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Post by Kenbo on Dec 4, 2020 10:02:14 GMT -5
Looks like it's all coming together. Thank goodness Boba returned. And looks like he'll even be sticking around for a bit. However I have to say I didn't really like this episode that much... Tython looked kinda lame honestly. It looked like if some fan film people just went out into the desert to film something.
Also Boba... I just feel like they could've done something more interesting with him. He just shows up and says he'll help Mando in exchange for his armor. I was expecting something cooler. And also some more badass scenes. How was Cobb Vanth wearing Boba's armor more badass than Boba himself? Lol. Also how does his jetpack have infinite rockets lmao. But yeah they still didn't answer what he was doing on Tatooine. And it sounded like he knew about Cobb so what was he waiting for? Really hope they tell us. They could be taking it slow. This is the first time Boba's being used as a character rather than a background prop in live action so it may take time to flesh him out
Anyway everything that happened was pretty predictable however I didn't think they'd make it to Tython so soon. But they will for sure return at the end and there will be a cliffhanger with the Jedi who comes to get him.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 4, 2020 10:04:09 GMT -5
One thing I didn't like was those Imperial transports. They are clearly predecessors to the First Order ones. I hate the First Order so much bruh...
Also fuck looks like the Bill Burr rumors were true. I hate Mayfeld too I didn't want to see him again. Why would Mando even ask him for help?
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 4, 2020 10:36:03 GMT -5
I think sometimes we feel like they drag things out but this is one instance where I wish they took their time. I wouldn't have minded if this episode was a side quest that helped flesh out Boba better. Also the Tython stuff happened so fast. I thought they'd have to spend some time looking for the seeing stone but they find it immediately
Also I really wish they'd give Gideon more to do. They're just wasting Giancarlo. He's supposed to be the main villain but we know nothing about his character or his motivations
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Post by Star on Dec 4, 2020 13:59:07 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this episode. It's bringing things together and in a satisfying way. I wish the episode had been longer, but they did a great job managing to fit in everything. The confirmation of Dark Troopers was cool, and I'm also surprised they destroyed the Razorcrest. I loved seeing Boba in action with his armor, but honestly, his combat with the staff was more terrifying. Some plot points are vague still (like the extent of Gideon's goals and Boba's story), but I'm confident that we'll get answers to most of it eventually.
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Post by Star on Dec 4, 2020 14:09:05 GMT -5
Boba also proved that Jango was a foundling, not a common bounty hunter who stole the armor. This goes against what Almec told Kenobi in TCW S2 Mandalore arc. I'm not sure if this was always meant to be the case, but I think it's a cool touch.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 4, 2020 14:13:44 GMT -5
Boba also proved that Jango was a foundling, not a common bounty hunter who stole the armor. This goes against what Almec told Kenobi in TCW S2 Mandalore arc. I'm not sure if this was always meant to be the case, but I think it's a cool touch. George said they weren’t Mandalorian but it seems to have been retconned now. I’m glad because that makes no sense what George said. Boba literally started all the Mandalorian lore how you gonna take away the title from him lol |
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Post by Star on Dec 4, 2020 14:17:13 GMT -5
One thing I didn't like was those Imperial transports. They are clearly predecessors to the First Order ones. I hate the First Order so much bruh... Also fuck looks like the Bill Burr rumors were true. I hate Mayfeld too I didn't want to see him again. Why would Mando even ask him for help? It looks like this show will do a lot of explaining for the formation of the First Order. Thrawn will almost certainty have a big role to play. We already see his influence with the Defender TIE Fighter from Rebels being an inspiration for other First Order spacecraft like the TIE Silencer and TIE special forces fighter. I'm not a fan of the First Order based on what the movies gave us, but there's a chance this series could make their rise to power much more compelling. |
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Post by Star on Dec 4, 2020 14:20:29 GMT -5
Boba also proved that Jango was a foundling, not a common bounty hunter who stole the armor. This goes against what Almec told Kenobi in TCW S2 Mandalore arc. I'm not sure if this was always meant to be the case, but I think it's a cool touch. George said they weren’t Mandalorian but it seems to have been retconned now. I’m glad because that makes no sense what George said. Boba literally started all the Mandalorian lore how you gonna take away the title from him lol I agree, it makes more sense in-universe. It's also a cooler concept knowing that a Mandalorian foundling was the clone template, raised Boba Fett, and was arguably the best bounty hunter in the galaxy while he was alive. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 4, 2020 14:30:48 GMT -5
I watched it again and kinda liked it more but it’s mainly because of Boba. The rest of the writing is kinda weird tbh. If Boba is only there to peacefully negotiate, why have the sniper on Grogu? Mando seriously forgot his jetpack? Slave I and Boba Friend are conveniently there to give Mando a ride after the Crest gets destroyed? Why don’t the Imperials destroy Slave I he got so close to them as well. His beskar is too much plot armor and they keep making the Stormtroopers look bad. Really though according to last season, there is a range at which beskar is effective. How does Mando find that one little knob in all that wreckage it’s like a needle in a haystack. Dark troopers should’ve gotten more exposition but maybe we’ll get that later. I didn’t think they’d be used so soon honestly.
