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Post by Kenbo on Aug 4, 2013 18:09:29 GMT -5
I still trying to figure out my ratings on other seasons, but here are mine on Season 5. They are out of 10 (Yes, I am too generous with my ratings) Revival: 10 A War on Two Fronts: 8 Front Runners: 8.5 The Soft War: 9 Tipping Points: 9.5 The Gathering: 8.5 A Test of Strength: 9 Bound for a Rescue: 9 A Nessecary Bond: 10 Secret Weapons: 8 A Sunny Day in the Void: 7 Missing in Action: 8.5 Point of No Return: 9 Eminence: 9 Shades of Reason: 9.5 The Lawless: 8 Sabotage: 8 The Jedi Who Knew too much: 9 To Catch a Jedi: 10 The Wrong Jedi: 11
SEASON TOTAL AVERAGE: 8.9 These are the averages for the arcs: ONDERON ARC: 8.7 YOUNGLING ARC: 9.1 DROID ARC: 8.1 MAUL ARC: 9.1 AHSOKA ARC: 9.5
You thought Maul and Younglings were equal? It's an opinion.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 4, 2013 18:19:40 GMT -5
You thought Maul and Younglings were equal? It's an opinion. I got that.
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Post by Newan on Aug 4, 2013 18:32:01 GMT -5
My review for season 4: Water War: 8.5Gungan Attack: 9 (Better than I thought it would be and the Gungans where not annoying) Prisoners: 9Shadow Warrior: 8.5 (It was a great episode I actually like it more than any episode in the Mon Cala arc but the problem is I felt this episode was rushed and could have been made into a 2 parter rather than the droid episodes) Mercy Mission 4 (Worst Episode in the entire Series though the Wolf Pack was cool and gives it a bit of a higher score) Nomad Droids 6 (A interesting episode there was also some Jedi here and it actually made alot more sense than Mercy Mission though it was too childish aka also will probably be what Rebels is like) Darkness on Umbara 9.5The General 9Plan of Dissent 9.5Carnage of Krell 10Kidnapped 9Slaves of the Republic 8.5Escape from Kadavo 9A Friend in Need 8 (Too much Lux and Ahsoka but Death Watch made this episode good) Deception 9.5Friends and Enemies 9The Box 9Crisis on Naboo 8 (I loved the arc in general awesome plot but REALLY? Is this the best way too end the story? With a boring celebration and the main focus of the arc the bounty hunters being captured like nothing and a really meaning less duel with Anakin and Dooku at the end) Massacre 9.5 (YES THEY DIED ALL OF THEM DIED and Grievous was just tanking all those night sisters that jumped on him though the voodoo stuff was weird) Bounty 9.5 (Pretty cool and had good characters) Brothers 8 (Meh nothing special) Revenge 10 (Great Episode everything seemed really well done though I would have Prefered if someone major died here like Ventress or a Jedi could have went with Obi Wan like Eeth Koth) Season as a whole I think was 9.5 it was definitely my favourite season and had a mix of everything alot of cool planets and characters where introduced to the show which made for a great story.
