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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 13:38:46 GMT -5
You don't have to crush anything. Cultures will merge over time since it's becoming easier to be in contact with other cultures. Not likely. And what if you're wrong? That would leave the combined strength of all the military in the world under a few people's control. Honestly if it was up to me there would be no military... And even then, if you were a soldier and a dictator took control in your country would you support him and kill rebels and innocent civilians in his name? |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 13:39:38 GMT -5
Not likely. And what if you're wrong? That would leave the combined strength of all the military in the world under a few people's control. Or when machines become more intelligent than humans (which will happen in the near future) make a robot the leader of the world I've thought about this a lot recently. This could work... while it would have downsides too. |
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Post by Malgus on Jan 5, 2014 13:43:33 GMT -5
Not likely. And what if you're wrong? That would leave the combined strength of all the military in the world under a few people's control. Honestly if it was up to me there would be no military... And even then, if you were a soldier and a dictator took control in your country would you support him and kill rebels and innocent civilians in his name? That's the thing I don't think "I" would be given a choice. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 5, 2014 13:45:08 GMT -5
Or when machines become more intelligent than humans (which will happen in the near future) make a robot the leader of the world I've thought about this a lot recently. This could work... while it would have downsides too. Well, machines would become the dominant thing on the planet, I'm not sure if they would see any use for humans, but if they are more friendly, then coexisting with them would be very beneficial for us. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 13:58:03 GMT -5
The thing is, if this World Thing fails (Which it eventually would due to cultural differences, or a dictator coming along), what's left? There would be nothing to take its place. Nothing left of humanity. Nothing to stop the downfall. A dictator would not come to power, not a human one anyway, since a world government would take some time to implement, it's unlikely humans will rule it. In about 30-100 years, when machines surpass human intelligence, just install a robot as world leader if there is a world government, robots don't have negative human traits and don't crave power. This is the most hilarious argument I've ever read. So install a Cyber-Leader? |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:01:21 GMT -5
Not likely. And what if you're wrong? That would leave the combined strength of all the military in the world under a few people's control. Honestly if it was up to me there would be no military... And even then, if you were a soldier and a dictator took control in your country would you support him and kill rebels and innocent civilians in his name? They won't believe these civilians are innocent, they would truly believe they deserve to die as they'll think the leader of the world is god. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:04:38 GMT -5
Honestly if it was up to me there would be no military... And even then, if you were a soldier and a dictator took control in your country would you support him and kill rebels and innocent civilians in his name? They won't believe these civilians are innocent, they would truly believe they deserve to die as they'll think the leader of the world is god. And if one does happen to against Mr. King(I'm gonna call him that now), he will be killed by other soldiers in the name of Mr. King. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:04:53 GMT -5
Honestly if it was up to me there would be no military... And even then, if you were a soldier and a dictator took control in your country would you support him and kill rebels and innocent civilians in his name? They won't believe these civilians are innocent, they would truly believe they deserve to die as they'll think the leader of the world is god. Achieving that would take years of indoctrination. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:05:39 GMT -5
They won't believe these civilians are innocent, they would truly believe they deserve to die as they'll think the leader of the world is god. Achieving that would take years of indoctrination. Which they will have. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 5, 2014 14:07:35 GMT -5
A dictator would not come to power, not a human one anyway, since a world government would take some time to implement, it's unlikely humans will rule it. In about 30-100 years, when machines surpass human intelligence, just install a robot as world leader if there is a world government, robots don't have negative human traits and don't crave power. This is the most hilarious argument I've ever read. So install a Cyber-Leader? Of course. It's not like we have a choice anyway, when robots surpass human intelligence, they will automatically be superior and we won't be able to oppose anything they do. It's naive to think that robots will not reach human intelligence. It will happen and maybe that won't be such a bad thing, installing a robot leader could be the best thing that happens to humanity |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:09:42 GMT -5
Achieving that would take years of indoctrination. Which they will have. Only if enough people would support the leader. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:10:31 GMT -5
Honestly if it was up to me there would be no military... And even then, if you were a soldier and a dictator took control in your country would you support him and kill rebels and innocent civilians in his name? That's the thing I don't think "I" would be given a choice. No, but I'm sure most people in western civilization would not be willing to fight and die for a dictator. Unless they have been indoctrinated. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:14:05 GMT -5
A dictator would not come to power, not a human one anyway, since a world government would take some time to implement, it's unlikely humans will rule it. In about 30-100 years, when machines surpass human intelligence, just install a robot as world leader if there is a world government, robots don't have negative human traits and don't crave power. This is the most hilarious argument I've ever read. So install a Cyber-Leader? It is actually likely to happen. Many scientists believe technology will one day become conscious. They are our future. Humans technology is developing too fast for nature to keep up with us. Biological evolution can't keep up and will become unnecessary, survival becomes easier all the time. But we're far from perfect and eventually we'll create the next step of evolution, a sentient machine. |
