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Post by Kenbo on Nov 13, 2020 9:28:29 GMT -5
Wow this one had a lot of stuff. But I thought it was good. Too bad they're getting shorter in length though. I'm glad they cleared up the helmet rule. That was my head canon for a while, that the more devout Mandos followed the rule while others didn't really care. Glad it was confirmed
Bo-Katan's action sequences were fucking awesome... It does feel like these characters overshadow Din though like first Cobb now her. Oh well. Really glad to see more imperial stuff as well as Gideon. I was worried about him having barely having a role again like last season. And darksaber and Ahsoka bruh.... We're getting closer boys. I think shit is going to go down this season
So I guess Sasha Banks wasn't Sabine. I wonder if Sabine will be in the show though perhaps with Ahsoka. I'm predicting a couple more side quests before we get to Ahsoka though. I just hope it's actually significant stuff like something with Gideon instead of more monster of the week episodes. But imagine if he meets Ahsoka and she sends him to Luke in the finale broooo...
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 13, 2020 9:31:59 GMT -5
I was worried about the season being a cameo fest and like in a way it kinda is. Boba, Cobb, Bo-Katan already and we're only three episodes in. But I think it's not that bad. Boba and Cobb make perfect sense to me. Bo-Katan was a bit contrived and convenient. But at least it's important because she actually furthers the Jedi storyline. So it kind of makes the galaxy feel small but it's no where near as bad as Rebels yet.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 13, 2020 9:39:05 GMT -5
I am surprised by the Imperial presence though. A fully manned Gozanti cruiser was more than I'd expect them to have at this time. And apparently there's a fleet as well? What? Praying it's not related to the first order and it's just Gideon who has a few ships. I think there were some first order crates on the Gozanti cruiser in this episode though.... Wtf
Titus Welliver as the officer was a cool guest star. That electro suicide thing was a nice touch obvious nod to Nazi's cyanide teeth. Yeah I'm just gonna say it this show is great. Any disappointment I had is mostly gone now because I've come to appreciate it for what it is. And visually it just looks so good. I think it has some of the best sequences in all of Star Wars tbh. Din vs Gideon's TIE last season, Bo-Katan saving Din on the barge in this episode, and basically the entirety of the Cobb episode are some of my favorite moments
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 13, 2020 13:11:34 GMT -5
Well, it was a vast improvement, in that we're finally getting the plot happen, let alone thicken  I will say though, seeing Bo overshadow Din like this makes me seriously think he's going to get completely eclipsed by Ahsoka and Boba join in. I also really appreciate we're trading runtime for more development. It does feel like we're out of the filler woods and into something more significant. One detail I especially loved was basically saying Din's part of the catholic hillbillys of Mandalorians Glad they finally clear up why he's so clueless about everything. Although that still doesn't excuse Cara with being in the dark on this stuff |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 13, 2020 13:17:26 GMT -5
I will say though I think they need to stop going with the whole "help me with this quest, so I help you with your quest" formula. A lot of people have been saying it and frankly I'm in agreement. This is the third time in a row they've pulled this and really that's just lazy.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 13, 2020 14:24:23 GMT -5
I will say though I think they need to stop going with the whole "help me with this quest, so I help you with your quest" formula. A lot of people have been saying it and frankly I'm in agreement. This is the third time in a row they've pulled this and really that's just lazy. It really follows a video game like formula there's even rewards at the ends of quests like armor or the dragon meat and the pearl and whatnot. From one point of view it is lazy, but from another it's kind of clever. I feel like this show is so cliche that it becomes unique lol. Like I don't think there's a lot of stuff out there that purposefully hits all these tropes hard and makes them super obvious |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 13, 2020 14:33:48 GMT -5
I will say though I think they need to stop going with the whole "help me with this quest, so I help you with your quest" formula. A lot of people have been saying it and frankly I'm in agreement. This is the third time in a row they've pulled this and really that's just lazy. It really follows a video game like formula there's even rewards at the ends of quests like armor or the dragon meat and the pearl and whatnot. From one point of view it is lazy, but from another it's kind of clever. I feel like this show is so cliche that it becomes unique lol. Like I don't think there's a lot of stuff out there that purposefully hits all these tropes hard and makes them super obvious True, though I will say if this were a video game, they're the kind of side quests players would get behind That said though, I do want them to expand their range of progressing the story. I'd also really appreciate it if they gave Din at least a little character. The guy doesn't even change his tone of voice. He just looks tough and acts tough, end of. A little charisma can go a long way, especially if you want to avoid the risk of your main character getting utterly overshadowed by every guest star he says hi to |
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 13, 2020 14:34:00 GMT -5
So rest of the season predictions:
Next episode is going to be on Nevarro. Cara and Greef might ask Mando for help against the Imperials. Maybe Gideon is back and is trying to lure Mando back to Nevarro? I do hope the Moff is utilized and it's not another filler that does little to progress things
I've heard Ahsoka is in episode 5 but not sure if it's true. If not, perhaps Boba tracks Din down. It's possible that Mando's speeder getting destroyed causing him to walk to town in the Passenger gave Boba the opportunity to catch up to him. Really hope we get some Boba pay off I will be pissed if they're just teasing his spin off or something.