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Post by Star on Aug 4, 2013 21:40:57 GMT -5
My review for season 4: Water War: 8.5Gungan Attack: 9 (Better than I thought it would be and the Gungans where not annoying) Prisoners: 9Shadow Warrior: 8.5 (It was a great episode I actually like it more than any episode in the Mon Cala arc but the problem is I felt this episode was rushed and could have been made into a 2 parter rather than the droid episodes) Mercy Mission 4 (Worst Episode in the entire Series though the Wolf Pack was cool and gives it a bit of a higher score) Nomad Droids 6 (A interesting episode there was also some Jedi here and it actually made alot more sense than Mercy Mission though it was too childish aka also will probably be what Rebels is like) Darkness on Umbara 9.5The General 9Plan of Dissent 9.5Carnage of Krell 10Kidnapped 9Slaves of the Republic 8.5Escape from Kadavo 9A Friend in Need 8 (Too much Lux and Ahsoka but Death Watch made this episode good) Deception 9.5Friends and Enemies 9The Box 9Crisis on Naboo 8 (I loved the arc in general awesome plot but REALLY? Is this the best way too end the story? With a boring celebration and the main focus of the arc the bounty hunters being captured like nothing and a really meaning less duel with Anakin and Dooku at the end) Massacre 9.5 (YES THEY DIED ALL OF THEM DIED and Grievous was just tanking all those night sisters that jumped on him though the voodoo stuff was weird) Bounty 9.5 (Pretty cool and had good characters) Brothers 8 (Meh nothing special) Revenge 10 (Great Episode everything seemed really well done though I would have Prefered if someone major died here like Ventress or a Jedi could have went with Obi Wan like Eeth Koth) Season as a whole I think was 9.5 it was definitely my favourite season and had a mix of everything alot of cool planets and characters where introduced to the show which made for a great story. That's a great list for season 4. Here's mine. Water War: 8Gungan Attack: 9 Prisoners: 9Shadow Warrior: 9 (I agree) Mercy Mission 5 (No question. I have it a 5 just because it was pretty different) Nomad Droids 7 (I thought it was cool how they travelled to different places) Darkness on Umbara 10 (everything was so exotic at first and the beginning was great making it a 10 for me) The General 9Plan of Dissent 9.5Carnage of Krell 10Kidnapped 10 (I really liked this episode for some reason) Slaves of the Republic 8.5Escape from Kadavo 10 (I thought this was a great conclusion) A Friend in Need 8 (You're right) Deception 10 (excellent episode. The prison and escape scenes were perfect) Friends and Enemies 9The Box 9Crisis on Naboo 8.5 (I liked the episode and the arc but it just felt rushed and not executed correctly) Massacre 10 (I loved watching Grievous and those droids kick the nightsister's a$$es and massacre them all as the title says. Bounty 9.5 Brothers 7.5 Revenge 10 Overall I'd give the season a [/b]9.5[/b] Except for two or three disappointing episodes, I thought it was perfect. It had a great variety, lots of Dooku, and the second half of it was an Obi-Wan smack down. My top 5 episodes from season 4 would probably be: 1. Deception 2. Escape from Kadavo 3. Massacre/Carnage of Krell 4. Kidnapped 5. Revenge/Darkness on Umbara That's more like 7 but I liked those 7 episodes the most out of all of them.
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Post by hevy on Aug 5, 2013 7:59:34 GMT -5
My ratings for Season 4 (out of 10) are:
Water War: 7 (Decent but not overly enjoyable) Gungan Attack: 7 (The strange middle part that is very forgettable) Prisoners: 8 (Actually the whole arc is easily forgotten) Shadow Warrior: 9 (Amazing but in need of a better ending) Mercy Mission: 7 (Enjoyable but far fetched) Nomad Droids: 8 (Great episode that works a lot better than the previous) Darkness on Umbara: 8 (Action packed and thoroughly enjoyable) The General: 7 (Rehash of last episode) Plan of Dissent: 8 (HARDCASE!!!) Carnage of Krell: 9 (Great episode with great moments for all the Clones) Kidnapped: 8 (A very fun episode) Slaves of the Republic: 6 (Not the best note to leave for a Christmas break on) Escape from Kadavpo: 9 (Another fun episode and a good conclusion to the arc) A Friend in Need: 9 (A great episode for Ahsoka and Death Watch made it all the more enjoyable) Deception: 8 (A well paced episode) Friends and Enemies: 6 (The weakest of the arc) The Box: 10 (Flawless) Crisis on Naboo: 9 (A satisfying ending) Massacre: 9 (A brutal episode with an all out battle between Droids and Nightsisters) Bounty: 10 (Great episode for Ventress) Brothers: 5 (Necessary but Boring, might not have been as bad if it had aired alongside Revenge) Revenge: 7 (Better, but not amazing. The fight scene was not interesting enough)
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Post by bobafett590 on Aug 5, 2013 12:44:46 GMT -5
Season 2 review:
Holocron Heist: 10 Cargo of Doom: 9.5 Children of the Force: 9 Senate Spy: 7.5 Landing at Point Rain: 7 Weapons Factory: 6.5 Brain Invaders: 8 Greivous Intrigue: 8 The Deserter: 8.5 Lightsaber Lost: 8 The Mandalore Plot: 9 Voyage of Temptation: 9 Duchess of Mandalore: 8.5 Senate Murders: 8 Cat and Mouse: 8 Bounty Hunters: 7 The Zilo Beast: 7 The Zillo Beast Strikes Back: 7 Death Trap: 9.5 R2 Come Home: 8 Lethal Trackdown: 10
Better than?
