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Post by red on Jul 9, 2016 23:38:11 GMT -5
SO looks like you guys don't trust me because I opposed the no vote, and expressed so soon after Yorick brought it up. Well, has not voting really gotten us anywhere? The scum just killed someone who is fairly neutral so we wouldn't have any leads. I think Yorick brings up a good point that people are very trusting of Jhin's meaningless claim. I'm NOT saying that he is scum, but it is certainly possible and not many besides Yorick have really acknowledged this.
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Post by red on Jul 9, 2016 23:41:10 GMT -5
Also: Who wouldn't trust a beard like this?
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Post by Newan on Jul 10, 2016 0:03:42 GMT -5
SO looks like you guys don't trust me because I opposed the no vote, and expressed so soon after Yorick brought it up. Well, has not voting really gotten us anywhere? The scum just killed someone who is fairly neutral so we wouldn't have any leads. I think Yorick brings up a good point that people are very trusting of Jhin's meaningless claim. I'm NOT saying that he is scum, but it is certainly possible and not many besides Yorick have really acknowledged this. Uh huh...
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 6:45:16 GMT -5
So in that case Yorick is probably the best vote then Wait, what? Why?
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 6:46:21 GMT -5
Two options: 1) Vote Jhin -If he comes up loyal, and we lose a loyal by murder, that leaves 4 people. If two are scum, they win. -If Jhin is scum, yay 2) Vote Yorick/Saul -If he comes up loyal... ok same thing happens for either So what exactly is the evidence against me? Saul I can see, Rocko suspected him... but how do I tie into that?
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 6:47:45 GMT -5
I imagine that, if Jhin was scum, he would kill you or Saul because you two [sorta] accused him. He had a private PM with Rocko who trusted him, so why kill him? Unless that was his plan to frame you. hm. Well like I told you in our PM, I just didn't feel Rocko was scum. I never even accused him once actually (ok maybe once I think), or considered him thus far. Knowing me If I was scum I'd imagine I wouldn't have been that obvious to come out and say he was a loyal, I would have at least put some kind of suspicion on him, but truthfully when I made my plan for yesterday I was expecting that if Rocko was loyal he would die, not much could be done to prevent that, the other scenario would have been the scum would chance killing me... Leaving us back in the same spot as yesterday. But I'm certain the scum would rather try and vote me. Wouldn't that be smart as scum? Claiming you don't think Rocko is loyal (for no real reason, because there was no real evidence on the matter) and then murdering him to proof you were right to win Frank's trust.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 6:49:24 GMT -5
If I recall correctly Brick was the only one that answered that question because really there was nothing to respond with. Potato is a good player that is a good option to kill in any situation in any game... he also accused Raccoon but you seem to have ignored that? Doesn't the Raccoon have the same motive as I do if your logic works>? I couldn't risk posting too much, so I said my answer to Frank only. And I said you, BEFORE Rocko did. Yes the Raccoon was Rockos other suspicion but you where the primary it seems. Right now I can connect Yorick to the Raccoon because they both practically said the same thing about voting and waited. I connect you to Yorick since you just seem kind of similar... Both don't vote, seems like you're both being too careful.
The Tree is just there, idk why he's being inactive I was going to vote, but I wanted Spider to answer my question first and then I missed voting. But how does not voting even matter here? You guys all voted for none... so that's not very different.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 6:53:20 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Jhin is hiding something. Whether he is scum, or it is something else I don't know. But I don't see hwy he would be in so many PMs? Usually a loyal helper would not go and chat with people in PM... I didn't... because I have no idea who I could trust beyond Frank... but he has no reason to trust me, and neither have the rest of you. So why would a loyal helper have several PMs? And why he still didn't really tell us about his PM with Rocko... even if he told Frank in PM he is holding back evidence for the rest of us.
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Post by bane on Jul 10, 2016 10:20:10 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Jhin is hiding something. Whether he is scum, or it is something else I don't know. But I don't see hwy he would be in so many PMs? Usually a loyal helper would not go and chat with people in PM... I didn't... because I have no idea who I could trust beyond Frank... but he has no reason to trust me, and neither have the rest of you. So why would a loyal helper have several PMs? And why he still didn't really tell us about his PM with Rocko... even if he told Frank in PM he is holding back evidence for the rest of us. Honestly Newan does that every game (that may be OCC evidence but still)
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Post by bane on Jul 10, 2016 10:24:35 GMT -5
SO looks like you guys don't trust me because I opposed the no vote, and expressed so soon after Yorick brought it up. Well, has not voting really gotten us anywhere? The scum just killed someone who is fairly neutral so we wouldn't have any leads. I think Yorick brings up a good point that people are very trusting of Jhin's meaningless claim. I'm NOT saying that he is scum, but it is certainly possible and not many besides Yorick have really acknowledged this. What do you mean by what is bolded above?
