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Post by Kenbo on Oct 26, 2022 10:46:16 GMT -5
Actually have nothing bad to say about this. It was cool and so nice to see the prequel Jedi again. I think the prequels talked a lot about the corruption in the Republic and the Jedi council but didn't show a lot of it so the Dooku episodes and seeing his growing disdain to it all did well with that.
I've also kinda had enough of Ahsoka so I wasn't going in looking forward to her parts but I actually liked her episodes too. Just the fact that Anakin basically trained her for Order 66 is awesome. But Plo Koon really should've been included in this. Kinda strange to not have him in that first episode where it would've made so much sense.
But anyway I don't necessarily need more of this but I'll take it.
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 26, 2022 10:49:41 GMT -5
Also I literally said wtf when Yaddle talked normally instead of like Yoda lol. Tbh I think in TESB, Yoda was playing up the backwards talk and once he dropped the act, I think he started speaking more normally. But all content after that had him speaking backwards because that's what he became known for.
So now Yaddle raises the question do they not all talk like that? Or perhaps Yaddle is not even the same species as Yoda and Grogu? And then how will Grogu speak? Perhaps normally since that's what he would've been most exposed to
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 26, 2022 10:51:27 GMT -5
For ratings I'd probably give them all 8/10 except the first one which might be 6.5 or 7/10. Idk it was kinda boring and a bit unnecessary it felt like as it didn't connect to anything else. Showing Plo coming to take her in would've made it perfect.
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Post by Newan on Oct 26, 2022 22:16:32 GMT -5
Oh forgot about this lol, will watch it tomorrow or Friday when I watch the new Andor.
Going in I’m not super excited tbh just because I’m kind of done with Ahsoka for anything that’s not in the New Republic/ Mando era at this point.
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Post by Star on Oct 27, 2022 10:06:34 GMT -5
No major complaints with these shorts. The Dooku ones were definitely my favorites, especially his third one. It was very cool to see them play off the events of TPM in a way that we saw TCW do with ROTS. Each episode did a nice job of justifying Dooku's disillusionment, particularly the second episode with Windu.
I see why they did the Ahsoka ones, but it would've been cool if they chose another Jedi. Someone a bit more obscure like Vos could've been fun. Or honestly if they wanted stay close to the prequels/TCW, just give us more stuff with Sifo-Dyas, Windu, or Qui-Gon. Would have been easy to tie it into the Clone Army creation, the hypocrisy of the Jedi Order, or whatever. That approach could've also provided a cool glimpse of other Jedi like Mundi, Plo, and Tiin outside the context of TCW. Moments like Mundi leading the funeral were nice touches and something I would've enjoyed more of.
All that said, there wasn't anything bad with the Ahsoka episodes. It just felt more like Filoni wanted to fill in tiny gaps that would've been fine unfilled.
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Post by Star on Oct 27, 2022 10:08:07 GMT -5
I think 10-15 years ago, a show centered around Dooku and the Jedi in the pre-TPM era would've been awesome. In a lot of ways that sort of stuff is more interesting than what we got in TPM. Like it could've focused on Dooku, Windu, and Qui-Gon primarily from like 25 years before TPM until shortly after that film. Would have been a good way to show more of the corrupt nature of the Republic and the roots of the CIS being viewed as better than the Republic for many star systems.
But I think after TCW and given the direction of new content, we don't really need a show specifically like that. I guess the Acolyte will somewhat overlap with that pre-TPM era but it's probably better it doesn't focus on established characters we frequently saw in TCW.
Because of that, I think less was more with the Dooku shorts. They conveyed 3 distinct periods in his progression toward the Dark Side and gave him much needed development on screen that I wish the prequels would've provided. No need to drag out his descent with an entire series where we already know how it ends.
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Post by Star on Oct 27, 2022 10:16:29 GMT -5
I'm a little confused on the timeline for the second Ahsoka episode. Is it supposed to begin shortly after TCW film? It seems like it does because Ahsoka is Anakin's padawan, but Obi-Wan's hairstyle is from AOTC. Unless there's something I'm missing, it's a little bizarre they altered Obi-Wan's appearance for this.
Also of course Caleb had to be there lol but whatever. They should've added a few other padawans in the background to make it seem like this was some sort of class-wide exam that Yoda, Windu, etc were sitting in on.