Season 1?
Yes.
Season 3?
In some places, yes.
Season 4?
No.
Season 5?
Yes.
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Post by Newan on Aug 5, 2013 14:07:21 GMT -5
Here's my season 3 ratings:
Clone Cadets: 8.5 (Cool Prequel to Rookies expanded on the clones) Arc Troopers 9 Supply Lines 8.5 (Had a good mix of Politics and action though it seems kinda out of place to me) Sphere of Influence 8 Corruption 8 The Academy 8 Assassin 7.5 Evil Plans 7 (Nothing Special but it expanded on Banes and Ziros story from Hostage Crisis) Hunt for Ziro 8 (Enjoyed it the battle with Vos and Kenobi vs Bane was really cool) Heroes on Both Sides 6 Pursuit of Peace 6 (I don't really remember this one I only seen it once and that was the first time it aired) Night sisters 8.5 (Season 3 started to get good here) Monster 9 Witches of the mist 9.5 Overlords 9.5 Altar of Mortis 9.5 Ghosts of Mortis 10 The Citadel 9.5 Counter Attack 10 Citadel Rescue 10 Padawan Lost 8.5 Wookiee Hunt 9
In Total I would give the season a 9 the first half was pretty weak but the second half really picked itself up and turned out to be really interesting I think my favourite arc from this would be Mortis or Citadel both where great to watch. I like the Premiere but didnt care much for the Finale.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 18:51:10 GMT -5
Well im pretty sure we have done this rating each episode of each season thing like three times but I will do it again. I hate every arc in season 5 besides maul. I am too lazy to rate each episode right now.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 5, 2013 19:26:51 GMT -5
Seasons from Best to worst in my opinion:
Season 4 Season 2 Season 5 Season 3 Season 1
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Post by Potato on Aug 5, 2013 19:40:37 GMT -5
This is what I would have done for S5:
Ep. 1- Revival (keep it the same) Eps. 2 to 5- Onderon (have the last episode be an assault on the capital or something, just don't make it have them saying that the Separatists left for no reason and the rebels won) Eps. 6 to 9- Young Jedi (make it less kidish. I know it was supposed to be a more light hearted arc, and I liked that, but they should probably have gone at least a little darker route. What if little kids see this arc and then get interested in TCW only to see Satine impaled with a darksaber in later episodes?) Eps. 10 to 11- Droid arc (only two episodes, Secret Weapons and Missing in Action. Secret Weapons was alright IMO and could have worked well even as a standalone episode. Although you probably shouldn't leave out Gregor so maybe D-Squad crashes in the second episode from the meteor shower and go straight to the town to find Gregor. And then Gregor could get more action too.) Eps. 12 to 14- Clovis (I have no idea what they would have done for Clovis but I would have liked to have seen it in S5) Eps. 15 to 17- Maul (keep it the same) Eps. 18 to 21- Ahsoka (keep it the same)
And then maybe there could be a standalone in there too so it evens out to the usual 22 episodes. Although they kind of stopped doing standalone episodes so maybe they could add another episode to the droid arc and have Gregor in it again.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 5, 2013 19:46:44 GMT -5
Seasons 2 and 4 (The best ones in my opinion) were especially successful because they had a nice balance of arc length. They 1 parters, 2 parters, 3 parters, and 4 parters. That's important. You need a good balance of parts in a story. Too many long stories causes a lack of diversity and fun. That's what happened to Season 5. We had plenty of epic, but a lot of characters were absent and we didn't get a whole lot of new settings. And while they tried to make playful episodes in the Droid arc, it was too long and we just wanted it to end. Too many short stories causes a lack of epic scale. That's what happened to Season 1. We had a lot of new places and characters, but we only had like 2 episodes where we were on the edge of our seat and it wasn't drawn out long enough to keep us there for long. Sure we had Ryloth, but it was overly predictable and we never feared for any of the characters. In Season 2, we had fun episodes like "Cat and Mouse" and "Bounty Hunters". And we also got the epic arcs like "Boba Fett", "Geonosis," and "Cad Bane". Season 4 gave of us cool 1-parters like "Shadow Warrior" and "A Friend in Need". And we still had long arcs like "Umbara" and "Deception". Season 3 also did a pretty good job of arc diversity, but it had too many "meh" episodes for it to be up there with 4 and 2. But its second half kept it from being the worst season.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 5, 2013 19:48:45 GMT -5
