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Post by Pinda on Jul 3, 2020 9:34:49 GMT -5
There’s rumors the sequels will be removed from canon... As much as I hope they are true, I highly doubt they have the guts to do it. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 3, 2020 10:25:08 GMT -5
There’s rumors the sequels will be removed from canon... Yeah I keep seeing that stuff but I think it's bs coming from unreliable sources. I don't see them decanonizing 1/3 of their "Skywalker Saga" which got an "epic conclusion" with TROS At the same time the sequels are kind of whatever and like 30 years after the main saga aka prequels and originals which are great and a lot more connected to each other. I actually quite liked Hans death, but Luke’s was awful. Battlefront 2 portrayed Luke very well imo. Leia death was understandable cause real life stuff. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 3, 2020 10:30:57 GMT -5
Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Revenge of the Sith
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Solo
(Mandalorian)
The Force Awakens
The Phantom Menance
Rise of Skywalker
Attack of the Clones
The Last Jedi
I think that’s how I feel about every movie. The first two are pretty set in stone for me. ROTS and Rogue One are almost interchangeable but ROTJ is definitely below both. Solo is a fun film imo, I liked it. The force awakens is better than everything below it on the list and I didn’t mind it not being as original since it was the first of the sequels plus I liked Harrison a lot in that one.
AOTC is just... that love plot and script are too bad to this day. I’ve grown to like TPM a bit more as I’ve gotten older but that movie still has a lot of plot holes and weird pacing. Rise of Skywalker is fairly close not gonna lie. But overall for me there’s a drop after solo. If you want to add Mandalorian in it’s probably right after Solo to rank all live action content.
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Post by Newan on Jul 3, 2020 10:32:34 GMT -5
Clone wars and Rebels just have too much content and plots to add to that list. Mandalorian is once fairly focused story focusing on one character.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 3, 2020 11:55:26 GMT -5
Lol bruh what sequels above TPM and AOTC.. I mean to each their own I guess lol. I can't even count sequels as canon though because of how much lore they destroy. Not a single frame of TROS makes sense I can't believe how bad it is... And easily the most lore unfriendly of the three
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 10, 2020 7:17:40 GMT -5
Forced myself to watch TFA again last night... Idk if I want to get in to why it's bad there's a lot to breakdown lol. But I will just just say this, maybe something you guys hadn't thought about.
Why does Starkiller Base need the ability to destroy planets when removing the sun already destroys the system.......
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 10, 2020 7:46:19 GMT -5
Forced myself to watch TFA again last night... Idk if I want to get in to why it's bad there's a lot to breakdown lol. But I will just just say this, maybe something you guys hadn't thought about. Why does Starkiller Base need the ability to destroy planets when removing the sun already destroys the system....... How does removing the sun that it’s orbiting not fling Starkiller base into a different galaxy? |
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Post by Newan on Jul 11, 2020 23:34:28 GMT -5
 You know it’s kind of shocking how much stupid shit can get traced back to Mundi.... |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 12, 2020 12:26:18 GMT -5
A New Hope: Fun
The Empire Strikes Back: Chilling
Return of the Jedi: Satisfying
The Phantom Menace: Innovative
Attack of the Clones: Confused
Revenge of the Sith: Epic
Clone Wars: Serviceable
The Clone Wars: Masterful
The Force Awakens: Redundant
Rebels: Passable
Rogue One: Disappointing
The Mandalorian: Empty
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 12, 2020 14:12:39 GMT -5
I think the best we can hope for now is more stuff like R1 and Mando... I don’t think we’re gonna see George’s imagination again.