I guess it’s a lot of nitpicks but like this episode didn’t have that much. I don’t want to just ignore things because Boba showed up who is kind of fan service-y anyway. And his presence still left many questions unanswered. While his performance might make up for some things and make me look the other way, Tython’s visuals bring it all back down again... Did they blow their budget lol. It doesn’t look very impressive or Star Wars-y at all. Yeah idk something is just off about this episode... I mean I probably like it more than I dislike it but at the same time some things don’t feel right however it’s hard to pinpoint. I guess overall it just feels a bit ameteurish. Like serious fan film vibes in lots of aspects
It’s probably a 7/10 right now but I think I will wait until the season is over to give all the episodes a rating
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 4, 2020 14:45:39 GMT -5
Okay, first thing's first. They need to sort out their runtimes and get this consistent. It's just stupid how short and long episodes can be. I can tell this one would have been helped by a longer runtime to give these events to breath and bring some explanation and understanding of motivations.
Also, it's as I thought, from the moment Boba's on the scene I just wonder why the hell LucasFilm didn't tell Jon with his idea for the show "Sounds great, but one thing: change Din to Boba". He's more charismatic, he's infinitely more marketable and frankly it's kinda sad how much he overshadows Din here. As me and my brother thought, Temeura kills it in this and frankly he better be a new main, or at least get that rumoured Fett spin off.
I must say though Typhon has me all kinds of disappointed. It's not the beautiful, mountainous, forested, Switzerland type world the EU made it out to be and from the sounds of it it no longer has the distinction of being a deep core world that's infamously hard to get to. Taking all that away loses its mysticism and what we get just feels lazy.
Also, I get the strong feeling Gideon's just working with or under Thrawn. It feels increasingly likely.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 4, 2020 14:47:01 GMT -5
I'm just really thankful they made Boba quite honourable. Feels like the sarlacc made him do some soul searching.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 4, 2020 14:48:10 GMT -5
I watched it again and kinda liked it more but it’s mainly because of Boba. The rest of the writing is kinda weird tbh. If Boba is only there to peacefully negotiate, why have the sniper on Grogu? Mando seriously forgot his jetpack? Slave I and Boba Friend are conveniently there to give Mando a ride after the Crest gets destroyed? Why don’t the Imperials destroy Slave I he got so close to them as well. His beskar is too much plot armor and they keep making the Stormtroopers look bad. Really though according to last season, there is a range at which beskar is effective. How does Mando find that one little knob in all that wreckage it’s like a needle in a haystack. Dark troopers should’ve gotten more exposition but maybe we’ll get that later. I didn’t think they’d be used so soon honestly. I guess it’s a lot of nitpicks but like this episode didn’t have that much. I don’t want to just ignore things because Boba showed up who is kind of fan service-y anyway. And his presence still left many questions unanswered. While his performance might make up for some things and make me look the other way, Tython’s visuals bring it all back down again... Did they blow their budget lol. It doesn’t look very impressive or Star Wars-y at all. Yeah idk something is just off about this episode... I mean I probably like it more than I dislike it but at the same time some things don’t feel right however it’s hard to pinpoint. I guess overall it just feels a bit ameteurish. Like serious fan film vibes in lots of aspects It’s probably a 7/10 right now but I think I will wait until the season is over to give all the episodes a rating I should say it was directed by Robert Rodriguez in his first time directing an episode, so that might have a bearing on it. I did notice he directs action a lot better than previous episodes have though. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 4, 2020 18:18:51 GMT -5
It is kind of odd that Boba is supposed to be 41 in this episode... He is younger than Bo-Katan and Ahsoka... but he doesn't look like it. The actor is in his 60s...