Endgame has to be Bo-Katan vs Gideon fighting for the Darksaber. Ahsoka could be there too so we get an actual duel. I think Giancarlo Esposito has said he's broken a couple Darksaber props or something. Not sure if baby Yoda will be written off though. I might prefer that but most likely they will keep milking him and have him stick with Mando. Ahsoka could pull some bull shit like "I'm not a Jedi" and refuse to take him in
I'd love season 3 being about reclaiming Mandalore. Feel like this episode was foreshadowing that. Maybe Bo-Katan vs Boba for who gets the title of Mandalore? Man theorizing about this stuff is fun. Maybe weekly format is good. It feels like we're back in the good old days.....
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 13, 2020 16:34:33 GMT -5
So rest of the season predictions: Next episode is going to be on Nevarro. Cara and Greef might ask Mando for help against the Imperials. Maybe Gideon is back and is trying to lure Mando back to Nevarro? I do hope the Moff is utilized and it's not another filler that does little to progress things I've heard Ahsoka is in episode 5 but not sure if it's true. If not, perhaps Boba tracks Din down. It's possible that Mando's speeder getting destroyed causing him to walk to town in the Passenger gave Boba the opportunity to catch up to him. Really hope we get some Boba pay off I will be pissed if they're just teasing his spin off or something. Endgame has to be Bo-Katan vs Gideon fighting for the Darksaber. Ahsoka could be there too so we get an actual duel. I think Giancarlo Esposito has said he's broken a couple Darksaber props or something. Not sure if baby Yoda will be written off though. I might prefer that but most likely they will keep milking him and have him stick with Mando. Ahsoka could pull some bull shit like "I'm not a Jedi" and refuse to take him in I'd love season 3 being about reclaiming Mandalore. Feel like this episode was foreshadowing that. Maybe Bo-Katan vs Boba for who gets the title of Mandalore? Man theorizing about this stuff is fun. Maybe weekly format is good. It feels like we're back in the good old days..... I would love it if one episode just details about Boba's survival, what's he's done over these years and then leads on from his episode 1 appearance to him tracking down Din. Still have no idea if he'll be a villain, a hero, or something of a neutral, heroic figure like he's seen as in the EU (which is my preference really). I'd also love to see the scope get bigger with Mandalore getting retaken. That just opens the door for things to get a little more Game of Thrones |
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 13, 2020 18:02:56 GMT -5
So rest of the season predictions: Next episode is going to be on Nevarro. Cara and Greef might ask Mando for help against the Imperials. Maybe Gideon is back and is trying to lure Mando back to Nevarro? I do hope the Moff is utilized and it's not another filler that does little to progress things I've heard Ahsoka is in episode 5 but not sure if it's true. If not, perhaps Boba tracks Din down. It's possible that Mando's speeder getting destroyed causing him to walk to town in the Passenger gave Boba the opportunity to catch up to him. Really hope we get some Boba pay off I will be pissed if they're just teasing his spin off or something. Endgame has to be Bo-Katan vs Gideon fighting for the Darksaber. Ahsoka could be there too so we get an actual duel. I think Giancarlo Esposito has said he's broken a couple Darksaber props or something. Not sure if baby Yoda will be written off though. I might prefer that but most likely they will keep milking him and have him stick with Mando. Ahsoka could pull some bull shit like "I'm not a Jedi" and refuse to take him in I'd love season 3 being about reclaiming Mandalore. Feel like this episode was foreshadowing that. Maybe Bo-Katan vs Boba for who gets the title of Mandalore? Man theorizing about this stuff is fun. Maybe weekly format is good. It feels like we're back in the good old days..... I would love it if one episode just details about Boba's survival, what's he's done over these years and then leads on from his episode 1 appearance to him tracking down Din. Still have no idea if he'll be a villain, a hero, or something of a neutral, heroic figure like he's seen as in the EU (which is my preference really). I'd also love to see the scope get bigger with Mandalore getting retaken. That just opens the door for things to get a little more Game of Thrones Cobb got a sweet flashback back story, Boba deserves the same. Anyway I'm thinking regardless of what Jango/Boba's status was previously, this show will make Boba a Mandalorian because he follows the creed. I think he may also follow the helmet rule which would explain why he never went back for his armor. As Din said last season, once it comes off, you can't put it back on |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 15, 2020 17:34:04 GMT -5
I would love it if one episode just details about Boba's survival, what's he's done over these years and then leads on from his episode 1 appearance to him tracking down Din. Still have no idea if he'll be a villain, a hero, or something of a neutral, heroic figure like he's seen as in the EU (which is my preference really). I'd also love to see the scope get bigger with Mandalore getting retaken. That just opens the door for things to get a little more Game of Thrones Cobb got a sweet flashback back story, Boba deserves the same. Anyway I'm thinking regardless of what Jango/Boba's status was previously, this show will make Boba a Mandalorian because he follows the creed. I think he may also follow the helmet rule which would explain why he never went back for his armor. As Din said last season, once it comes off, you can't put it back on If that's the case, then I wonder why Boba would follow it when his pops didn't follow the creed? |
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 16, 2020 20:11:28 GMT -5
 Well I guess aran sweaters are canon now |
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Post by Star on Nov 16, 2020 23:26:21 GMT -5
Even though this was a short episode, it really packed a lot into it. Loved seeing Bo-Katan and Moff Gideon. It definitely looks like we'll have a few really great episodes later this season based on things set up here.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 19, 2020 15:37:17 GMT -5
So I watched this when I had some time to kill.
