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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 19, 2018 16:14:03 GMT -5
Yeah... I literally said the same thing at first but it's not true. I would need at least SOD, DD, and the bounty hunter arc (I need a better name for that). Here is what I need to forgive Disney: - Utapua arc (4 episodes)
- Bad Batch arc (4 episodes)
- Son of Dathomir( 4 episodes)
- Dark disciple (8 episodes)
- Siege of Mandalore (8 at least probably episodes)
- Grievous backstory (4 episodes) (They said we would get a Grievous backstory at some point)
- Bounty Hunter arc (4 episodes) (unless Disney is going to use this for a movie, I can accept that as long as Cad Bane is in it.)
- Two more arcs (8 episodes)
That's 40 episodes. I am being generous I will forgive the other 16+ they owe us. The other sixteen were probably the return of D-Squad and more episodes about Jar Jar's sex life. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:17:27 GMT -5
People on Reddit are saying the first scene in the trailer is directly form the unfinished Bad Batch arc... Another disappointment, that's not an arc we really needed to see fully animated.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:18:03 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 19, 2018 16:19:09 GMT -5
In summation, Disney didn't have to do this. I'm very glad they did. But that doesn't make any of what they did before right. So unless they fill in all the gaps, I don't intend to forgive them completely.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:19:55 GMT -5
Reddit is right. The base in this episode looks a lot like the one in the trailer:
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 19, 2018 16:22:06 GMT -5
And with that, one of the biggest jokes in pop culture was pulled. Lovely gift from Dave (kinda makes you wonder how Resistance will turn out though...), but seeing Dark Disciple adapted would've been terrific and that bounty hunters one would be boss if they include it. However, removing the rose tinted specs, you can really tell this is Disney confirming the rumours it's in damage control mode after the last hectic six months. It's a well played trick though, I have to give them that.  |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:24:35 GMT -5
So basically it looks like we are getting 8 episodes we have already seen and 4 new ones.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 19, 2018 16:29:18 GMT -5
So basically it looks like we are getting 8 episodes we have already seen and 4 new ones. Well, from the cynical view, yes, yes we are. Hopefully though the number of sharks begging for more when it hits might bring the chance of a few extras. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:33:42 GMT -5
So basically it looks like we are getting 8 episodes we have already seen and 4 new ones. Well, from the cynical view, yes, yes we are. Hopefully though the number of sharks begging for more when it hits might bring the chance of a few extras. I don't think we are getting more after the Siege of Mandalore. I think a lot of people don't even realize we were supposed to get 3 more season AT LEAST. So once they show us the Siege of Mandalore (leading directly into ROTS) most people will just assume the series is finished and stop bothering Disney about it. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:39:58 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 19, 2018 16:44:59 GMT -5
Well, they're lucky that most people don't actually know enough details to challenge them. It's kinda like politics imo.
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 16:45:37 GMT -5
Ok honestly the Crisis on Utapau arc is just amazing... honestly it's a top 3 arc for me even in story reel format. The interaction with Anakin and Kenobi is just the best in the show hands down. So having that animated will be brilliant.
The Bad Batch arc was kinda weird but it did feature Trench a lot which was cool, always been maybe my favorite Separatist. Looks like we are definitely getting that arc.
Siege of Mandalore will be the last arc and the final arc of TCW. Will be a good one no doubt.