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Post by Pinda on Dec 4, 2020 18:22:21 GMT -5
Okay, first thing's first. They need to sort out their runtimes and get this consistent. It's just stupid how short and long episodes can be. I can tell this one would have been helped by a longer runtime to give these events to breath and bring some explanation and understanding of motivations. Also, it's as I thought, from the moment Boba's on the scene I just wonder why the hell LucasFilm didn't tell Jon with his idea for the show "Sounds great, but one thing: change Din to Boba". He's more charismatic, he's infinitely more marketable and frankly it's kinda sad how much he overshadows Din here. As me and my brother thought, Temeura kills it in this and frankly he better be a new main, or at least get that rumoured Fett spin off. I must say though Typhon has me all kinds of disappointed. It's not the beautiful, mountainous, forested, Switzerland type world the EU made it out to be and from the sounds of it it no longer has the distinction of being a deep core world that's infamously hard to get to. Taking all that away loses its mysticism and what we get just feels lazy. Also, I get the strong feeling Gideon's just working with or under Thrawn. It feels increasingly likely. I don't think they will do Thrawn in this series. The show with the "female-protagonist" will probably focus on Ahsoka and her search for Thrawn. There is no way they aren't doing an Ahsoka-centric live action show after last week. Makes more sense to save Thrawn for that. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 4, 2020 18:23:50 GMT -5
I have to say, this season is an improvement over the last. But there are still so many stupid plotpoints and weird writing decisions...
At this point I can say it beats the Sequels though... probably Rebels too in term of enjoyment. Because no matter how stupid it gets at least it looks nice.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 4, 2020 20:22:52 GMT -5
WAIT. The holiday special rifle is gone now  The more I think about it nothing about Boba really makes sense. He has his ship. Doesn't he have better clothes and weapons on it? Why is he still wearing his tattered hobo robes and carrying around Tusken weapons? Unless he retrieved his ship just before this.. Doubt it though. And he found Fennec a while back right? So where was she when Boba was being a hermit? Also if I'm honest, this episode would've been trash if it didn't have Boba. I think he's the only reason people like it so much. Imagine he and Slave I was replaced with some rando hunter and ship. Trash lol. Imagine if it was Bill Burr instead lmfao..... |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 5, 2020 5:58:00 GMT -5
WAIT. The holiday special rifle is gone now The more I think about it nothing about Boba really makes sense. He has his ship. Doesn't he have better clothes and weapons on it? Why is he still wearing his tattered hobo robes and carrying around Tusken weapons? Unless he retrieved his ship just before this.. Doubt it though. And he found Fennec a while back right? So where was she when Boba was being a hermit? Also if I'm honest, this episode would've been trash if it didn't have Boba. I think he's the only reason people like it so much. Imagine he and Slave I was replaced with some rando hunter and ship. Trash lol. Imagine if it was Bill Burr instead lmfao..... This is exactly why it needed more runtime to explain this. Hell, it would've been good to have an episode focused on Boba and how he got to this point. This show could really use a little "show don't tell", or even just tell. Either one really, just enough to stop TVSins from having a field trip  |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 7, 2020 20:42:43 GMT -5
The next episode is the one right before Disney's Investor Day. I feel like we're gonna get some shit that weekend. My first thought was that episode is going to be crazy packed which it could be given it's the penultimate episode of the season. But if it's just going to be about breaking out Mayfeld, I'm not sure that's really enough to create the hype they want to see... Unless they're going to be rounding up a team to save Grogu which will have some big names on it. Bo-Katan is for sure coming back, possibly Ahsoka. But what if there's new people like Sabine or something? Idk
There's speculation the teaser for the Boba show will also drop then. But I think something for Bad Batch is more likely. But maybe we'll get both... There's also some talk of Kevin Feige coming in to help which may be the beginning of the Marvelization of Star Wars. I think it's quite possible for an MCU style Filoniverse where Thrawn is the big bad.
