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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Dec 21, 2016 13:50:39 GMT -5
So which did you like better? I say rouge one because it was a cool movie and I thought Jyn was good and not like Rey who can do anything... Also it wasn't really as rehashed as TFA was... And K2SO was funnier then bb8 IMO.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Dec 21, 2016 13:59:54 GMT -5
Also yeah I guess RO spoilers can be posted in this thread IDK @potato
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Post by Pinda on Dec 21, 2016 14:02:17 GMT -5
Also yeah I guess RO spoilers can be posted in this thread IDK @potato It's in the title so it should be fine. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 21, 2016 14:06:32 GMT -5
Hmm... it's a hard question to answer...
I think I was more hyped for TFA and I was more intrigued by the mysteries around Snoke, Luke and Rey. And on top of that it was the first new Star Wars movie in 10 years. I guess these factors influenced my opinion on it. But I feel like I enjoyed TFA more even though Rogue One is the superior movie in my opinion... TFA was pretty much like A New Hope, nothing original. Rogue One managed to create something truly original that still felt like Star Wars and it also took a much darker road than we are used to from Star Wars. So I think I would have to vote for Rogue One.
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Post by Potato on Dec 21, 2016 14:08:53 GMT -5
Yeah, spoilers should be fine.
Tough question though. I still need to see Rogue One a second time to really make up my mind. I think I enjoyed TFA more, but only because there was more hype for it. Like Pinda said, Rogue One was probably the better movie. I'm slightly leaning towards Rogue One... but like I said, I need to see it again before I definitely decide.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Dec 21, 2016 14:14:30 GMT -5
Also these kinds of threads are allowed right... As long as it's respectful and doesn't get out of hand... Because on jcf these kinds of threads get locked because it can get crazy there lol but this place is more relaxed... I agree with what pinda said.. I also thought ONE of the reasons this was better was because they killed all the characters which was never been done and was a cool twist. (All though this is a standalone so they could afford to do that)
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Dec 21, 2016 14:15:30 GMT -5
Also I keep thinking Soraz is Newan lol even though it's you pinda.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Dec 21, 2016 14:18:56 GMT -5
Hmm... it's a hard question to answer... I think I was more hyped for TFA and I was more intrigued by the mysteries around Snoke, Luke and Rey. And on top of that it was the first new Star Wars movie in 10 years. I guess these factors influenced my opinion on it. But I feel like I enjoyed TFA more even though Rogue One is the superior movie in my opinion... TFA was pretty much like A New Hope, nothing original. Rogue One managed to create something truly original that still felt like Star Wars and it also took a much darker road than we are used to from Star Wars. So I think I would have to vote for Rogue One. yeah, TFA was more enjoyable because it was adventurous... Where as this is more serious... |
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Post by Potato on Dec 21, 2016 15:15:46 GMT -5
Also these kinds of threads are allowed right... As long as it's respectful and doesn't get out of hand... Because on jcf these kinds of threads get locked because it can get crazy there lol but this place is more relaxed... I agree with what pinda said.. I also thought ONE of the reasons this was better was because they killed all the characters which was never been done and was a cool twist. (All though this is a standalone so they could afford to do that) We aren't thread nazis here.  Plus new threads barely get made anymore anyway so it's nice to see new ones. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2016 18:33:36 GMT -5
Tbh the big thing that really stand out to me is Rey vs Jyn... Rey is way too perfect, she is good at everything... and can mind trick and stuff without knowing what the force is. She expertly flys and repairs the Falcon... and even with Kylos injuries he shouldn't have lost to Rey.
Rey is honestly like full on girl power Mary Sue... Jyn actually felt a lot more like a real character and it was the first non force user protagonist. I also really liked Cassian over Finn.
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Post by bane on Dec 21, 2016 22:02:54 GMT -5
Overall I like how neatly Rogue One fit into place between the 3rd and 4th movie... it had a plot that was creative, but still fit into the chronology of star wars really well. Obviously TFA had a recycled plot.
I agree with Newan... I feel like Rogue One's characters were just better in general.
I liked the TFA because it was the classic Jedi vs. Sith good vs. evil fight which is really fun to watch and gets your blood pumping.
Overall I like them both a lot for different reasons but Rogue One was a little better.
