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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jan 16, 2019 15:45:06 GMT -5
Yeah good point. Three SW movies are on Netflix that I haven’t seen. Might make for some good laughs. Like Pinda said, at least check out Rogue One and Solo. I think you'd like them, and in my opinion the spin-offs have been much better than the sequel trilogy (it's a shame they seem to be canning them though...). I somewhat forgot Spider hasn't seen most of these things Anyway, I echo Tater and Pinda's thoughts. Rogue One is a good film (not a great one, but damn that third act is stellar) and Solo is like some big budget SNL sketch at times, which is weirdly a good thing I find
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Post by Star on Jan 16, 2019 16:36:35 GMT -5
I'll go to theaters for IX. I want to see how it all ends, even if it turns out being bad. Plus, I don't think it's totally fair to hate on the ST when it's incomplete, even if TFA and TLJ aren't great films. Hypothetically, it's similar to bashing TPM and AOTC before the release of ROTS.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2019 17:37:43 GMT -5
I'll go to theaters for IX. I want to see how it all ends, even if it turns out being bad. Plus, I don't think it's totally fair to hate on the ST when it's incomplete, even if TFA and TLJ aren't great films. Hypothetically, it's similar to bashing TPM and AOTC before the release of ROTS. Yeah, but to be honest... I don't care how it ends. The Sequels showed us next to nothing of the Star Wars universe. I have no idea what impact any of the events in TFA and TLJ had on the galaxy, so I am not invested in that. There is only the characters, and all of the characters in the Sequels are flat and boring (except maybe Kylo). They have no personality, they have no development, I don't care about them. They can kill them all off in the last episode or they can have Rey triumph, I really don't care either way. And TLJ was a horrible movie, no matter how hard they try to fix it in with Episode 9. So I don't feel like rewarding Disney for that by giving them money again.
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 16, 2019 20:39:19 GMT -5
Is anybody even going to watch this movie? I feel an obligation to do so because it's Star Wars. I'll probably watch it in theaters maybe a few weeks after release. I know fuck Disney and everything but not following any new Star Wars content feels weird lol
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 27, 2019 16:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 27, 2019 16:47:54 GMT -5
It looks like the Rebels season 3 poster.
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 27, 2019 16:48:32 GMT -5
And don’t worry. I’m sure the Knights will be just as disappointing as everything else in these movies.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 27, 2019 17:11:24 GMT -5
It looks like the Rebels season 3 poster. Well that was a bit better because it had a more characters I actually gave a damn about.
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 27, 2019 17:23:52 GMT -5
It looks like the Rebels season 3 poster. Well that was a bit better because it had a more characters I actually gave a damn about. As much as I dislike Rebels, one has Darth Maul and one does not.
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 27, 2019 20:04:48 GMT -5
Yeah... Kinda sucks.. Don't have a reason as to why, it just does lmao.... Interesting to note there is no Leia
I don't know why I just don't care about or even like these new characters. Like Anakin is such an epic and tragic character. I don't like Luke as much as him but even he went through his own journey. Rey's journey I just can't care about. It's not that interesting. I'm not really even sure what it is tbh, desperately traveling the galaxy to find someone that will parent her? Why does she even want to be a Jedi? Why does she care? I feel like Anakin and Luke were motivated to help others and that was a big part of wanting to be a Jedi but Rey's reasons seem selfish. I'm not really sure what I'm rambling on about here I'm just thinking out loud I guess...
I guess my main problem is it's just bad storytelling. TFA was a copy/paste plot and TLJ was just a mess. It doesn't matter what IX is about. How they decided to continue the story from ROTJ is not good imo. It's nothing clever or engaging or interesting it's the plot from a 12 year old fanboy. Not what I expected from JJ but I guess his reason was he was trying to play it safe. I hope he does something better this time. Also couple the bad story with the social politics it just sucks. Maybe the social politics aren't that obvious but I can feel them. I feel them in most mainstream movies these days, marvel and whatnot. I don't want to think the times have changed. I know people can still make good stories without shoving some bullshit down throats. But maybe the blockbuster people can't
Idk guys
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2019 12:39:55 GMT -5
Have at it! If I'm honest... I'm not feeling it. For something that's meant to be the grand, epic finale to a nine part saga, it certainly doesn't feel it. Almost looks like a Mad Max in space movie There's just no real buzz, save for the crazy ending. Bringing back Palpatine is a pretty cheap way and getting attention, but we need a new big bad and Kylo Ren kinda sucks at it, so here we are
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 12:43:20 GMT -5
Sheev is back? I mean I would love to see him on screen again... but this seems kind of stupid... also kind of makes episode 6 irrelevant. Still, I guess I have to watch it now. I promised myself I would only watch new Star Wars movies in cinema if Sheev or a TCW character was in it... so... if he really is back and they aren't trolling us...
