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Post by zuma on Apr 10, 2020 6:12:36 GMT -5
Discussion for episode 9 of season 7 to be released on April 17th.
"Anakin and Obi-Wan must decide whether to help Ahsoka pursue Maul or rescue Palpatine"
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Post by zuma on Apr 10, 2020 6:19:51 GMT -5
Description is pretty surprising. I didn't think the rescue what happen in the first episode. I'm about mixed about that.
Good thing is I hope that means everything about the siege happens early enough that we can some Order 66 action by the end of this arc. Bad thing is that it probably means we won't get to spend too much time with Anakin and Ahsoka's reunion.
And I'm guessing Anakin's "handoff" of the 332nd company will happen in this episode then.
This feels like an episode that could be pretty busy.
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Post by Newan on Apr 10, 2020 9:44:34 GMT -5
I’m hoping these last episodes are longer... but probably not. Yeah this whole arc is gonna happen alongside ROTS. I already saw the description for the episode after this one as well so I got a pretty good feeling where it will end.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 10, 2020 10:12:20 GMT -5
Bad Batch should've come after the Ahsoka arc. It would make the timeline make so much more sense as we have some gap for when the sieges occur. But I guess they knew that arc was trash and figured it was safer to air Batch first so people wouldn't cancel their subscriptions
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 14, 2020 11:24:14 GMT -5
Damn this looks good. What planet do y'all think Obi-Wan and Anakin are fighting on? Too much greenery in the background for Mygeeto I think and doesn't quite look like Cato Neimodia. But I'm glad we'll be seeing them in action at least for a bit. Might be their last battle in the outer rim before they rescue Palpatine. I feel like that will all be in this episode too
But god damn it where are the ROTS pilots? And why are they using Z-95s and not ARCs
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Post by Star on Apr 14, 2020 16:19:37 GMT -5
Really excited to see how they handle this arc and any easter eggs they might include. I agree that this episode looks like it'll pack in a lot.
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Post by Newan on Apr 15, 2020 8:45:16 GMT -5
Idk I want to say Anakin and Kenobi should be on Cato Nemoidia before they go to the chancellor... I want to know if they are fighting before they meet Ahsoka or after.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 15, 2020 11:30:25 GMT -5
Idk I want to say Anakin and Kenobi should be on Cato Nemoidia before they go to the chancellor... I want to know if they are fighting before they meet Ahsoka or after. I'm thinking they will be in battle or just wrapping up and then Rex tells them Ahsoka is contacting them. Then Anakin hands off his troops and maybe we see them leaving for the rescue |
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Post by Newan on Apr 17, 2020 7:50:30 GMT -5
Starting now and oh boy this has a 29:51 minute run time... the siege is gonna be movie length...
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Post by Newan on Apr 17, 2020 8:22:52 GMT -5
That was really good, the intro was pretty nostalgic. I think it would have had even more significance if the show saw its full completion.
I’m guessing we won’t be seeing Anakin or Kenobi again though unless it’s hologram... it’s all gonna be about Ahsoka, Rex and Maul from here on out I bet. Oh I’m also willing to bet Shaak Ti dying to Grievous is gonna be canon now.
I just wish we got to see more Maul episodes before this one, it would have been such a good build up I bet.
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Post by Newan on Apr 17, 2020 8:23:38 GMT -5
I really hope they release an uncut version of the siege after it’s all said and done... this will be cool as a movie.
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Post by Newan on Apr 17, 2020 8:30:25 GMT -5
The animation is so crisp as well... Grievous looked badass as fuck. I really hope there’s some following of Anakin and Kenobi or the plots happening on Coruscant next episode, but I kind of doubt it. Although maybe there is a side plot? Cause I don’t remember Ahsoka being in the holograms when Mace says in the trailer “I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi”
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Post by Newan on Apr 17, 2020 8:36:33 GMT -5
I see what they did now. They gave us an arc with Anakin/ Kenobi and Rex and then an arc with Ahsoka with cameos from Maul and Bo and have them all meet at the end here... it wasn’t executed the best it could have been though.
