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Post by Namialus on Mar 11, 2014 23:52:10 GMT -5
I'm still suspicious of Gatar. I know I don't have the most groundbreaking evidence against him but I really do find him suspicious. And no, it's not because of past games, it's because of this game and this game alone. And I'm not the only one that feels this way. Indeed I also have a bad feeling about him. Not much evidence though I don't trust him one bit. But leaving him around leaves a powerful possible scum out there. kiss up.
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Post by Potato on Mar 11, 2014 23:54:51 GMT -5
He defended Evazan more than anyone else yesterday, and he stated several times he thinks we should hold off on him and go for someone else (like the Dug). He said Evazan was too bold to be scum and then said today that he always thought Evazan was scum, and I just got a weird vibe from him all of Day 1. Plus his vote, which may have been to hide behind you since you already voted the Dug. Like I said, no groundbreaking evidence, but it's a strong feeling. "Defended"? Please reread the discussion - I called him an idiot more than once and blatantly stated I really did not care for Evazan's fate. I never once stated that we should hold off on Evazan, I just said that I felt the Dug was more suspicious. Why? Because Evazan was more bold than the Dug, he voted first. So stop filtering out what I said to fit your evidence - the essence of this accusation is that you are shocked I chose not to follow you. I didn't, and what did Evazan come up as? Loyal. That's what I meant, to bold to be scum. Yes, I did say he was the second most suspicious, which was true when compared to most if not all other players. And never once did I say I always thought Evazan was scum. Please use truth instead. Instead of using poodoo-quality evidence against me... -You and Derrown seem to have created an alliance right on Day 1. Derrown seems to right away agree with you. It's rather hard to believe. -The essence of your evidence is based on past games - normally you would think I would make my own evidence up. True, that is, but perhaps I am trying to make a more considerate approach in light of how many times I've failed in the past. I'm loyal and you're wasting your time. Please find actual evidence against me and stop with the poodoo. Nope, you said multiple times you thought the Dug was better and you even said Evazan couldn't be scum several times on Day 1. -We always PM each other on the first day. You were in the first PM until we made a different talking about how we were suspicious of you. And I haven't been quick to trust Derrown, it's trust that's been formed over time. Believe me, I didn't trust him on Day 1. -This has nothing to do with past games, I said so myself. So your defense about it involving past games doesn't work. And just because you say you're loyal doesn't mean you're actually loyal. You said that yourself. You seem to be accusing me just because I'm accusing you.
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Post by bane on Mar 11, 2014 23:57:28 GMT -5
OMG THE COMIC RELIEF
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Post by Namialus on Mar 11, 2014 23:58:03 GMT -5
"Defended"? Please reread the discussion - I called him an idiot more than once and blatantly stated I really did not care for Evazan's fate. I never once stated that we should hold off on Evazan, I just said that I felt the Dug was more suspicious. Why? Because Evazan was more bold than the Dug, he voted first. So stop filtering out what I said to fit your evidence - the essence of this accusation is that you are shocked I chose not to follow you. I didn't, and what did Evazan come up as? Loyal. That's what I meant, to bold to be scum. Yes, I did say he was the second most suspicious, which was true when compared to most if not all other players. And never once did I say I always thought Evazan was scum. Please use truth instead. Instead of using poodoo-quality evidence against me... -You and Derrown seem to have created an alliance right on Day 1. Derrown seems to right away agree with you. It's rather hard to believe. -The essence of your evidence is based on past games - normally you would think I would make my own evidence up. True, that is, but perhaps I am trying to make a more considerate approach in light of how many times I've failed in the past. I'm loyal and you're wasting your time. Please find actual evidence against me and stop with the poodoo. Nope, you said multiple times you thought the Dug was better and you even said Evazan couldn't be scum several times on Day 1. -We always PM each other on the first day. You were in the first PM until we made a different talking about how we were suspicious of you. And I haven't been quick to trust Derrown, it's trust that's been formed over time. Believe me, I didn't trust him on Day 1. -This has nothing to do with past games, I said so myself. So your defense about it involving past games doesn't work. And just because you say you're loyal doesn't mean you're actually loyal. You said that yourself. You seem to be accusing me just because I'm accusing you. I did think the Dug was better... that's what I said... and yes, Evazan couldn't be scum to me because he claimed a role... thanks for proving my defense. -Always, yes. This old alliance has been constantly happening over many games and I am normally your target. So yes, this does include past games. And did I say I was accusing you? Please read. Never once did I say I thought you were scum. I'm defending myself against dismal evidence.
