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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:18:42 GMT -5
Honestly, I might pay for these episodes if I can find a way to do it in the Netherlands. It will sent a message to Disney.
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:21:54 GMT -5
I think the most optimal route would have been one COMPLETE season to send TCW off. Sure the show had 2.5 seasons left but that's probably just unrealistic at this point. The sad thing is after these 12 episodes air there's gonna be a lot of fan bitching for the rest. A full season to end the show and bring proper closure would prevent that I think. Ideally I'd say we should have gotten: Utapau Arc (4 Episodes) Bad Batch Arc (4 Episodes) Filler 2 Episode Arc Bounty Hunter Arc (4 Episodes) Dark Disciple Arc (4 Episodes) Siege of Mandalore (4 Episodes) Release the season in that order and you got a good conclusion to TCW. Banes story gets wrapped up, Ventress story gets wrapped up, Ahsoka, Rex and Mauls clone wars stories get wrapped up. I'm cutting Dark Disciple in half cause 8 episodes would just be unrealistic and I think it can be done in 4... Son of Dathomir got left off since I think Maul would have a big role in siege of Mandalore and I don't think we need 8 Maul episodes either. The Utapau and Bad Batch arcs get put in my default because it's just cost efficient to have them since they are so far complete. As for the 2 episode filler, idk anything could work. I was personally really itnerested in that Vong arc but given new Disney canon that would never happen. Maybe something with Kashyyyk or the outer rim sieges would be cool. Or seeing Bendu in TCW or something. I think that sounds realistic and satisfying. Even though I never complained much about the "filler" episodes of TCW, I'm sure that 2.5 more seasons would've still given us more of them like the Droid and Youngling arcs. I liked that they gave more expansion to the series, but I'm fine passing up on them too to allow us to see the major stories. I agree 8 Maul episodes would be too much. We don't need him "taking over" the show in its final seasons. Another alternative would be cutting the Bounty Hunter arc (under the theory that there will be a bounty hunter anthology film) and replacing it with more episodes centered on Outer Rim Sieges or the Force (i.e. Mortis and Yoda arcs). Problem is that I think the extended Mortis stuff planned for TCW got moved into Rebels I think the stuff with the Bendu and the time travel stuff might have been the extra Mortis expansion that would have been in TCW. Bounty Hunter arc despite being almost finished and voice acted I believe might get left out because of a possible Boba Fett movie or content that still might happen. But I could see them doing Bounty Hunter Arc Bad Batch Arc Siege of Manadalore Arc As the 12 episodes. Honestly 16 Epsidoes with those 3 arc plus Utapau and I'd be more happy. Those 16 would be enough for me since we got Dark Disciple and Son of Dathomir delivered in other formats already |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:25:14 GMT -5
So that clone wars rewatch idea I had awhile back? Maybe we should organize and do that sometime. We could do like one arc per 2 weeks or something. Not the entire show but focusing on the episodes released to the arcs that will probably be in the new episodes.
So Mandalore stuff, Maul stuff, Clone stuff I guess, or we could make a list and jut rewatch all the good arcs.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 19, 2018 17:26:48 GMT -5
That last bit with them seeing Ahsoka... Man I'm so hype I cannot wait. The animation just looks so good... Gotta be some of the best animation on tv out there second probably being Archer. Also someone made this image reddit.app.link/m1YqXmmQGOMan fuck Rebels |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:34:07 GMT -5
Really 16 episodes and I'd be totally happy, no complaints at all...
Give us Utapau, Bounty Hunters, Bad Batch and Siege of Mandalore and I'd take it. It's a little sad knowing one of Utapau or Bounty Hunters will be left out, probably the later. Dark Disciple and Son of Dathomir had good releases as a book and comic respectively.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:35:29 GMT -5
Really 16 episodes and I'd be totally happy, no complaints at all... Give us Utapau, Bounty Hunters, Bad Batch and Siege of Mandalore and I'd take it. It's a little sad knowing one of Utapau or Bounty Hunters will be left out, probably the later. Dark Disciple and Son of Dathomir had good releases as a book and comic respectively. I understand there is no need to do Dark Disciple or Son of Dathomir... But they could totally do it, and I don't understand why they wouldn't. I think there are some really awesome moments in both that would work really well on TV. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 19, 2018 17:37:27 GMT -5
I'd rather have Utapau than bounty hunters. Think that's what we will get anyway since I don't think they got that much done for bounty hunters, animation wise
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:48:15 GMT -5
I watched part of the panel in which they revealed the trailer. It is interesting that before they revealed anything they were discussing the Dark Disciple story and Filoni says "This is going to be a great arc. It's gonna have big battles in there." Makes it sound like it could happen.
