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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 6, 2018 15:30:04 GMT -5
Almost to the end of Season 1! Here's three episodes that honestly I didn't think much of when I first saw them. Let's see if they're any better or worse than I recall.
Septmeber 7th - 13th 2018
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 6, 2018 17:11:20 GMT -5
Wow I’m falling behind... I know the virus episodes got some negativity but I thought they were fun
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Post by Newan on Sept 6, 2018 17:44:39 GMT -5
It feels like the rewatch is going fast but we still have 8 months lol...
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Post by Star on Sept 6, 2018 22:58:31 GMT -5
School is picking up now, so I may fall behind a little in the rewatch.
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Post by Newan on Sept 7, 2018 16:08:18 GMT -5
Hmm usually Backgrounds are multiple boxes with the image produced multiple times but this one is all one fluid background , maybe its the resolution of the image.
Edit: My ipad has multiple but my PC doesn't....
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Post by Newan on Sept 7, 2018 16:09:43 GMT -5
Pretty much this episode, A Friend in Need and Scipio arc are the only episodes with a snow environment  funny that water settings have more episodes lol Oh and I guess Ilum in the youngling arc but that more Ice, planet is so cold it probably doesn't actually snow much |
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Post by Newan on Sept 7, 2018 21:13:58 GMT -5
Trespass is still the best episode of season 1 IMO and probably the best standalone in the entire show although Cat and Mouse and Bounty Hunters are pretty good as well. Funny how the earlier seasons had very good standalone episodes and then for some reason they decide to do away with them later on... although I feel like the reason they stopped was the poor reception to the sit around on Coruscant standalone episodes, which were boring and they should have known that. Trespass is a 9/10, the only other 9 I have given is Cat and Mouse but that’s not in season 1 technically The music in Trespass was used very well and the whole mystery at the start and then the battle later on is just really cool and pretty unique |
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Post by Star on Sept 8, 2018 9:54:10 GMT -5
Pretty much this episode, A Friend in Need and Scipio arc are the only episodes with a snow environment funny that water settings have more episodes lol Oh and I guess Ilum in the youngling arc but that more Ice, planet is so cold it probably doesn't actually snow much I was thinking the same thing. It's almost a little odd that snow planets didn't appear more often. As for the Coruscant standalone episodes, I have fond memories of most of those maybe my opinions will change with the rewatch, but I really liked how they gave us more insight to the planet. Coruscant really interests me, even if the main story line is sub-par. |
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Post by Star on Sept 8, 2018 22:44:57 GMT -5
Trespass is a good episode, but my main complaint is the pacing. I know there's only 22 minutes to work with, but it felt like we went from one scene to the next so fast that it gave the impression of events happening too easily (like war suddenly starting and then stopping).
It was a little odd how Obi-Wan was able to give so much information to the Chairman about the Talz following their first meeting with them. I'm not sure how he would've gotten their species name or some of the other things with only gestures and pictures. But I did like how they made Obi-Wan really showcase his negotiating skills in this episode and help Chuchi improve hers.