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 0:01:39 GMT -5
Nope, you said multiple times you thought the Dug was better and you even said Evazan couldn't be scum several times on Day 1. -We always PM each other on the first day. You were in the first PM until we made a different talking about how we were suspicious of you. And I haven't been quick to trust Derrown, it's trust that's been formed over time. Believe me, I didn't trust him on Day 1. -This has nothing to do with past games, I said so myself. So your defense about it involving past games doesn't work. And just because you say you're loyal doesn't mean you're actually loyal. You said that yourself. You seem to be accusing me just because I'm accusing you. I did think the Dug was better... that's what I said... and yes, Evazan couldn't be scum to me because he claimed a role... thanks for proving my defense. -Always, yes. This old alliance has been constantly happening over many games and I am normally your target. So yes, this does include past games. And did I say I was accusing you? Please read. Never once did I say I thought you were scum. I'm defending myself against dismal evidence. You defended Evazan before he claimed a role. And even after he claimed the role, you later said you were fine with either vote. -No, the past few games we've been loyal, we figured that, so we team up. It will change one day when one of us is scum, but this game I think Derrown is loyal after thinking about it. You're not a target. It seems more like an accusation to me, especially because you said "Ponda stands out". If you're not accusing me, then who are your suspects?
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 0:03:32 GMT -5
To bring up someone other than Gatar so I don't get so involved with trying to vote him, what about Taklar? He's been quiet and I've been extremely iffy about him the entire time.
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 0:04:10 GMT -5
Highsinger's sort of a wild card too. Same with the Dug.
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Post by Namialus on Mar 12, 2014 0:08:44 GMT -5
I did think the Dug was better... that's what I said... and yes, Evazan couldn't be scum to me because he claimed a role... thanks for proving my defense. -Always, yes. This old alliance has been constantly happening over many games and I am normally your target. So yes, this does include past games. And did I say I was accusing you? Please read. Never once did I say I thought you were scum. I'm defending myself against dismal evidence. You defended Evazan before he claimed a role. And even after he claimed the role, you later said you were fine with either vote. -No, the past few games we've been loyal, we figured that, so we team up. It will change one day when one of us is scum, but this game I think Derrown is loyal after thinking about it. You're not a target. It seems more like an accusation to me, especially because you said "Ponda stands out". If you're not accusing me, then who are your suspects? I never defended Evazan. I said I found the Dug more suspicious. Because Evazan was bold. This is not a defense of Evazan. -I rather have begun to think I am a target, or at least someone you always look into no matter what. Look at the character list - how am I more suspicious than anyone else? In fact I think you could come up with better evidence against quite a few other players over me. Ponda, you, does stand out. Your accusations don't make sense. You're "iffy" about people, that is all that you can say. And Derrown kissing up to you is too odd for me to let go of. My suspects? Derrown, because he agreed with you quite easily, and Todo stands out as well, but he seems to make some sense. The one person I trust is Jakt, but [Pinda] also somewhat rather reasonable despite being rather quiet.
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Post by Namialus on Mar 12, 2014 0:09:52 GMT -5
To bring up someone other than Gatar so I don't get so involved with trying to vote him, what about Taklar? He's been quiet and I've been extremely iffy about him the entire time. Is "iffy" your accusations all the time... Taklar is a hmmm, but the fact that he's quiet could also be said for a few other people.
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 0:11:52 GMT -5
To bring up someone other than Gatar so I don't get so involved with trying to vote him, what about Taklar? He's been quiet and I've been extremely iffy about him the entire time. Is "iffy" your accusations all the time... Taklar is a hmmm, but the fact that he's quiet could also be said for a few other people. Why do you trust him?
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 0:12:39 GMT -5
You defended Evazan before he claimed a role. And even after he claimed the role, you later said you were fine with either vote. -No, the past few games we've been loyal, we figured that, so we team up. It will change one day when one of us is scum, but this game I think Derrown is loyal after thinking about it. You're not a target. It seems more like an accusation to me, especially because you said "Ponda stands out". If you're not accusing me, then who are your suspects? I never defended Evazan. I said I found the Dug more suspicious. Because Evazan was bold. This is not a defense of Evazan. -I rather have begun to think I am a target, or at least someone you always look into no matter what. Look at the character list - how am I more suspicious than anyone else? In fact I think you could come up with better evidence against quite a few other players over me. Ponda, you, does stand out. Your accusations don't make sense. You're "iffy" about people, that is all that you can say. And Derrown kissing up to you is too odd for me to let go of. My suspects? Derrown, because he agreed with you quite easily, and Todo stands out as well, but he seems to make some sense. The one person I trust is Jakt, but [Pinda] also somewhat rather reasonable despite being rather quiet. Basically, yeah. But when there's not a lot of evidence anyway, I think the small amounts of it and bad feelings about people work.
