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Post by Newan on Jan 1, 2016 17:31:12 GMT -5
I feel bad for George... you have to imagine that the massive amount of criticism he got from the prequels damaged him. Even if he was the one that sold Star Wars in the first place, the fact that it's really popular again probably makes him a bit sad since he's not a part of it at all. Also, Disney bought his ideas for the new trilogy when they bought Star Wars, but they choose to discard all of it just to make a "fan service" film (in George's eyes) I could see that that upset him. His ideas probably where not top notch anyways though... |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 1, 2016 17:34:08 GMT -5
Also, Disney bought his ideas for the new trilogy when they bought Star Wars, but they choose to discard all of it just to make a "fan service" film (in George's eyes) I could see that that upset him. His ideas probably where not top notch anyways though... Well, Disney's "idea" was a complete copy of the idea George Lucas had 40 years ago. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 1, 2016 18:30:27 GMT -5
His ideas probably where not top notch anyways though... Well, Disney's "idea" was a complete copy of the idea George Lucas had 40 years ago. It's better then TPM which really only opens up a very linear plot that can all be predicted, but with pretty poor execution. I think TFA has set up lots of possibilities for the future of this trilogy and there's quite a lot of depth |
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Post by Newan on Jan 1, 2016 21:41:49 GMT -5
about to watch ANH, finally ROTS was good but TPM and AOTC where snooze fests
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Post by Newan on Jan 1, 2016 21:47:29 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the people who missed out on Star Wars in their childhoods and then try getting into it by watching TPM first and I wonder how many of them will say how over rated the franchise is and how many don't even continue to AOTC because of that... What a terrible first impression.
And I mean the first half of AOTC isn't no dazzler either... Could very well be the nail in the coffin for newcomers who never seen anything else first.
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Post by Newan on Jan 1, 2016 21:50:09 GMT -5
Obviously younger people can get by on Jar Jar and lightsaber fights alone but idk how many older people stick with it
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Post by Newan on Jan 2, 2016 0:08:06 GMT -5
Just watched ANH, better then I remembered actually. A perfectly built up classic story of good vs evil. It was actually a bit funnier then I remembered as well, Han "We're perfectly fine here, how are you?" I always loved that line  |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 2, 2016 0:28:41 GMT -5
I just watched ANH too. I always like it because of the pure adventure in it. However I often wondered what are they doing... Like after they see Alderaan is gone, they're just flying with no plan until they come across the Death Star. And aboard the Death Star they don't really have a plan either except shut down the tractor beam and it's surprising they're not at all worried about being in a massive Imperial station surrounded by Stormtroopers... And once again it feels like aimless flying after the Princess is rescued because I don't think anyone ever mentioned going to the Rebel base (on Yavin).. So yeah I thought that was kind of weird.. Also how Luke didn't really mourn or feel bad about his aunt and uncle (unless it was off screen) and actually had more of a reaction to Obi-Wan's death when he hardly knew him. Same with Leia and Alderaan. No one in the movie cares an entire planet with billions of people on it was blown up by the Empire........ But none of it matters because of how fun it is  I may watch TESB tomorrow and ROTJ sometime after that. Newan's watching the PT then OT I guess I'll do OT first |
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Post by Newan on Jan 2, 2016 1:33:01 GMT -5
