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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 25, 2018 15:49:45 GMT -5
Here we are, the Season 2 finale! A real turning point for the show IMO. A personal story and a pretty mature one too.
October 26th - November 1st 2018
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 25, 2018 15:50:23 GMT -5
Probably will not get to this one soon TBH. Got a lot of things coming up.
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Post by Newan on Oct 26, 2018 3:07:13 GMT -5
The Holocron episodes seemed pretty villain centric to me though
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 26, 2018 8:29:13 GMT -5
The Holocron episodes seemed pretty villain centric to me though Fuck |
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Post by Newan on Oct 26, 2018 12:38:15 GMT -5
Actually Lair of Grievous is probably the first villain centric episode
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 26, 2018 13:47:42 GMT -5
Actually Lair of Grievous is probably the first villain centric episode Idk. I guess I kinda mean because Boba kinda feels like the protagonist here even though we’re usually against him. It’s kinda cool like that and it opens it up to Ventress, Savage, and eventually Maul being the “protagonists” of their own episodes. |
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Post by Star on Oct 29, 2018 13:29:39 GMT -5
One of the main things that stood out to me in Death Trap was the music. It felt sort of different than most episodes and a lot more fitting, such as when Bossk and Aurra show up at the end. The writing and pacing were also nice, and this episode does a good job setting up the main story for the following episodes. My main complaint would be that the story is undermined by us knowing Lucky was Boba the whole time, and it seems way too obvious he's not like the others. As a result, this makes me more interested in the upcoming story rather than the one presented in this episode.
Also, Boba managed to get away with a lot of things, which made it difficult to truly believe everything happening was plausible. I think the episode does well in how it subtly shows Boba's transformation into the OT bounty hunter by displaying how he only wanted to kill Windu without harming the rest of the crew. Even his struggle to abandon the cadets shows he isn't truly ruthless yet, just a kid that wants to avenge his father.
Admiral Killian was pretty cool, and the whole sequence with the side of the ship blowing up was rightfully intense. I liked how he kept his cool by telling the cadets to "make a drill of it" by going to the escape pods as a way to calm them, even though he knew the ship was going down. Not at all a bad episode, but it isn't one of my favorites either. I'll give it 7/10.
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Post by Star on Oct 30, 2018 21:29:22 GMT -5
R2 Come Home is an improvement from the previous episode, and this depiction of R2-D2 feels much similar to how he is in the originals. We see him pulling stunts and having that classic personality, which I enjoyed. Aurra is fleshed out a lot more in this episode too, and they do a good job of making her seem like a ruthless bounty hunter.
The animation in this episode is amazing, especially everything surrounding the ship crash. It was interesting to see Boba so willing to destroy his father's helmet, but I guess if he thought it would kill Mace, then it'd be appropriate. I also liked seeing Mace and Anakin disagree about how to handle the bounty hunters.
This is a pretty fun episode, but since it relies so heavily on R2, it does drag a little in some parts. A lot of the tension is also lessened since we know all the major characters will survive.
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Post by Star on Oct 31, 2018 16:24:23 GMT -5
I never used to think much of Lethal Trackdown, but after watching it again, it's one of my favorites from S2. We get a lot of depth to Aurra's character, there is a wide variety of music, and a good mix of characters. Like Dooku Captured, I really like seeing the interaction between two "villainous" groups. More of Hondo is great, and I liked that glimpse of intimidation he expressed due to Aurra.
Plo and Ahsoka work really well here. It's always implied they are close throughout the series, but this episode really demonstrates that. It's interesting to think how different Ahsoka would be if she was his padawan instead. The scenes of the Coruscant Underworld are among my favorite in this episode, with both the descent down the portal and scenes inside the bar doing a nice job capturing what it's like down there. Also, earlier episodes commonly had characters switch midway through (Gunray arc, Geonosis arc, etc), and sometimes it just felt like an excuse to show-off more characters; however, here it feels natural. Even though it would've been nice to see Mace and Anakin through this story to the end, the switch makes sense.
There's not really a moment of this episode I don't like. Everything in it feels important. The story also has a lot more mature moments in comparison to what we've seen thus far on the show.
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Post by Star on Oct 31, 2018 16:31:33 GMT -5
This arc does a nice job showing Boba entering a new phase in his life. He changes a lot between now and when we see him again in Deception. My ratings for the arc would be as follows:
Death Trap: 7/10
R2 Come Home: 7.5/10
Lethal Trackdown: 9/10
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Post by Star on Oct 31, 2018 16:35:09 GMT -5
I guess my biggest critique of Lethal Trackdown would be the ending. The final scene feels kind of tacked-on and pretty abrupt, but I can see why they did it. Other than that though, I can't think of any glaring issues.
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2018 20:50:58 GMT -5
Death Trap: 8/10
R2 Come Home : 7/10
Lethal Trackdown: 8/10
I like the arc as a whole, it’s cool to see the Bounty Hunters working together. Boba and Bossk especially since they are like the main OT guys. Aurra is really cool as well though. Death Trap is interesting because it’s all on one cruiser and you get to see a lot of the ship, Rebels did a few of those episodes on Star Destroyers and Through Imperial Eyes was one of those and it was a top 3 episode of the show for me.
R2 Come Home was interesting but not much happens overall and I don’t really feel like R2 is a character that needs his own episodes or development.
Lethal Trackdown is fun, I like seeing Plo and Ahsoka together and this was before the point where Plo became too overused as a rescuer guy. We later see him rescue at the citadel, slave arc,season 4 droid arc, etc...