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Post by Potato on Dec 21, 2016 23:08:38 GMT -5
Tbh the big thing that really stand out to me is Rey vs Jyn... Rey is way too perfect, she is good at everything... and can mind trick and stuff without knowing what the force is. She expertly flys and repairs the Falcon... and even with Kylos injuries he shouldn't have lost to Rey. Rey is honestly like full on girl power Mary Sue... Jyn actually felt a lot more like a real character and it was the first non force user protagonist. I also really liked Cassian over Finn. I agree about Jyn... she was actually a really good character. It's funny that we're saying this now because I think you and I really didn't like her after that first teaser. This is at least a good thing to do a 180 on. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2016 0:17:44 GMT -5
Tbh the big thing that really stand out to me is Rey vs Jyn... Rey is way too perfect, she is good at everything... and can mind trick and stuff without knowing what the force is. She expertly flys and repairs the Falcon... and even with Kylos injuries he shouldn't have lost to Rey. Rey is honestly like full on girl power Mary Sue... Jyn actually felt a lot more like a real character and it was the first non force user protagonist. I also really liked Cassian over Finn. I agree about Jyn... she was actually a really good character. It's funny that we're saying this now because I think you and I really didn't like her after that first teaser. This is at least a good thing to do a 180 on. Yeah we did, the trailers just didn't really do her justice IMO, it took her more cringeworthy lines and bad takes and threw them in. "This is a Rebellion isn't it? I Rebel" I hated that trailer line... and did she even say that in the movie? But I really liked all the Rebels, Jyn, Cassian, Chirrut, Baze and K2 where all pretty good, I'll admit I was semi disappointed with the villains |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2016 0:18:42 GMT -5
Overall I like how neatly Rogue One fit into place between the 3rd and 4th movie... it had a plot that was creative, but still fit into the chronology of star wars really well. Obviously TFA had a recycled plot. I agree with Newan... I feel like Rogue One's characters were just better in general. I liked the TFA because it was the classic Jedi vs. Sith good vs. evil fight which is really fun to watch and gets your blood pumping. Overall I like them both a lot for different reasons but Rogue One was a little better. Rouge One was that classic OT as well, which I really like |
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Post by Potato on Dec 22, 2016 11:58:40 GMT -5
I agree about Jyn... she was actually a really good character. It's funny that we're saying this now because I think you and I really didn't like her after that first teaser. This is at least a good thing to do a 180 on. Yeah we did, the trailers just didn't really do her justice IMO, it took her more cringeworthy lines and bad takes and threw them in. "This is a Rebellion isn't it? I Rebel" I hated that trailer line... and did she even say that in the movie? But I really liked all the Rebels, Jyn, Cassian, Chirrut, Baze and K2 where all pretty good, I'll admit I was semi disappointed with the villains They took that line out. I still don't like it so I'm happy they did. I agree about Krennic though. He was good, but I think they should have had him do more. He also sort of got overshadowed by Tarkin and Vader. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2016 12:14:13 GMT -5
Yeah we did, the trailers just didn't really do her justice IMO, it took her more cringeworthy lines and bad takes and threw them in. "This is a Rebellion isn't it? I Rebel" I hated that trailer line... and did she even say that in the movie? But I really liked all the Rebels, Jyn, Cassian, Chirrut, Baze and K2 where all pretty good, I'll admit I was semi disappointed with the villains They took that line out. I still don't like it so I'm happy they did. I agree about Krennic though. He was good, but I think they should have had him do more. He also sort of got overshadowed by Tarkin and Vader. I want to read Catalyst, apparently it makes Krennic a lot more interesting. But yeah he did get overshadowed by Vader and Tarkin, Vaders last scene was cooler then anything Krennic did. |
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Post by squiggy on Dec 24, 2016 15:23:53 GMT -5
Well as always I'm usually the last to pipe in about these kinds of things but I wasn't overly pleased about the movie TBH, still good but I definitely thought that TFA was better in my opinion. This basically sums up perfectly my thoughts exactly to save some time. Yet again another Death Star Plot! www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/12/17/the-5-biggest-problems-with-star-wars-rogue-one/#216dacf37b09What I did like about it though is that they did a great job to the best of there ability replicating Tarkin and obviously Vader, but also his voice as well. I liked how the movie played into the 4th very well and showed the events leading up to A New Hope. I thought the scene at the very end was pretty neat showing Vader go ham, he seemed less stiff and more agile in this one and it was cool to see him in the bacta tank, other versus just the back of his head in a certain scene in the movie. I liked the character played by Donnie Yen very much, it was cool to see his style of fighting implemented throughout the film, (given his status as a Martial artists I wasn't surprised about his fighting style in the movie, as a side note he did a great job in the IP man series ). The movie wasn't bad but to me it only earned 6 of 10 stars. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 24, 2016 15:30:40 GMT -5