Still it is really stupid to bring him back out of nowhere. If the last two episodes had hinted at his return it would have been slightly better...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2019 12:45:45 GMT -5
Sheev is back? I mean I would love to see him on screen again... but this seems kind of stupid... also kind of makes episode 6 irrelevant. Still, I guess I have to watch it now. I promised myself I would only watch new Star Wars movies in cinema if Sheev or a TCW character was in it... so... if he really is back and they aren't trolling us... Still it is really stupid to bring him back out of nowhere. If the last two episodes had hinted at his return it would have been slightly better... This is just another big reminder of how this trilogy has suffered massively from a lack of planning. Really, they should have just hired JJ to do all three. At least then you can be guaranteed some consistency in plotting.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 12, 2019 12:46:47 GMT -5
The Rise of Skywalker.... Okay. Not really sure what to think. I think it was mostly just action scenes so can't really get an idea of the story yet. But Palpatine...? That's... Unexpected.. I would've just retconned Snoke's death tbh. Still holding out hope for an Anakin appearance
Also the trailer felt a lot like the TFA trailer. Think they reused the This Christmas card as well lol
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 12:50:51 GMT -5
Also, which Skywalker are they referring to? Kylo is a Solo. Leia goes by Organa (and is probably not going to have a major role unfortunately). So... Did Anakin return from the grave? Is Rey a Skywalker? Is the title just completely stupid, like Last Jedi was? This trilogy is going to be such a mess when it is done.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 12, 2019 12:53:22 GMT -5
Think Lando's wearing that same yellow shirt from Solo lol.. Holy shit all these things thrown in with no background or build up... This trilogy is just a fucking disaster. Even with a shitty plot/premise, the smallest ounce of planning would've made it a little bit better.
I don't think I like the Rise of Skywalker title. Sounds like a fan film title. Everything about the trilogy makes me associate it with a weird fan film idea. The only difference is high budget for special effects and whatnot
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Post by Potato on Apr 12, 2019 12:53:44 GMT -5
Even though JJ was originally not going to do any more after Force Awakens, I feel like he at least some ideas of what would happen with Snoke. And I feel like he's switched those ideas over to Palpatine now that Snoke's been killed off.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 12, 2019 12:55:38 GMT -5
I'm hoping whatever that weird foggy mountain thing was at the end is a cool part of the movie. It's good when the main gang goes on some journey. Having Rey, Poe, and Finn all there together has to be something decent
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Post by Potato on Apr 12, 2019 12:56:04 GMT -5
I'm hoping whatever that weird foggy mountain thing was at the end is a cool part of the movie. It's good when the main gang goes on some journey. Having Rey, Poe, and Finn all there together has to be something decent Pretty sure that's the remains of the Death Star.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2019 12:57:46 GMT -5
I swear, if they come across Palpatine's corpse and find it hasn't been disintegrated into nothing, then I do believe the suspension of disbelief will have been stretched to breaking point
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 12:58:40 GMT -5
If Palpatine is back this trailer also kind of ruined the surprise...
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 12, 2019 12:59:37 GMT -5
I'm hoping whatever that weird foggy mountain thing was at the end is a cool part of the movie. It's good when the main gang goes on some journey. Having Rey, Poe, and Finn all there together has to be something decent Pretty sure that's the remains of the Death Star. Oh shit.... They're going to the Death Star to find Palpatine? If this is true this might actually be kind of epic.... I wonder what form to expect Sheev in. I never considered parts of either Death Star to still remain. It makes sense though the whole thing wouldn't 100% disintegrate
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Post by Potato on Apr 12, 2019 13:01:50 GMT -5
Pretty sure that's the remains of the Death Star. Oh Potato Rules.... They're going to the Death Star to find Palpatine? If this is true this might actually be kind of epic.... I wonder what form to expect Sheev in. I never considered parts of either Death Star to still remain. It makes sense though the whole thing wouldn't 100% disintegrate Yeah, it's kind of awkward because the effects from Return of the Jedi make it look like it disintegrated... but I think that's just because of the effects of the time. Like you said it's more realistic that some debris would fall on Endor.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2019 13:19:04 GMT -5
Also, though I know he's just because marketing want a new toy, I will admit I quite like D-O. Looks and sounds like something from the Clangers
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 12, 2019 13:21:19 GMT -5
Lowkey I think Palpatine playing a role in the sequels could potentially work if done right. He is basically the main villain of the entire saga. Bringing him back for the end is poetic and Star Wars is like poetry, it rhymes.