I just watched ANH too. I always like it because of the pure adventure in it. However I often wondered what are they doing... Like after they see Alderaan is gone, they're just flying with no plan until they come across the Death Star. And aboard the Death Star they don't really have a plan either except shut down the tractor beam and it's surprising they're not at all worried about being in a massive Imperial station surrounded by Stormtroopers... And once again it feels like aimless flying after the Princess is rescued because I don't think anyone ever mentioned going to the Rebel base (on Yavin).. So yeah I thought that was kind of weird.. Also how Luke didn't really mourn or feel bad about his aunt and uncle (unless it was off screen) and actually had more of a reaction to Obi-Wan's death when he hardly knew him. Same with Leia and Alderaan. No one in the movie cares an entire planet with billions of people on it was blown up by the Empire........ But none of it matters because of how fun it is I may watch TESB tomorrow and ROTJ sometime after that. Newan's watching the PT then OT I guess I'll do OT first We already saw PT yeah, watching the next two over the weekend then we're going back to TFA next weekend. So all 7 in about 10 days. Lol if you're pointing out these things with ANH just wait till you get to TPM.... The flying was alright IMO, they where trying to follow the tie fighter and take it out because it could identify them to the Empire, I guess it took awhile to put the new coordinates in after they left but that one is a bit more weird. Only things I really questioned was a) Obi-Wan reveals he was a Jedi with tons of bounty hunters around however I guess a lot of these guys may not even know what a Jedi is. Either too young or the war just didn't affect them, it's not like living on backwater planets is going to give you much insight. B) at the end they celebrate instead of evacuating but TFA does this as well. Still giving the movie a 10/10 now. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 2, 2016 1:45:24 GMT -5
Also how significant is Alderaan anyways? Like there's a couple hundred countries on Earth yet it's not like 99% of the worlds population can name them all. Star Wars has 1000s of civlized planets. Even if it's a billion people on Alderaan it's still insignificant, there's a trillion on Coruscant alone. The only people who would care are senators and stuff, I'm sure the empire would broadcast it on the news but still the average person just won't give a crap. It's not like hey I got family in New York that died in 9/11 yet I live in California... It's entirely other planets and in each planet it has its own New York and Californa. The likeness that the average person knows lots of people spread out on different planets is very slim
Even all the planets in TFA are insignificant to the average person, it's still not a large number of planets either. The only reason it has more weight is because a lot of the republic just got destroyed however lots couldn't care less about the Republic or First Order.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 2, 2016 14:01:20 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 2, 2016 20:38:51 GMT -5
I'm watching TESB now. I don't think we see Captain Needa after he says the no ship that small has a cloaker thing. Then he asks for a shuttle. What if he goes AWOL  |
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Post by Newan on Jan 2, 2016 20:42:51 GMT -5
I'm watching TESB now. I don't think we see Captain Needa after he says the no ship that small has a cloaker thing. Then he asks for a shuttle. What if he goes AWOL Vader kills him an says "apology accepted"... |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 2, 2016 20:44:36 GMT -5
I'm watching TESB now. I don't think we see Captain Needa after he says the no ship that small has a cloaker thing. Then he asks for a shuttle. What if he goes AWOL Vader kills him an says "apology accepted"... Lol just got to that part.. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 11, 2016 10:08:17 GMT -5
I'm watching ROTJ and after they get captured on Endor by the Ewoks, an Ewok says "jabba jabba jabba"
He says jabba three times
There are three movies in the original trilogy
There are three sides in a triangle
Jabba the Hutt is a scalene triangle
A triangle allows us to infer presence of illuminati
Illuminati makes us question facts
So what if Jabba is not kill?
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Post by Pinda on Jan 11, 2016 10:14:55 GMT -5
I'm watching ROTJ and after they get captured on Endor by the Ewoks, an Ewok says "jabba jabba jabba" He says jabba three times There are three movies in the original trilogy There are three sides in a triangle Jabba the Hutt is a scalene triangle A triangle allows us to infer presence of illuminati Illuminati makes us question facts So what if Jabba is not kill? |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 11, 2016 11:07:26 GMT -5
ROTJ is definitely the weakest of the originals... But it felt like a more modern movie which have cool openings and often little happening plot wise like most of this was just doing stuff on Endor.. It was cool but I guess I preferred their adventures in TESB. Also I didn't really like Han's acting it seemed off... His voice was higher and stuff.
