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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2016 21:45:05 GMT -5
Pretty good finale. Not as good as episode 9, but that's usually how it is in Game of Thrones.
I'm really bummed they killed Margaery... that's really wasted potential with her character. Everyone else dying made sense, but Margaery's death made her arc this season pointless. I guess it gives Ollena some incentive to get revenge at least. What even was Margaery's plan though? Get Cersei convicted and maybe executed by the Faith Militant? Then what? The explosion of the Sept looked amazing though.
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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2016 21:46:58 GMT -5
I know they edited it so we couldn't fully here what she said, but did Lyanna say "His name is Jon Targaryan"? That's what it sounded like to me. I mean, there's not a shred of doubt that R+L= J is true at this point, but I'm still curious if that's exactly what she told Ned.
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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2016 21:47:48 GMT -5
Oh, and I guess it's now safe to say that Lady Stoneheart is definitely never coming to the show.
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Post by bane on Jun 26, 2016 23:10:42 GMT -5
I know they edited it so we couldn't fully here what she said, but did Lyanna say "His name is Jon Targaryan"? That's what it sounded like to me. I mean, there's not a shred of doubt that R+L= J is true at this point, but I'm still curious if that's exactly what she told Ned. I kinda forgot, what is R + L = J? |
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Post by bane on Jun 26, 2016 23:17:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty happy with the final, I think it was time that Tommen died, as well as most of the others.
I'm really interested to see what Sansa does from this point forward. It was pretty obvious that she wasn't totally happy about the situation after her talk with Little Finger. I get the feeling that at some point she'll sink the ship because she wants power.
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2016 23:18:24 GMT -5
Very good finale, much better then season 5. Actually the last 2 episodes made the show much better then season 5 but overall the season was weaker then season 4. Like I predicted Margaery died as did Tommen and everyone else. Kind of funny that all that background cast in Kings Landing is now gone... The Tyrells, Tywins Brother, Pycell and some other randoms. Knew Tommen would die as well though, lot of people didn't think he or Margaery would die. Cersei made herself Queen no surprise, but Jaime is probably going to kill her sometime midways season 7. Might need her around for the war to come. However Jaime could make himself King and it wouldn't be surprising at this point. Happy Bronn didn't die though  , not yet. For some reason I thought he would die this season but the best side character lives on!!! |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2016 23:22:09 GMT -5
So Dorn, half of the Iron Islands and what is left of the Tyrells is on Danys side I guess... Not sure how Varys appeared in Dorn and got back to Dany though...Also did Dany and Varys ever speak?? Dany thinks he tried to have her killed does she not?
Tyrion as the hand is expected, the best choice for the role.
Arya did something useful, that's good. I hope she goes to Winterfell now, maybe Bran goes as well.
No Hound, kind of surprising but I guess he's going to meet up with Mel now since the Hound is with those lord of light worshippers.
No Nights Watch, or White Walkers either. I predict season 7 isn't going to be about them but about Dany and Westeros season 8 will be the final battle and the White Walkers
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2016 23:24:12 GMT -5
Makes sense why season 7/8 are supposed to be like part 1/2. The first part will wrap up Dany, the 2nd will be the White Walkers. Obviously we will see some White Walkers maybe in the North next season or else Jon won't be doing anything but the real Whife Walker stuff will be in season 8 I think.
