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Post by Namialus on Jun 2, 2014 18:28:37 GMT -5
I voted Ahsoka. She's one of my favourite characters and Fives isn't. But his death was heartwrenching too, but I felt sadder for Ahsoka because I love her and her goodbye was so beautifully done. Who.... what..... how..... FIVES ISN'T ONE OF YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTERS!!!!!!!-!! How is ahsoka better than Fives?!?! I like her more... and she's just a better character. Went through a great character arc and is epic. |
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Post by Echani on Jun 2, 2014 23:34:25 GMT -5
Ashoka was unneeded and a unnecessary addition to TCW.
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Post by Newan on Jun 3, 2014 1:24:59 GMT -5
Ashoka was unneeded and a unnecessary addition to TCW. Agreed. Most of her episodes where she is the staring role are all unneeded and a lot of times are not that good either.'could have been filled with something better. Every clone episode actually has significance since clones are 5X more important and almost every episode with them has something to do with order 66 (Fives and Umbara arc to a extent) or actually has something to do with the war. Ahsoka was a useless filler character. And if I was calling the shots probably wouldn't have brought Maul back either and of course not Hevy lol. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 6:07:36 GMT -5
Ashoka was unneeded and a unnecessary addition to TCW. Lolz. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 6:08:25 GMT -5
Ashoka was unneeded and a unnecessary addition to TCW. Agreed. Most of her episodes where she is the staring role are all unneeded and a lot of times are not that good either.'could have been filled with something better. Every clone episode actually has significance since clones are 5X more important and almost every episode with them has something to do with order 66 (Fives and Umbara arc to a extent) or actually has something to do with the war. Ahsoka was a useless filler character. And if I was calling the shots probably wouldn't have brought Maul back either and of course not Hevy lol. Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 3, 2014 8:13:50 GMT -5
Agreed. Most of her episodes where she is the staring role are all unneeded and a lot of times are not that good either.'could have been filled with something better. Every clone episode actually has significance since clones are 5X more important and almost every episode with them has something to do with order 66 (Fives and Umbara arc to a extent) or actually has something to do with the war. Ahsoka was a useless filler character. And if I was calling the shots probably wouldn't have brought Maul back either and of course not Hevy lol. Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. Not really |
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Post by Echani on Jun 3, 2014 12:29:32 GMT -5
Agreed. Most of her episodes where she is the staring role are all unneeded and a lot of times are not that good either.'could have been filled with something better. Every clone episode actually has significance since clones are 5X more important and almost every episode with them has something to do with order 66 (Fives and Umbara arc to a extent) or actually has something to do with the war. Ahsoka was a useless filler character. And if I was calling the shots probably wouldn't have brought Maul back either and of course not Hevy lol. Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. What purpose aside from being Anakin's padawan does she really serve? The Clone Wars could go without her, she was unnecessary. Ashoka isn't the only one either, I mean you have Maul, Boba, The Pit Droid King thing, etc that really we're just distracting from the main problem. |
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Post by Echani on Jun 3, 2014 12:31:53 GMT -5
Agreed. Most of her episodes where she is the staring role are all unneeded and a lot of times are not that good either.'could have been filled with something better. Every clone episode actually has significance since clones are 5X more important and almost every episode with them has something to do with order 66 (Fives and Umbara arc to a extent) or actually has something to do with the war. Ahsoka was a useless filler character. And if I was calling the shots probably wouldn't have brought Maul back either and of course not Hevy lol. Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. I'd say Palpatine, since you know he shapes the entire future, and Ashoka does what that makes her so important? |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2014 12:37:20 GMT -5
Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. I'd say Palpatine, since you know he shapes the entire future, and Ashoka does what that makes her so important? Palpatine wasn't too important in the first seasons though. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 12:37:38 GMT -5
Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. I'd say Palpatine, since you know he shapes the entire future, and Ashoka does what that makes her so important? Besides star in the show and have the best character arc? |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 12:38:35 GMT -5
Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. I'd say Palpatine, since you know he shapes the entire future, and Ashoka does what that makes her so important? I'm just talking about about in the context of the show. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 12:39:29 GMT -5