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Post by Star on Oct 27, 2022 10:22:48 GMT -5
For ratings I'd probably give them all 8/10 except the first one which might be 6.5 or 7/10. Idk it was kinda boring and a bit unnecessary it felt like as it didn't connect to anything else. Showing Plo coming to take her in would've made it perfect. I expected Plo to arrive as a way of fleshing out that flashback we got from TCW. Kind of surprising they didn't go that route. I'd probably rate all Dooku episodes 8/10. For Ahsoka, her first one was like a 6/10, but the other two maybe 7/10. |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 28, 2022 10:06:04 GMT -5
I'm a little confused on the timeline for the second Ahsoka episode. Is it supposed to begin shortly after TCW film? It seems like it does because Ahsoka is Anakin's padawan, but Obi-Wan's hairstyle is from AOTC. Unless there's something I'm missing, it's a little bizarre they altered Obi-Wan's appearance for this. Also of course Caleb had to be there lol but whatever. They should've added a few other padawans in the background to make it seem like this was some sort of class-wide exam that Yoda, Windu, etc were sitting in on. Yeah it must be shortly after the movie, I think the hair was just a design choice. I think they were also trying to imply that Anakin and Ahsoka aren't really that close at that point. Obi-Wan makes a comment about her performance and Anakin says "I wouldn't know." which I thought was weird because they definitely bonded a lot in the movie. Kanan cameo is strange. I don't think he recognizes her in Rebels right? But he would've known who she was if he saw her here. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Oct 28, 2022 16:26:30 GMT -5
Only seen the Dooku ones and already I'm wondering why the hell does Bad Batch get an overkill of overlong episodes and this barely lasts like 5 minutes?  Just feel like this could have had a bit more runtime to it. Like having Dooku at least talk to Qui-Gon about Anakin for example. Also I kind of like the low key corporate culture the Council to possess here with promotions lol Really wish these were longer though. Feels like there's more to flesh out here |
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2022 23:05:33 GMT -5
I'm a little confused on the timeline for the second Ahsoka episode. Is it supposed to begin shortly after TCW film? It seems like it does because Ahsoka is Anakin's padawan, but Obi-Wan's hairstyle is from AOTC. Unless there's something I'm missing, it's a little bizarre they altered Obi-Wan's appearance for this. Also of course Caleb had to be there lol but whatever. They should've added a few other padawans in the background to make it seem like this was some sort of class-wide exam that Yoda, Windu, etc were sitting in on. Actually I think the hair thing might be a animation/ budget thing, I don’t think they could have done flowing hair like that with the animation design they had in TCW movie and early seasons. We didn’t even see Anakin looking like that till the last season. I thought the Caleb thing was just an Easter egg more then anything. He probably didn’t know her name. |
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2022 23:07:09 GMT -5
Dude that inquisitor was actually so badass looking… he reminded me of some The Old Republic Sith looking shit. I mean that’s totally how I expected the fight to go tbh, but still his design was awesome.
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2022 23:12:25 GMT -5
I liked the show overall, I’d probably rate episode 1 a 6/10. Episode 2 , 3 and 6 a 8/10. Episode 5 a 7/10. And episode 4 a 9/10. There was a lot of good world building and lore in these episodes, lots of little things that help lift the prequels. We all knew Dooku deleted Kamino but it was cool to see.
Episode 1 was really slow and I think a lot of people are abandoning this mini series because of it. I think it was a poor choice tbh, should have had the episode be with Plo-Koon. Also Yoda doesn’t speak at all in this series… I feel like if Tom Kane didn’t retire we would have seen him speak.
I kind of want an episode now where the Council investigates Yaddles disappearance… Sidious and Dooku must have had an interesting strategy to cover that one up.
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2022 23:14:27 GMT -5
I guess my biggest complaint other then episode 1 being slow is that episode 2 and 3 feel pretty much like the same plot, although I guess it makes sense for Dooku character development.
Also damn bro, I know it was technically the truth in the lore ever since AOTC but how the hell does Dooku never meet Kenobi???
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2022 23:16:32 GMT -5
If they were to make a second season of this (which I think could happen), what Jedi would you like to see? I think I’d want Qui-Gon/ Obi-Wan and Luke Skywalker (post ROTJ), battlefront 2 nailed his character so well.
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2022 23:20:43 GMT -5
Actually content between TPM and AOTC would be cool too… feel like that’s a very under explored time for 10 years. Although everyone fucking hates Kid Anakin so that might be why. But doing 3 more episodes of Dooku in that time would be doable. Could have Jango too. I’d like to see the new lore explanation for how Jango was picked for the role.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 1, 2022 7:15:36 GMT -5
I guess my biggest complaint other then episode 1 being slow is that episode 2 and 3 feel pretty much like the same plot, although I guess it makes sense for Dooku character development. Also damn bro, I know it was technically the truth in the lore ever since AOTC but how the hell does Dooku never meet Kenobi??? AOTC made me wonder this as well how Obi-Wan and Dooku didn't really know each other when they would've had like a grandfather/grandson relationship. I guess Dooku went off on his own a lot after Qui-Gon was knighted and probably became further cutoff from the Jedi after his death. I think Cere and Cordova from Fallen Order had a similar master/apprentice relationship where they weren't always together If they were to make a second season of this (which I think could happen), what Jedi would you like to see? I think I’d want Qui-Gon/ Obi-Wan and Luke Skywalker (post ROTJ), battlefront 2 nailed his character so well. There's a lot of potential if they they would only follow EU because Jedi have been present all throughout the timeline. I would love if they showed the old