Tbh both those things are super close to replicating elements of the OT in an authentic way. It’s just story, characters, and themes that is kinda weak I think. But whatever I think if it doesn’t break the lore and doesn’t have stupid cringey stuff, I’ll take it
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 22, 2020 10:48:38 GMT -5
If people have pretended for twenty years that’s the prequels don’t exist then it should be completely acceptable to ignore shit like the Star Wars sequels, Thirteenth Doctor, Last of Us Part 2, etc.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 22, 2020 11:36:35 GMT -5
If people have pretended for twenty years that’s the prequels don’t exist then it should be completely acceptable to ignore shit like the Star Wars sequels, Thirteenth Doctor, Last of Us Part 2, etc. I already repress their sequels from my memory but yeah Disney needs to just completely quarantine that time period and ignore it. No more sequel stories or merch and no mention of or reference to what already exists. Maybe they could even do some alternate dark timeline shit incorporating the world between worlds... Idk I'm not a big fan of that kind of stuff for Star Wars but if it will save the post ROTJ era, fuck it it might work |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 22, 2020 12:01:28 GMT -5
If people have pretended for twenty years that’s the prequels don’t exist then it should be completely acceptable to ignore shit like the Star Wars sequels, Thirteenth Doctor, Last of Us Part 2, etc. I already repress their sequels from my memory but yeah Disney needs to just completely quarantine that time period and ignore it. No more sequel stories or merch and no mention of or reference to what already exists. Maybe they could even do some alternate dark timeline shit incorporating the world between worlds... Idk I'm not a big fan of that kind of stuff for Star Wars but if it will save the post ROTJ era, fuck it it might work I'm not sure why they went through all the trouble of introducing that. It was cool I guess but it really didn't factor in to the rest of the season. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 22, 2020 13:03:41 GMT -5
I already repress their sequels from my memory but yeah Disney needs to just completely quarantine that time period and ignore it. No more sequel stories or merch and no mention of or reference to what already exists. Maybe they could even do some alternate dark timeline shit incorporating the world between worlds... Idk I'm not a big fan of that kind of stuff for Star Wars but if it will save the post ROTJ era, fuck it it might work I'm not sure why they went through all the trouble of introducing that. It was cool I guess but it really didn't factor in to the rest of the season. Because Dave really needed a copout for Ahsoka to live, despite dying by Vader feeling the most natural end for her. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 22, 2020 13:16:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure why they went through all the trouble of introducing that. It was cool I guess but it really didn't factor in to the rest of the season. Because Dave really needed a copout for Ahsoka to live, despite dying by Vader feeling the most natural end for her. Yup that’s it. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 22, 2020 17:14:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure why they went through all the trouble of introducing that. It was cool I guess but it really didn't factor in to the rest of the season. Because Dave really needed a copout for Ahsoka to live, despite dying by Vader feeling the most natural end for her. I used to say this but someone changed my mind. It would have been super easy to retcon Ahsoka's "death" by keeping her alive. In that episode her last shot is her walking through the temple/cave thing and disappearing. I remember at the time people debated whether she escaped or collapsed in there or something. In actuality that was her returning from the WBW but even without that I think it would be pretty easy to just say oh yeah she got away |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 23, 2020 3:21:58 GMT -5
Because Dave really needed a copout for Ahsoka to live, despite dying by Vader feeling the most natural end for her. I used to say this but someone changed my mind. It would have been super easy to retcon Ahsoka's "death" by keeping her alive. In that episode her last shot is her walking through the temple/cave thing and disappearing. I remember at the time people debated whether she escaped or collapsed in there or something. In actuality that was her returning from the WBW but even without that I think it would be pretty easy to just say oh yeah she got away Still, I think the whole time travel stuff was just overkill in what they wanted to achieve. There are other ways besides the mother of all copouts that is time travel, which I'm still not sure really belongs in Star Wars. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 23, 2020 10:42:32 GMT -5