Are you serious? Ahsoka is the most important character after Anakin. What purpose aside from being Anakin's padawan does she really serve? The Clone Wars could go without her, she was unnecessary. Ashoka isn't the only one either, I mean you have Maul, Boba, The Pit Droid King thing, etc that really we're just distracting from the main problem. Who would we care about then? |
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Post by Echani on Jun 3, 2014 13:49:08 GMT -5
What purpose aside from being Anakin's padawan does she really serve? The Clone Wars could go without her, she was unnecessary. Ashoka isn't the only one either, I mean you have Maul, Boba, The Pit Droid King thing, etc that really we're just distracting from the main problem. Who would we care about then? The people who shape the Clone Wars. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 13:57:09 GMT -5
Who would we care about then? The people who shape the Clone Wars. Like Sifo-Dyas and Jango Fett? I personally care more about people AFFECTED by the war. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 3, 2014 14:33:05 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Ahsoka's pointless at all, she was a very important character and she did a lot to help shape Anakin. Although you have to admit, Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars is a pretty bad idea. First, it's a time of war and not much time for actual teaching. Anakin told Ahsoka once himself it's do or die when they were planning their citadel rescue, so that sort of shows that it's a bad idea to have an apprentice during a galaxy wide war. Also, Anakin himself literally just became a jedi knight like a year before he took Ahsoka as his apprentice. Not to mention he's sort of a bad person to give a padawan too, and we all know he could only have Ahsoka as his apprentice between 2-3 years (depending on when she was first assigned to him). There just wasn't enough space for that in such a short period of time. But like I said, Ahsoka's a pretty good character.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2014 14:35:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Ahsoka's pointless at all, she was a very important character and she did a lot to help shape Anakin. Although you have to admit, Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars is a pretty bad idea. First, it's a time of war and not much time for actual teaching. Anakin told Ahsoka once himself it's do or die when they were planning their citadel rescue, so that sort of shows that it's a bad idea to have an apprentice during a galaxy wide war. Also, Anakin himself literally just became a jedi knight like a year before he took Ahsoka as his apprentice. Not to mention he's sort of a bad person to give a padawan too, and we all know he could only have Ahsoka as his apprentice between 2-3 years (depending on when she was first assigned to him). There just wasn't enough space for that in such a short period of time. But like I said, Ahsoka's a pretty good character. Obi-wan got a Padawan 20 seconds after becoming a knight. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 3, 2014 14:39:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Ahsoka's pointless at all, she was a very important character and she did a lot to help shape Anakin. Although you have to admit, Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars is a pretty bad idea. First, it's a time of war and not much time for actual teaching. Anakin told Ahsoka once himself it's do or die when they were planning their citadel rescue, so that sort of shows that it's a bad idea to have an apprentice during a galaxy wide war. Also, Anakin himself literally just became a jedi knight like a year before he took Ahsoka as his apprentice. Not to mention he's sort of a bad person to give a padawan too, and we all know he could only have Ahsoka as his apprentice between 2-3 years (depending on when she was first assigned to him). There just wasn't enough space for that in such a short period of time. But like I said, Ahsoka's a pretty good character. Obi-wan got a Padawan 20 seconds after becoming a knight. Actually he only got Anakin because Qui Gon died, otherwise he probably would have had to wait a bit longer. Plus Obi-Wan was a better apprentice than Anakin. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2014 14:41:22 GMT -5
Obi-wan got a Padawan 20 seconds after becoming a knight. Actually he only got Anakin because Qui Gon died, otherwise he probably would have had to wait a bit longer. Plus Obi-Wan was a better apprentice than Anakin. Well, I think it's pretty common for Jedi to have apprentices that shortly after becoming a knight. and Anakin was supposed to learn from training Ahsoka, so it makes sense to give him an apprentice even though he wasn't the best apprentice himself. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 3, 2014 14:45:56 GMT -5
Actually he only got Anakin because Qui Gon died, otherwise he probably would have had to wait a bit longer. Plus Obi-Wan was a better apprentice than Anakin. Well, I think it's pretty common for Jedi to have apprentices that shortly after becoming a knight. and Anakin was supposed to learn from training Ahsoka, so it makes sense to give him an apprentice even though he wasn't the best apprentice himself. It's not as much that as the problem as it is Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars in the first place. I just think it was sort of a bad idea to give him an apprentice just for the show (I'm talking about the actual producers here, not the jedi in canon). We all know Ahsoka's not there during ROTS and we all know she can only be in a timeframe of about 2 years or so, so it just seems like a really odd thing to do. They could have made Ahsoka like a friend to Anakin or something, but making her his actual apprentice just feels like a major event that's crammed into a very short amount of time. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 15:03:22 GMT -5