I like seeing a TCW character in live action, and Ahsoka's upcoming appearance is definitely something I look forward to. But other than that the plot of this show is so bland. The Mandalorian is barely a character, Bo-Katan is much more interesting. Other recurring characters (like the lady on Tatooine) are kind of annoying. And the show just has too much filler. You cannot afford to have more than half of your episodes feel like filler when it only has 8 episodes a season. We don't need to spend an entire episode on the ice planet with the frog lady. We don't need another episode to drag out the journey to Ahsoka (because that seems to be the case here).
Also the writing in general seems terrible. Bo saves the Mandalorian twice from the same guys in like 5 minutes. Why? Why not just stick with one incredibly convenient rescue?
I don't know, these live action shows have the potential to be good... but they just aren't.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 19, 2020 15:40:42 GMT -5
I also don't like how the Mandalorian calls the frog-alien a frog. This is Star Wars, there are no frogs.
The one thing I do appreciate about this show is that they seem to give more nuanced views of the Republic/Rebels and Tusken Raiders. The Tuskens aren't just evil, they are people too. And the Republic/Rebels left the galaxy in quite mess. Defeating an Empire can have negative consequences as well, creating lawlessness in its periphery. It is what happened in the Middle-East for example. So I like that they showed that here as well, especially in the Tatooine episode.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 19, 2020 17:32:25 GMT -5
So I watched this when I had some time to kill. I like seeing a TCW character in live action, and Ahsoka's upcoming appearance is definitely something I look forward to. But other than that the plot of this show is so bland. The Mandalorian is barely a character, Bo-Katan is much more interesting. Other recurring characters (like the lady on Tatooine) are kind of annoying. And the show just has too much filler. You cannot afford to have more than half of your episodes feel like filler when it only has 8 episodes a season. We don't need to spend an entire episode on the ice planet with the frog lady. We don't need another episode to drag out the journey to Ahsoka (because that seems to be the case here). Also the writing in general seems terrible. Bo saves the Mandalorian twice from the same guys in like 5 minutes. Why? Why not just stick with one incredibly convenient rescue? I don't know, these live action shows have the potential to be good... but they just aren't. Yeah, I thought I was alone thinking the double rescue of Din seemed a little weird Really, I think having this show be about Bo getting the Mandalorians back to power would make for such a better premise. At least shift towards that idea with Din joining them |
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Post by Pinda on Nov 20, 2020 10:09:52 GMT -5
So I watched this when I had some time to kill. I like seeing a TCW character in live action, and Ahsoka's upcoming appearance is definitely something I look forward to. But other than that the plot of this show is so bland. The Mandalorian is barely a character, Bo-Katan is much more interesting. Other recurring characters (like the lady on Tatooine) are kind of annoying. And the show just has too much filler. You cannot afford to have more than half of your episodes feel like filler when it only has 8 episodes a season. We don't need to spend an entire episode on the ice planet with the frog lady. We don't need another episode to drag out the journey to Ahsoka (because that seems to be the case here). Also the writing in general seems terrible. Bo saves the Mandalorian twice from the same guys in like 5 minutes. Why? Why not just stick with one incredibly convenient rescue? I don't know, these live action shows have the potential to be good... but they just aren't. Yeah, I thought I was alone thinking the double rescue of Din seemed a little weird Really, I think having this show be about Bo getting the Mandalorians back to power would make for such a better premise. At least shift towards that idea with Din joining them It was really weird... Felt like something out of a terrible fan-movie. And yeah, Bo-Katan is just much more interesting as a character than Din (is that his name?). Maybe they can use the third season to shift the focus to the more interesting Mandalorians? I don't know, if they do that and stay away from the Sequels this show could still be good at some point. Or perhaps we get another show dealing with Bo and/or Ahsoka, that would be neat. But the problem with everything after ROTJ is that it basically takes place in the Sequel era. If these shows tell character stories, or smaller-scale stories that should not be a problem. But as soon as they touch upon galactic politics or the Jedi order it will suck. And those things are core to Star Wars, so that is a problem. Because in terms of Jedi, we only have Luke's shitty Jedi Order. And in terms of politics we will have the First Order and Resistance being in place soon enough. Which sucks. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 12, 2020 22:18:14 GMT -5
This episode was fun imo, I liked the humor on the docks with the Mon Cala and I’m really glad the question of the helmet got answered here.
Seeing Bo-Katan was pretty awesome although she’s too young for what she should be, appearance wise.
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I will say though, seeing Bo overshadow Din like this makes me seriously think he's going to get completely eclipsed by Ahsoka and Boba join in. I also really appreciate we're trading runtime for more development. It does feel like we're out of the filler woods and into something more significant. 
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 