Seasons 2 and 4 (The best ones in my opinion) were especially successful because they had a nice balance of arc length. They 1 parters, 2 parters, 3 parters, and 4 parters. That's important. You need a good balance of parts in a story. Too many long stories causes a lack of diversity and fun. That's what happened to Season 5. We had plenty of epic, but a lot of characters were absent and we didn't get a whole lot of new settings. And while they tried to make playful episodes in the Droid arc, it was too long and we just wanted it to end. Too many short stories causes a lack of epic scale. That's what happened to Season 1. We had a lot of new places and characters, but we only had like 2 episodes where we were on the edge of our seat and it wasn't drawn out long enough to keep us there for long. Sure we had Ryloth, but it was overly predictable and we never feared for any of the characters. In Season 2, we had fun episodes like "Cat and Mouse" and "Bounty Hunters". And we also got the epic arcs like "Boba Fett", "Geonosis," and "Cad Bane". Season 4 gave of us cool 1-parters like "Shadow Warrior" and "A Friend in Need". And we still had long arcs like "Umbara" and "Deception". Season 3 also did a pretty good job of arc diversity, but it had too many "meh" episodes for it to be up there with 4 and 2. But its second half kept it from being the worst season. Well technically Cat and Mouse was part of another story line but I know what you mean
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Post by Newan on Aug 5, 2013 19:55:45 GMT -5
This is what I would have done for S5: Ep. 1- Revival (keep it the same) Eps. 2 to 5- Onderon (have the last episode be an assault on the capital or something, just don't make it have them saying that the Separatists left for no reason and the rebels won) Eps. 6 to 9- Young Jedi (make it less kidish. I know it was supposed to be a more light hearted arc, and I liked that, but they should probably have gone at least a little darker route. What if little kids see this arc and then get interested in TCW only to see Satine impaled with a darksaber in later episodes?) Eps. 10 to 11- Droid arc (only two episodes, Secret Weapons and Missing in Action. Secret Weapons was alright IMO and could have worked well even as a standalone episode. Although you probably shouldn't leave out Gregor so maybe D-Squad crashes in the second episode from the meteor shower and go straight to the town to find Gregor. And then Gregor could get more action too.) Eps. 12 to 14- Clovis (I have no idea what they would have done for Clovis but I would have liked to have seen it in S5) Eps. 15 to 17- Maul (keep it the same) Eps. 18 to 21- Ahsoka (keep it the same) And then maybe there could be a standalone in there too so it evens out to the usual 22 episodes. Although they kind of stopped doing standalone episodes so maybe they could add another episode to the droid arc and have Gregor in it again. I think a flashback episode with Gregor telling his story of his last battle before he ended up in the void would have been cool
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Post by Newan on Aug 5, 2013 20:01:08 GMT -5
Seasons from Best to worst in my opinion: Season 4 Season 2 Season 5 Season 3 Season 1 Hmm sounds about right though I'm really not sure if I can say 5 is better than 3 the only thing I found amazing in season 5 was the maul arc everything else was kinda meh or didnt really like.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 5, 2013 20:03:03 GMT -5
Seasons from Best to worst in my opinion: Season 4 Season 2 Season 5 Season 3 Season 1 Hmm sounds about right though I'm really not sure if I can say 5 is better than 3 the only thing I found amazing in season 5 was the maul arc everything else was kinda meh or didnt really like. I think you forgot Ahsoka
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Post by Newan on Aug 5, 2013 20:27:54 GMT -5
Hmm sounds about right though I'm really not sure if I can say 5 is better than 3 the only thing I found amazing in season 5 was the maul arc everything else was kinda meh or didnt really like. I think you forgot Ahsoka Honestly I think Ahsoka was focused a little too much there was in total 12 episodes that revolved around her (Younglings, Onderon and Last arc) looking back as this as our last season I would have Prefered something alot better. And too be honest Ahsoka has never been a favourite character of mine
