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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 29, 2015 16:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Apr 29, 2015 16:59:56 GMT -5
I already watched all of it. It is alright, but nothing special compared to other TCW arcs. It would have been a lot better with real animation though. And these "bad batch" clones were supposed to be recurring characters apparently. Which would have been nice, I like them better then other clones.
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 29, 2015 17:11:17 GMT -5
I just saw the first part, liked the 99 nod. Who were those ARC Troopers? Like the replacement Echo and Fives?
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Post by Pinda on Apr 29, 2015 17:36:04 GMT -5
I just saw the first part, liked the 99 nod. Who were those ARC Troopers? Like the replacement Echo and Fives? Jesse and Kix. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 17:39:39 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 29, 2015 17:41:08 GMT -5
I just saw the first part, liked the 99 nod. Who were those ARC Troopers? Like the replacement Echo and Fives? Jesse and Kix. They're ARC Troopers now? |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 29, 2015 17:45:06 GMT -5
They're ARC Troopers now? Yes. It isn't mentioned in the arc itself but Filoni confirmed it when a fan asked about it. But it can be seen in the arc itself because there are names on written on their models. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 29, 2015 19:01:40 GMT -5
Watched it pretty good. I liked the Bad Batch. And I guess the separatist prisoners got released by this point it seems. Echo back is still pretty dumb though. I guess Bad Batch was going to be in Kashyyyk arc judging from what I saw before. Bad Batch is a poor mans Delta Squad |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 29, 2015 19:03:31 GMT -5
So I wonder if Trench really died this time... I mean it seems like it... but they could just have planned to bring him back again... at this point I wouldn't really be surprised.
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Post by Newan on Apr 29, 2015 19:07:38 GMT -5
So I wonder if Trench really died this time... I mean it seems like it... but they could just have planned to bring him back again... at this point I wouldn't really be surprised. Hopefully not his revival before make Echos 10x more stupid and yet they put them together in the same arc... Also the three legged droids there the first time we saw those since season 1 I believe and before that the movie so that's cool. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 29, 2015 19:08:24 GMT -5
I'd imagine this is the second last piece of video content still thinking Boba/ Bane will be the last. All else will be comics and stuff
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Post by Pinda on Apr 29, 2015 19:10:54 GMT -5
So I wonder if Trench really died this time... I mean it seems like it... but they could just have planned to bring him back again... at this point I wouldn't really be surprised. Hopefully not his revival before make Echos 10x more stupid and yet they put them together in the same arc... Also the three legged droids there the first time we saw those since season 1 I believe and before that the movie so that's cool. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing while watching it. Having them both in the same arc put an emphasis on how they were both revived. It wasn't a very great decision. Also, it's sort of weird how the Techno Union is considered neutral in this arc while on Ryloth they obviously weren't. And Watt Tambor was in prison not too much earlier... so how could he still claim neutrality? |
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Post by Newan on Apr 29, 2015 19:56:18 GMT -5
Hopefully not his revival before make Echos 10x more stupid and yet they put them together in the same arc... Also the three legged droids there the first time we saw those since season 1 I believe and before that the movie so that's cool. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing while watching it. Having them both in the same arc put an emphasis on how they were both revived. It wasn't a very great decision. Also, it's sort of weird how the Techno Union is considered neutral in this arc while on Ryloth they obviously weren't. And Watt Tambor was in prison not too much earlier... so how could he still claim neutrality? Same way Gunray gets away with it. They just say the leader is an extremist while the others in the group have no part and are neutral. I'd imagine the Techo Union may try to keep up a neutral appearance still. But didn't Obi-Wan over hear Tambor say they joined Dooku in episode 2 |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2015 6:42:03 GMT -5