republic wars, more pre-TPM stuff, order 66 survivors, Luke's Jedi Praxeum with Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade, and then even after that period I believe there's another fall and resurgence of the Jedi around I think Darth Kraft and Cade Skywalker's time. But because it's lame ass Disney canon, if they do more it will just be high republic garbage and all of TLJ Luke's failures... Maybe they could show Luke after TESB but I'd be weary of them doing a post ROTJ Luke Actually content between TPM and AOTC would be cool too… feel like that’s a very under explored time for 10 years. Although everyone fucking hates Kid Anakin so that might be why. But doing 3 more episodes of Dooku in that time would be doable. Could have Jango too. I’d like to see the new lore explanation for how Jango was picked for the role. Jude Watson wrote a series of YA novels about Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's adventures which were succeeded by Obi-Wan and Anakin books and I really liked them I read them all as a kid. They fleshed out those time periods in a way I will remember fondly lol |
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Post by Newan on Nov 4, 2022 23:46:22 GMT -5
I guess my biggest complaint other then episode 1 being slow is that episode 2 and 3 feel pretty much like the same plot, although I guess it makes sense for Dooku character development. Also damn bro, I know it was technically the truth in the lore ever since AOTC but how the hell does Dooku never meet Kenobi??? AOTC made me wonder this as well how Obi-Wan and Dooku didn't really know each other when they would've had like a grandfather/grandson relationship. I guess Dooku went off on his own a lot after Qui-Gon was knighted and probably became further cutoff from the Jedi after his death. I think Cere and Cordova from Fallen Order had a similar master/apprentice relationship where they weren't always together If they were to make a second season of this (which I think could happen), what Jedi would you like to see? I think I’d want Qui-Gon/ Obi-Wan and Luke Skywalker (post ROTJ), battlefront 2 nailed his character so well. There's a lot of potential if they they would only follow EU because Jedi have been present all throughout the timeline. I would love if they showed the old republic wars, more pre-TPM stuff, order 66 survivors, Luke's Jedi Praxeum with Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade, and then even after that period I believe there's another fall and resurgence of the Jedi around I think Darth Kraft and Cade Skywalker's time. But because it's lame ass Disney canon, if they do more it will just be high republic garbage and all of TLJ Luke's failures... Maybe they could show Luke after TESB but I'd be weary of them doing a post ROTJ Luke Actually content between TPM and AOTC would be cool too… feel like that’s a very under explored time for 10 years. Although everyone fucking hates Kid Anakin so that might be why. But doing 3 more episodes of Dooku in that time would be doable. Could have Jango too. I’d like to see the new lore explanation for how Jango was picked for the role. Jude Watson wrote a series of YA novels about Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's adventures which were succeeded by Obi-Wan and Anakin books and I really liked them I read them all as a kid. They fleshed out those time periods in a way I will remember fondly lol Idk bro, like Anakin, Ahsoka and Kenobi were always together. I just can’t picture a reality where Dooku and Kenobi don’t meet. Especially with how skeptical Dooku, Qui-Gon and Sifo Dyas was of the council, you would think those 3 (by extension Kenobi as well) would have been working a lot together. I don’t think we will get any EU content sadly… if we did I’d want to see Revan and Malak but it’s not gonna happen. The Darth Kryat comics were awesome though. I wish we could see something like that adapted. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 4, 2022 23:47:48 GMT -5
I just kind of want to see some OT characters in animation tbh. Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie, Lando. Doesn’t need to be a series but some shorts like these would be cool imo. I think the only animated content Luke and Han have appeared in is Robot Chicken and Family Guy tbh…
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Post by Newan on Nov 4, 2022 23:55:22 GMT -5
My proposition for a season 2 would be Tales of the Sith.
Episode 1: Sidious takes Maul as a baby (Get to see Nightsisters and Talzin)
Episode 2: Sidious and Plageuis do the ritual which conceived Anakin (Plageuis novel)
Episode 3: Sidious reveals himself to Dooku, Kills Plageuis in same episode
Episode 4: Dooku selects Jango to be the Clone Template (give it cool spin, maybe use the Bounty Hunter game as reference where Dooku held a competition)
Episode 5: Takes place after Episode 4 of Tales of the Jedi, We see the council investigation into Yaddles disappearance and how/ why/ exactly when Dooku leaves the order or is exiled. Dooku also gets his Darth name here.
Episode 6: Dooku meets Ventress and takes her on as an apprentice
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Post by Star on Apr 4, 2024 12:31:10 GMT -5
Wow, this looks very promising. Did not expect them to go an Empire route, I thought we'd get Sith or more Jedi content from prequel/High Republic era.
If reception stays position, I could see future installments exploring bounty hunters, rebels, politicians, etc.
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Post by Star on Apr 4, 2024 12:37:35 GMT -5
Barriss and Elsbeth are interesting choices that I think could work well. Also exciting to see Grievous, Thrawn, Vader, and Grand Inquisitor included. I'm sure we'll get to see some other established characters too, such as other Inquisitors.
It looks like we're getting new POVs or snippets from The Wrong Jedi and Massacre.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 10, 2024 16:36:10 GMT -5
Curious where Bariss goes, though I'm not too fussed about the rest. Feels like they could've been a little bolder with the choices
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Just feel like this could have had a bit more runtime to it. Like having Dooku at least talk to Qui-Gon about Anakin for example. Also I kind of like the low key corporate culture the Council to possess here with promotions lol Really wish these were longer though. Feels like there's more to flesh out here
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