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 20:39:44 GMT -5
I think you forgot Ahsoka Honestly I think Ahsoka was focused a little too much there was in total 12 episodes that revolved around her (Younglings, Onderon and Last arc) looking back as this as our last season I would have Prefered something alot better. And too be honest Ahsoka has never been a favourite character of mine I hate Asoka. So annoying. But I did like the arc, but I was a little disappointed.
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Post by Star on Aug 5, 2013 21:00:18 GMT -5
I think you forgot Ahsoka Honestly I think Ahsoka was focused a little too much there was in total 12 episodes that revolved around her (Younglings, Onderon and Last arc) looking back as this as our last season I would have Prefered something alot better. And too be honest Ahsoka has never been a favourite character of mine Yeah I thought there was too much Ahsoka. But I figured they tried to do it to get us more attached to her in the final arc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 21:02:25 GMT -5
Honestly I think Ahsoka was focused a little too much there was in total 12 episodes that revolved around her (Younglings, Onderon and Last arc) looking back as this as our last season I would have Prefered something alot better. And too be honest Ahsoka has never been a favourite character of mine Yeah I thought there was too much Ahsoka. But I figured they tried to do it to get us more attached to her in the final arc. I don't think they need more arcs to get us more attached to us, everyone was already attached to her. I was happy when she left because she annoyed the crap out of me.
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Post by Star on Aug 5, 2013 21:04:35 GMT -5
Yeah I thought there was too much Ahsoka. But I figured they tried to do it to get us more attached to her in the final arc. I don't think they need more arcs to get us more attached to us, everyone was already attached to her. I was happy when she left because she annoyed the crap out of me. I found Ahsoka very annoying in Season 1. Similar in Season 2. Season 3 I began to like her. Enough to even think that she might die in that last arc. I liked her in Season 4 too. And the same in Season 5.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 21:07:34 GMT -5
I don't think they need more arcs to get us more attached to us, everyone was already attached to her. I was happy when she left because she annoyed the crap out of me. I found Ahsoka very annoying in Season 1. Similar in Season 2. Season 3 I began to like her. Enough to even think that she might die in that last arc. I liked her in Season 4 too. And the same in Season 5. She annoyed me too much in the first three seasons, even though she was okay and not that annoying in the last two seasons I still cant like her for her annoying behavior in the first three seasons.
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Post by Star on Aug 5, 2013 21:08:35 GMT -5
I found Ahsoka very annoying in Season 1. Similar in Season 2. Season 3 I began to like her. Enough to even think that she might die in that last arc. I liked her in Season 4 too. And the same in Season 5. She annoyed me too much in the first three seasons, even though she was okay and not that annoying in the last two seasons I still cant like her for her annoying behavior in the first three seasons. I thought she was okay in Season 3 because of her character model update, thus making her more mature.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 5, 2013 21:12:54 GMT -5
I thought Ahsoka started getting better in "Lethal Trackdown". Her maturity was very noticeable in "Citadel Rescue". And she was totally badass in "Padawan Lost" and "Wookie Hunt"
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Post by Namialus on Aug 5, 2013 21:13:01 GMT -5
I don't like people who hate Ahsoka. For season 5: Onderon: Front Runners was pointless. A War On Two Fronts was boring. That whole arc needed fixing, it felt like a step back. Younglings: Loved it, but Bound For Rescue needed work. More Obi vs Grievous, please. Droids: Meh.... I enjoyed Gregor and that explosion though, and it was better than Onderon. Maul: Amazingly amazing. I wanted it a bit longer though. Ahsoka: So good. Sabotage was a bit boring, but it was a necessary episode because it set it all up.