I used to say this but someone changed my mind. It would have been super easy to retcon Ahsoka's "death" by keeping her alive. In that episode her last shot is her walking through the temple/cave thing and disappearing. I remember at the time people debated whether she escaped or collapsed in there or something. In actuality that was her returning from the WBW but even without that I think it would be pretty easy to just say oh yeah she got away Still, I think the whole time travel stuff was just overkill in what they wanted to achieve. There are other ways besides the mother of all copouts that is time travel, which I'm still not sure really belongs in Star Wars. Not opposed to the idea but they need to justify its existence. The World Between Worlds just felt like a weird detour that barely connected with anything going on in the endgame of Rebels. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 23, 2020 18:01:01 GMT -5
If people have pretended for twenty years that’s the prequels don’t exist then it should be completely acceptable to ignore shit like the Star Wars sequels, Thirteenth Doctor, Last of Us Part 2, etc. Last of Us part 2 is actually pretty good, I played it fully, As for Rogue One, I’m just curious but what expectations/ hype did it set that made it disappointing for you? I honestly thought it was a pretty good film and had a lot of interesting dynamics for both the Empire and Rebellion. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 23, 2020 18:52:13 GMT -5
If people have pretended for twenty years that’s the prequels don’t exist then it should be completely acceptable to ignore shit like the Star Wars sequels, Thirteenth Doctor, Last of Us Part 2, etc. Last of Us part 2 is actually pretty good, I played it fully, As for Rogue One, I’m just curious but what expectations/ hype did it set that made it disappointing for you? I honestly thought it was a pretty good film and had a lot of interesting dynamics for both the Empire and Rebellion. I just didn’t connect with any of the characters. Like I guess Jyn and Cassian were fine but nothing special. But the other characters just were given so little development that I felt nothing while watching their various melodramatic deaths. And I was very disappointed with Saw’s role in the movie. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 23, 2020 18:54:00 GMT -5
I guess it’s technically not a bad film but it just rang hollow for me.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 23, 2020 19:10:18 GMT -5
I wish maybe the movie had focused on fewer characters. The pacing in the first half of the movie definitely took me out of it as well.
I like the concept of the movie, which is more than I can say for almost everything else Disney has released, but I think it needed a few more rewrites.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 24, 2020 10:39:17 GMT -5
  New Hot Toys General Skywalker was recently revealed. I've always thought Hot Toys were kinda overrated. Like their Clone troopers and even Iron Man suits I've seen look pretty good. But for example all the Jedi characters they've done look really strange. Their tunics just make them look really fat and stocky and in general make them seem to have odd proportions. I don't think this one is perfect either but it's like the first one that's made me think damn that looks dope. Don't think the Obi-Wan will be as good but he hasn't been revealed yet. I'm not really considering getting this but they're actually not as expensive as I thought. The STAP set is $385 which is kinda high but the standard is "only" $260. I mean I don't think it's worth it. And frankly I think having a huge ass doll in your house might seem kinda weird to people lol... Which is the main reason I would never get one. If Hasbro makes 6" versions of him and Obi that will be an instant buy for me though, the early TCW outfits are really nostalgic for me. Here's the link to the gallery. Kinda weird he's not coming out for two years though lol www.sideshow.com/collectibles/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-and-stap-hot-toys-906795?var=9067951 |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 28, 2020 16:55:06 GMT -5
I wonder if Dave Filoni saw how Doctor Who just used time travel to pull Clara out of the moment of her death and did the same exact thing for Ahsoka.
We know he’s a fan of the show.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 22, 2020 16:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 6, 2020 5:11:36 GMT -5
Much as I agree with some of what he said (a lot of which we've complained about), I think John Boyega somewhat shot himself in the foot with that interview. Just came off as a bit entitled and spoilt... I mean, you could blame Johnson for sidelining you in the first place, you could've even said something like Mark Hamill did about Luke druing the press runs, but instead you go blaming the company that paid you millions and showed support for your BLM protest.