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 10, 2016 11:18:06 GMT -5
Idk man
Yorick could be scum
But it's also possible he's not
But maybe he is
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Post by Newan on Jul 10, 2016 11:27:09 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Jhin is hiding something. Whether he is scum, or it is something else I don't know. But I don't see hwy he would be in so many PMs? Usually a loyal helper would not go and chat with people in PM... I didn't... because I have no idea who I could trust beyond Frank... but he has no reason to trust me, and neither have the rest of you. So why would a loyal helper have several PMs? And why he still didn't really tell us about his PM with Rocko... even if he told Frank in PM he is holding back evidence for the rest of us. What "evidence"?? That's like the weirdest argument ever... Loyal helpers can use PMs OOC: I have done it like every game...
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Post by Newan on Jul 10, 2016 11:31:17 GMT -5
Well like I told you in our PM, I just didn't feel Rocko was scum. I never even accused him once actually (ok maybe once I think), or considered him thus far. Knowing me If I was scum I'd imagine I wouldn't have been that obvious to come out and say he was a loyal, I would have at least put some kind of suspicion on him, but truthfully when I made my plan for yesterday I was expecting that if Rocko was loyal he would die, not much could be done to prevent that, the other scenario would have been the scum would chance killing me... Leaving us back in the same spot as yesterday. But I'm certain the scum would rather try and vote me. Wouldn't that be smart as scum? Claiming you don't think Rocko is loyal (for no real reason, because there was no real evidence on the matter) and then murdering him to proof you were right to win Frank's trust. It's not much too prove someone's loyal... But nah that's way too straight forward and obvious for me lol. Tbh I would have preferred Rocko being alive maybe even over Frank, I think we were both on the same page and it seems my trust was not misplaced...
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 11:37:20 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Jhin is hiding something. Whether he is scum, or it is something else I don't know. But I don't see hwy he would be in so many PMs? Usually a loyal helper would not go and chat with people in PM... I didn't... because I have no idea who I could trust beyond Frank... but he has no reason to trust me, and neither have the rest of you. So why would a loyal helper have several PMs? And why he still didn't really tell us about his PM with Rocko... even if he told Frank in PM he is holding back evidence for the rest of us. What "evidence"?? That's like the weirdest argument ever... Loyal helpers can use PMs OOC: I have done it like every game... You can use PMs, but what are you hoping to achieve with those PMs? And why would you not sure the information about Rocko you have in your PM with him?
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 11:40:08 GMT -5
Idk man Yorick could be scum But it's also possible he's not But maybe he is I don't even know why I became a suspect... for not voting? It's obvious I asked Spider if not voting would allow the scum to convict someone with one vote first... I didn't want to vote before that to make sure the scum couldn't just take down someone like Frank (or me) but it was like 2:30 AM here when he answered and I didn't really go on the forum anymore at that time. When I woke up a majority had already been reached.
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Post by bane on Jul 10, 2016 11:46:12 GMT -5
What "evidence"?? That's like the weirdest argument ever... Loyal helpers can use PMs OOC: I have done it like every game... You can use PMs, but what are you hoping to achieve with those PMs? And why would you not sure the information about Rocko you have in your PM with him? Honestly I think you're focusing on the wrong person, Jhin is not the most suspicious person here in my opinion.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 10, 2016 11:46:37 GMT -5
Idk man Yorick could be scum But it's also possible he's not But maybe he is I don't even know why I became a suspect... for not voting? It's obvious I asked Spider if not voting would allow the scum to convict someone with one vote first... I didn't want to vote before that to make sure the scum couldn't just take down someone like Frank (or me) but it was like 2:30 AM here when he answered and I didn't really go on the forum anymore at that time. When I woke up a majority had already been reached. It's not not voting for me but kinda the way you accused people..
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Post by Namialus on Jul 10, 2016 11:48:25 GMT -5
If you want my opinion, the tree and the racoon both seem like better options than me. The tree is here, posting gibberish, and the Raccoon follows Jhin's and Frank's vote quickly and generally seems to go with the flow. Since neither of them are posting, I'd like to hear more from them about this. To me Yorick seems pretty alright, but he seems oddly curious about who Brick suspected. Pushed pretty hard for that. The tree and the raccoon... both inactive... easy options
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Post by Namialus on Jul 10, 2016 11:49:56 GMT -5
How do you all feel about voting:
1) Saul? 2) Yorick? 3) Jhin? 4) Raccoon? 5) Tree Man?
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Post by bane on Jul 10, 2016 11:53:47 GMT -5
I think Raccoon is the most suspicious, continuing to follow everything Yorick says (with the vote, and now the accusations against Jhin) I get the feeling he's just trying to hide behind a more vocal player and wouldn't mind Yorick taking the fall for him.
Also, his defense wasn't very clear and wasn't convincing at all.