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Post by Namialus on Mar 12, 2014 0:14:31 GMT -5
Is "iffy" your accusations all the time... Taklar is a hmmm, but the fact that he's quiet could also be said for a few other people. Why do you trust him? "Trust" is a strong word. I just think that in the small number of comments he's posted, he seems rather reasonable.
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 0:15:49 GMT -5
"Trust" is a strong word. I just think that in the small number of comments he's posted, he seems rather reasonable. Reasonable how?
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 0:22:00 GMT -5
GTG, but my main suspects are Gatar, Taklar, the Dug, and Todo (I'm sort of suspicious of Highsinger too).
Since voting will still be up tomorrow, Jakt, do NOT kill anyone until we've all decided on who you should kill. If there's no other options, kill the Dug I guess, but we need to discuss more before making it final.
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Post by Namialus on Mar 12, 2014 0:23:34 GMT -5
"Trust" is a strong word. I just think that in the small number of comments he's posted, he seems rather reasonable. Reasonable how? Seems like someone who'd listen instead of making quick decisions. But remember that he does not have many comments to read from.
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Post by Namialus on Mar 12, 2014 0:23:48 GMT -5
GTG, but my main suspects are Gatar, Taklar, the Dug, and Todo (I'm sort of suspicious of Highsinger too). Since voting will still be up tomorrow, Jakt, do NOT kill anyone until we've all decided on who you should kill. If there's no other options, kill the Dug I guess, but we need to discuss more before making it final. *facepalm* I must go as well.
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Post by Newan on Mar 12, 2014 0:38:40 GMT -5
GTG, but my main suspects are Gatar, Taklar, the Dug, and Todo (I'm sort of suspicious of Highsinger too). Since voting will still be up tomorrow, Jakt, do NOT kill anyone until we've all decided on who you should kill. If there's no other options, kill the Dug I guess, but we need to discuss more before making it final. *facepalm* I must go as well. Umm I trust Ponda he's been helping and I am not following him at all in fact I was the first to bring up my suspicions of you. And I have more reasons to believe him than just what you think... And actually yes it was all evidence in this game like for real...
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Post by Newan on Mar 12, 2014 0:43:01 GMT -5
I did think the Dug was better... that's what I said... and yes, Evazan couldn't be scum to me because he claimed a role... thanks for proving my defense. -Always, yes. This old alliance has been constantly happening over many games and I am normally your target. So yes, this does include past games. And did I say I was accusing you? Please read. Never once did I say I thought you were scum. I'm defending myself against dismal evidence. You defended Evazan before he claimed a role. And even after he claimed the role, you later said you were fine with either vote. -No, the past few games we've been loyal, we figured that, so we team up. It will change one day when one of us is scum, but this game I think Derrown is loyal after thinking about it. You're not a target. It seems more like an accusation to me, especially because you said "Ponda stands out". If you're not accusing me, then who are your suspects? OOC: Have we actually been on opposite sides before? Most of the times I'm scum you're usually scum with me. But yes one day I assume it will change IC: And I was still the first to say I had a bad feeling about Gatar and suspected him so his following accusation is stupid. I made the PM in the first place... Namialus please find actual evidence thanks and I even went to Ponda after to discuss the concern of too many followers and the fact that we wouldn't be able to get anything done in this state. Would be pretty hypocritical if I was following and said that....
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Post by Malgus on Mar 12, 2014 1:28:29 GMT -5
GTG, but my main suspects are Gatar, Taklar, the Dug, and Todo (I'm sort of suspicious of Highsinger too). Since voting will still be up tomorrow, Jakt, do NOT kill anyone until we've all decided on who you should kill. If there's no other options, kill the Dug I guess, but we need to discuss more before making it final. Once you get back I'd like to hear why you suspect me. The only thing I can think of besides the old "gut feeling" is you not trusting the inspection results. So either you think Mav isn't even the real inspector, or that I have a big scum role and Mav got unlucky with his choice. Anyway I'm not the ideal target for inspection since I haven't done very much yet... So very unlucky I guess? Hmm.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 12, 2014 1:49:10 GMT -5
I take it then there's no point in me voting ( ). As of now, I still have suspicions of the Dug and possibly Taklar. Derrown seems to me the most loyal and I really don't know what to say about Gatar and Ponda and their argument. I have some feeling that they might both be loyal, but I think I can safely say they're not both scum.