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Post by Newan on Oct 31, 2018 20:51:51 GMT -5
I do like Admiral Killian as well Star, it’s a shame the only other time we see him is in the background at the War Conference in season 5.
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Post by Star on Nov 1, 2018 14:01:23 GMT -5
I do like Admiral Killian as well Star, it’s a shame the only other time we see him is in the background at the War Conference in season 5. Which episode was that? I don't remember seeing him again, but if it was in the background, it's possible I missed it. |
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 1, 2018 18:29:40 GMT -5
Uh Death Trap kinda sucks.... Would've liked a different start to the Boba's revenge story. Also Mace and Anakin are together again acting like friends.... Maybe they could've used Obi-Wan instead of Anakin. He fought Jango as well so maybe there could be something to use with that
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 1, 2018 18:52:52 GMT -5
R2 Come Home is okay. The burning Venator was cool. Not sure how they could fly between Vanqor and Coruscant so fast but ok
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 1, 2018 19:19:18 GMT -5
Wow Lethal Trackdown has some really mature stuff... The Underworld portal was cool though I think this is the first time we see it. Perhaps this episode inspired 1313. But did I miss something like they sent Mace an open invitation to face them so they told them where they were. Why did Plo and Ahsoka have to look for them?
Honestly not the greatest arc like nothing really happens. I can't say I even really enjoyed seeing Boba because he's just an annoying kid... But the Slave I was nice. I think they could've come up with a better story to show Boba
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 7, 2018 16:54:35 GMT -5
Death Trap is as intense as it is insightful, what with the whole cadet training going throughout the episode. That said there's more than a few strokes of convenience that allow Boba to get away with so much. However I really loved some of the atmospheric scenes, such as the Endurance going down and the Slave 1's arrival. I also much prefer Killian over Yularen. In one episode he displays more interesting character than he does in several. It's also pretty mature at points, what with the whole abusive parent dynamic Boba has with Aurra. R2 Come Home is kind of a weird one. Some scenes set the sombre mood perfectly and yet it's an R2 focused episode that involves grim uses of... slapstick. Kinda. Still, I loved the space chase and when the gundark gets towed off in that real whiplash moment. However I'm not sure this kind of R2 episode belongs in this kind of arc. Also, having seen more time with them together, I can see another reason why Anakin takes the Sith route: his professional relationship with Windu is frosty at best. I mean it's always gonna be when one's cocky and the other looks down at the other. Ironically they both sort of share an arrogance  Right from the off, Lethal Trackdown's fortune cookie piece of advice makes me laugh. "Revenge is a confession of pain". Basically, Maul's character in a single sentence One thing this one does is up the maturity, a perfect time to debut the underworld. Man, having seen it again, I remember how epic the place looks. The atmosphere and design is just oozing in cool. The story also gives enough nuggets to make me wish we had more knowledge on Jango's background in the bounty hunter web. On the whole though the whole thing's sort of sad. Boba basically gets the worst luck. Getting in with the wrong crowd, being a lone orphan and winds up a living weapon with an eye solely on the cheque. Guess you have to have a sucky life to live in such cool armour. Also, Hondo's first reaction to Boba is classic, lol |
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Post by Spidyyr on Nov 7, 2018 23:15:10 GMT -5
I feel like Death Trap isn’t as good as I remember but it is pretty good. I like Boba’s character and it’s obvious how much Jango’s death has matured him. I kinda wonder what it would be like if we didn’t know it was Boba but then again it would be hard to keep that a secret and we’ve already had a lot of traitor episodes. Like Mav said, I think Boba had a bit too easy of a time with his plan. A lot of things just worked out for them. And also it seems like they should have been able to figure out one of the cadets was the saboteur. But anyways, I like how even though Boba was ultimately willing to kill clones, he tried not to and clearly felt guilty when he had to do it. Like the guy he left there surely died from the explosions. I liked the darkness of the episode and how it did a good job in making us sympathetic with the villain. I just felt like some of it didn’t flow too well. Things happened too fast and often too easily. 7/10
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Post by Spidyyr on Nov 10, 2018 1:24:46 GMT -5
R2 Come Home always felt out of place to me. First of all, it just seems weird to have R2 take over an episode in the middle of this arc. It also robs the episode of some potentially great moments, as we don't get any real showdown. The episode is much lighter than the other two, despite having a few dark moments. This is frustrating since it is probably the best R2 focused episode, but I just hate its placement. The stuff with the gundarks and the thermal detonator is great, but sadly it subtracts from the arc overall. If it were standalone, I'd give it a 7/10. But I feel like I can only do 6/10.
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Post by Spidyyr on Nov 10, 2018 1:46:41 GMT -5
Lethal Trackdown is easily the best episode of the arc. I do wish Mace played a bigger role in it, but it makes sense why he wouldn't. Anyway, the episode is pretty mature, something which I remember surprised me. All the stuff with Aurra, the dog fighting going on, and the pretty cruel death of Commander Ponds. A lot happens in this episode, and all of it is paced pretty well save the final scene, which sadly doesn't get to breathe. But that's probably my only fault in the episode. The underworld is really cool to see here. I really like having Plo as a main character as he didn't do much in Season 2. Ahsoka also has her best fight scenes up to this point here. I think it really showed how capable she had become. I also think this one did a lot for Boba's character. It shows he really sees himself as a hero and doesn't want to do evil things. I think this makes him a really interesting character. It's just too bad he's not too threatening yet. I couldn't decide between an 8 or a 9 so I'm going with my first fractional grade: 8.5/10
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