|
|
Post by Newan on Mar 7, 2015 2:13:08 GMT -5
Criteria was more than one episode and at least have a pretty big role  Anyways voted Umbara I thought the concept was pretty cool but I never understood why they had to wear gas masks on their own planet lol you think the clones would be affected by it... Mortis was also cool and I looked it up Wookiepedia has it classified as a planet |
|
|
|
Post by Kenbo on Mar 7, 2015 13:28:44 GMT -5
Have to go with Coruscant I've always liked it and I think it sort of fits with the "futuristic" Sci fi setting that Star Wars is in
I feelclike we would've seen Cloud City some time as well that might've also been cool
|
|
|
|
Post by Star on Mar 7, 2015 21:04:48 GMT -5
Dathomir, Mandalore, and Umbara were pretty cool. So was Mortis. Coruscant is a classic as well and I love everything about it from the Temple to the Underworld. I think I'll go with Coruscant just because I loved all scenes that occurred there (particularly the Underworld ones --- TCW did a great job expanding on the planet), although Dathomir would be close behind.
|
|
|
|
Post by Newan on Mar 8, 2015 3:02:26 GMT -5
Obviously pretty opinion based but these are some of the best ones I could think of that are not like episode specific like we could all vote Sunny day in the void but we already did that Another one is Plo Koon always being the guy to save the jedi... Anyways I'll probably vote Echo. It's just not logical. |
|
|
|
Post by Kenbo on Mar 8, 2015 9:11:00 GMT -5
Echo's more logical than Maul imo I went with Barriss though didn't really like that... Second choice would've been bringing Ahsoka back |
|
|
|
Post by Star on Mar 8, 2015 9:23:05 GMT -5
Savage wasn't really underdeveloped, he just didn't do much after Revenge. His great character just stopped developing for the most part. That was pretty disappointing, because I liked him a lot. The Deception arc conclusion was pretty weak in comparison to the rest of the arc and what it could've been, but it was still a decent episode and not worth my vote for this. For me, it comes down between Grievous being portrayed as too weak and Barriss being underdeveloped as a villain. I'll go with Barriss. It felt really strange to me to have er as the villain even though it was predictable she was the bad guy early on. Hopefully in the last couple seasons of the show, we would've seen Grievous step up his game as a antagonist and actually kill some more Jedi that are experienced (not just ones like Nadar Vebb). If we had gotten the Coruscant battle as the conclusion too, seeing Grievous in action there would've been great as well.
|
|
|
|
Post by Spidyyr on Mar 8, 2015 11:36:51 GMT -5
I agree with what Star said about Savage. After Brothers he was basically Maul's attack dog. I hoped to see me development from him or maybe returning to his old, noble self. |
|
|
|
Post by Spidyyr on Mar 8, 2015 11:39:58 GMT -5
Like it would have been cool to see Savage differ from Maul or maybe even betray him as he started to remember his old self.
|
|
|
|
Post by Newan on Mar 8, 2015 11:51:39 GMT -5
Well that's kind of what I meant with Savage
|
|
|
|
Post by bobafett590 on Mar 8, 2015 12:04:21 GMT -5
Grievous being portrayed as weak was one of the most retarded decisions ever. While Grievous was too powerful in the micro series, they at least explained why in the series the Grievous in Episode 3 was portrayed as so weak whereas in TCW we get no such explanation and we are led to believe that someone who can be overpowered by gungans has been put in charge of one of the most biggest armies in the Star Wars galaxy. He is one of Sidious' most vital puppets and his failure could impact on his plans.