Also Sams stuff is so stupid, not needed and I don't see how it affects anything. Seems like fan service for people who may like him
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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2016 23:24:54 GMT -5
I know they edited it so we couldn't fully here what she said, but did Lyanna say "His name is Jon Targaryan"? That's what it sounded like to me. I mean, there's not a shred of doubt that R+L= J is true at this point, but I'm still curious if that's exactly what she told Ned. I kinda forgot, what is R + L = J? Lyanna Stark and Raghaer Targaryen (the oldest son of the Mad King and the heir to the throne before his death in Robert's Rebellion) being the parents of Jon Snow, which would make Jon half Targaryen, half Stark, and have a claim to the Iron Throne. |
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Post by bane on Jun 26, 2016 23:27:18 GMT -5
I kinda forgot, what is R + L = J? Lyanna Stark and Raghaer Targaryen (the oldest son of the Mad King and the heir to the throne before his death in Robert's Rebellion) being the parents of Jon Snow, which would make Jon half Targaryen, half Stark, and have a claim to the Iron Throne. Intterrressttttinnngggg But Dany has a better claim, right? |
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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2016 23:27:32 GMT -5
RIP half the Game of Thrones cast though.  The guy who directed this episode also directed Battle of the Bastards and Hardhome... they should just have him direct all the episodes from now on. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2016 23:29:29 GMT -5
Lyanna Stark and Raghaer Targaryen (the oldest son of the Mad King and the heir to the throne before his death in Robert's Rebellion) being the parents of Jon Snow, which would make Jon half Targaryen, half Stark, and have a claim to the Iron Throne. Intterrressttttinnngggg But Dany has a better claim, right? I don't know for sure since I don't know all the rules for claims, but she might since she was legitimately born. Unless Lyanna and Raghaer married before Raghaer died, Jon's still a bastard and might not have a legit claim. I'm guessing this will be a big plot point for the final season. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2016 23:30:55 GMT -5
RIP half the Game of Thrones cast though. The guy who directed this episode also directed Battle of the Bastards and Hardhome... they should just have him direct all the episodes from now on. Well if season 7 and 8 and only like 15 episodes total then it will leave a lot more budget for better episodes, more battles and stuff. So I expect the quality of these last 2 seasons to be spectacular. We got most of the filler crap out of the way and everything is kind of wrapped up now and heading in the same direction. 2 main plots. White Walkers/ North and Dany/ Lannisters it seems. Some side plots with questions the Hound and Jorah being the big two... I thought we would see Jorah, he fell off the map |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2016 23:36:58 GMT -5
Glad Jon is ruling and not Sansa, she isn't fit to rule..
Also Dany and Jon should get married, 100% legit claim!!!
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Post by bane on Jun 26, 2016 23:38:49 GMT -5
I agree with Newan, I think the thrones stuff will be sorted out before they deal with the white walkers.
Overally a pretty phat episode in terms of plot development.
I'm also glad Dany left the fuccboi behind, he annoyed me. I doubt he or that city will be in the story again for a long time.
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Post by bane on Jun 26, 2016 23:41:26 GMT -5
Glad Jon is ruling and not Sansa, she isn't fit to rule.. Also Dany and Jon should get married, 100% legit claim!!! D + J = Thrones That would be a great ending in my opinion. Sansa can go suck a dick |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2016 23:48:00 GMT -5
The Lannisters vs Dany doesn't help anyone though, it just weakens them... For the real fight.
I also think the Lannisters have a real chance to defeat most of the invading force leaving Dany very crippled
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 27, 2016 0:44:11 GMT -5
Holy shit that was awesome
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Post by Pinda on Jun 27, 2016 5:02:45 GMT -5
Oh, and I guess it's now safe to say that Lady Stoneheart is definitely never coming to the show. Guess those episode descriptions were false... the first two seemed right though. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 27, 2016 5:14:56 GMT -5
So I guess Varys and Arya took a flight with Littlefinger airlines? I mean Arya randomly shows up at the Twins, while she was in Braavos just two episodes ago. And Varys goes from Dorne to Mereen in the same episode?
Also, don't get why killing Pycelle was important in this episode? I know he died in the books but still, there was no reason to kill him at that moment... it had nothing to do with the rest of the scene.
Anyway, kind of a predictable episode really... like the rest of the season... and was that Dorne and Sam stuff really needed? Still, most of it was good.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 27, 2016 5:16:16 GMT -5
Tommen just casually walking out of a window felt a bit weird... He was like "Fuck this shit! I'm out!" I guarantee there will be a Brexit meme made from that clip.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 27, 2016 5:24:18 GMT -5
Really love how everything is coming together. I know I said earlier that things didn't look like they could be resolved in 13 more episodes... but now they do... Everyone is in place for the final act.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 27, 2016 5:37:05 GMT -5
The sword of Arthur Dayne was forged from a star... and it was "bleeding" in that scene... Jon = Azor Ahai confirmed.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 27, 2016 9:59:59 GMT -5
Hmm, rewatched Tommen's death scene... it's actually really dark, even for GOT. He doesn't say anything, he doesn't show any emotion, he just walks towards the window and jumps. And after all the shit he has been through that is just so dark... Really, I was fairly certain he would die in this episode or at the start of season 7, but I didn't expect it to be a like this... this was greatest surprise in the episode in my opinion.