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:50:11 GMT -5
I watched part of the panel in which they revealed the trailer. It is interesting that before they revealed anything they were discussing the Dark Disciple story and Filoni says "This is going to be a great arc. It's gonna have big battles in there." Makes it sound like it could happen. You sure that was directed at Dark Disciple? Cause I don't think it has any real battles really, more like skirmishes and lightsaber fights... Sounds like more of a reference to the siege of Mandalore. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:51:09 GMT -5
Any news on a possible release date? I'm guessing Fall 2019, but I'm hoping it's earlier.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:51:43 GMT -5
I watched part of the panel in which they revealed the trailer. It is interesting that before they revealed anything they were discussing the Dark Disciple story and Filoni says "This is going to be a great arc. It's gonna have big battles in there." Makes it sound like it could happen. You sure that was directed at Dark Disciple? Cause I don't think it has any real battles really, more like skirmishes and lightsaber fights... Sounds like more of a reference to the siege of Mandalore. No there were pictures of Ventress and Dooku up as he spoke. And he mentioned how hard it would be to animate Dooku throwing crystals at Ventress. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:52:32 GMT -5
Any news on a possible release date? I'm guessing Fall 2019, but I'm hoping it's earlier. Everyone is saying Fall 2019 yeah. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:54:09 GMT -5
Okay he keeps talking about arcs as if they are still happening. When talking about the Wookie arc they had planned he says: "It was gonne be cool... It is gonna be great."
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:54:50 GMT -5
My prediction... these 12 episodes were being worked on for probably the past 2+ years honestly. A very small team was probably doing the animation which is why it took so long and they could have easily disguised the voice acting work with people coming in for Rebels voice acting since all the main characters that would appear in the Siege of Mandalore have appeared in Rebels at some point
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:58:27 GMT -5
My prediction... these 12 episodes were being worked on for probably the past 2+ years honestly. A very small team was probably doing the animation which is why it took so long and they could have easily disguised the voice acting work with people coming in for Rebels voice acting since all the main characters that would appear in the Siege of Mandalore have appeared in Rebels at some point I don't think they have been working on it that long to be honest. Filoni said that the first bits they animated are looking great, so it seems like those were done recently. I guess they went to work on this after they finished working on Rebels. The next animated series is going to be 2D, so it will probably be easier to do, so they could have redirected resources from Rebels to this. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:00:18 GMT -5
My prediction... these 12 episodes were being worked on for probably the past 2+ years honestly. A very small team was probably doing the animation which is why it took so long and they could have easily disguised the voice acting work with people coming in for Rebels voice acting since all the main characters that would appear in the Siege of Mandalore have appeared in Rebels at some point I don't think they have been working on it that long to be honest. Filoni said that the first bits they animated are looking great, so it seems like those were done recently. I guess they went to work on this after they finished working on Rebels. The next animated series is going to be 2D, so it will probably be easier to do, so they could have redirected resources from Rebels to this. Yeah I guess they got a lot of resources free now but I think this was in the works ever since Filonis promotion during mid season 3 of Rebels. They had to have been at least working out deals with actors to make sure to get them back before announcing this |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:02:52 GMT -5
I'm hoping they aren't counting Bad Batch or Utapau, but my guess is that it's included in the 12.
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:05:53 GMT -5
Lol my favorite reaction yet  |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 18:08:15 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 18:10:05 GMT -5
I'm hoping they aren't counting Bad Batch or Utapau, but my guess is that it's included in the 12. Well the announcement does say 12 all-new episodes. So if we take that literally those don't count. But if that is the case I think they would have said 20 newly animated episodes or something like that. Better to give the larger number. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:10:23 GMT -5
Ok at the end of season 5 Lucas said the budget per episode on average was around 1 million dollars and it frequently went over the budget... Lucas didn't mind since it was his personal project but damn you can kinda understand the appeal of not continuing. There is no way you make that kind of money back and there's no chance a different 22 minute per episode show has that kind of budget. Makes you wonder how much it costs to make a single SWTOR CGI cinematic honestly...