What TCW developers should have done was to strike a balance. It makes no sense for Grievous to be able to waltz into a room and kill 8 or so Jedi Masters or something like that but it also makes no sense that a 14 year old girl can hold her ground against a fearsome warrior. Savage was the kind of warrior Grievous should have been, strong but not invincible (with the only exception that Grievous can't use the force).
|
|
|
|
Post by Spidyyr on Mar 8, 2015 12:25:55 GMT -5
Grievous being portrayed as weak was one of the most retarded decisions ever. While Grievous was too powerful in the micro series, they at least explained why in the series the Grievous in Episode 3 was portrayed as so weak whereas in TCW we get no such explanation and we are led to believe that someone who can be overpowered by gungans has been put in charge of one of the most biggest armies in the Star Wars galaxy. He is one of Sidious' most vital puppets and his failure could impact on his plans. What TCW developers should have done was to strike a balance. It makes no sense for Grievous to be able to waltz into a room and kill 8 or so Jedi Masters or something like that but it also makes no sense that a 14 year old girl can hold her ground against a fearsome warrior. Savage was the kind of warrior Grievous should have been, strong but not invincible (with the only exception that Grievous can't use the force). Well IMO Grievous was a played pretty much the same way he was in ROTS so they had to go off that. I think he would have stated winning more in the last few seasons. |
|
|
|
Post by bobafett590 on Mar 8, 2015 12:29:53 GMT -5
Grievous being portrayed as weak was one of the most retarded decisions ever. While Grievous was too powerful in the micro series, they at least explained why in the series the Grievous in Episode 3 was portrayed as so weak whereas in TCW we get no such explanation and we are led to believe that someone who can be overpowered by gungans has been put in charge of one of the most biggest armies in the Star Wars galaxy. He is one of Sidious' most vital puppets and his failure could impact on his plans. What TCW developers should have done was to strike a balance. It makes no sense for Grievous to be able to waltz into a room and kill 8 or so Jedi Masters or something like that but it also makes no sense that a 14 year old girl can hold her ground against a fearsome warrior. Savage was the kind of warrior Grievous should have been, strong but not invincible (with the only exception that Grievous can't use the force). Well IMO Grievous was a played pretty much the same way he was in ROTS so they had to go off that. I think he would have stated winning more in the last few seasons. That isn't good enough. You need an impression early on that he is a force to be reckoned with otherwise you just won't take him seriously. |
|
|
|
Post by Spidyyr on Mar 8, 2015 12:38:09 GMT -5
Well IMO Grievous was a played pretty much the same way he was in ROTS so they had to go off that. I think he would have stated winning more in the last few seasons. That isn't good enough. You need an impression early on that he is a force to be reckoned with otherwise you just won't take him seriously. Like maybe some redshirt Jedi for him to kill off? |
|
|
|
Post by bobafett590 on Mar 8, 2015 12:42:25 GMT -5
That isn't good enough. You need an impression early on that he is a force to be reckoned with otherwise you just won't take him seriously. Like maybe some redshirt Jedi for him to kill off? No it would be better for him to kill a variety of Jedi but not an excessive amount. Maybe even one or two Jedi Masters like Adi Gallia and some Knights here and there. That way we know that he really is a monster.... not a declawed kitten in armour. |
|
|
|
Post by Spidyyr on Mar 8, 2015 12:45:33 GMT -5
Like maybe some redshirt Jedi for him to kill off? No it would be better for him to kill a variety of Jedi but not an excessive amount. Maybe even one or two Jedi Masters like Adi Gallia and some Knights here and there. That way we know that he really is a monster.... not a declawed kitten in armour.But that's basically what he was in ROTS |
|
|
|
Post by bobafett590 on Mar 8, 2015 12:55:22 GMT -5
No it would be better for him to kill a variety of Jedi but not an excessive amount. Maybe even one or two Jedi Masters like Adi Gallia and some Knights here and there. That way we know that he really is a monster.... not a declawed kitten in armour.But that's basically what he was in ROTS Yes and that is why TCW needed to explain why he was like that in a similar fashion the micro-series did. See, the writers knew that Grievous being a weakling in ROTS made no sense, so a series was created which acted as a prologue of sorts to Episode 3 and in that we see the damage Mace Windu inflicted on him in battle contributed to him being weak later on. TCW instead went by a "let the people assume things" attitude which was a huge mistake as it opens up a whole lot of questions like "Why did the Emperor entrust Grievous with so much power when he can't even defeat a 14 year old girl?" & it really doesn't get through to the viewers that when Grievous shows up, the Potato Rules has really hit the fan. The way he was depicted makes no sense and should have been corrected at some point in TCW. |
|
|
|
Post by Pinda on Mar 8, 2015 12:57:01 GMT -5
Why is the cancellation of TCW not an option?
