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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2016 8:20:15 GMT -5
I don't think Maul is still trying to become Palpatine's apprentice. That's like Ventress trying to become Dooku's apprentice again after "Witches of the Mist". Just no. No its more like Ventress trying to become Dooku's apprentice after Massacre.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 16, 2016 9:45:41 GMT -5
That's like Ventress trying to become Dooku's apprentice again after "Witches of the Mist". Just no. Sidious didn't really betray Maul though he had no idea he was alive and in The Lawless he saw him as a rival. Also the whole SOD arc was really to take out Talzin since it was revealed Maul was just a pawn in her game. Maul would have taken Dooku's place willingly if he was killed during TCW, at least till the plan with Anakin was ready Well there's still this minor source of friction between Maul and Sidious:
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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2016 9:51:36 GMT -5
Sidious didn't really betray Maul though he had no idea he was alive and in The Lawless he saw him as a rival. Also the whole SOD arc was really to take out Talzin since it was revealed Maul was just a pawn in her game. Maul would have taken Dooku's place willingly if he was killed during TCW, at least till the plan with Anakin was ready Well there's still this minor source of friction between Maul and Sidious: And another (Son of Dathomir spoilers):
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Post by Potato on Jan 16, 2016 11:37:35 GMT -5
Yeah, the Son of Dathomir comic is basically all about Maul trying to destroy Sidious. There's no way he would have joined him from The Lawless onward. I'm thinking he is the real deal, and he's probably gone a bit insane again. Honestly, I don't mind seeing him in Rebels as much as I would have used to just because I doubt we would have seen his conclusion in any other way at this point (although I still think it would have been awesome if we saw him in an Anthology movie with old Obi-Wan).
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Post by Potato on Jan 16, 2016 11:40:14 GMT -5
The crossguard saber in green's pretty cool too... a couple weeks ago I saw a piece of fan art that showed Kylo Ren as a jedi, and he had a green crossguard saber just like that. Ever since I sort of wanted to see it in that color. It makes me think that he'll get a new red one in Episode VIII with a stable crystal.
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 11:48:09 GMT -5
Yeah, the Son of Dathomir comic is basically all about Maul trying to destroy Sidious. There's no way he would have joined him from The Lawless onward. I'm thinking he is the real deal, and he's probably gone a bit insane again. Honestly, I don't mind seeing him in Rebels as much as I would have used to just because I doubt we would have seen his conclusion in any other way at this point (although I still think it would have been awesome if we saw him in an Anthology movie with old Obi-Wan). I want Vader to kill him now. Doubt we will see Obi-Wan.
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Post by Potato on Jan 16, 2016 12:07:17 GMT -5
My favorite part of the trailer was definitely Matt Lanter's line as Anakin... that was so good. It's a shame he doesn't get as much recognition as he should for making Anakin such an enjoyable character.
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 12:07:45 GMT -5
www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-rebels-galleryBreak down of the trailer and comments from DF on a lot of them. Reason Anakin has a weird outfit is because they apparently use a huge amount of the budget to animate Vaders cape. However that was also the reason we never saw Dooku with a cape whenever Sidious was in the episode. Vader can't really appear without a cape though, his outfit isn't flexible like with other people. I think Ahsoka might actually die now.
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 12:09:26 GMT -5
My favorite part of the trailer was definitely Matt Lanter's line as Anakin... that was so good. It's a shame he doesn't get as much recognition as he should for making Anakin such an enjoyable character. Must be in Ahsoka's mind wanting to hear him in that way.
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Post by Potato on Jan 16, 2016 12:58:16 GMT -5
www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-rebels-galleryBreak down of the trailer and comments from DF on a lot of them. Reason Anakin has a weird outfit is because they apparently use a huge amount of the budget to animate Vaders cape. However that was also the reason we never saw Dooku with a cape whenever Sidious was in the episode. Vader can't really appear without a cape though, his outfit isn't flexible like with other people. I think Ahsoka might actually die now. Seeing things like this make me really happy that Filoni's helming Rebels. He really gets the fans... it seems like he had a reason for every shot that there was in the trailer. And I like that he acknowledges that a lot fans will come up with ridiculous theories (like Ezra being Snoke).
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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2016 13:04:14 GMT -5
You know, the worst part about Rebels is by far Ezra. Maybe if it wasn't for that cringe-worthy useless annoying character I would have given this show another try, despite the shitty animation. But I just can't stand watching that character... Sure people can compare him so Ahsoka, and she wasn't too great either in the first season, but she was never as childish and cringe-worthy as Ezra, not even close, and at least other main characters in TCW made up for her. Really, Ezra makes this show unwatchable. If he didn't exist the show would be just bad, maybe even mediocre, but his existence makes the show horrible.