Remember that Jedi robes were too expensive to animate before which is why we never saw them in the original show. But Kenobi is wearing them in the trailer, so they are going all out tbh
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 18:11:29 GMT -5
Ok at the end of season 5 Lucas said the budget per episode on average was around 1 million dollars and it frequently went over the budget... Lucas didn't mind since it was his personal project but damn you can kinda understand the appeal of not continuing. There is no way you make that kind of money back and there's no chance a different 22 minute per episode show has that kind of budget. Makes you wonder how much it costs to make a single SWTOR CGI cinematic honestly... Remember that Jedi robes were too expensive to animate before which is why we never saw them in the original show. But Kenobi is wearing them in the trailer, so they are going all out tbh TCW did make money though. And also, technology got a lot better since then. So I suspect animating a robe is a lot cheaper now. Five years is a lot in tech-years. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:12:36 GMT -5
Anyone else think Anakins face looks kinda weird? Maybe it's the hair but his skin tone seems different honestly. I rewatched an episode (Crisis on Naboo) just last weekend
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:13:56 GMT -5
Ok at the end of season 5 Lucas said the budget per episode on average was around 1 million dollars and it frequently went over the budget... Lucas didn't mind since it was his personal project but damn you can kinda understand the appeal of not continuing. There is no way you make that kind of money back and there's no chance a different 22 minute per episode show has that kind of budget. Makes you wonder how much it costs to make a single SWTOR CGI cinematic honestly... Remember that Jedi robes were too expensive to animate before which is why we never saw them in the original show. But Kenobi is wearing them in the trailer, so they are going all out tbh TCW did make money though. And also, technology got a lot better since then. So I suspect animating a robe is a lot cheaper now. Five years is a lot in tech-years. I'd suspect it wasn't making enough to be considered healthy though. Maybe enough for its original budget but not enough if they were going over a lot like Lucas said. Pretty sure Lucas admitted forwards the end they were spending money per episode not making it |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 18:15:25 GMT -5
TCW did make money though. And also, technology got a lot better since then. So I suspect animating a robe is a lot cheaper now. Five years is a lot in tech-years. I'd suspect it wasn't making enough to be considered healthy though. Maybe enough for its original budget but not enough if they were going over a lot like Lucas said. Pretty sure Lucas admitted forwards the end they were spending money per episode not making it If they manage to make a profit with it now I don't see why they wouldn't do more episodes. Even if it is a small profit, it is still a profit and it is giving them goodwill with the fanbase. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:18:55 GMT -5
I'd suspect it wasn't making enough to be considered healthy though. Maybe enough for its original budget but not enough if they were going over a lot like Lucas said. Pretty sure Lucas admitted forwards the end they were spending money per episode not making it If they manage to make a profit with it now I don't see why they wouldn't do more episodes. Even if it is a small profit, it is still a profit and it is giving them goodwill with the fanbase. Profit now however would be deceptive if Bad Batch and Utapau are included in the 12 episodes. But releasing Siege of Mandalore seems like a final closure, that's the end of the show... which is why I'd want the full season like I said earlier. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:39:52 GMT -5
Ok new theory... the entire 12 episodes are not done in traditional TCW arcs format but rather in Rebels continuous story format.
All 12 episodes are basically the last few months before and during ROTS. In theory the Bad Batch arc could take place that close.... transition to Kashyyyk where we see the start of the war there or something, some other battles in the outer rim sieges before Anakin and Obi-Wan meet up with Ahsoka on Mandalore and then they leave for Coruscant.
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:41:23 GMT -5
So in other words instead of 3 different stories at random points in time it's just a large prequel right before ROTS
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 18:58:35 GMT -5
 By the way what clone is thus helmet? Just a random one or maybe one loyal to Ahsoka after Order 66... The design looks like Ahsoka face tatoos |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 19:22:43 GMT -5
To be honest The Bad Batch arc might be the biggest turning point of The Clone Wars in some peoples eyes, The Separatists lose their algorithm they been using to counter The Republic and I think the Republic gain a lot of insight into the Separatist battle plans. It's kinda like the ULTRA program during WW2 being one of the Allies keys to success.
So showing that near ROTS when things start to completely fall apart for the Separtists would make sense
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