The animation and attention to detail is amazing and probably the best we've seen from the rewatch so far. The themes throughout the episode are also very good and handled better compared to what we saw in the previous arc. All of the action sequences are very good, and I did like this episode more now versus first viewing it many years ago. I would give this episode 8/10.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 13, 2018 3:00:10 GMT -5
Aw, yeah, time to get back to a good ol' fave. Newan is right, this is easily the best episode of the season. I don't think I've made it any secret in the past that it's my favourite The atmosphere and cinematography in the beginning, the music, the battle scenes, the much improved animation (we've already come a long, long way from the robotic stuff from earlier) the moral theme of it all, the setting. It's just rad However, I am with Star on how Obi-Wan, with no translator got to know the Talz' details. Nevertheless I really wished they made more one-offs as good as this one. A new observation I made was how similar the setting is to whenever the British Empire came across new lands with different people. If only they treated them the same as Pantora does with the Talz in the end  |
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Post by Star on Sept 13, 2018 15:45:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it was intentional, but Pantora is like a rip-off of Pandora. It seems even worse seeing that both worlds are home to blue-humanoid species.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 14, 2018 2:42:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it was intentional, but Pantora is like a rip-off of Pandora. It seems even worse seeing that both worlds are home to blue-humanoid species. Actually maybe TCW did that first, since the episode debuted before Avatar. Maybe it's Cameron who should worry about any lawsuit |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 14, 2018 8:25:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it was intentional, but Pantora is like a rip-off of Pandora. It seems even worse seeing that both worlds are home to blue-humanoid species. Actually maybe TCW did that first, since the episode debuted before Avatar. Maybe it's Cameron who should worry about any lawsuit
Listen here you savage. The name Pantora belongs to Star Wars. And as the owner and exhalted creator of Star Wars, you will not command me to change the name or to do anything else.
–GL |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 14, 2018 16:58:13 GMT -5
Trespass is just alright imo... Like it's good but not incredible. I agree with Star about the pacing. Honestly not really much else to say the snow looked good and I like the designs of stuff like the cold weather outfits, the FREECO speeders, and whatnot. Also Rex was pretty badass here
What is he the chairman of though? Dumbass decisions? I wonder why he was so desperate to take the planet did it have some good resources? Could've just shared with the Talz considering it doesn't seem like there's too many of them. Or could've gone to literally any other planet/moon in the System if none of the others are inhabited
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 14, 2018 17:57:11 GMT -5
The virus episodes are really good. The first one could've been it but I think having the second was a good continuation. The bio warfare angle was interesting. Throwback to Qui-Gon's death though. Obi-Wan had to return to that same hangar..
Iego is also a really cool planet, wish it was explored more. Would be a good location for a video game. And we actually see the angels for real that Anakin talks about in TPM. Funny how Jaybo's friend's name was "taquito".... lol... And then he was in the background of that one shot even when he was dead lol
But yeah honestly these are pretty flawless episodes imo. Only thing is how did they get the Twilight and also realistically going from Naboo to Iego which is deep in Separatist space would've taken quite some time
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 14, 2018 20:43:29 GMT -5
I have a lot of thoughts about Trespass but first thing's first, it's quite good. 8/10 Think it really shows off the potential of the show. I didn't really appreciate it that much when I was nine, so it feels like the Season 1 episode I remember the least. First contact is always an interesting concept and I like seeing it here. The atmosphere of the planet is great and the Talz are cool. I like how they took a background alien from ANH and made a whole story based around its discovery. It's also cool that they had Obi and Ani here but they got to be diplomats instead of generals, kinda how Jedi are supposed to beNow onto my notes, I'm not sure how C-3PO would be able to understand the Talz. I know he has 6 million forms of communication but it seems unlikely that one of an undiscovered species would be one of them. IDK. And I know they cut away but it seems unlikely Obi-Wan would be able to understand enough to set up a meeting. I'm not even sure why they brought 3PO as they didn't seem to expect the attacker was anything but droids. Also, I guess this is the first official contradiction between this and the micro series. If the Talz have their first contact here, there's no way there could be a Talz Jedi guarding the Chancellor right before ROTS.
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Post by Star on Sept 14, 2018 21:26:22 GMT -5
I remember really liking the Blue Shadow Virus episode when I was younger. It's still a fun episode, and the concept of biological warfare is pretty cool. Nuvo Vindi also makes me laugh, even if I can't take him seriously as a villain.
The first half of the episode is a little weak, but I enjoy the second half. The whole scene when Obi-Wan, Anakin, and the clones show up at his lab dropping from the gunships at night is really awesome I think. I wish we got some more sequences like that in the show. This is not the best episode, but it's certainly not the worst either.