But it also makes me think we will see a lot more Anakin and Kenobi as well in the next couple episodes.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 17, 2020 9:50:04 GMT -5
Yoooooooo wtf this episode was so good I was nutting the whole time
I wasn't expecting that intro. Kinda cool but also kinda weird like the Part 1 and then the episode title just looked like some PowerPoint slide with Microsoft font lol. But damn the beginning was so packed it was amazing. I'm glad we saw Grievous even if it was just one frame. Didn't look like he had a completely new design but it did look improved. Then Plo going to Cato Neimodia and Aayla on Felucia... bro.
But tbh after the story switched to Ahsoka I'm not gonna lie I was a bit disappointed. Like I was more interested in seeing Anakin and Obi-Wan going to Coruscant and the battle there. And like was that it? Was that the final moment between Anakin and Ahsoka? Because that was really lame tbh... Ahsoka's last words to him were "good luck"... I thought they would hug at least but no. And they didn't linger on the fact Grievous attacked the capital at all like they didn't seem that surprised
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 17, 2020 9:55:55 GMT -5
But yeah I hope so much we see Anakin and Obi-Wan again. This can't be it. I think Dave has said he feels the show is about Ahsoka and Rex but it isn't... Its also about Anakin and Obi. The show was made to make Anakin seem like a better character. I hope Dave hasn't forgotten that
Anyway it's kinda funny/sad Anakin thought Ahsoka was back and things would go back to the way they were. I bet he always kept her lightsabers around him because he really thought she would come back. And I guess he turned her crystals blue because that's his color. I really wish we got that scene from the Utapau arc where they talk about her.
Also I am sort of confused as to which sabers she has in Rebels though. The hilts are curved. Idk if that was in the novel or we'll see that in this arc
Speaking of Rebels they brought in Saxon too. He looked like such a chad with TCW animation lol. And at first I thought that was Sabine with the purple hair but I guess she'd be really young right now
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 17, 2020 10:02:09 GMT -5
I still feel like some things are missing though. I think the last episode of the walkabout arc should've shown Ahsoka doing stuff on Mandalore. She has been there for months now for the timelines to match but we don't know what she was doing. Might've been good to see them decide to ask the Republic for help. Also no way casual audiences know what's up with Maul even I don't... What happened after his fight with Sidious? Was that in Son of Dathomir? I hope they have a few lines somewhere that could help explain how/why he came back to Mandalore
Fuck man this is so exciting. We're in the endgame now bois. Since this episode was nearly 30 min I'm hoping the finale is an hour or at least 45 min which might be more realistic. I think Rebels finale was 48 min or something.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 17, 2020 10:18:06 GMT -5
What did y'all think of the Fulcrum bit? Apparently in her novel Ahsoka and Bail came up with the name but here Saw is using it? People saying they're retconning parts of the book because there's already a few inconsistencies. Maybe Fulcrum is some code name for rebels that started on Onderon. I really liked the Saw name drop though. But it felt like they spent more time on that bit than the Coruscant attack
Also now that I think about it maybe it's good how cold Ahsoka was to Anakin. He feels abandoned and hurt and its just another contribution to the build up that leads to his fall
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Post by Star on Apr 17, 2020 11:52:50 GMT -5
That was a fantastic way to open the final arc of the series Even without other arcs that would've made this more emotional (namely Son of Dathomir and Utapau), this worked so well. I'm glad the run times are closer to 30 mins, it'll make the arc really feel like a film.
The beginning with Anakin and Obi-Wan was amazing. Same with the quick clips of setting the Jedi in their ROTS places. I love how everything is falling into place. Also the battle as Ahsoka and Rex descended onto Sundari was breathtaking. I don't think we've seen anything come close to that kind of quality in TCW. It looked beautiful.
I got so excited seeing Almec, Gar Saxon, and other characters related to the Mandalore story. The way they're tying everything together despite the rocky road that led to this is very commendable. I can't wait to see how they handle the rest of the siege.