Well, I think it's pretty common for Jedi to have apprentices that shortly after becoming a knight. and Anakin was supposed to learn from training Ahsoka, so it makes sense to give him an apprentice even though he wasn't the best apprentice himself. It's not as much that as the problem as it is Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars in the first place. I just think it was sort of a bad idea to give him an apprentice just for the show (I'm talking about the actual producers here, not the jedi in canon). We all know Ahsoka's not there during ROTS and we all know she can only be in a timeframe of about 2 years or so, so it just seems like a really odd thing to do. They could have made Ahsoka like a friend to Anakin or something, but making her his actual apprentice just feels like a major event that's crammed into a very short amount of time. But it was done really well... |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2014 15:05:15 GMT -5
Well, I think it's pretty common for Jedi to have apprentices that shortly after becoming a knight. and Anakin was supposed to learn from training Ahsoka, so it makes sense to give him an apprentice even though he wasn't the best apprentice himself. It's not as much that as the problem as it is Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars in the first place. I just think it was sort of a bad idea to give him an apprentice just for the show (I'm talking about the actual producers here, not the jedi in canon). We all know Ahsoka's not there during ROTS and we all know she can only be in a timeframe of about 2 years or so, so it just seems like a really odd thing to do. They could have made Ahsoka like a friend to Anakin or something, but making her his actual apprentice just feels like a major event that's crammed into a very short amount of time. Well the Clone Wars itself are a major event crammed into a very short amount of time. They had to have a new main character for the show ince we already knew all other main characters were going to live until episode 3. Adding Ahsoka added more suspense to the story and making her Anakin's apprentice allowed them to let her appear very often. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 3, 2014 15:05:50 GMT -5
It's not as much that as the problem as it is Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars in the first place. I just think it was sort of a bad idea to give him an apprentice just for the show (I'm talking about the actual producers here, not the jedi in canon). We all know Ahsoka's not there during ROTS and we all know she can only be in a timeframe of about 2 years or so, so it just seems like a really odd thing to do. They could have made Ahsoka like a friend to Anakin or something, but making her his actual apprentice just feels like a major event that's crammed into a very short amount of time. But it was done really well... Still rushed though, when you think about. Anakin probably only had Ahsoka for 2 years max before she left the order. It's just trying to fit in a really large event in an amount of time that's not very large. They should have just said the Clone Wars was 5 years instead of 3. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 15:07:26 GMT -5
But it was done really well... Still rushed though, when you think about. Anakin probably only had Ahsoka for 2 years max before she left the order. It's just trying to fit in a really large event in an amount of time that's not very large. They should have just said the Clone Wars was 5 years instead of 3. Well technically no one ever said how long the war was...  |
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Post by Potato on Jun 3, 2014 15:08:17 GMT -5
It's not as much that as the problem as it is Anakin having a padawan during the Clone Wars in the first place. I just think it was sort of a bad idea to give him an apprentice just for the show (I'm talking about the actual producers here, not the jedi in canon). We all know Ahsoka's not there during ROTS and we all know she can only be in a timeframe of about 2 years or so, so it just seems like a really odd thing to do. They could have made Ahsoka like a friend to Anakin or something, but making her his actual apprentice just feels like a major event that's crammed into a very short amount of time. Well the Clone Wars itself are a major event crammed into a very short amount of time. They had to have a new main character for the show ince we already knew all other main characters were going to live until episode 3. Adding Ahsoka added more suspense to the story and making her Anakin's apprentice allowed them to let her appear very often. Which is why they should have made it a couple more years or something. But if it's already crammed, why add a bunch of other stuff? Then it's just going to get messy with so much stuff going on. Adding Ahsoka did add more suspense, but they could have had her in a different role other than being Anakin's apprentice. The problem with prequels is that they have to try not to contradict stuff that happened in the movies that came before them. Ahsoka was never mentioned in ROTS (I know they didn't know they were going to make her at the time), so it already makes it a bit awkward when you watch TCW and then ROTS. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2014 15:11:00 GMT -5