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 12, 2014 1:59:19 GMT -5
I take it then there's no point in me voting ( ). As of now, I still have suspicions of the Dug and possibly Taklar. Derrown seems to me the most loyal and I really don't know what to say about Gatar and Ponda and their argument. I have some feeling that they might both be loyal, but I think I can safely say they're not both scum. Thank god they're not both scum. We might have a TWOME fight 2.0 in this game
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 12, 2014 2:08:40 GMT -5
I take it then there's no point in me voting ( ). As of now, I still have suspicions of the Dug and possibly Taklar. Derrown seems to me the most loyal and I really don't know what to say about Gatar and Ponda and their argument. I have some feeling that they might both be loyal, but I think I can safely say they're not both scum. Thank god they're not both scum. We might have a TWOME fight 2.0 in this game You just said an improbability and a likely possibility. OOC: One which I'd like to see happen ( )
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 12, 2014 2:13:39 GMT -5
I think that if Derrown is loyal, then Ponda is too. And I have a feeling that one but not both Ponda or Gatar is scum.
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Post by Pinda on Mar 12, 2014 2:56:11 GMT -5
I take it then there's no point in me voting ( ). As of now, I still have suspicions of the Dug and possibly Taklar. Derrown seems to me the most loyal and I really don't know what to say about Gatar and Ponda and their argument. I have some feeling that they might both be loyal, but I think I can safely say they're not both scum. Why me?
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 12, 2014 5:13:29 GMT -5
Um yeah VOTE: MAV..
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 12, 2014 5:16:34 GMT -5
Everyone's evidence is gut feelings now..? I think there are a few other people with a bit more... Todo for example.. He gets active right after he's accused of being inactive and kind of avoids arguments... I've said this a few times but I'm not sure if anyone saw because no one really said anything..
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 12, 2014 6:22:11 GMT -5
I take it then there's no point in me voting ( ). As of now, I still have suspicions of the Dug and possibly Taklar. Derrown seems to me the most loyal and I really don't know what to say about Gatar and Ponda and their argument. I have some feeling that they might both be loyal, but I think I can safely say they're not both scum. Why me? You have a rather quiet disposition, but like I said my suspicion of you doesn't stem that far as of now.
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Post by Newan on Mar 12, 2014 8:14:33 GMT -5
Everyone's evidence is gut feelings now..? I think there are a few other people with a bit more... Todo for example.. He gets active right after he's accused of being inactive and kind of avoids arguments... I've said this a few times but I'm not sure if anyone saw because no one really said anything.. Probably feelings from a shit day 1 vote.
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Post by Pinda on Mar 12, 2014 8:23:58 GMT -5
You have a rather quiet disposition, but like I said my suspicion of you doesn't stem that far as of now. Well, I'm no more quiet than you. And I posted my suspicions with explanations. So I'm not really trying to stay on the background. But you'll probably get my vote today, as the inspector I trust you the most. I just hope you make the right decision and discuss with the rest of us first. OOC: I've a testweek coming up and some essays to turn in. That is why I'm not as active as usual.
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Post by Namialus on Mar 12, 2014 9:49:02 GMT -5
You defended Evazan before he claimed a role. And even after he claimed the role, you later said you were fine with either vote. -No, the past few games we've been loyal, we figured that, so we team up. It will change one day when one of us is scum, but this game I think Derrown is loyal after thinking about it. You're not a target. It seems more like an accusation to me, especially because you said "Ponda stands out". If you're not accusing me, then who are your suspects? OOC: Have we actually been on opposite sides before? Most of the times I'm scum you're usually scum with me. But yes one day I assume it will change IC: And I was still the first to say I had a bad feeling about Gatar and suspected him so his following accusation is stupid. I made the PM in the first place... Namialus please find actual evidence thanks and I even went to Ponda after to discuss the concern of too many followers and the fact that we wouldn't be able to get anything done in this state. Would be pretty hypocritical if I was following and said that.... I found evidence to disprove your accusations - not to accuse you. I am *not* accusing Ponda, if you think that please reread everything. However, I am rather wary of you and how close you two seem to be.
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