IMO this one is kind of just there.. Probably the most "forgettable" of the saga maybe with AOTC
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Post by Newan on Jan 11, 2016 14:32:15 GMT -5
Didn't know GL and his daughter had a cameo, both characters ended up in TCW as well
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 11, 2016 15:07:26 GMT -5
Only knew about GL's cameo but I think some of these aren't really Easter eggs... Like the guy getting thrown out of the TIE is just a thing probably and I think many people noticed. The 212th Clone fighting the droid isn't really one either.. But I don't think he should've beaten the droid since in TCW every time a trooper tries to go hand to hand against droids they die lol
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Post by Newan on Jan 11, 2016 20:58:41 GMT -5
Only knew about GL's cameo but I think some of these aren't really Easter eggs... Like the guy getting thrown out of the TIE is just a thing probably and I think many people noticed. The 212th Clone fighting the droid isn't really one either.. But I don't think he should've beaten the droid since in TCW every time a trooper tries to go hand to hand against droids they die lol Yeah against commando droids maybe... I remember lots of troopers beat down regular droids |
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Post by The Jawa Juicer on Jan 11, 2016 22:29:31 GMT -5
Only knew about GL's cameo but I think some of these aren't really Easter eggs... Like the guy getting thrown out of the TIE is just a thing probably and I think many people noticed. The 212th Clone fighting the droid isn't really one either.. But I don't think he should've beaten the droid since in TCW every time a trooper tries to go hand to hand against droids they die lol Yeah against commando droids maybe... I remember lots of troopers beat down regular droids <clone trooper punching a droid and breaking his hand gfycat.com/EnormousColorfulIbisbill# <gungans putting the beat-down on battle droids (look in the background) |
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Post by squiggy on Jan 11, 2016 22:38:18 GMT -5
ROTJ is definitely the weakest of the originals... But it felt like a more modern movie which have cool openings and often little happening plot wise like most of this was just doing stuff on Endor.. It was cool but I guess I preferred their adventures in TESB. Also I didn't really like Han's acting it seemed off... His voice was higher and stuff. IMO this one is kind of just there.. Probably the most "forgettable" of the saga maybe with AOTC Two of the best, what |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 15, 2016 12:46:28 GMT -5
Honestly TPM was really enjoyable for me.. I think it's going to go above ROTJ... But yeah like the opening was cool with Qui-Gon and Obi boarding the Federation ship and I love the podrace. I like all the first person scenes they do. I believe they had one in every movie. Trench run in ANH, I think there was one on hoth for TESB, Endor speeder chase. ROTS had one in the space battle I'm pretty sure and AOTC might've had one on coruscant. But yeah I always like those and seeing the environment...
Jar Jar... Well... Idk he's tolerable. I think he was better in TCW. But some weird things like the Jedi don't believe Maul was a Sith like motherfucker no one else uses red lightsabers... And the Neimodians are like there's no proof of invasion again motherfucker there's like 1828373829292 battle droids literally occupying Naboo right now....
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 15, 2016 12:55:13 GMT -5
But this has always kind of confused me... So they are in peace time at the beginning of TPM right? So it's not exactly Star Wars... And did Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon basically start the war... Because Sidious got mad that the ambassadors were Jedi so he decided to invade Naboo... Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense either... But if the war started with the Invasion of Naboo but the Clone Wars starts 10 years later what war did the Invasion cause... Or was there not a war......... I'm pretty sure there was because isn't it going on during AOTC (I don't remember)? So if there is a war, are just like the armies of different planets holding off the Trade Federation until the galaxy wide army of clone troopers is created.... And where do the Separatists come in and why aren't people fighting the Federation anymore.....
Idk I think some of this is in AOTC I just don't remember however I think I was still confused when I remembered AOTC.........
Can someone help................. I don't understand Star Wars.......................
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Post by Potato on Jan 15, 2016 12:59:46 GMT -5
But this has always kind of confused me... So they are in peace time at the beginning of TPM right? So it's not exactly Star Wars... And did Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon basically start the war... Because Sidious got mad that the ambassadors were Jedi so he decided to invade Naboo... Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense either... But if the war started with the Invasion of Naboo but the Clone Wars starts 10 years later what war did the Invasion cause... Or was there not a war......... I'm pretty sure there was because isn't it going on during AOTC (I don't remember)? So if there is a war, are just like the armies of different planets holding off the Trade Federation until the galaxy wide army of clone troopers is created.... And where do the Separatists come in and why aren't people fighting the Federation anymore..... Idk I think some of this is in AOTC I just don't remember however I think I was still confused when I remembered AOTC......... Can someone help................. I don't understand Star Wars....................... Well, if anyone's responsible for Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon going there, it's Chancellor Vallorum. But I'm pretty sure Sidious planned on invading Naboo no matter what since it's what would have gotten him promoted to Chancellor. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon arriving just caused him to "accelerate their plans". The invasion didn't directly cause the Clone Wars. I think it just ended with some tensions between the Trade Federations and the Republic (and over the next 10 years Sidious and Dooku began manipulating other systems against the Republic into the Separatist cause). There is no war at the start of Attack of the Clones. It's sort of a cold war actually; there's a lot of systems that are threatening to break off from the Republic. The official war begins at the Battle of Geonosis. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 15, 2016 13:06:38 GMT -5