Well the Clone Wars itself are a major event crammed into a very short amount of time. They had to have a new main character for the show ince we already knew all other main characters were going to live until episode 3. Adding Ahsoka added more suspense to the story and making her Anakin's apprentice allowed them to let her appear very often. Which is why they should have made it a couple more years or something. But if it's already crammed, why add a bunch of other stuff? Then it's just going to get messy with so much stuff going on. Adding Ahsoka did add more suspense, but they could have had her in a different role other than being Anakin's apprentice. The problem with prequels is that they try not to contradict stuff that happened in the original stuff. Ahsoka was never mentioned in ROTS (I know they didn't know they were going to make her at the time), so it already makes it a bit awkward when you watch TCW and then ROTS. If Ahsoka hadn't been Anakin's apprentice they couldn't let her be in as many episodes without a proper explanation. Also, her character development would have been worse. And if you watch all of TCW you'll understand why Ahsoka wasn't mentioned in ROTS. There was no need to talk about her, it was probably a very sensitive subject for Anakin. And TCW didn't determine how long the Clone Wars lasted... maybe they planned to extended the supposed three years. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 3, 2014 15:13:37 GMT -5
Which is why they should have made it a couple more years or something. But if it's already crammed, why add a bunch of other stuff? Then it's just going to get messy with so much stuff going on. Adding Ahsoka did add more suspense, but they could have had her in a different role other than being Anakin's apprentice. The problem with prequels is that they try not to contradict stuff that happened in the original stuff. Ahsoka was never mentioned in ROTS (I know they didn't know they were going to make her at the time), so it already makes it a bit awkward when you watch TCW and then ROTS. If Ahsoka hadn't been Anakin's apprentice they couldn't let her be in as many episodes without a proper explanation. Also, her character development would have been worse. And if you watch all of TCW you'll understand why Ahsoka wasn't mentioned in ROTS. There was no need to talk about her, it was probably a very sensitive subject for Anakin. And TCW didn't determine how long the Clone Wars lasted... maybe they planned to extended the supposed three years. Just have episodes focus on her instead of Anakin, then. And it wouldn't be worse, she isn't a good character just because she's Anakin's padawan. About Ahsoka in ROTS, even if it was a sensitive subject for Anakin, it still probably would have come up eventually... (maybe when Obi-Wan was yelling at Anakin on Mustafar after he de-limbs him). |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2014 15:17:14 GMT -5
If Ahsoka hadn't been Anakin's apprentice they couldn't let her be in as many episodes without a proper explanation. Also, her character development would have been worse. And if you watch all of TCW you'll understand why Ahsoka wasn't mentioned in ROTS. There was no need to talk about her, it was probably a very sensitive subject for Anakin. And TCW didn't determine how long the Clone Wars lasted... maybe they planned to extended the supposed three years. Just have episodes focus on her instead of Anakin, then. And it wouldn't be worse, she isn't a good character just because she's Anakin's padawan. About Ahsoka in ROTS, even if it was a sensitive subject for Anakin, it still probably would have come up eventually... (maybe when Obi-Wan was yelling at Anakin on Mustafar after he de-limbs him). I think the people in ROTS had other stuff to think about... Ahsoka might have been gone for a long time at that point or maybe something else happened to her (her story in TCW wasn't finished). And being Anakin's padawan was a huge point in Ahsoka's character development, so it improved her character development. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 3, 2014 15:59:43 GMT -5
If Ahsoka hadn't been Anakin's apprentice they couldn't let her be in as many episodes without a proper explanation. Also, her character development would have been worse. And if you watch all of TCW you'll understand why Ahsoka wasn't mentioned in ROTS. There was no need to talk about her, it was probably a very sensitive subject for Anakin. And TCW didn't determine how long the Clone Wars lasted... maybe they planned to extended the supposed three years. Just have episodes focus on her instead of Anakin, then. And it wouldn't be worse, she isn't a good character just because she's Anakin's padawan. About Ahsoka in ROTS, even if it was a sensitive subject for Anakin, it still probably would have come up eventually... (maybe when Obi-Wan was yelling at Anakin on Mustafar after he de-limbs him). But then Qui-Gon would probably be in Obi-Wan's rant too. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 3, 2014 16:11:40 GMT -5
Just have episodes focus on her instead of Anakin, then. And it wouldn't be worse, she isn't a good character just because she's Anakin's padawan. About Ahsoka in ROTS, even if it was a sensitive subject for Anakin, it still probably would have come up eventually... (maybe when Obi-Wan was yelling at Anakin on Mustafar after he de-limbs him). But then Qui-Gon would probably be in Obi-Wan's rant too. I'd say Ahsoka was more important to Anakin than Qui Gon. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 3, 2014 16:13:54 GMT -5
But then Qui-Gon would probably be in Obi-Wan's rant too. I'd say Ahsoka was more important to Anakin than Qui Gon. Qui-gon was more important to Obi-wan though. |
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