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Post by Newan on Aug 18, 2018 11:41:20 GMT -5
Do you think Tarkin had more power as a Grand Moff, or Thrawn as a Grand Admiral? Those were perhaps the most influential positions in the Empire. It's comparing political might to military might, but I figure that Tarkin would have the edge in overall influence. Tarkin had way more power, he was governor of the entire outer rim and was able to take resources from anywhere in the outer rim for production or manpower for the Empires projects. Although Tarkin wasn't a military mind as much so in that regard Thrawn was a lot more valuable. Either way there was only one Grand Moff and one Grand Admiral and neither really had power over the other. Both were untouchable and they were the only two officers in the entire imperial military that the Emperor specifically forbade Vader from killing. |
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Post by Star on Aug 18, 2018 11:56:12 GMT -5
Do you think Tarkin had more power as a Grand Moff, or Thrawn as a Grand Admiral? Those were perhaps the most influential positions in the Empire. It's comparing political might to military might, but I figure that Tarkin would have the edge in overall influence. Tarkin had way more power, he was governor of the entire outer rim and was able to take resources from anywhere in the outer rim for production or manpower for the Empires projects. Although Tarkin wasn't a military mind as much so in that regard Thrawn was a lot more valuable. Either way there was only one Grand Moff and one Grand Admiral and neither really had power over the other. Both were untouchable and they were the only two officers in the entire imperial military that the Emperor specifically forbade Vader from killing. Wouldn't Tarkin need Thrawn's military resources to execute a lot of his actions in the Outer Rim? Because of this, wouldn't he be somewhat dependent on Thrawn? While Tarkin wasn't the elite military strategist like Thrawn, I still believe he knew more than enough to be competent with any militaristic actions. Combined with his political mind, I think this made Tarkin the more dangerous of the two as well, since he seemed to be more intelligent overall. |
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Post by Newan on Aug 18, 2018 12:31:41 GMT -5
Tarkin had way more power, he was governor of the entire outer rim and was able to take resources from anywhere in the outer rim for production or manpower for the Empires projects. Although Tarkin wasn't a military mind as much so in that regard Thrawn was a lot more valuable. Either way there was only one Grand Moff and one Grand Admiral and neither really had power over the other. Both were untouchable and they were the only two officers in the entire imperial military that the Emperor specifically forbade Vader from killing. Wouldn't Tarkin need Thrawn's military resources to execute a lot of his actions in the Outer Rim? Because of this, wouldn't he be somewhat dependent on Thrawn? While Tarkin wasn't the elite military strategist like Thrawn, I still believe he knew more than enough to be competent with any militaristic actions. Combined with his political mind, I think this made Tarkin the more dangerous of the two as well, since he seemed to be more intelligent overall. Nah Thrawn at the time of being Admiral/ Grand Admiral was only called in on special assignments for the most part, he wasn't really doing grunt work like taking over neutral systems and stuff. And Tarkin's military philopshy is really just using overwhelming force to defeat opponents which is why he was so bent on completing the Death Star. Thrawn disagreed with the Death Star project, he believed small and effective weapons could just eas easily get the job done with the right strategy, which is why he favored things like the Tie Defender. Thrawn is a thinker, manipulative and adaptable. Tarkin is a lot more single minded, even look at the Citadel arc when he always wanted people to stay in force and "full frontal attack" and stuff. |
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Post by Star on Aug 18, 2018 17:00:31 GMT -5