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 16, 2016 13:46:04 GMT -5
You know, the worst part about Rebels is by far Ezra. Maybe if it wasn't for that cringe-worthy useless annoying character I would have given this show another try, despite the Potato Rulesty animation. But I just can't stand watching that character... Sure people can compare him so Ahsoka, and she wasn't too great either in the first season, but she was never as childish and cringe-worthy as Ezra, not even close, and at least other main characters in TCW made up for her. Really, Ezra makes this show unwatchable. If he didn't exist the show would be just bad, maybe even mediocre, but his existence makes the show horrible. I used to not like Ezra either but I think he's gotten better
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Post by Potato on Jan 16, 2016 14:16:35 GMT -5
Ezra's really not as terrible as most people make him out to be. My only problem with him is that the show runners keep teasing him "going dark" and embracing the dark side. I wish they'd stop doing that since I can't see Ezra going to the dark side at all. It just doesn't fit him. I sort of wish they'd drop that idea and move on, but it seems like they're going to keep teasing it.
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 15:23:28 GMT -5
www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-rebels-galleryBreak down of the trailer and comments from DF on a lot of them. Reason Anakin has a weird outfit is because they apparently use a huge amount of the budget to animate Vaders cape. However that was also the reason we never saw Dooku with a cape whenever Sidious was in the episode. Vader can't really appear without a cape though, his outfit isn't flexible like with other people. I think Ahsoka might actually die now. Seeing things like this make me really happy that Filoni's helming Rebels. He really gets the fans... it seems like he had a reason for every shot that there was in the trailer. And I like that he acknowledges that a lot fans will come up with ridiculous theories (like Ezra being Snoke). Yeah DF is pretty awesome, he understands Star Wars and what makes it so appealing and fun to watch more so then George Lucas himself I think. If they even plan another animated show after Rebels weather its sequel era or based in the past I'd want him to be calling the shots. The trailer reminds me a lot of TCW trailers, take the season 5 mid season one for example
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 15:25:41 GMT -5
You know, the worst part about Rebels is by far Ezra. Maybe if it wasn't for that cringe-worthy useless annoying character I would have given this show another try, despite the Potato Rulesty animation. But I just can't stand watching that character... Sure people can compare him so Ahsoka, and she wasn't too great either in the first season, but she was never as childish and cringe-worthy as Ezra, not even close, and at least other main characters in TCW made up for her. Really, Ezra makes this show unwatchable. If he didn't exist the show would be just bad, maybe even mediocre, but his existence makes the show horrible. He really ain't too bad now and early Ahsoka was worse. I like what they're doing with him now though, they built his character up a lot
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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2016 17:51:41 GMT -5
Ezra's really not as terrible as most people make him out to be. My only problem with him is that the show runners keep teasing him "going dark" and embracing the dark side. I wish they'd stop doing that since I can't see Ezra going to the dark side at all. It just doesn't fit him. I sort of wish they'd drop that idea and move on, but it seems like they're going to keep teasing it. He seems far too young to even really turn to the darkside.
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 18:00:42 GMT -5
Ezra's really not as terrible as most people make him out to be. My only problem with him is that the show runners keep teasing him "going dark" and embracing the dark side. I wish they'd stop doing that since I can't see Ezra going to the dark side at all. It just doesn't fit him. I sort of wish they'd drop that idea and move on, but it seems like they're going to keep teasing it. He seems far too young to even really turn to the darkside. Age isn't a factor
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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2016 18:02:03 GMT -5
He seems far too young to even really turn to the darkside. Age isn't a factor I think it is. I don't see a 8 year old child turning to the darkside, unless they were on the darkside to begin with.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 16, 2016 18:08:45 GMT -5
I think it is. I don't see a 8 year old child turning to the darkside, unless they were on the darkside to begin with. Maybe they could, but it would be like a little kid who found his dad's gun. They might have some power but they couldn't weild it to too much effect.
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Post by Potato on Jan 16, 2016 18:14:27 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, Ezra's about 15 or 16 at this point... which was close to Ahsoka's age in the latter half of TCW. Still, I don't think it suits his character at all. Plus it's been done to death with the Skywalkers.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2016 18:25:10 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, Ezra's about 15 or 16 at this point... which was close to Ahsoka's age in the latter half of TCW. Still, I don't think it suits his character at all. Plus it's been done to death with the Skywalkers. He doesn't act like 15 or 16, at least not in the first few episode which I watched. He acts more like a 12 year old, at the most.