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 15, 2018 9:29:43 GMT -5
I have a lot of thoughts about Trespass but first thing's first, it's quite good. 8/10 Think it really shows off the potential of the show. I didn't really appreciate it that much when I was nine, so it feels like the Season 1 episode I remember the least. First contact is always an interesting concept and I like seeing it here. The atmosphere of the planet is great and the Talz are cool. I like how they took a background alien from ANH and made a whole story based around its discovery. It's also cool that they had Obi and Ani here but they got to be diplomats instead of generals, kinda how Jedi are supposed to beNow onto my notes, I'm not sure how C-3PO would be able to understand the Talz. I know he has 6 million forms of communication but it seems unlikely that one of an undiscovered species would be one of them. IDK. And I know they cut away but it seems unlikely Obi-Wan would be able to understand enough to set up a meeting. I'm not even sure why they brought 3PO as they didn't seem to expect the attacker was anything but droids. Also, I guess this is the first official contradiction between this and the micro series. If the Talz have their first contact here, there's no way there could be a Talz Jedi guarding the Chancellor right before ROTS. Yeah I was thinking C-3PO might not know their language but maybe there's algorithms or stuff for that.. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 15, 2018 15:26:15 GMT -5
The Virus story is a sort of mixed bag for me. Some of the action scenes are choice, such as the raid on the bunker and the escape from Iego. I even like how Vindi defines over the top The big highlight though was Iego. The setting is awesome. Not just for the tonnes of moons, but the look of it and the multiple cultures that clearly inhabit it. It was being Jedha before Jedha was a thing. It would be great if a movie, show, comic, or whatever put some focus on these many backwaters that nobody pays notice to like Jaybo said. However the arc kinda drags at times, especially with the early stage of part 1. |
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Post by Star on Sept 17, 2018 18:17:44 GMT -5
Mystery of a Thousand Moons is one of those episodes that's sort of forgettable, but at the same time is fun to rediscover. It almost gives me a Rebels vibe when Anakin and Obi-Wan are on Iego (in the sense that Iego is oppressed by the CIS and diverse, like Lothal with the Empire). The planet itself is interesting in concept, and I wish we had gotten to have a few more episodes centered around places like it. The references to TPM-Anakin are also nice, such as talk about angels and building droids.
Although the main plot on Naboo takes a backseat here, which lowers the tension considerably, I still enjoy the episode. It ties up the story introduced in the previous episode nicely, and that's good enough for me.
It confused me a little that the clones became infected so easily, since I figured that their helmets would protect them. The amount of time spent traveling between Naboo and Iego also seemed too fast to be realistic, but it's not a major issue. Also this arc marks the start of 21 BBY for the series.
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Post by Star on Sept 17, 2018 18:21:17 GMT -5
Like the Maridun arc, the Virus one is an interesting side story that still pertains to the war. They're nothing amazing, but they're different, and I like that. I wish Padme wasn't constantly being captured in every episode thus far though, or being forced to have Jar-Jar be with her almost every time.