I doubt this would happen but it would be dope to see Luke and Anakin fighting him in some form. A fight that is not in the physical realm may seem a little pointless but they could do some creative writing to make it work. Something similar to Mortis perhaps. But you know Rey has to be there somehow.... It's like having to include Ezra in the Maul and Obi-Wan duel in Rebels ugh
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 12, 2019 13:24:50 GMT -5
Also, though I know he's just because marketing want a new toy, I will admit I quite like D-O. Looks and sounds like something from the Clangers Is that the blowtorch looking droid thing next to BB-8? Jeez what is this obsession with cute little sidekicks.. I mean I get it's for toys or kids or whatever but I wish it wasn't like that.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 13:26:06 GMT -5
Lowkey I think Palpatine playing a role in the sequels could potentially work if done right. He is basically the main villain of the entire saga. Bringing him back for the end is poetic and Star Wars is like poetry, it rhymes. I doubt this would happen but it would be dope to see Luke and Anakin fighting him in some form. A fight that is not in the physical realm may seem a little pointless but they could do some creative writing to make it work. Something similar to Mortis perhaps. But you know Rey has to be there somehow.... It's like having to include Ezra in the Maul and Obi-Wan duel in Rebels ugh I agree that Palpatine is the main villain... But he died in Return of the Jedi. Vader killing his master and redeeming himself was the entire point of the first two trilogies. To revive Palpatine would mean this is all irrelevant now. Also, I guess Anakin was not really the Chosen one then. They basically continued a story without the main character and the main villain... and only three movies in they realized their mistake and shoehorned in Palpatine. And yeah, even with Palpatine we would still have to deal with characters like Rey and Poe...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2019 13:27:06 GMT -5
Lowkey I think Palpatine playing a role in the sequels could potentially work if done right. He is basically the main villain of the entire saga. Bringing him back for the end is poetic and Star Wars is like poetry, it rhymes. I doubt this would happen but it would be dope to see Luke and Anakin fighting him in some form. A fight that is not in the physical realm may seem a little pointless but they could do some creative writing to make it work. Something similar to Mortis perhaps. But you know Rey has to be there somehow.... It's like having to include Ezra in the Maul and Obi-Wan duel in Rebels ugh Your comment on Rey and Ezra simply reminds me of how much I hate when a film will try and shove the importance onto a new generation that's not as engaging as the old guard. I'd quite like it if they flipped it on its head and let the older guys have their last hurrah, not kill them off one by one and get replaced by less interesting newbies.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2019 13:29:31 GMT -5
Also, though I know he's just because marketing want a new toy, I will admit I quite like D-O. Looks and sounds like something from the Clangers Is that the blowtorch looking droid thing next to BB-8? Jeez what is this obsession with cute little sidekicks.. I mean I get it's for toys or kids or whatever but I wish it wasn't like that. Gotta remember its the toys that act as Star Wars' greatest money spinner and their sales have been dropping constantly since TLJ. They need something other than another Tie and X-Wing to advertise and since this is Disney, a cute sidekick is the first thing on their minds.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2019 13:32:26 GMT -5
Lowkey I think Palpatine playing a role in the sequels could potentially work if done right. He is basically the main villain of the entire saga. Bringing him back for the end is poetic and Star Wars is like poetry, it rhymes. I doubt this would happen but it would be dope to see Luke and Anakin fighting him in some form. A fight that is not in the physical realm may seem a little pointless but they could do some creative writing to make it work. Something similar to Mortis perhaps. But you know Rey has to be there somehow.... It's like having to include Ezra in the Maul and Obi-Wan duel in Rebels ugh I agree that Palpatine is the main villain... But he died in Return of the Jedi. Vader killing his master and redeeming himself was the entire point of the first two trilogies. To revive Palpatine would mean this is all irrelevant now. Also, I guess Anakin was not really the Chosen one then. They basically continued a story without the main character and the main villain... and only three movies in they realized their mistake and shoehorned in Palpatine. And yeah, even with Palpatine we would still have to deal with characters like Rey and Poe... If they try and rope in the prequels by saying "Surprise, Rey's the real Chosen One!" that would be such a brilliant way in ticking off the fans once again...
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