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Post by Potato on Jan 16, 2016 18:26:22 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, Ezra's about 15 or 16 at this point... which was close to Ahsoka's age in the latter half of TCW. Still, I don't think it suits his character at all. Plus it's been done to death with the Skywalkers. He doesn't act like 15 or 16, at least not in the first few episode which I watched. He acts more like a 12 year old, at the most. He's 14 for the first half of Season 1 (which I'm guessing are the episodes you watched). Since then he's matured because of the situations he's been in, and he's grown older over time. I think I read somewhere that Leia's 16, so that would mean Ezra's 16 now too.
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 18:36:32 GMT -5
I think it is. I don't see a 8 year old child turning to the darkside, unless they were on the darkside to begin with. No it isn't a factor they can turn him, even if it's an 8 year old they can indoctrinate them like inquisitors. Torture, brainwash, etc. Kids can still turn willingly though.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 16, 2016 19:13:02 GMT -5
I think it is. I don't see a 8 year old child turning to the darkside, unless they were on the darkside to begin with. No it isn't a factor they can turn him, even if it's an 8 year old they can indoctrinate them like inquisitors. Torture, brainwash, etc. Kids can still turn willingly though. Yes but that is basically what I meant by "unless they were on the darkside to begin with. If they were brainwashed as children it works, but Jedi younglings probably won't turn to the darkside.
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Post by Ax_Rex on Jan 16, 2016 19:28:19 GMT -5
Reading these comments have restored my faith in humanity that I'm not the only one who thinks rebels currently sucks!(I'm still optimistic for the future). Don't mean to troll, but seriously! The animation looks dreadful! Like the scene when Ezra is on one of those floating animals... - it looks like a baby hippo with teeth!(Not to mention poor Yoda and Anakin! #Yikes) Anyways, I had no clue that guy was Maul, totally thought it was Darth Bane or something.... Its kinda is getting too much with Maul now, the hype thing of him returning is kinda dead now. Looking forward to Ahsoka vs Vader tho!
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Post by Newan on Jan 16, 2016 20:18:51 GMT -5
No it isn't a factor they can turn him, even if it's an 8 year old they can indoctrinate them like inquisitors. Torture, brainwash, etc. Kids can still turn willingly though. Yes but that is basically what I meant by "unless they were on the darkside to begin with. If they were brainwashed as children it works, but Jedi younglings probably won't turn to the darkside. Still can be turned
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Post by Newan on Jan 17, 2016 1:05:16 GMT -5
Reading these comments have restored my faith in humanity that I'm not the only one who thinks rebels currently sucks!(I'm still optimistic for the future). Don't mean to troll, but seriously! The animation looks dreadful! Like the scene when Ezra is on one of those floating animals... - it looks like a baby hippo with teeth!(Not to mention poor Yoda and Anakin! #Yikes) Anyways, I had no clue that guy was Maul, totally thought it was Darth Bane or something.... Its kinda is getting too much with Maul now, the hype thing of him returning is kinda dead now. Looking forward to Ahsoka vs Vader tho! People need to stop comparing TCW animation to Rebels... TCW animation was only so good because George Lucas personally funded it out of the billions of dollars he has. Go find me an active animated show running right now that has better animation then Rebels, you can't because it does not exist. TCW animation is great and all but that is not the standard for animated shows, you can't possibly make a profit off of the show with that quality. People here where spoiled by TCW animation that now they will just see everything else as being bad when in reality in Rebels case it is not bad animation. Overall TCW animation can not be used as comparison for any means as it is a special case.
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Post by Newan on Jan 17, 2016 1:07:06 GMT -5
Hope Maul does die, maybe not in this season but perhaps the next
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Post by Newan on Jan 17, 2016 3:35:51 GMT -5
Some predictions that may be less likely to happen...
- the dark, rocky planet with the Lightning is Malachor. In the EU it's a very dark side oriented location and matches what we seen in the trailer. Besides they already took the Hammerhead cruisers and the Makeb design from KOTOR/ SWTOR.
- Maul is the one that kills Ahsoka and Vader kills Maul. We will also see the darksaber again.
- These new Mandalorians were formally death watch, we likely get to know what happended to Mandalore with the conflict there. Perhaps even learn about Bo-Katan or maybe Bo is even still alive?
- One of Zeb, Ezra or Kanan does this season
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Post by Newan on Jan 17, 2016 3:38:14 GMT -5
Even though I want Maul to die, I think it's only acceptable if it's Vader or Obi-Wan giving the final blow and under present circumstances only one is actively available
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