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Post by Newan on Jul 8, 2016 18:08:25 GMT -5
Jhin seems to want to give our Inspector the best protection he can have, which seems loyal to me. However, I don't like the idea of claiming a loyal helper role and scoffing at anyone that says you could be lying. Honestly a claim like that means nothing. Well the inspector has only made like 2 comments today, I been trying not to comment much but it may just hurt us by forcing myself to not discuss idk... The claim doesn't have to mean anything... I suggested easily the best course of action today. Let Frank have the best protection, I'll get second. Frank can freely inspect one of the less actives, while the two most active are protected. Protector can protect himself though he hasn't contacted Frank it seems, I suspect the protector likely isn't allowed to reveal himself anyways. Star will likely die for not posting, I believe if I get the 50% the scum will likely chance it and try to kill me... Makes sense. If successful they kill the most active loyal. If they fail then they lose nothing really, could be the same tomorrow unless Frank has a good inspection. If we do a random vote and kill a loyal then the scum win today no matter what happens tonight. I don't mind dying tonight if it happens, it happens I already passed all my thoughts on. Anyways I'm not going to reply to this since I want Frank to not get too far behind. PM me if you really want to talk...
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Post by Newan on Jul 8, 2016 18:09:14 GMT -5
They will do that either way... Even if the murderer dies it will get passed on.And Star (idk his characters name) is likely going to die anyways since he hasn't posted. Better to not risk 3 loyal deaths. Uhm... how would you know that? It's obvious and always happens... If you want to use that against me you must be pretty desperate...
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Post by Pinda on Jul 8, 2016 18:12:02 GMT -5
Uhm... how would you know that? It's obvious and always happens... If you want to use that against me you must be pretty desperate... It doesn't always happen, there have been lots of games were after the murderer died no one got assassinated, especially in the smaller games. I'm not using it against you, but you are making claims without any proof to support them, unless you are scum and you were told this by Spider (not saying you are).
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Post by bane on Jul 8, 2016 18:13:18 GMT -5
Saul Goodman: great all around guy, real a stand up indavidual Jhin: Seems to want to connect himself with our inspector and appear loyal by making sure they both get protected, claims loyal helper which can't be proven. Also doesn't want to vote at all and has make what I think is a somewhat premature decision given we still have five hours. Raccoon Man: Agreed with what Yorick said about how not voting isn't a great idea (only thing he's really said so far) Yorick: Does not agree with Jhin getting the protection, which I agree with. Frank: Claimed a standard loyal role and hasn't been argued with about it. Nothing more to say. Rock: Accused me for some reason, still waiting to hear why. Branches: hasn't said anything Darrell: hasn't said anything Read more: theambushgames.boards.net/thread/981/carrot-day-1-potato-mission#ixzz4DrSgvbyb
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Post by bane on Jul 8, 2016 18:21:51 GMT -5
I would encourage anyone with a loyal role to PM Nam, it's probably too late, but I would rather they get the protection over a "loyal helper."
It seems like a loyal move, but rushing ahead in post count and making sure everyone sees you looking over your shoulder at Frank (Inspector) to make sure he catches up doesn't mean you're loyal at all, since it makes you look loyal to worry about the Inspector.
EDIT: If you wanna respond to this Jhin, then you can PM everyone or something. Sorry but I wanted everyone to see this cause I think it's a good point.
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Post by Potato on Jul 8, 2016 18:41:45 GMT -5
I think Jhin's idea of waiting out Day 1 is a smart idea, but if I had to vote, I guess I'd vote either Raccoon Man or Saul. They're pretty middle grounded with their number of posts (to be fair, so am I). I think the scum won't try to be super active, but they also definitely won't barely post. Point me to a post when I'm middle grounded? There hasn't really been anything to pick a side about so yeah I guess I have been middle grounded in my banter. I meant with post number. It's not enough to convict someone, but it's enough for me to vote for that person if I had a gun to my head like the scenario Frank described. I don't have a gun to my head though, so I don't plan on voting anyone yet.