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Post by zuma on Apr 18, 2020 6:09:24 GMT -5
I see what they did now. They gave us an arc with Anakin/ Kenobi and Rex and then an arc with Ahsoka with cameos from Maul and Bo and have them all meet at the end here... it wasn’t executed the best it could have been though. But it also makes me think we will see a lot more Anakin and Kenobi as well in the next couple episodes. Yup. Filoni said in an interview that they decided to go with an arc focusing on Rex one focusing on Ahsoka and then bring the two together in Sige, because he kinda felt Ahsoka and Rex were the two main characters of TCW. |
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Post by zuma on Apr 18, 2020 6:14:02 GMT -5
Also I am sort of confused as to which sabers she has in Rebels though. The hilts are curved. Idk if that was in the novel or we'll see that in this arc Ahsoka and Rex both fake their deaths after Order 66 i executed if I recall. Ahsoka leaves her lightsabers behind then to make it seem legit. Then she constructs the white pair in the novel. I hope this arc takes us all the way to that point. |
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Post by zuma on Apr 18, 2020 6:26:37 GMT -5
Holy shit, this arc will be epic. I reaalllly appreciate the extended runtime. Disney is kinda crap in their treatment of Star Wars and especially Clone Wars, but one advantage of this airing on Disney+ could be the runtime. Seems like Disney at least had the brains to let them run these episodes as long as needed for the story.
Had it aired on Cartoon Network it might have been more strictly constrained to the 22 minutes we're used to.
The animation here is just beautiful! I swear for a second I thought we were looking at a still of Grievous from ROTS.
Anakin/Obi in the beginning was great to see. And I really liked how Anakin seems to always have harbored this hope that Ahsoka would return to the Order. I actually thought the little time we got with Anakin and Ahsoka was good. All the little extra seconds they spent on Anakin and then knowing what he'll be in just a few months from now.
Also some good moments between Ahsoka and Rex and Bo was pretty cool as well. It was great with her callback to Satine and having Obi-Wan comment on it.
The assault on Sundari was awesome to look at. We may finally have an aerial assault to challenge Landing at Point Rain.
Who knew Almex could fight lol.
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Post by zuma on Apr 18, 2020 6:33:47 GMT -5
Also, interesting intro they did. I guess it was bound to happen. They like doing that for those special episodes. And they did the quiet outtro which I think they've only done once before, in The Wrong Jedi.
Surprised by the "part 1" thing and then not including their usual fortune cookie for the first time I think.
This episode, if I'm not mistaken, had more movie music than any arcs we've had before. I seem to recall Filoni saying they tried avoiding just grabbing Williams' music, but it looks like they're really trying to tie it all together now.
I'm gonna settle on a 9/10 rating, just because I'm sure this it'll be even more epic in the coming weeks.
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Post by zuma on Apr 18, 2020 6:52:07 GMT -5
Aw crap I was just thinking about if they do Order 66...
Ahsoka and Rex will have to kill clones wearing Ahsoka's markings in tribute...talk about painful moment.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 18, 2020 8:00:58 GMT -5
To quote Gunray on this one, "At last we're seeing results". This was just a total 180 from the last 4 episodes combined. The opening excellently set the tone and seeing the Siege in all its glory was a sight to behold. Even the music's been kicked up a notch! I also love the minor details, like the variations in the Mando armour, Grievous looking 50% more menacing and that little nod to the old Clone Wars with Shaak Ti protecting Palps. Kind of an understated final meeting between Anakin and Ahsoka though. Maybe they'll have another moment? And I super appreciate the bumped up runtime. Looks like this finale will have plenty room to breath. I do find it funny though that this is just before ROTS and Anakin here still feels so different to Hayden's portrayal  |
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Post by zuma on Apr 18, 2020 10:46:36 GMT -5
Kind of an understated final meeting between Anakin and Ahsoka though. Maybe they'll have another moment? And I super appreciate the bumped up runtime. Looks like this finale will have plenty room to breath. I do find it funny though that this is just before ROTS and Anakin here still feels so different to Hayden's portrayal I don't think so. Right now it lines up perfectly with Ahsoka's Rebels quote about the last time she saw Anakin was "as he was rushing off to save the Chancellor". They could of course do some hologram discussions between them. I don't think a ROTS conversation between them at some point during the ROTS would clash with anything. He had to spend his months during Padmé pregnancy doing something after all lol. |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 18, 2020 11:19:34 GMT -5