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Post by Namialus on Aug 5, 2013 21:13:30 GMT -5
I thought Ahsoka started getting better in "Lethal Trackdown". Her maturity was very noticeable in "Citadel Rescue". And she was totally badass in "Padawan Lost" and "Wookie Hunt" And it showed in the Mon Cala arc. I absolutely love her.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 5, 2013 21:14:14 GMT -5
I thought Ahsoka started getting better in "Lethal Trackdown". Her maturity was very noticeable in "Citadel Rescue". And she was totally badass in "Padawan Lost" and "Wookie Hunt" And it showed in the Mon Cala arc. I absolutely love her. So I bet you liked when she and Ventress teamed up.
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Post by Namialus on Aug 5, 2013 21:15:39 GMT -5
And it showed in the Mon Cala arc. I absolutely love her. So I bet you liked when she and Ventress teamed up. LOVED IT. "Let's play!"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 21:19:49 GMT -5
She annoyed me too much in the first three seasons, even though she was okay and not that annoying in the last two seasons I still cant like her for her annoying behavior in the first three seasons. I thought she was okay in Season 3 because of her character model update, thus making her more mature. I never really paid much attention to anything in season three. I liked the supply lines and greedo ones. I never have liked season three. Even the few episodes I liked were sorta ruined in different ways. Supply lines was cool because it showed a cool jedi and went back to ryloth, but the downside is that they have to put in jar jar. Greedo episode was cool and detectivy with a bad ass old western gunfight style, but they put in a weird Asoka and blue chick escape scene. The dathamor arc was ....idk. I am kinda and still disappointed about how they made ventress a non sith assassin. Even though I like her as a bounty hunter it would've been cool to see her command the separatist a little longer. One thing I hate about arcs back then and still today is that the bad guy fails terribly. Like in the attack of kamino. FAIL so easily, they got their ass kicked by 8 year olds. Later on in the show the bad guys don't fail terribly, like maul. He kicked ass but failed in a cool and satisfying way. I feel like the bad separatist like grevious or ventress aren't feared and good enough. They kinda sucked at everything. Grevious is a total screw up, he loses in all the arcs by running away.Only if they could of made ventress a little more feared like in cloak of darkness.
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Post by Namialus on Aug 5, 2013 21:20:19 GMT -5
If only Ventress teamed up with Cad Bane. ;_;
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 5, 2013 21:22:10 GMT -5
I thought she was okay in Season 3 because of her character model update, thus making her more mature. I never really paid much attention to anything in season three. I liked the supply lines and greedo ones. I never have liked season three. Even the few episodes I liked were sorta ruined in different ways. Supply lines was cool because it showed a cool jedi and went back to ryloth, but the downside is that they have to put in jar jar. Greedo episode was cool and detectivy with a bad ass old western gunfight style, but they put in a weird Asoka and blue chick escape scene. The dathamor arc was ....idk. I am kinda and still disappointed about how they made ventress a non sith assassin. Even though I like her as a bounty hunter it would've been cool to see her command the separatist a little longer. One thing I hate about arcs back then and still today is that the bad guy fails terribly. Like in the attack of kamino. FAIL so easily, they got their ass kicked by 8 year olds. Later on in the show the bad guys don't fail terribly, like maul. He kicked ass but failed in a cool and satisfying way. I feel like the bad separatist like grevious or ventress aren't feared and good enough. They kinda sucked at everything. Grevious is a total screw up, he loses in all the arcs by running away.Only if they could of made ventress a little more feared like in cloak of darkness. What about Citadel and Mortis?
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