Blue Shadow Virus: 6/10
Mystery of a Thousand Moons: 7/10
Virus arc: 6.5/10
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 18, 2018 11:40:01 GMT -5
As others have said, the second half of Blue Shadow Virus is far better than the first. It starts off as what seems like another Padme/Jar Jar/3PO Episode but it gets way better once the Jedi show up. The battle that ensues is pretty tensionless but still fun. The Doctor is pretty over the top but I guess that’s the point. Not a big fan of that villain type but fine. Jar Jar’s voice is at its worse here. I’m sorry, but BJ Hughes just doesn’t do it. I think he was better in Gungan General. It’s all over pretty fast once it gets going but good enough. 6/10
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 18, 2018 11:46:24 GMT -5
I know a lot of people don’t really like Mystery of a Thousand Moons because of all the stuff on Iego, but it’s better than the first episode IMO. Anakin and Obi-Wan together always makes for good dialogue, and they have good moments here. (they also had a good moment in the Theed hanger last episode) I find it a little funny that they intentionally remind you of Anakin’s TPM pick up line to Padme with the Angels here. The Naboo plot line is pretty good here and things get intense. I remember some people thought Ahsoka was actually dead here. Also, Anakin being a huge dick to Captain Typho in these episodes is funny. Jaybo is kinda annoying but the a lot of fun stuff happens there between Droll and the plants with giant teeth. I’m still not sure how they safely opened the lab to cure everyone but that’s fine. 7/10
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 18, 2018 11:47:22 GMT -5
Stolen Separatist Shuttle Count: 3
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Post by Star on Sept 18, 2018 13:49:26 GMT -5
I know a lot of people don’t really like Mystery of a Thousand Moons because of all the stuff on Iego, but it’s better than the first episode IMO. Anakin and Obi-Wan together always makes for good dialogue, and they have good moments here. (they also had a good moment in the Theed hanger last episode) I find it a little funny that they intentionally remind you of Anakin’s TPM pick up line to Padme with the Angels here. The Naboo plot line is pretty good here and things get intense. I remember some people thought Ahsoka was actually dead here. Also, Anakin being a huge dick to Captain Typho in these episodes is funny. Jaybo is kinda annoying but the a lot of fun stuff happens there between Droll and the plants with giant teeth. I’m still not sure how they safely opened the lab to cure everyone but that’s fine. 7/10 Jaybo was annoying, but I think it fits with the kind of character he is meant to be, so I didn't mind. Sometimes I feel they make it too obvious Anakin and Padme are in a relationship, but I guess it could be passed off as their history making them appear really close. Thankfully, the worst moments of that in TCW still don't surpass some moments in the PT. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 15, 2018 19:34:59 GMT -5
Blue Shadow Virus is actually pretty enjoyable, I don’t mind seeing Naboo too much especially the Hanger was nice to see. Although it’s kind of odd that the sepratists take so much interest in the planet... it really isn’t that important. Actually I’m pretty sure all of their mines are exhausted so it’s kind of a deadweight world. It was originally a mining colony though. I guess it’s important because of Palpatine, I’m pretty sure he wanted his home world destroyed anyways.
What I don’t understand is why the hell they have the lab on a republic controlled world where they plan to test the first bombs... why not do it in Separatist space? That seems pretty stupid to me. Dr. Vindi however is a pretty decent villain, certainly unique.
This episode did feel fast paced though, I noticed the cuts between scenes were extremely quick here. But the animation was actually pretty good all things considered. Kenobi “relationship with the gungans” plays no part though. But I do like how the people at Theed call Anakin by his first name cause they kind of know him.
Anyways I’m going to give this one a 7/10, it’s enjoyable but has some noticeable flaws. Pretty good for a season 1 episode though
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Post by Newan on Dec 15, 2018 20:02:56 GMT -5
Mystery of a Thousand Moons is really one of those questionable episodes that probably did not need to be made, I think this arc could have been fine as a stand-alone episode. Although I don’t mind Iego, and Jebo isn’t that bad for a kid (kind of cool actually) I just don’t like the plot that much tbh. The stuff on Naboo is extremely boring cause we know they are all gonna get rescued and I have no idea how they opened the lab without infecting everyone or how Jar Jar was supposed to get out if everyone died, he still had his suit on.
The final confrontation was pretty easy and I’m not sure how 50 of the “best” pilots would have died to that, like every ship in Star Wars has guns lol...
Anyways I’m going to say 6/10, Kenobi and Anakin as always are good, the locations are decent but overall a bit of a needless story.
Well I just got Weeks 2 and 3 to catch up on now
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Post by Newan on Dec 15, 2018 20:19:35 GMT -5
Although you get the feeling that the adventure Anakin and Kenobi have on Iego is probably in line with adventures they may have had between TPM and AOTC, or and adventure that Kenobi and Qui-Gon would have had
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funny that water settings have more episodes lol
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 