Wouldn't Tarkin need Thrawn's military resources to execute a lot of his actions in the Outer Rim? Because of this, wouldn't he be somewhat dependent on Thrawn? While Tarkin wasn't the elite military strategist like Thrawn, I still believe he knew more than enough to be competent with any militaristic actions. Combined with his political mind, I think this made Tarkin the more dangerous of the two as well, since he seemed to be more intelligent overall. Nah Thrawn at the time of being Admiral/ Grand Admiral was only called in on special assignments for the most part, he wasn't really doing grunt work like taking over neutral systems and stuff. And Tarkin's military philopshy is really just using overwhelming force to defeat opponents which is why he was so bent on completing the Death Star. Thrawn disagreed with the Death Star project, he believed small and effective weapons could just eas easily get the job done with the right strategy, which is why he favored things like the Tie Defender. Thrawn is a thinker, manipulative and adaptable. Tarkin is a lot more single minded, even look at the Citadel arc when he always wanted people to stay in force and "full frontal attack" and stuff. Both philosophies worked, but Tarkin's was much more in line with the ideals of the Empire. He also told Anakin during the Citadel arc that he found the Jedi's war tactics to not be aggressive enough. Thrawn viewed it more as a chess game where he would understand his opponents and work to undermine them in creative ways, rather than full-out offensive campaigns. |
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Post by Newan on Aug 18, 2018 18:05:51 GMT -5
Nah Thrawn at the time of being Admiral/ Grand Admiral was only called in on special assignments for the most part, he wasn't really doing grunt work like taking over neutral systems and stuff. And Tarkin's military philopshy is really just using overwhelming force to defeat opponents which is why he was so bent on completing the Death Star. Thrawn disagreed with the Death Star project, he believed small and effective weapons could just eas easily get the job done with the right strategy, which is why he favored things like the Tie Defender. Thrawn is a thinker, manipulative and adaptable. Tarkin is a lot more single minded, even look at the Citadel arc when he always wanted people to stay in force and "full frontal attack" and stuff. Both philosophies worked, but Tarkin's was much more in line with the ideals of the Empire. He also told Anakin during the Citadel arc that he found the Jedi's war tactics to not be aggressive enough. Thrawn viewed it more as a chess game where he would understand his opponents and work to undermine them in creative ways, rather than full-out offensive campaigns. Thrawn always had less resources to pull from as well though, he was often fighting against people in the empire for being an alien |
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Post by Newan on Aug 18, 2018 18:06:00 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 18, 2018 18:30:34 GMT -5
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Post by Star on Aug 18, 2018 18:40:09 GMT -5
Both philosophies worked, but Tarkin's was much more in line with the ideals of the Empire. He also told Anakin during the Citadel arc that he found the Jedi's war tactics to not be aggressive enough. Thrawn viewed it more as a chess game where he would understand his opponents and work to undermine them in creative ways, rather than full-out offensive campaigns. Thrawn always had less resources to pull from as well though, he was often fighting against people in the empire for being an alien That would make sense, although I'm sure Thrawn was capable enough with what he had. His results should speak for themselves. The main reason the Empire disliked aliens was because most of the systems in the CIS were non-human, right? Sidious controlled both sides, so I doubt he actually cared. Was it then mostly a political move to make the Empire almost entirely human and have it appear that due to this choice, the Empire was more stable and just? |
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Post by Pinda on Aug 18, 2018 18:46:09 GMT -5
Disney is panicking. At this rate I bet episode 9 will mostly focus on undoing the damage Last Jedi did. |
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Post by Pinda on Aug 18, 2018 18:53:17 GMT -5
Disney would be retarded if they actually had an Obi-wan movie in the makes and cancelled it though. The memes alone would make that movie a huge success. You wouldn't even need a lot of marketing to spread the word. Just release a teaser with Ewan McGregor saying "Hello there" and the entire internet will know about it 5 minutes later.