I think we'll see Anakin again just not with Ahsoka. We have to he's a main character... If this was it it won't sit well with me. Rebels did a sort of montage thing showing where all the characters ended up I wouldn't mind seeing something like that here. Seeing Vader animated would be amazing
I think we'll see Obi-Wan at least there was a shot in the trailer with him wearing a hood which we haven't seen.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 18, 2020 14:34:40 GMT -5
Kind of an understated final meeting between Anakin and Ahsoka though. Maybe they'll have another moment? And I super appreciate the bumped up runtime. Looks like this finale will have plenty room to breath. I do find it funny though that this is just before ROTS and Anakin here still feels so different to Hayden's portrayal I don't think so. Right now it lines up perfectly with Ahsoka's Rebels quote about the last time she saw Anakin was "as he was rushing off to save the Chancellor". They could of course do some hologram discussions between them. I don't think a ROTS conversation between them at some point during the ROTS would clash with anything. He had to spend his months during Padmé pregnancy doing something after all lol. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, a little hologram talk or something. However it's got me wondering suddenly. If ROTS takes place over a long period of time, then does the Siege last a long time? I mean if Order 66 happens within a short timeframe in the arc, then I've gotten ROTS in universe time scale so wrong |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 18, 2020 14:35:33 GMT -5
Oh my god, I just realised the possibility of Vader appearing. I've always wondered how he'd look in TCW's art style |
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Post by zuma on Apr 19, 2020 8:48:04 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, a little hologram talk or something. However it's got me wondering suddenly. If ROTS takes place over a long period of time, then does the Siege last a long time? I mean if Order 66 happens within a short timeframe in the arc, then I've gotten ROTS in universe time scale so wrong I think ROTS at least has to span 3-4 months. At the start of the movie Padmé's pregnancy is barely or not at all showing. You usually start to show around 3-4 months. If we go with 4 (meaning Anakin's Outer Rim Siege took 4 months) and say she gave birth a month early that's still a 4-month timeline for ROTS, meaning Siege has to take place over 4 months if Order 66 happens here. I'm curious to see how Filoni explains that timeline. But in real-life 4 months for a Siege isn't really that long after all. If Ahsoka and Maul fight in the next episode they could jump a few months forward in time in the 3rd episode and just say the Mandalore campaign has been raging that long. Of course all this begs the quesiton, if Anakin and Obi-Wan weren't doing much on Coruscant after rescuing Palpatine why didn't they head back out to Mandalore to help Ahsoka |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 19, 2020 10:38:45 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, a little hologram talk or something. However it's got me wondering suddenly. If ROTS takes place over a long period of time, then does the Siege last a long time? I mean if Order 66 happens within a short timeframe in the arc, then I've gotten ROTS in universe time scale so wrong I think ROTS at least has to span 3-4 months. At the start of the movie Padmé's pregnancy is barely or not at all showing. You usually start to show around 3-4 months. If we go with 4 (meaning Anakin's Outer Rim Siege took 4 months) and say she gave birth a month early that's still a 4-month timeline for ROTS, meaning Siege has to take place over 4 months if Order 66 happens here. I'm curious to see how Filoni explains that timeline. But in real-life 4 months for a Siege isn't really that long after all. If Ahsoka and Maul fight in the next episode they could jump a few months forward in time in the 3rd episode and just say the Mandalore campaign has been raging that long. Of course all this begs the quesiton, if Anakin and Obi-Wan weren't doing much on Coruscant after rescuing Palpatine why didn't they head back out to Mandalore to help Ahsoka Yeah, these are exactly the sort of questions I'm curious about the arc answering. Especially that last one I mean, even it'd be hilarious if it's mentioned that over several months both of them were constantly getting sidetracked with something else, so they couldn't go to Mandalore |
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