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 6, 2020 8:01:48 GMT -5
Much as I agree with some of what he said (a lot of which we've complained about), I think John Boyega somewhat shot himself in the foot with that interview. Just came off as a bit entitled and spoilt... I mean, you could blame Johnson for sidelining you in the first place, you could've even said something like Mark Hamill did about Luke druing the press runs, but instead you go blaming the company that paid you millions and showed support for your BLM protest. I think he was more calling out Disney for being racist. He saw Finn as being turned into a sort of token character. I think Disney had a hand in sidelining the character because they wanted to appeal to the Chinese audience. There is a comparison between TFA posters that was going around showing how on the Chinese version, Finn was almost not visible I do think he is burning too many bridges though. Obviously he doesn't seem to care but like even if he cuts off from Disney, other companies might be wary of working with him not knowing if he would turn on them also. Not sure he's made enough money to retire lol But it is kind of refreshing to see a celebrity forget about the money, stop the fake bullshit and be 100% real about what he feels |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 6, 2020 10:42:34 GMT -5
Much as I agree with some of what he said (a lot of which we've complained about), I think John Boyega somewhat shot himself in the foot with that interview. Just came off as a bit entitled and spoilt... I mean, you could blame Johnson for sidelining you in the first place, you could've even said something like Mark Hamill did about Luke druing the press runs, but instead you go blaming the company that paid you millions and showed support for your BLM protest. I think he was more calling out Disney for being racist. He saw Finn as being turned into a sort of token character. I think Disney had a hand in sidelining the character because they wanted to appeal to the Chinese audience. There is a comparison between TFA posters that was going around showing how on the Chinese version, Finn was almost not visible I do think he is burning too many bridges though. Obviously he doesn't seem to care but like even if he cuts off from Disney, other companies might be wary of working with him not knowing if he would turn on them also. Not sure he's made enough money to retire lol But it is kind of refreshing to see a celebrity forget about the money, stop the fake bullshit and be 100% real about what he feels I do agree, Finn's character pretty much lost all interest after TFA. Would've been cool to see him be force sensitive too, but instead we just got Rey... My main problem is pretty much crapping all over a company that showed you support for your cause. I mean, I'm not Disney's side, since I'm pretty much against corporations getting so big and influential, but what he said could've been slightly less strongly worded. True, he could pull a Rupert Grint and make millions off property investment  That's also true, but I still feel he should've been more specific on who needed blaming. LucasFilm, Kathleen Kennedy, Rian Johnson and maybe even Abrams had a big hand in what happened. Although he did defend Abrams, so maybe LucasFilm forced him to steer TROS a certain way. |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 6, 2020 14:59:24 GMT -5
I think he was more calling out Disney for being racist. He saw Finn as being turned into a sort of token character. I think Disney had a hand in sidelining the character because they wanted to appeal to the Chinese audience. There is a comparison between TFA posters that was going around showing how on the Chinese version, Finn was almost not visible I do think he is burning too many bridges though. Obviously he doesn't seem to care but like even if he cuts off from Disney, other companies might be wary of working with him not knowing if he would turn on them also. Not sure he's made enough money to retire lol But it is kind of refreshing to see a celebrity forget about the money, stop the fake bullshit and be 100% real about what he feels I do agree, Finn's character pretty much lost all interest after TFA. Would've been cool to see him be force sensitive too, but instead we just got Rey... My main problem is pretty much crapping all over a company that showed you support for your cause. I mean, I'm not Disney's side, since I'm pretty much against corporations getting so big and influential, but what he said could've been slightly less strongly worded. True, he could pull a Rupert Grint and make millions off property investment That's also true, but I still feel he should've been more specific on who needed blaming. LucasFilm, Kathleen Kennedy, Rian Johnson and maybe even Abrams had a big hand in what happened. Although he did defend Abrams, so maybe LucasFilm forced him to steer TROS a certain way. I mean I kinda get it, actions speak louder than words. Disney tweeting about BLM or whatever isn't really a significant contribution in my eyes and also their poor treatment of a black character gives a stronger message about what Disney is really all about. I think that's what Boyega is trying to get at. Like yeah they said "we stand with you" but apparently that wasn't very meaningful to him. And tbh I'd probably agree corporate pr on these topics is worthless lol. And it's probably better to just say Disney instead of calling out particular individuals. Though I think he threw massive shade at Rian because according to him, JJ had to come in to fix Rian's shit lol |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Oct 17, 2020 6:55:42 GMT -5
Some new Star wars book by Pablo Hidalgo is claiming George was going to kill Luke in VIII as well. First off, I feel like he'd do a better job at that (not like TLJ set the bar oh so high on that one) and secondly I'm not sure I really believe it. It could just be a means of means of deflecting some TLJ criticism by saying George would've done the same thing, or for all we know it could've been one of those ideas he had floating around, but wouldn't really use anyway. I mean that happened a LOT when he was making the saga.
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