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Post by Potato on Jul 8, 2016 18:44:22 GMT -5
VOTE: NONE
Yorick, since the ratio of loyals to scum is so favorable to the loyals at this point, it's far more likely that the person we convict will be loyal. Because if we voted anyone today, it'd be pretty close to a random vote. By tomorrow, someone may be dead, yes, but it limits the number of suspects (and it doesn't do it too suddenly; convicting someone and someone being murdered would dwindle our numbers too fast). Plus, Frank will hopefully be able to give us something out of his inspection results. It's just too soon to rush into things.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 8, 2016 18:46:34 GMT -5
So how does a none vote work? Does it just register as "did vote but vote doesn't count" or is it a separate vote entirely? Like if 3 people vote NONE and one person votes PERSON A will PERSON A still get convicted? This is kind of important to know before I will vote for anything. Spidyyr
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Post by Pinda on Jul 8, 2016 18:49:55 GMT -5
VOTE: NONE Yorick, since the ratio of loyals to scum is so favorable to the loyals at this point, it's far more likely that the person we convict will be loyal. Because if we voted anyone today, it'd be pretty close to a random vote. By tomorrow, someone may be dead, yes, but it limits the number of suspects (and it doesn't do it too suddenly; convicting someone and someone being murdered would dwindle our numbers too fast). Plus, Frank will hopefully be able to give us something out of his inspection results. It's just too soon to rush into things. I don't know... I really don't think it's the best idea. It's very likely we will lose one person due to inactivity today. Let's assume that person is not scum, because if he was the scum would be pretty much screwed after one day anyway. Let's assume that person is loyal and another loyal is murdered tonight... that will leave us with 2 loyalists down and still no clues. Sure, we can hope for Frank to get some results... but what if he doesn't find anything useful? Will we just vote NONE again? Since we would be in the same situation, and once again we would allow the scum to get away with a free kill during that night...
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Post by Potato on Jul 8, 2016 19:09:06 GMT -5
VOTE: NONE Yorick, since the ratio of loyals to scum is so favorable to the loyals at this point, it's far more likely that the person we convict will be loyal. Because if we voted anyone today, it'd be pretty close to a random vote. By tomorrow, someone may be dead, yes, but it limits the number of suspects (and it doesn't do it too suddenly; convicting someone and someone being murdered would dwindle our numbers too fast). Plus, Frank will hopefully be able to give us something out of his inspection results. It's just too soon to rush into things. I don't know... I really don't think it's the best idea. It's very likely we will lose one person due to inactivity today. Let's assume that person is not scum, because if he was the scum would be pretty much screwed after one day anyway. Let's assume that person is loyal and another loyal is murdered tonight... that will leave us with 2 loyalists down and still no clues. Sure, we can hope for Frank to get some results... but what if he doesn't find anything useful? Will we just vote NONE again? Since we would be in the same situation, and once again we would allow the scum to get away with a free kill during that night... And if we make a bad decision then we'll lose three loyalists... we'll at least have a more solid idea of who to go for if we wait it out a little longer.
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Post by bane on Jul 8, 2016 19:24:01 GMT -5
This "three loyalists dying" hinges on star not posting in the next ~4 hours, someone getting murdered, and a loyal getting voted off. Do any of these things need to happen? It's not like we have a good choice of who to vote for, but voting for no one with time left is kinda questionable in my opinion. I'll wait until late to vote since I'll be on all night.
I don't have any suspects beyond those who I have already mentioned before.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 8, 2016 19:24:19 GMT -5
PindaVoting NONE work as so if more people vote NONE than for any given person, no one will be convicted.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 8, 2016 19:27:03 GMT -5
Vote tally: None - 2
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 8, 2016 20:46:08 GMT -5
VOTE NONE
I like joining bandwagons
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 20:56:37 GMT -5
Why do I feel a little suspicious of Saul?
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 20:57:32 GMT -5
Saul seems oddly middle-grounded and defensive. IDK. We could still vote none but IDK.
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 20:58:20 GMT -5
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Post by Newan on Jul 8, 2016 21:11:59 GMT -5
Going to make one comment here...
So Yorick, Raccoon man and Saul why did none of you guys vote?? For all your wanting to push a vote and just waiting instead of taking the initiative... I honestly expected none of you to vote though... Don't want to draw attention to yourselves without having the numbers on your side. Typical careful scum behavior right here. I suggest these are the 3 we look at tomorrow, I'm willing to bet at least one is scum.
I'm not sure Saul directly denied the no vote but like others said he's been very middle grounded, not wanting to say much. Raccoon however came and followed Yoricks voting sentiments right away... Didn't vote himself.
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 21:12:54 GMT -5
BUT maybe we should vote for none and see where this goes. IDK. It's too risky. I don't trust any of y'all.
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 21:13:46 GMT -5
Going to make one comment here... So Yorick, Raccoon man and Saul why did none of you guys vote?? For all your wanting to push a vote and just waiting instead of taking the initiative... I honestly expected none of you to vote though... Don't want to draw attention to yourselves without having the numbers on your side. Typical careful scum behavior right here. I suggest these are the 3 we look at tomorrow, I'm willing to bet at least one is scum. I'm not sure Saul directly denied the no vote but like others said he's been very middle grounded, not wanting to say much. Raccoon however came and followed Yoricks voting sentiments right away... Didn't vote himself. That's true. It's like they all have a motive. what is this.