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Post by bane on Jul 10, 2016 11:54:38 GMT -5
If you want my opinion, the tree and the racoon both seem like better options than me. The tree is here, posting gibberish, and the Raccoon follows Jhin's and Frank's vote quickly and generally seems to go with the flow. Since neither of them are posting, I'd like to hear more from them about this. To me Yorick seems pretty alright, but he seems oddly curious about who Brick suspected. Pushed pretty hard for that. The tree and the raccoon... both inactive... easy options What do you mean
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 11:59:46 GMT -5
I think Raccoon is the most suspicious, continuing to follow everything Yorick says (with the vote, and now the accusations against Jhin) I get the feeling he's just trying to hide behind a more vocal player and wouldn't mind Yorick taking the fall for him. Also, his defense wasn't very clear and wasn't convincing at all. When did the Raccoon defend himself? Also, when did he follow me? He nly said he agreed that we shouldn't blindly believe Jhin's claims.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 12:02:59 GMT -5
How do you all feel about voting: 1) Saul? 2) Yorick? 3) Jhin? 4) Raccoon? 5) Tree Man? 1) I don't know. His recent accusations make little sense... seems like he is panicking, but I don't know if that is because he is scum or because he is getting accused a lot in general. 2) Loyal. 3) Again I don't know, but he acts weird... but I don't know if it is because he is scum or not... but he still hasn't answered my question, even after asking him three times he just ignores it. 4) Hmm, hasn't really done many suspicious things (or many things in general). 5) What tree?
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Post by Newan on Jul 10, 2016 12:05:45 GMT -5
What "evidence"?? That's like the weirdest argument ever... Loyal helpers can use PMs OOC: I have done it like every game... You can use PMs, but what are you hoping to achieve with those PMs? And why would you not sure the information about Rocko you have in your PM with him? I answered this... Why do you want to keep pressing it so much? I showed the entire PM to Frank and said he suspected Saul and Raccoon the most both in the thread and PMs.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 12:10:14 GMT -5
You can use PMs, but what are you hoping to achieve with those PMs? And why would you not sure the information about Rocko you have in your PM with him? I answered this... Why do you want to keep pressing it so much? I showed the entire PM to Frank and said he suspected Saul and Raccoon the most both in the thread and PMs. You said he accused them in the thread, not in PM. But hwy not forward the PM to everyone? Either way, this puts more suspicion on Saul and Raccoon in my opinion... They knew Rocko accused them, although Saul tried to defend himself... so if he murdered Rocko more people would remember... so I would say this puts more suspicion on Raccoon than on Saul... but Saul's recent comments also make him quite suspicious... yet I doubt they are both scum... but one of them certainly is I think.
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Post by Newan on Jul 10, 2016 12:11:59 GMT -5
If I had to guess then I'd say Yorick and Raccoon are the most likely to be on a team together... Been saying it ever since Raccoon came and mimiced Yoricks words on voting
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Post by bane on Jul 10, 2016 12:13:05 GMT -5
I think Raccoon is the most suspicious, continuing to follow everything Yorick says (with the vote, and now the accusations against Jhin) I get the feeling he's just trying to hide behind a more vocal player and wouldn't mind Yorick taking the fall for him. Also, his defense wasn't very clear and wasn't convincing at all. When did the Raccoon defend himself? Also, when did he follow me? He nly said he agreed that we shouldn't blindly believe Jhin's claims. he defended himself above in the thread I think at the top of this page. He agreed with you that voting for no one was a bad idea and also agreed with you when you started pressuring Jhin. Didn't seem to come up with his own ideas really. I don't like that much.
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Post by Newan on Jul 10, 2016 12:13:40 GMT -5
I answered this... Why do you want to keep pressing it so much? I showed the entire PM to Frank and said he suspected Saul and Raccoon the most both in the thread and PMs. You said he accused them in the thread, not in PM. But hwy not forward the PM to everyone? Either way, this puts more suspicion on Saul and Raccoon in my opinion... They knew Rocko accused them, although Saul tried to defend himself... so if he murdered Rocko more people would remember... so I would say this puts more suspicion on Raccoon than on Saul... but Saul's recent comments also make him quite suspicious... yet I doubt they are both scum... but one of them certainly is I think. I said both thread and PM he accused them not just the thread... And it doesn't need to be sent. It was like 12 comments
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2016 12:17:37 GMT -5
If I had to guess then I'd say Yorick and Raccoon are the most likely to be on a team together... Been saying it ever since Raccoon came and mimiced Yoricks words on voting Seems kind of easy for scum right? Mimicking someone's words so if they go down that person will be associated with them and go down too...
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Post by bane on Jul 10, 2016 12:18:08 GMT -5
If I had to guess then I'd say Yorick and Raccoon are the most likely to be on a team together... Been saying it ever since Raccoon came and mimiced Yoricks words on voting Yorick has be the one sticking his neck out and pioneering ideas while Raccoon seems more interested in keeping a low profile. If Yorick was scum I doubt he would keep accusing you since it will get him nowhere since it's very unlikely anyone else would vote for you... Kinda stupid tbh
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