Not getting more is kinda annoying. But thing is voice acting is fully complete for Bad Batch and Utapau so it's an easy fix to animate them. Although the Bounty Hunter arc was supposedly nearly done as well. And there's no sign of the Utapau arc in the trailer, so who knows
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:47:05 GMT -5
Ok honestly the Crisis on Utapau arc is just amazing... honestly it's a top 3 arc for me even in story reel format. The interaction with Anakin and Kenobi is just the best in the show hands down. So having that animated will be brilliant. The Bad Batch arc was kinda weird but it did feature Trench a lot which was cool, always been maybe my favorite Separatist. Looks like we are definitely getting that arc. Siege of Mandalore will be the last arc and the final arc of TCW. Will be a good one no doubt. Not getting more is kinda annoying. But thing is voice acting is fully complete for Bad Batch and Utapau so it's an easy fix to animate them. Although the Bounty Hunter arc was supposedly nearly done as well. And there's no sign of the Utapau arc in the trailer, so who knows Bounty Hunter, Son of Dathomir and Dark Disciple where all pretty much done. Would very much prefer those over the Bad Batch and Utapua. Or they should at least release those episodes as storyreels too. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 16:48:18 GMT -5
Well, they're lucky that most people don't actually know enough details to challenge them. It's kinda like politics imo. Yeah, it is how things like this work. Disney's marketing team realized it needed to do something positive for their Star Wars audience, so they did that with as little effort as possible. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:01:07 GMT -5
This is what they had planned for Ahsoka
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:04:42 GMT -5
So the Mandalore arc was not split over seasons.
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Post by Star on Jul 19, 2018 17:07:33 GMT -5
More TCW content is better than none. If it's just the 12 episodes, it definitely feels like we're being cheated, since DF had 40-50 more episodes in mind after the S5 finale. Hopefully we'll be getting the most essential stories with the highest quality. All the ones in between would be great to have, but if not, at least we should be getting the stronger episodes released.
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:07:54 GMT -5
I think the most optimal route would have been one COMPLETE season to send TCW off. Sure the show had 2.5 seasons left but that's probably just unrealistic at this point. The sad thing is after these 12 episodes air there's gonna be a lot of fan bitching for the rest. A full season to end the show and bring proper closure would prevent that I think.
Ideally I'd say we should have gotten:
Utapau Arc (4 Episodes)
Bad Batch Arc (4 Episodes)
Filler 2 Episode Arc
Bounty Hunter Arc (4 Episodes)
Dark Disciple Arc (4 Episodes)
Siege of Mandalore (4 Episodes)
Release the season in that order and you got a good conclusion to TCW. Banes story gets wrapped up, Ventress story gets wrapped up, Ahsoka, Rex and Mauls clone wars stories get wrapped up. I'm cutting Dark Disciple in half cause 8 episodes would just be unrealistic and I think it can be done in 4... Son of Dathomir got left off since I think Maul would have a big role in siege of Mandalore and I don't think we need 8 Maul episodes either. The Utapau and Bad Batch arcs get put in my default because it's just cost efficient to have them since they are so far complete.
As for the 2 episode filler, idk anything could work. I was personally really itnerested in that Vong arc but given new Disney canon that would never happen. Maybe something with Kashyyyk or the outer rim sieges would be cool. Or seeing Bendu in TCW or something.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 19, 2018 17:10:23 GMT -5
I was losing my shit watching that trailer... Yeah like mav said it seems to be them doing damage control. I don't think anyone hated TCW so bringing it back is a good PR move
And while I was losing my shit with the Clones, seeing the new models of Anakin and Obi-Wan made me lose it even more... Damn they look good. If they just animate the Utapau arc, I will be satisfied and for me anything else is a nice bonus.