What I still don't understand is why Disney didn't finish these episodes. Obviously there was already a lot of money in the early animation and voice acting. From a company's point of view it wouldn't make sense to not finish products in which they already invested money. It as if a chair producing company spend millions of making new chairs but then halfway through he decides to start making tables so he leaves thousands of unfinished chairs in his storage. That would mean he made a large loss. The same would apply to Disney with these episodes.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2015 6:43:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing while watching it. Having them both in the same arc put an emphasis on how they were both revived. It wasn't a very great decision. Also, it's sort of weird how the Techno Union is considered neutral in this arc while on Ryloth they obviously weren't. And Watt Tambor was in prison not too much earlier... so how could he still claim neutrality? Same way Gunray gets away with it. They just say the leader is an extremist while the others in the group have no part and are neutral. I'd imagine the Techo Union may try to keep up a neutral appearance still. But didn't Obi-Wan over hear Tambor say they joined Dooku in episode 2 But Wat Tambor is their leader and a convicted war criminal... and Wat Tambor was the one involved in this arc. So I don't understand why he was considered neutral and why the Jedi couldn't do anything against him if he just escaped prison (I doubt the Jedi let him go). |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 30, 2015 7:33:48 GMT -5
What I still don't understand is why Disney didn't finish these episodes. Obviously there was already a lot of money in the early animation and voice acting. From a company's point of view it wouldn't make sense to not finish products in which they already invested money. It as if a chair producing company spend millions of making new chairs but then halfway through he decides to start making tables so he leaves thousands of unfinished chairs in his storage. That would mean he made a large loss. The same would apply to Disney with these episodes. Probably just to spite us |
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Post by Newan on Apr 30, 2015 8:51:33 GMT -5
What I still don't understand is why Disney didn't finish these episodes. Obviously there was already a lot of money in the early animation and voice acting. From a company's point of view it wouldn't make sense to not finish products in which they already invested money. It as if a chair producing company spend millions of making new chairs but then halfway through he decides to start making tables so he leaves thousands of unfinished chairs in his storage. That would mean he made a large loss. The same would apply to Disney with these episodes. I understand why they did it. they just wanted to start fresh which isn't such a bad idea in this case it's not like they're scrapping TCW and stuff and doing an entire reboot but they don't want to carry over old work But Lucasarts also scrapped all the good video game ideas like KOTOR 3, Republic Commando 2, Jedi Knight series and Battlefront 3 which was finished production and in the final stages of getting ready for the following year for shipping. Quite clear why Lucasarts had to be replaced. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Apr 30, 2015 13:35:25 GMT -5
IDK. I liked the episodes.... but it felt weird. It wasn't consistent. Maybe episodes before this would have made this arc feel like it was complete, but why didn't they use Bad Batch squad on other missions like the citadel, Umbara, other missions since they've been around for a long time since they've been doing missions for Cody. Then Watt Tambor felt random, how was he freed? The whole Algorithms were stupid I thought and wasn't a smart plot idea, neither was reviving Echo. There's just too many plot holes, bad storyline. Not the greatest arc, not the worst, but definitely not the best. Utapau arc though wasn't good in my opinion. These four episode arcs drag out way too long, they need to be stopped. I rather have them given time to develop more interesting storylines in 4 episode arcs then have to sit through watching a story for four episodes straight that isn't good.
Anyways just my opinion. Ventress and the new Ahsoka storyline will be hopefully good. But you can see that episodes written entirely by Dave Filoni aren't good. George Lucas' daughter seems to be the only one capable of writing well developed 4 episode arcs. Not anyone else.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2015 14:53:37 GMT -5
IDK. I liked the episodes.... but it felt weird. It wasn't consistent. Maybe episodes before this would have made this arc feel like it was complete, but why didn't they use Bad Batch squad on other missions like the citadel, Umbara, other missions since they've been around for a long time since they've been doing missions for Cody. Then Watt Tambor felt random, how was he freed? The whole Algorithms were stupid I thought and wasn't a smart plot idea, neither was reviving Echo. There's just too many plot holes, bad storyline. Not the greatest arc, not the worst, but definitely not the best. Utapau arc though wasn't good in my opinion. These four episode arcs drag out way too long, they need to be stopped. I rather have them given time to develop more interesting storylines in 4 episode arcs then have to sit through watching a story for four episodes straight that isn't good. Anyways just my opinion. Ventress and the new Ahsoka storyline will be hopefully good. But you can see that episodes written entirely by Dave Filoni aren't good. George Lucas' daughter seems to be the only one capable of writing well developed 4 episode arcs. Not anyone else. Filoni didn't write this arc though... |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2015 14:54:43 GMT -5