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Post by Malgus on Jan 5, 2014 14:14:08 GMT -5
That's the thing I don't think "I" would be given a choice. No, but I'm sure most people in western civilization would not be willing to fight and die for a dictator. Unless they have been indoctrinated. Well if you join the military for the US, and the US joins some world power, then I think most would. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:16:58 GMT -5
By the way, a robotic leader wouldn't have to be sentient. He could just be programmed to be a perfect leader. After all, even today machines are much more intelligent then any individual human.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:17:16 GMT -5
No, but I'm sure most people in western civilization would not be willing to fight and die for a dictator. Unless they have been indoctrinated. Well if you join the military for the US, and the US joins some world power, then I think most would. Sorry, I don't understand what you mean... |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:20:30 GMT -5
I've thought about this a lot recently. This could work... while it would have downsides too. Well, machines would become the dominant thing on the planet, I'm not sure if they would see any use for humans, but if they are more friendly, then coexisting with them would be very beneficial for us. Machines will have no (survival) instincts. They will be pretty much immortal too, so I highly doubt they'd try to kill humans, at least not at first. But they might not even be able to communicate with us when they become conscious. Just like we can't communicate with plants or bacteria. We probably wouldn't even notice their conscious for a long time. |
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Post by Malgus on Jan 5, 2014 14:22:35 GMT -5
Well if you join the military for the US, and the US joins some world power, then I think most would. Sorry, I don't understand what you mean... I mean that since Nations military would be following this world power, the soldiers in those military would for the most part follow that world power to. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:29:44 GMT -5
By the way, a robotic leader wouldn't have to be sentient. He could just be programmed to be a perfect leader. After all, even today machines are much more intelligent then any individual human. A Robot Leader? |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:33:01 GMT -5
So Mr. King's army would turn on him if he were evil? Well that's a relief. Just like Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:34:51 GMT -5
And in this crazy reality, robots seem to be able to lead countries. So I'm guessing robots could also... Kill, fight, remain loyal to Mr. King. So there, no worries about magic rebellious army.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:35:51 GMT -5
Well, machines would become the dominant thing on the planet, I'm not sure if they would see any use for humans, but if they are more friendly, then coexisting with them would be very beneficial for us. Machines will have no (survival) instincts. They will be pretty much immortal too, so I highly doubt they'd try to kill humans, at least not at first. But they might not even be able to communicate with us when they become conscious. Just like we can't communicate with plants or bacteria. We probably wouldn't even notice their conscious for a long time. Glad you can see the future. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:37:31 GMT -5
So Mr. King's army would turn on him if he were evil? Well that's a relief. Just like Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot. I'm talking about a Worldwide nation based on modern western culture. There were no Hitlers, Stalins or Pol Pots in modern western countries. And yes, if the dictator will stay in power long enough with enough support he'll be able to indoctrinate people, but that would take some time. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:39:11 GMT -5
Machines will have no (survival) instincts. They will be pretty much immortal too, so I highly doubt they'd try to kill humans, at least not at first. But they might not even be able to communicate with us when they become conscious. Just like we can't communicate with plants or bacteria. We probably wouldn't even notice their conscious for a long time. Glad you can see the future. This is purely theory. But it isn't unlikely that technology will become conscious. The rest is just how I expect they'll deal with their conscious. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:39:43 GMT -5
By the way, a robotic leader wouldn't have to be sentient. He could just be programmed to be a perfect leader. After all, even today machines are much more intelligent then any individual human. A Robot Leader? Well, I'd rather have a robot leader than a human leader. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:40:30 GMT -5
Well, I'd rather have a robot leader than a human leader. There should be NO ONE LEADER. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 5, 2014 14:41:17 GMT -5
Well, I'd rather have a robot leader than a human leader. There should be NO ONE LEADER. So you are an anarchist? |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 5, 2014 14:41:45 GMT -5
And no offense, but a soulless, emotionless object making world decisions is ridiculous.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:41:52 GMT -5
And in this crazy reality, robots seem to be able to lead countries. So I'm guessing robots could also... Kill, fight, remain loyal to Mr. King. So there, no worries about magic rebellious army. I doubt robots will have a sense of loyalty. And Mr. King is a human in this case? If so yes, he'd be able to create a robot army I guess once technology is advanced enough. But it's unlikely he'd create robots with consciousness. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 5, 2014 14:43:23 GMT -5
And no offense, but a soulless, emotionless object making world decisions is ridiculous. It is by far better than emotional objects making decisions. A being without (human) emotions will not be greedy or have a lust for power and he'll be entirely driven by reason. |
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