Now my concern is where they will show it. Disney XD cannot be an option. It looks like they want to pull their stuff off Netflix too so... Maybe if they buy Fox they can put it on FXX idk
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:11:59 GMT -5
I think the most optimal route would have been one COMPLETE season to send TCW off. Sure the show had 2.5 seasons left but that's probably just unrealistic at this point. The sad thing is after these 12 episodes air there's gonna be a lot of fan bitching for the rest. A full season to end the show and bring proper closure would prevent that I think. Ideally I'd say we should have gotten: Utapau Arc (4 Episodes) Bad Batch Arc (4 Episodes) Filler 2 Episode Arc Bounty Hunter Arc (4 Episodes) Dark Disciple Arc (4 Episodes) Siege of Mandalore (4 Episodes) Release the season in that order and you got a good conclusion to TCW. Banes story gets wrapped up, Ventress story gets wrapped up, Ahsoka, Rex and Mauls clone wars stories get wrapped up. I'm cutting Dark Disciple in half cause 8 episodes would just be unrealistic and I think it can be done in 4... Son of Dathomir got left off since I think Maul would have a big role in siege of Mandalore and I don't think we need 8 Maul episodes either. The Utapau and Bad Batch arcs get put in my default because it's just cost efficient to have them since they are so far complete. As for the 2 episode filler, idk anything could work. I was personally really itnerested in that Vong arc but given new Disney canon that would never happen. Maybe something with Kashyyyk or the outer rim sieges would be cool. Or seeing Bendu in TCW or something. Without Son of Dathomir most fans wouldn't understand how Maul escape Sidious. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:12:34 GMT -5
I was losing my Potato Rules watching that trailer... Yeah like mav said it seems to be them doing damage control. I don't think anyone hated TCW so bringing it back is a good PR move And while I was losing my Potato Rules with the Clones, seeing the new models of Anakin and Obi-Wan made me lose it even more... Damn they look good. If they just animate the Utapau arc, I will be satisfied and for me anything else is a nice bonus. Now my concern is where they will show it. Disney XD cannot be an option. It looks like they want to pull their stuff off Netflix too so... Maybe if they buy Fox they can put it on FXX idk It's going to be on Disney's new streaming platform. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:13:45 GMT -5
Some people are now claiming "12 new episodes" means 12 episodes on top of the Bad batch and Crystal arcs being fully animated, as those are technically not new... I doubt Disney put that much thought into the statement...
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 19, 2018 17:14:08 GMT -5
I was losing my Potato Rules watching that trailer... Yeah like mav said it seems to be them doing damage control. I don't think anyone hated TCW so bringing it back is a good PR move And while I was losing my Potato Rules with the Clones, seeing the new models of Anakin and Obi-Wan made me lose it even more... Damn they look good. If they just animate the Utapau arc, I will be satisfied and for me anything else is a nice bonus. Now my concern is where they will show it. Disney XD cannot be an option. It looks like they want to pull their stuff off Netflix too so... Maybe if they buy Fox they can put it on FXX idk It's going to be on Disney's new streaming platform. Looks like it's time to put on my eyepatch and hook hand |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:15:34 GMT -5
It's going to be on Disney's new streaming platform. Looks like it's time to put on my eyepatch and hook hand Welcome to the club. Because I doubt it will be available in the Netherlands. |
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Post by Star on Jul 19, 2018 17:15:35 GMT -5
I think the most optimal route would have been one COMPLETE season to send TCW off. Sure the show had 2.5 seasons left but that's probably just unrealistic at this point. The sad thing is after these 12 episodes air there's gonna be a lot of fan bitching for the rest. A full season to end the show and bring proper closure would prevent that I think. Ideally I'd say we should have gotten: Utapau Arc (4 Episodes) Bad Batch Arc (4 Episodes) Filler 2 Episode Arc Bounty Hunter Arc (4 Episodes) Dark Disciple Arc (4 Episodes) Siege of Mandalore (4 Episodes) Release the season in that order and you got a good conclusion to TCW. Banes story gets wrapped up, Ventress story gets wrapped up, Ahsoka, Rex and Mauls clone wars stories get wrapped up. I'm cutting Dark Disciple in half cause 8 episodes would just be unrealistic and I think it can be done in 4... Son of Dathomir got left off since I think Maul would have a big role in siege of Mandalore and I don't think we need 8 Maul episodes either. The Utapau and Bad Batch arcs get put in my default because it's just cost efficient to have them since they are so far complete. As for the 2 episode filler, idk anything could work. I was personally really itnerested in that Vong arc but given new Disney canon that would never happen. Maybe something with Kashyyyk or the outer rim sieges would be cool. Or seeing Bendu in TCW or something. I think that sounds realistic and satisfying. Even though I never complained much about the "filler" episodes of TCW, I'm sure that 2.5 more seasons would've still given us more of them like the Droid and Youngling arcs. I liked that they gave more expansion to the series, but I'm fine passing up on them too to allow us to see the major stories. I agree 8 Maul episodes would be too much. We don't need him "taking over" the show in its final seasons. Another alternative would be cutting the Bounty Hunter arc (under the theory that there will be a bounty hunter anthology film) and replacing it with more episodes centered on Outer Rim Sieges or the Force (i.e. Mortis and Yoda arcs). |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:15:37 GMT -5