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Post by Star on Aug 18, 2018 19:27:51 GMT -5
Disney is panicking. At this rate I bet episode 9 will mostly focus on undoing the damage Last Jedi did. Disney knows they can do so much more with Star Wars films than what they currently are. They haven't failed yet (I think Episode IX will largely determine that), but they know the potential is far greater, and many fans are becoming disenchanted with the franchise. To start, Disney needs to put someone more competent at leading Star Wars than Kathleen Kennedy in charge. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 19, 2018 3:09:00 GMT -5
That'll be karma working its magic. Actually this makes me wonder if Rian's name will be persona non grata with studios now. At least with Disney anyway. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 19, 2018 3:10:43 GMT -5
Disney is panicking. At this rate I bet episode 9 will mostly focus on undoing the damage Last Jedi did. Reports are saying Kennedy has no say on the film. This is all on JJ, so we'll see how this goes and although he says he liked TLJ, I can't help thinking he did not appreciate a lot of the stuff Rian did to his ideas. |
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Post by Star on Aug 19, 2018 10:05:14 GMT -5
Disney is panicking. At this rate I bet episode 9 will mostly focus on undoing the damage Last Jedi did. Reports are saying Kennedy has no say on the film. This is all on JJ, so we'll see how this goes and although he says he liked TLJ, I can't help thinking he did not appreciate a lot of the stuff Rian did to his ideas. From what I know of JJ, he isn't the best storyteller. He's better at directing general ideas and executing them on-screen. Although it's probably good Kathleen Kennedy doesn't have much of a say in IX, it could imply that with JJ leading everything, the film may be like TFA where it copies a lot of elements from previous films. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 19, 2018 14:16:12 GMT -5
Reports are saying Kennedy has no say on the film. This is all on JJ, so we'll see how this goes and although he says he liked TLJ, I can't help thinking he did not appreciate a lot of the stuff Rian did to his ideas. From what I know of JJ, he isn't the best storyteller. He's better at directing general ideas and executing them on-screen. Although it's probably good Kathleen Kennedy doesn't have much of a say in IX, it could imply that with JJ leading everything, the film may be like TFA where it copies a lot of elements from previous films. All he can really do is make stuff that's decently watchable at best, nothing groundbreaking, or a masterpiece. It's why I don't think he's got the chops to take on a project like this. Then again, I don't think Spielberg, a revived Kubrick, or Lucas himself could save this trilogy now. |
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 30, 2018 6:15:24 GMT -5
Something a little interesting, Anakin was supposed to say “help me” after Obi-Wan defeated him. And they actually kept it in just muted the line, you can see Hayden’s lips moving. And Obi-Wan would’ve said “I love you but I cannot”
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 1, 2018 12:47:49 GMT -5
I finally figured out why Rebels Yoda bugs me so much. It's like his head is just off. It's way too round. Either it should be smaller or his ears should be bigger. He looks like one of the goblins from Harry Potter.
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 2, 2018 16:52:16 GMT -5
Apparently before the prequels, everyone thought the Clone Wars was some sort of clone apocalypse that the Empire or Republic had to fight. Kind of an interesting idea
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 3, 2018 19:52:02 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 3, 2018 20:35:52 GMT -5
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Star Wars
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 4, 2018 20:36:18 GMT -5
Apparently Rian Johnson watched the Mortis arc before production of TLJ and noted how “different” and “ground-breaking” they were.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 5, 2018 0:51:20 GMT -5
Apparently Rian Johnson watched the Mortis arc before production of TLJ and noted how “different” and “ground-breaking” they were. Yeah... but for Mortis those words had a positive connotation. For TLJ not so much... |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 5, 2018 1:32:01 GMT -5
Apparently Rian Johnson watched the Mortis arc before production of TLJ and noted how “different” and “ground-breaking” they were. Yeah, that's exactly what he wishes fans would think of TLJ. Big difference is that Mortis was made by competent people who weren't interested in deliberately ticking off half the audience. |
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Post by Newan on Sept 6, 2018 23:48:08 GMT -5
Oh boy it’s here, I love these
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Post by Newan on Sept 10, 2018 22:43:52 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 22, 2018 13:10:57 GMT -5
Sounds like Iger finally learned something. Maybe you heard, but they’re slowing down the release schedule.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 22, 2018 13:52:04 GMT -5
Sounds like Iger finally learned something. Maybe you heard, but they’re slowing down the release schedule. That'll mean nothing if they're still gonna shoot themselves in the foot once more and pursue Johnson's trilogy. Still, this is definitely a positive. From the sounds of things they're going to have something of a big rethink after 9 releases. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 22, 2018 17:50:18 GMT -5
Sounds like Iger finally learned something. Maybe you heard, but they’re slowing down the release schedule. That'll mean nothing if they're still gonna shoot themselves in the foot once more and pursue Johnson's trilogy. Still, this is definitely a positive. From the sounds of things they're going to have something of a big rethink after 9 releases. We may be heading into the post-British brunette era of Star Wars.  |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 22, 2018 20:50:39 GMT -5
I don't think quantity has to mean sacrificing quality. I liked that we were getting more Star Wars content because before we'd have long gaps between things. Maybe two movies a year is a little much but they should have something every year. It's not all about the timing it's about the movie's content.
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Post by Newan on Sept 28, 2018 17:51:10 GMT -5
So in some unfortunate news... Kathleen Kennedy was extended for 3 more years
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it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 