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Post by Star on Dec 8, 2020 20:16:40 GMT -5
The next episode is the one right before Disney's Investor Day. I feel like we're gonna get some shit that weekend. My first thought was that episode is going to be crazy packed which it could be given it's the penultimate episode of the season. But if it's just going to be about breaking out Mayfeld, I'm not sure that's really enough to create the hype they want to see... Unless they're going to be rounding up a team to save Grogu which will have some big names on it. Bo-Katan is for sure coming back, possibly Ahsoka. But what if there's new people like Sabine or something? Idk There's speculation the teaser for the Boba show will also drop then. But I think something for Bad Batch is more likely. But maybe we'll get both... There's also some talk of Kevin Feige coming in to help which may be the beginning of the Marvelization of Star Wars. I think it's quite possible for an MCU style Filoniverse where Thrawn is the big bad. lol Thrawn will be the next Thanos. I'm expecting a lot of setup for the next episode, especially since the last one was almost entirely action. I'd be fine if that's not the case, but hopefully there's more to it than another prison break. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 9, 2020 5:29:25 GMT -5
The next episode is the one right before Disney's Investor Day. I feel like we're gonna get some shit that weekend. My first thought was that episode is going to be crazy packed which it could be given it's the penultimate episode of the season. But if it's just going to be about breaking out Mayfeld, I'm not sure that's really enough to create the hype they want to see... Unless they're going to be rounding up a team to save Grogu which will have some big names on it. Bo-Katan is for sure coming back, possibly Ahsoka. But what if there's new people like Sabine or something? Idk There's speculation the teaser for the Boba show will also drop then. But I think something for Bad Batch is more likely. But maybe we'll get both... There's also some talk of Kevin Feige coming in to help which may be the beginning of the Marvelization of Star Wars. I think it's quite possible for an MCU style Filoniverse where Thrawn is the big bad. lol Thrawn will be the next Thanos. I'm expecting a lot of setup for the next episode, especially since the last one was almost entirely action. I'd be fine if that's not the case, but hopefully there's more to it than another prison break. Meh, I suspect any prison break will be in the opening and nothing more. Saves massively on time that way. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 10, 2020 15:15:33 GMT -5
Apparently the script was only 19 pages (which equals 19 minutes) and they brought in Robert Rodriguez to fill it out with action scenes... Lol. Come on couldn't they have beefed this episode up with some more substance? Going to Tython, introducing Boba Fett, having Grogu get captured is only 19 pages? How is playing with spiders twice that? Feels like they really phoned it in.
I think I also heard something happened to Favreau so he couldn't direct it but would that have an effect on the script? I'd think that would be finished some time beforehand.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 10, 2020 16:47:14 GMT -5
Apparently the script was only 19 pages (which equals 19 minutes) and they brought in Robert Rodriguez to fill it out with action scenes... Lol. Come on couldn't they have beefed this episode up with some more substance? Going to Tython, introducing Boba Fett, having Grogu get captured is only 19 pages? How is playing with spiders twice that? Feels like they really phoned it in. I think I also heard something happened to Favreau so he couldn't direct it but would that have an effect on the script? I'd think that would be finished some time beforehand. Jesus, that's some poor professionalism. You'd think Favreau would have learnt his lessons after the Iron Man production (script was being wirtten as they filmed- Jeff Bridges called it a "200 million student film") after all these years, but apparently not. Maybe they should, y'know, expand the writing staff a little? |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 10, 2020 17:11:29 GMT -5
People are theorising Boba kicks it and Din takes Slave 1. If that is the case, then Disney has learnt nothing from the ST's mistakes and are just repeating them. I don't really think we'll come to that, but I wouldn't put it past them to pull that kind of dumbass move...
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 10, 2020 17:17:26 GMT -5
People are theorising Boba kicks it and Din takes Slave 1. If that is the case, then Disney has learnt nothing from the ST's mistakes and are just repeating them. I don't really think we'll come to that, but I wouldn't put it past them to pull that kind of dumbass move... Not really a fan of new characters hijacking old one's stuff. It'd be like Rey taking the Falcon... Also Boba dying here and then him getting a prequel show would be kinda lame because we know what happens to him. I mean I know the PT and TCW is that same situation but still they shouldn't do that too much |
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Post by Newan on Dec 13, 2020 23:07:10 GMT -5
They went the old EU route with Jango so that’s awesome tbh, fuck whatever TCW was trying to do with him. I’m glad they mentioned the civil war and what not.
Honestly maybe my second favorite episode of the season after the premiere. I really liked Boba in this one, super badass
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