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Post by Potato on Jun 27, 2016 10:39:23 GMT -5
So I guess Varys and Arya took a flight with Littlefinger airlines? I mean Arya randomly shows up at the Twins, while she was in Braavos just two episodes ago. And Varys goes from Dorne to Mereen in the same episode? Also, don't get why killing Pycelle was important in this episode? I know he died in the books but still, there was no reason to kill him at that moment... it had nothing to do with the rest of the scene. Anyway, kind of a predictable episode really... like the rest of the season... and was that Dorne and Sam stuff really needed? Still, most of it was good. I think Qyburn killed Pycelle so he could become the new Maester. Maybe Pycelle wasn't going to the trial so he had to be killed by the "little birds" instead? Either way, I think that scene was important because it helped build the tension of the big boom. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 27, 2016 10:43:44 GMT -5
I don't like the conflict they're starting to establish between Jon and Sansa... it feels random and not needed. And it unfortunately seems like it's going to be a big plot point in Season 7. Anyway, my main guesses for Season 7 are:
Bran gets to Winterfell and reveals Jon's parentage. This causes people to question him and his claim and it makes Sansa doubt him more.
Dany gets to Westeros and eventually attacks King's Landing... Jaime will probably kill Cersei.
Melisandre meets up with Arya. Maybe they run into the Brotherhood Without Banners too.
The Wall comes down. This has to happen eventually, and Benjen saying that its magic keeps the dead out just foreshadows it even more.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 27, 2016 10:51:35 GMT -5
I don't like the conflict they're starting to establish between Jon and Sansa... it feels random and not needed. And it unfortunately seems like it's going to be a big plot point in Season 7. Anyway, my main guesses for Season 7 are: Bran gets to Winterfell and reveals Jon's parentage. This causes people to question him and his claim and it makes Sansa doubt him more. Dany gets to Westeros and eventually attacks King's Landing... Jaime will probably kill Cersei. Melisandre meets up with Arya. Maybe they run into the Brotherhood Without Banners too. The Wall comes down. This has to happen eventually, and Benjen saying that its magic keeps the dead out just foreshadows it even more. I don't think there is conflict between them. Sansa was smiling when Jon was chosen as "King of the North" and she offered him the room of the lord. I feel like there will be conflict between her and Jon and Littlefinger though. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 27, 2016 11:02:16 GMT -5
So what does Littlefinger do now?
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Post by Potato on Jun 27, 2016 11:14:52 GMT -5
I don't like the conflict they're starting to establish between Jon and Sansa... it feels random and not needed. And it unfortunately seems like it's going to be a big plot point in Season 7. Anyway, my main guesses for Season 7 are: Bran gets to Winterfell and reveals Jon's parentage. This causes people to question him and his claim and it makes Sansa doubt him more. Dany gets to Westeros and eventually attacks King's Landing... Jaime will probably kill Cersei. Melisandre meets up with Arya. Maybe they run into the Brotherhood Without Banners too. The Wall comes down. This has to happen eventually, and Benjen saying that its magic keeps the dead out just foreshadows it even more. I don't think there is conflict between them. Sansa was smiling when Jon was chosen as "King of the North" and she offered him the room of the lord. I feel like there will be conflict between her and Jon and Littlefinger though. One of the Behind the Scenes videos for the episode said the tension between Jon and Sansa is going to carry into the next season unfortunately. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 27, 2016 11:15:47 GMT -5
I can't stop watching that last scene with Dany and her forces sailing to Westeros... the music was awesome and it looks beautiful too. That was probably the perfect scene to end the season with.
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Wars Story
, not yet. For some reason I thought he would die this season but the best side character lives on!!!
