weird how evil they make the empire look because it's not very realistic... Like Stormtroopers need to chill with asking for ID seriously lol... But not a big issue. But seriously I loved everything about this movie. It had some great dialogue and non cringe humor which I actually laughed at. Alden is a totally convincing Han in my book. Really liked Beckett's character and Qi'ra was lovely as well. I had some concern about Donald Glover as Lando initially but I'm not sure why. He pretty much nailed it. And it's not like we've seen that much of Lando so there's not an overly precise way the character should be portrayed. Dryden was cool, Paul Bettany could do a great Imperial Officer though. And I really appreciated all the name drops and references and familiar droids/aliens. Don't understand why the anthology films are fine with that stuff but the sequels always avoid it. Yeah I loved the movie too. I might move it up to like 4th or 5th best in my tier list after I see it again. Not sure if it will be in theatres though. I loved the humour as well “there’s about 30 hires guns in that freighter” *flies away* lol and when Han puts his arm around Lando and the trashed Falcon is in the background. I loved the ending scene with Han and Lando playing again too Yeah the scenes on the beach were the funniest. I also liked the very beginning scene where Han uses the rock as a thermal detonator. Pretty much every part with Han trying to bullshit his way out of a situation makes me smile. So maybe my one issue is they should've shown the planet names like in Rogue One because it's a little confusing. At times I wondered whether they had left a planet or were still on it... Literally don't know their names but Mud World was cool and unique. Corellia was more Earth like and industrial than I expected. I always thought it would be like Alderaan or a toned down Coruscant or something. Not Scarif Beach Planet was... Nothing special. Snow Mountain Train world reminded me of Captain America honestly. But how the hell is space around Kessel so chaotic... It seems impossible to get through with all the clouds and... monsters... and Potato Rules... Again not very convincing but whatever it made the Kessel Run interesting. The space around Kessel is called “The Maw” this was established in the old EU tbh Many of the names were hard to understand which is typically the case. Is why I like watching with subtitles. Now that I think about it it's kinda similar to Balmorra's Run from the Malavolence episodes which also had the cloud stuff and "monsters"... guess all these smuggler routes are like that |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 6, 2018 16:20:52 GMT -5
I'm finding more and more references in this movie. It's some real obscure shit too... Honestly I'm fucking proud of them for using lore masters so much for this movie. It actually feels like it was made by fans while TLJ felt like it was made by someone who's only read like IMDb summaries of some of the movies...
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Post by Newan on Jun 6, 2018 20:35:33 GMT -5
I'm finding more and more references in this movie. It's some real obscure Potato Rules too... Honestly I'm Potato is Awesomeing proud of them for using lore masters so much for this movie. It actually feels like it was made by fans while TLJ felt like it was made by someone who's only read like IMDb summaries of some of the movies... Tbh you seem to hate on Rebels a lot but there was a lot of canon and legends stuff in there as well. Which I liked in Solo too, so that’s probably why I like both more then the sequels |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 7, 2018 7:39:19 GMT -5
I'm finding more and more references in this movie. It's some real obscure Potato Rules too... Honestly I'm Potato is Awesomeing proud of them for using lore masters so much for this movie. It actually feels like it was made by fans while TLJ felt like it was made by someone who's only read like IMDb summaries of some of the movies... Tbh you seem to hate on Rebels a lot but there was a lot of canon and legends stuff in there as well. Which I liked in Solo too, so that’s probably why I like both more then the sequels Well the writing for Rebels was not the greatest... Theres other factors like that |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 14, 2018 1:03:54 GMT -5
Kinda wish they’d stop inventing new Stormtroopers for every movie. Like they’re all cool but they had some great opportunities to show some OT variants. Patrol trooper could’ve been replaced with a Scout trooper and he could’ve driven that brown speeder bike as well. Rangetroopers while kinda badass could’ve been Snowtroopers. Seeing modern versions of those armors would’ve been cool. Although maybe they thought Snowtroopers look like KKK..... lmao
Same goes for ships. I’d rather see them reuse the U-Wing and Imperial transport shuttle and other ones they made in like Rogue one and whatnot in another anthology instead of inventing new ones. Just connects the universe a bit better imo. Don’t get me wrong I like seeing the new stuff but still
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Post by Star on Jun 14, 2018 9:18:15 GMT -5
Kinda wish they’d stop inventing new Stormtroopers for every movie. Like they’re all cool but they had some great opportunities to show some OT variants. Patrol trooper could’ve been replaced with a Scout trooper and he could’ve driven that brown speeder bike as well. Rangetroopers while kinda badass could’ve been Snowtroopers. Seeing modern versions of those armors would’ve been cool. Although maybe they thought Snowtroopers look like KKK..... lmao Same goes for ships. I’d rather see them reuse the U-Wing and Imperial transport shuttle and other ones they made in like Rogue one and whatnot in another anthology instead of inventing new ones. Just connects the universe a bit better imo. Don’t get me wrong I like seeing the new stuff but still Keeping the same designs doesn't give the kids new toys to buy, you heartless monster!  |
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