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 21:19:16 GMT -5
Okay
VOTE: NONE
I want to see who dies tonight.
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 21:23:41 GMT -5
also i want most posts
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Post by bane on Jul 8, 2016 21:36:31 GMT -5
Namialus Don't know how I'm "middle grounded" when I"m literally the only person taht has accused anyone (I've been accusing Newan if you haven't been reading)
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Post by bane on Jul 8, 2016 21:40:55 GMT -5
Saul Goodman: great all around guy, real a stand up indavidual Jhin: Seems to want to connect himself with our inspector and appear loyal by making sure they both get protected, claims loyal helper which can't be proven. Also doesn't want to vote at all and has make what I think is a somewhat premature decision given we still have five hours. Raccoon Man: Agreed with what Yorick said about how not voting isn't a great idea (only thing he's really said so far) Yorick: Does not agree with Jhin getting the protection, which I agree with. Frank: Claimed a standard loyal role and hasn't been argued with about it. Nothing more to say. Rock: Accused me for some reason, still waiting to hear why. Branches: hasn't said anything Darrell: hasn't said anything Read more: theambushgames.boards.net/thread/981/carrot-day-1-potato-mission#ixzz4DrSgvbybwell there's this I would encourage anyone with a loyal role to PM Nam, it's probably too late, but I would rather they get the protection over a "loyal helper." It seems like a loyal move, but rushing ahead in post count and making sure everyone sees you looking over your shoulder at Frank (Inspector) to make sure he catches up doesn't mean you're loyal at all, since it makes you look loyal to worry about the Inspector. EDIT: If you wanna respond to this Jhin, then you can PM everyone or something. Sorry but I wanted everyone to see this cause I think it's a good point. and this This "three loyalists dying" hinges on star not posting in the next ~4 hours, someone getting murdered, and a loyal getting voted off. Do any of these things need to happen? It's not like we have a good choice of who to vote for, but voting for no one with time left is kinda questionable in my opinion. I'll wait until late to vote since I'll be on all night. I don't have any suspects beyond those who I have already mentioned before. and this Going to make one comment here... So Yorick, Raccoon man and Saul why did none of you guys vote?? For all your wanting to push a vote and just waiting instead of taking the initiative... I honestly expected none of you to vote though... Don't want to draw attention to yourselves without having the numbers on your side. Typical careful scum behavior right here. I suggest these are the 3 we look at tomorrow, I'm willing to bet at least one is scum. I'm not sure Saul directly denied the no vote but like others said he's been very middle grounded, not wanting to say much. Raccoon however came and followed Yoricks voting sentiments right away... Didn't vote himself. I don't know how I'm "not wanting to say too much." I posted all this stuff, and you didn't respond to any of it. That is not middle grounded, I've been the person making the most accusations actually.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 8, 2016 21:42:03 GMT -5
Alright, voting is closed. No one will be convicted.
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Post by Newan on Jul 8, 2016 21:44:25 GMT -5
Alright, voting is closed. No one will be convicted. So Nam finished first right? He was at 61 and I was at 60 before this comment of course
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Post by bane on Jul 8, 2016 21:49:58 GMT -5
I have been waiting to vote because 1) I wanted more discussion first which has happened. And 2) Because I was waiting for Newan to respond to some of my accusations. He has purposefully waited forever, just to make me look middle grounded since time is running out and I haven't voted. Basically just ran out the clock on me. So what am I supposed to do now, vote for someone that won't respond to my accusations or explain himself? Or maybe just jump on the bandwagon like the tree? Wouldn't that make me look like more of a middle grounded sheep that doesn't want to say too much? He seems to have been overlooked.
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Post by Newan on Jul 8, 2016 21:55:56 GMT -5
I have been waiting to vote because 1) I wanted more discussion first which has happened. And 2) Because I was waiting for Newan to respond to some of my accusations. He has purposefully waited forever, just to make me look middle grounded since time is running out and I haven't voted. Basically just ran out the clock on me. So what am I supposed to do now, vote for someone that won't respond to my accusations or explain himself? Or maybe just jump on the bandwagon like the tree? Wouldn't that make me look like more of a middle grounded sheep that doesn't want to say too much? He seems to have been overlooked. Didn't respond because I wanted Frank to pass me, I said this since last night and said I'd only respond if I felt I had to. Edit: idk if the day is over and I just passed him by 1... Nam was ahead when voting ended so I'm not going to respond
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 22:04:57 GMT -5
I WIN
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Post by Namialus on Jul 8, 2016 22:05:19 GMT -5
Namialus Don't know how I'm "middle grounded" when I"m literally the only person taht has accused anyone (I've been accusing Newan if you haven't been reading) ok bby do not worry we will see
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