But this has always kind of confused me... So they are in peace time at the beginning of TPM right? So it's not exactly Star Wars... And did Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon basically start the war... Because Sidious got mad that the ambassadors were Jedi so he decided to invade Naboo... Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense either... But if the war started with the Invasion of Naboo but the Clone Wars starts 10 years later what war did the Invasion cause... Or was there not a war......... I'm pretty sure there was because isn't it going on during AOTC (I don't remember)? So if there is a war, are just like the armies of different planets holding off the Trade Federation until the galaxy wide army of clone troopers is created.... And where do the Separatists come in and why aren't people fighting the Federation anymore..... Idk I think some of this is in AOTC I just don't remember however I think I was still confused when I remembered AOTC......... Can someone help................. I don't understand Star Wars....................... Well, if anyone's responsible for Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon going there, it's Chancellor Vallorum. But I'm pretty sure Sidious planned on invading Naboo no matter what since it's what would have gotten him promoted to Chancellor. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon arriving just caused him to "accelerate their plans". The invasion didn't directly cause the Clone Wars. I think it just ended with some tensions between the Trade Federations and the Republic (and over the next 10 years Sidious and Dooku began manipulating other systems against the Republic into the Separatist cause). There is no war at the start of Attack of the Clones. It's sort of a cold war actually; there's a lot of systems that are threatening to break off from the Republic. The official war begins at the Battle of Geonosis. But either way Maul's purpose is pretty useless since he is sent to locate the queen however Palpatine needs her on Coruscant anyways to propose the vote of no confidence so Maul finding the Queen does nothing to advance the plan except get everybody on edge. There wasn't any reason to reveal themselves (Sith) in TPM. It's not like Maul could hand deliver the queen to Palpatine on Coruscant. I just hate how fluid the prequels are, everything happens almost flawlessly the way Palpatine wants it, no conflict or resistance. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 15, 2016 14:10:03 GMT -5
But this has always kind of confused me... So they are in peace time at the beginning of TPM right? So it's not exactly Star Wars... And did Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon basically start the war... Because Sidious got mad that the ambassadors were Jedi so he decided to invade Naboo... Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense either... But if the war started with the Invasion of Naboo but the Clone Wars starts 10 years later what war did the Invasion cause... Or was there not a war......... I'm pretty sure there was because isn't it going on during AOTC (I don't remember)? So if there is a war, are just like the armies of different planets holding off the Trade Federation until the galaxy wide army of clone troopers is created.... And where do the Separatists come in and why aren't people fighting the Federation anymore..... Idk I think some of this is in AOTC I just don't remember however I think I was still confused when I remembered AOTC......... Can someone help................. I don't understand Star Wars....................... Well, if anyone's responsible for Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon going there, it's Chancellor Vallorum. But I'm pretty sure Sidious planned on invading Naboo no matter what since it's what would have gotten him promoted to Chancellor. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon arriving just caused him to "accelerate their plans". The invasion didn't directly cause the Clone Wars. I think it just ended with some tensions between the Trade Federations and the Republic (and over the next 10 years Sidious and Dooku began manipulating other systems against the Republic into the Separatist cause). There is no war at the start of Attack of the Clones. It's sort of a cold war actually; there's a lot of systems that are threatening to break off from the Republic. The official war begins at the Battle of Geonosis. That makes sense. I wish George didn't do the prequels like that though. Like I get its all about the Skywalkers and stuff but I think Episode 1 should've started with an adult Anakin and shown more origins of stuff and the start of the Clone War all in the first part. Instead you have to wait until the half of the first to see the main hero, which isn't a huge problem but waiting until the end of the second to start the actual war kind of is... It could've been a lot less confusing |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 15, 2016 14:13:51 GMT -5
Lol no one realizes how much of a creepy fucker Palpatine is killing his family as a kid and whispering stuff into Padme's ear... Padme's also a predator like he's 9...
But damn I felt so bad for Valorum like he's out there trying his best and Padme's like I push a vote of no confidence like is it hard being that savage straight out of Naboo Padme Amidala
Valorum's face was just...
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Post by The Jawa Juicer on Feb 10, 2016 19:50:18 GMT -5
RIP Jocasta Nu's actor
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Post by Star on Feb 10, 2016 21:29:06 GMT -5
Yeah... Boba's actor died about a month ago too.  |
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I may watch TESB tomorrow and ROTJ sometime after that. Newan's watching the PT then OT I guess I'll do OT first
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