Well as always I'm usually the last to pipe in about these kinds of things but I wasn't overly pleased about the movie TBH, still good but I definitely thought that TFA was better in my opinion. This basically sums up perfectly my thoughts exactly to save some time. Yet again another Death Star Plot! www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/12/17/the-5-biggest-problems-with-star-wars-rogue-one/#216dacf37b09What I did like about it though is that they did a great job to the best of there ability replicating Tarkin and obviously Vader, but also his voice as well. I liked how the movie played into the 4th very well and showed the events leading up to A New Hope. I thought the scene at the very end was pretty neat showing Vader go ham, he seemed less stiff and more agile in this one and it was cool to see him in the bacta tank, other versus just the back of his head in a certain scene in the movie. I liked the character played by Donnie Yen very much, it was cool to see his style of fighting implemented throughout the film, (given his status as a Martial artists I wasn't surprised about his fighting style in the movie, as a side note he did a great job in the IP man series ). The movie wasn't bad but to me it only earned 6 of 10 stars. Well yeah... it's a side story about the Death Star... but that's what this movie is a side story. TFA should get a lot more flak for having another Death Star plot then this movie, and this movie taught us a lot about the Death Star then the OT. I saw that Forbes list, but Forbes is a bunch of idiots so I didn't take it too seriously |
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Post by squiggy on Dec 24, 2016 15:47:48 GMT -5
Well as always I'm usually the last to pipe in about these kinds of things but I wasn't overly pleased about the movie TBH, still good but I definitely thought that TFA was better in my opinion. This basically sums up perfectly my thoughts exactly to save some time. Yet again another Death Star Plot! www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/12/17/the-5-biggest-problems-with-star-wars-rogue-one/#216dacf37b09What I did like about it though is that they did a great job to the best of there ability replicating Tarkin and obviously Vader, but also his voice as well. I liked how the movie played into the 4th very well and showed the events leading up to A New Hope. I thought the scene at the very end was pretty neat showing Vader go ham, he seemed less stiff and more agile in this one and it was cool to see him in the bacta tank, other versus just the back of his head in a certain scene in the movie. I liked the character played by Donnie Yen very much, it was cool to see his style of fighting implemented throughout the film, (given his status as a Martial artists I wasn't surprised about his fighting style in the movie, as a side note he did a great job in the IP man series ). The movie wasn't bad but to me it only earned 6 of 10 stars. Well yeah... it's a side story about the Death Star... but that's what this movie is a side story. TFA should get a lot more flak for having another Death Star plot then this movie, and this movie taught us a lot about the Death Star then the OT. I saw that Forbes list, but Forbes is a bunch of idiots so I didn't take it too seriously Well, being that episode 7 was Death Star related I thought they should've done a side story on Boba Fett (which whatever happened to that rumor?) in place of Rogue One. Since episode 7 already took the Death Star spotlight, I think they could've have focused there attention elsewhere and explore something new in place of what we saw. Although the links between the two movies was clear and crisp, so I think originally they should've left the remaining Death Star plot to this movie and done something entirely new to start episode 7 with. I was hoping they would've mentioned Steela or a TCW reference BTW when we got to the scenes with Saw for kicks but there really wasn't any relevance or need really. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 24, 2016 19:18:03 GMT -5
Well yeah... it's a side story about the Death Star... but that's what this movie is a side story. TFA should get a lot more flak for having another Death Star plot then this movie, and this movie taught us a lot about the Death Star then the OT. I saw that Forbes list, but Forbes is a bunch of idiots so I didn't take it too seriously Well, being that episode 7 was Death Star related I thought they should've done a side story on Boba Fett (which whatever happened to that rumor?) in place of Rogue One. Since episode 7 already took the Death Star spotlight, I think they could've have focused there attention elsewhere and explore something new in place of what we saw. Although the links between the two movies was clear and crisp, so I think originally they should've left the remaining Death Star plot to this movie and done something entirely new to start episode 7 with. I was hoping they would've mentioned Steela or a TCW reference BTW when we got to the scenes with Saw for kicks but there really wasn't any relevance or need really. Rouge One did the plot better though, it was much different from Episode 4,6 or 7 as it wasn't about destroying the Death Star, and we saw it much better from the enemy perspective this time as well. Boba Fett is still a rumor, and some think it will happen in 2018 or 2019. After the Han movie. |
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Post by Star on Dec 27, 2016 13:39:03 GMT -5
TFA is good because it introduces us to characters we can see grow and develop over two more films. Plus it incorporates characters from the OT. Rogue One was much more original and darker, which I really like, but some of the characters were not developed as well as they could have been (which sucks since they are a really cool cast). They way Rogue One fits into the saga and brought OT nostalgia in a different way was great too. As for TFA, it was not as original but is surely a very good intro to what is hopefully an amazing trilogy.
I think Rogue One was slightly better due to a darker, more original story, as well as how it fits right before ANH, but TFA is superior in the grand scheme of things (hopefully, but this isn't completely true until Episodes 8 and 9 release).
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Plus new threads barely get made anymore anyway so it's nice to see new ones.
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