What I still don't understand is why Disney didn't finish these episodes. Obviously there was already a lot of money in the early animation and voice acting. From a company's point of view it wouldn't make sense to not finish products in which they already invested money. It as if a chair producing company spend millions of making new chairs but then halfway through he decides to start making tables so he leaves thousands of unfinished chairs in his storage. That would mean he made a large loss. The same would apply to Disney with these episodes. I understand why they did it. they just wanted to start fresh which isn't such a bad idea in this case it's not like they're scrapping TCW and stuff and doing an entire reboot but they don't want to carry over old work But Lucasarts also scrapped all the good video game ideas like KOTOR 3, Republic Commando 2, Jedi Knight series and Battlefront 3 which was finished production and in the final stages of getting ready for the following year for shipping. Quite clear why Lucasarts had to be replaced. Still, finishing the episodes that were already in early animation stages makes more sense from an economic point of view. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Apr 30, 2015 15:25:25 GMT -5
IDK. I liked the episodes.... but it felt weird. It wasn't consistent. Maybe episodes before this would have made this arc feel like it was complete, but why didn't they use Bad Batch squad on other missions like the citadel, Umbara, other missions since they've been around for a long time since they've been doing missions for Cody. Then Watt Tambor felt random, how was he freed? The whole Algorithms were stupid I thought and wasn't a smart plot idea, neither was reviving Echo. There's just too many plot holes, bad storyline. Not the greatest arc, not the worst, but definitely not the best. Utapau arc though wasn't good in my opinion. These four episode arcs drag out way too long, they need to be stopped. I rather have them given time to develop more interesting storylines in 4 episode arcs then have to sit through watching a story for four episodes straight that isn't good. Anyways just my opinion. Ventress and the new Ahsoka storyline will be hopefully good. But you can see that episodes written entirely by Dave Filoni aren't good. George Lucas' daughter seems to be the only one capable of writing well developed 4 episode arcs. Not anyone else. Filoni didn't write this arc though... Regardless he made the idea to have Echo alive. He brought to the table most of the plot elements but others just pinched them all together. It was messy writing. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 30, 2015 15:43:16 GMT -5
The story was kind of random to be honest. Like just had some thing Rex created as an excuse for Echo being back
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 30, 2015 16:23:47 GMT -5
Still didn't watch it but yeah making everything a 4-part arc isn't always a good idea... But at least its better than a 16-episode arc set on ONE planet.
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Post by bobafett590 on Apr 30, 2015 16:49:06 GMT -5
The story was kind of random to be honest. Like just had some thing Rex created as an excuse for Echo being back Not surprised the story wasn't that good because tbh TCW was in decline at the time of cancellation. By Season 8 it probably would have been a mess... |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2015 17:05:26 GMT -5
The story was kind of random to be honest. Like just had some thing Rex created as an excuse for Echo being back Not surprised the story wasn't that good because tbh TCW was in decline at the time of cancellation. By Season 8 it probably would have been a mess... How was it in decline? The Maul and Ahsoka arcs were some of the best. And the bonus content was great too. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2015 17:06:12 GMT -5
The story was kind of random to be honest. Like just had some thing Rex created as an excuse for Echo being back Still makes a lot more sense than Rebels. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 30, 2015 19:03:11 GMT -5
Still didn't watch it but yeah making everything a 4-part arc isn't always a good idea... But at least its better than a 16-episode arc set on ONE planet. Rebels isn't a collection of stories it's a continuous storyline like most shows. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 30, 2015 19:10:31 GMT -5
The story was kind of random to be honest. Like just had some thing Rex created as an excuse for Echo being back Not surprised the story wasn't that good because tbh TCW was in decline at the time of cancellation. By Season 8 it probably would have been a mess... Yeah there's some truth to this. Season 2-4 where pretty prime for the most part. Season 5 wasn't as good. Season 6 was better but they probably went all out to make some good finishing stories. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 30, 2015 19:43:28 GMT -5
Not surprised the story wasn't that good because tbh TCW was in decline at the time of cancellation. By Season 8 it probably would have been a mess... Yeah there's some truth to this. Season 2-4 where pretty prime for the most part. Season 5 wasn't as good. Season 6 was better but they probably went all out to make some good finishing stories. They didn't go "all out" because they didn't know it would be cancelled... |
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Post by Newan on Apr 30, 2015 19:53:11 GMT -5
Yeah there's some truth to this. Season 2-4 where pretty prime for the most part. Season 5 wasn't as good. Season 6 was better but they probably went all out to make some good finishing stories. They didn't go "all out" because they didn't know it would be cancelled... Clovis was supposed to be season five so that doesn't really count but they made the Yoda arc from scratch |
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