I think the most optimal route would have been one COMPLETE season to send TCW off. Sure the show had 2.5 seasons left but that's probably just unrealistic at this point. The sad thing is after these 12 episodes air there's gonna be a lot of fan bitching for the rest. A full season to end the show and bring proper closure would prevent that I think. Ideally I'd say we should have gotten: Utapau Arc (4 Episodes) Bad Batch Arc (4 Episodes) Filler 2 Episode Arc Bounty Hunter Arc (4 Episodes) Dark Disciple Arc (4 Episodes) Siege of Mandalore (4 Episodes) Release the season in that order and you got a good conclusion to TCW. Banes story gets wrapped up, Ventress story gets wrapped up, Ahsoka, Rex and Mauls clone wars stories get wrapped up. I'm cutting Dark Disciple in half cause 8 episodes would just be unrealistic and I think it can be done in 4... Son of Dathomir got left off since I think Maul would have a big role in siege of Mandalore and I don't think we need 8 Maul episodes either. The Utapau and Bad Batch arcs get put in my default because it's just cost efficient to have them since they are so far complete. As for the 2 episode filler, idk anything could work. I was personally really itnerested in that Vong arc but given new Disney canon that would never happen. Maybe something with Kashyyyk or the outer rim sieges would be cool. Or seeing Bendu in TCW or something. Without Son of Dathomir most fans wouldn't understand how Maul escape Sidious. That literally happended in like 2 pages of the first comic of son of Dathomir... it wasn't anything special. They could literally have the Narrator say something in the first 30 episodes and it would be enough. I don't think Son of Dathomir matters much for story comprehension between Season 5 Maul arc and Siege of Mandalore. And I wouldn't want 8 Maul centric episodes if we were only getting one season in my scenario. Especially since the story of TCW doesn't revolve around Maul and he arguably shouldn't have been in TCW in the first place really. It's good that he's there but 8 episodes would be too much. I cut Ventress stuff in half as well, only fair to cut Maul stuff in half |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:16:03 GMT -5
That pun though
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Post by Pinda on Jul 19, 2018 17:16:45 GMT -5
Without Son of Dathomir most fans wouldn't understand how Maul escape Sidious. That literally happended in like 2 pages of the first comic of son of Dathomir... it wasn't anything special. They could literally have the Narrator say something in the first 30 episodes and it would be enough. I don't think Son of Dathomir matters much for story comprehension between Season 5 Maul arc and Siege of Mandalore. And I wouldn't want 8 Maul centric episodes if we were only getting one season in my scenario. Especially since the story of TCW doesn't revolve around Maul and he arguably shouldn't have been in TCW in the first place really. It's good that he's there but 8 episodes would be too much. I cut Ventress stuff in half as well, only fair to cut Maul stuff in half It matters. Talzin is another loose end that gets resolved in that arc. They could shorten the arc, but that confrontation between Sidious and Talzin needs to be animated. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:17:14 GMT -5
Tbh it will probabalt be available on like ITunes and stuff as well, just not on TV
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Post by Newan on Jul 19, 2018 17:18:19 GMT -5
That literally happended in like 2 pages of the first comic of son of Dathomir... it wasn't anything special. They could literally have the Narrator say something in the first 30 episodes and it would be enough. I don't think Son of Dathomir matters much for story comprehension between Season 5 Maul arc and Siege of Mandalore. And I wouldn't want 8 Maul centric episodes if we were only getting one season in my scenario. Especially since the story of TCW doesn't revolve around Maul and he arguably shouldn't have been in TCW in the first place really. It's good that he's there but 8 episodes would be too much. I cut Ventress stuff in half as well, only fair to cut Maul stuff in half It matters. Talzin is another loose end that gets resolved in that arc. They could shorten the arc, but that confrontation between Sidious and Talzin needs to be animated. She was never as important or prominent as Bane, Ventress, Rex or Ahsoka though. I think the comic is honestly enough for now. |
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