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Eragon?
May 17, 2015 7:05:53 GMT -5
Post by Star on May 17, 2015 7:05:53 GMT -5
I've read all four books in the Inheritance Cycle and enjoyed them all; however, I've also heard the argument before of how the series is a rip-off of Star Wars (mostly), and also LOTR and Harry Potter. I was just reading some similarities between the series and those of the 3 other big ones, and the Inheritance Cycle really is similar to all of them. Kinda makes me appreciate the books a little less now, but I still thought it was a good story, despite being so similar to other major ones. Has anyone else read the Inheritance Cycle and/or heard of how it takes many elements from SW, LOTR, and HP?
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Eragon?
May 17, 2015 7:13:48 GMT -5
Post by Star on May 17, 2015 7:13:48 GMT -5
Here's an example of a character being like Obi-Wan. Don't read if you don't like spoilers. {Spoiler}Brom can be compared to the Star Wars character "Obi-Wan Kenobi". Both of them were one of the last in their respective Orders (Obi-Wan, along with Yoda, being the last of the Jedi Knights, while Brom, along with Oromis, was the last of the Elder Riders ) and both of them founding a secret resistance movement against those who destroyed their Order before going into hiding near the young protagonist's home in order to oversee their training (Obi-Wan moved to Tatooine, near Luke's uncle's farm and Brom moved to Carvahall, near Garrow's farm, where Eragon spent his youth). He was also killed by one of the enemy (Obi-Wan by Darth Vader, Brom by the Ra'zac in the Book /Durza in the film). In addition, Obi-Wan Kenobi was devastated when his apprentice and friend, Anakin Skywalker, turned to the dark side, as was Brom when Morzan betrayed the Riders. Also Obi-Wan and Brom were killed before their students training was fully complete, so Luke/Eragon had to continue training without their dead masters, with masters Yoda/Oromis. The main difference between the two characters was that Brom was the father of the protagonist, whereas Obi-Wan was not. And he's also similar to Gandalf. {Spoiler}Brom's description in the book (long white beard, hooked nose, carved staff, smokes a pipe) can also be closely compared to "Gandalf" from The Lord of the Rings. His role was fairly similar to Gandalf as well: Brom left with the hero of the story, was a wise old wizardly character with magic, as well as died saving Eragon's life by jumping in front of a dagger thrown by one of the Ra'zac in the first book, just like Gandalf died the first time by protecting Frodo from the Balrog. He also blows colored smoke rings as Galdalf did as well. And Dumbledore... {Spoiler}Brom can be compared to the Harry Potter character Albus Dumbledore. Both of them had one best friend in their youth whom they dearly loved and worshiped (Morzan and Gellert Grindewald respectively). However, both Morzan and Gellert did not fully return their friends' affections and exploited them in subtle ways, with Morzan frequently ordering Brom around, while Gellert encouraged Albus to take over the Wizarding World and subjugate Muggles. In the end though, after Morzan and Gellert murdered someone else close to their friends (Saphira I and Ariana respectively), their strong friendships with Brom and Albus would come to an abrupt end. However, while Gellert's murder of Ariana was accidental, Morzan's murder of Saphira was deliberate. As a result, both Brom and Albus would make it their goal to defeat their former best friends in an epic duel, with Morzan being killed and Gellert being imprisoned for life in Nurmengard. In the aftermath of these duels, both Brom and Albus gained the weapon of their former friend (Zar'roc and the Elder Wand respectively). These weapons eventually came into the possession of their respective student (Eragon and Harry Potter). However, the greatest difference between the two was that Albus had fallen in love with Gellert, while Brom had fallen in love with Morzan's wife.
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Eragon?
May 17, 2015 12:31:31 GMT -5
Post by Spidyyr on May 17, 2015 12:31:31 GMT -5
Well then I guess you could argue that Dumby, Gandalf, and Obi sorta rip off each other too...
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Eragon?
May 17, 2015 14:34:20 GMT -5
Post by Pinda on May 17, 2015 14:34:20 GMT -5
Well then I guess you could argue that Dumby, Gandalf, and Obi sorta rip off each other too... Yeah, those stories (and a lot of other stories) are all based on the same concept that has been used for ages. Dumbledore, Gandalf and Obi-wan (OT Obi-wan) all play the role of the "mentor" as it is called in that concept. The mentor dying is also part of that concept (which is why Obi-wan and Dumbledore die and Gandalf seemed to have died). So yeah, none of these stories are very original if you look at it that way. I don't know anything about this "Eragon" by the way...
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Eragon?
May 17, 2015 19:44:29 GMT -5
Post by Star on May 17, 2015 19:44:29 GMT -5
This series has a lot more in common besides this one character though. Like the entire plot could be argued to be like SW. Farm boy discovers unknown special powers and is one of last of his "kind". Has old man mentor him until death. Throw in characters very similar to Solo, Chewie, Leia, etc., and in the end, have farm boy overthrow evil emperor. I don't feel this series is a total rip-off, but it does have a lot more in common with SW/LOTR than any other story I know of.
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Eragon?
Jul 23, 2015 16:26:29 GMT -5
Post by Legolas on Jul 23, 2015 16:26:29 GMT -5
OMG I didn't know we had this thread. Eragon is the best damn book series I've ever read. Ripoff...eh I guess I see some similarities but remember not to overthink it. Eragon had many unique qualities that set it apart from other series and storylines.
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Eragon?
Jul 23, 2015 16:34:15 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 23, 2015 16:34:15 GMT -5
I know nothing.
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Eragon?
Jul 23, 2015 17:05:48 GMT -5
Post by Ivar-Jedi on Jul 23, 2015 17:05:48 GMT -5
Only saw the movie and it was terrible.
But that doesn't mean i think the books are bad too. I just haven't read them.
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Post by Legolas on Jul 23, 2015 18:42:56 GMT -5
Well then grab the book and start reading... Only saw the movie and it was terrible. But that doesn't mean i think the books are bad too. I just haven't read them. Movie=this is fucking terrible, kill me Books= most beautiful thing you'll ever read
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Eragon?
Jul 23, 2015 18:43:25 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 23, 2015 18:43:25 GMT -5
Well then grab the book and start reading... Only saw the movie and it was terrible. But that doesn't mean i think the books are bad too. I just haven't read them. Movie=this is Potato is Awesomeing terrible, kill me Books= most beautiful thing you'll ever read Don't tell me wut to do yo
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Eragon?
Jul 24, 2015 21:28:18 GMT -5
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2015 21:28:18 GMT -5
OMG I didn't know we had this thread. Eragon is the best damn book series I've ever read. Ripoff...eh I guess I see some similarities but remember not to overthink it. Eragon had many unique qualities that set it apart from other series and storylines. Well yeah, it's not a total rip-off, but it has a lot in common with other big-name franchises. But yeah, this is an awesome series nonetheless.
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