|
|
|
|
Post by Spidyyr on Mar 8, 2015 13:05:00 GMT -5
But that's basically what he was in ROTS Yes and that is why TCW needed to explain why he was like that in a similar fashion the micro-series did. See, the writers knew that Grievous being a weakling in ROTS made no sense, so a series was created which acted as a prologue of sorts to Episode 3 and in that we see the damage Mace Windu inflicted on him in battle contributed to him being weak later on. TCW instead went by a "let the people assume things" attitude which was a huge mistake as it opens up a whole lot of questions like "Why did the Emperor entrust Grievous with so much power when he can't even defeat a 14 year old girl?" & it really doesn't get through to the viewers that when Grievous shows up, the Potato Rules has really hit the fan. The way he was depicted makes no sense and should have been corrected at some point in TCW. Well there was "Lair of Grievous" |
|
|
|
Post by bobafett590 on Mar 8, 2015 13:11:16 GMT -5
Yes and that is why TCW needed to explain why he was like that in a similar fashion the micro-series did. See, the writers knew that Grievous being a weakling in ROTS made no sense, so a series was created which acted as a prologue of sorts to Episode 3 and in that we see the damage Mace Windu inflicted on him in battle contributed to him being weak later on. TCW instead went by a "let the people assume things" attitude which was a huge mistake as it opens up a whole lot of questions like "Why did the Emperor entrust Grievous with so much power when he can't even defeat a 14 year old girl?" & it really doesn't get through to the viewers that when Grievous shows up, the Potato Rules has really hit the fan. The way he was depicted makes no sense and should have been corrected at some point in TCW. Well there was "Lair of Grievous" The thing is that was only a partial victory for Grievous. Nahdar Vebb was weak and Kit Fisto fought Grievous with no pressure on him at all. He actually seemed pretty calm. |
|
|
|
Post by ?6 (CBK) on Mar 8, 2015 13:13:11 GMT -5
Eth Koth should've been killed off by Grievous in that arc though. That would've showed that Grievous means no mercy, and can kill.
|
|
|
|
Post by Star on Mar 8, 2015 13:58:00 GMT -5
The main problem I have with Maul, Savage, and Grievous is that Grievous didn't kill nearly as many Jedi as either of them. Savage got at least three and was a major threat to Jedi like Kenobi and Anakin. Even Dooku and Ventress were challenged by him. Maul killed a few Jedi as well, which showed he wasn't messing around after his introduction to the show. But Grievous killed what, Nadar Vebb and that's it? Vebb hardly counts as a "powerful" Jedi. I'm glad they had Grievous kill him to show his strength, but Grievous should've killed other Jedi besides him. At least three more powerful ones would have been nice. Massacre showed Grievous was strong, but he was still in trouble against Ventress. Honestly, even though Ventress is strong and has the Force on her side, I would hope Grievous is still stronger than her since he was put in charge of one of the largest armies at the most critical point in the entire SW saga. And Gungans defeating him made Grievous look silly.
|
|
|
|
Post by Star on Mar 8, 2015 14:08:19 GMT -5
Although Grievous is shown to be a little weaker in ROTS, he nearly killed Obi-Wan. I don't have a problem with him happening to lose in the beginning of the film to Anakin and Kenobi either. But as long as I knew that it was a result of Anakin becoming even more powerful and Obi-Wan helping him, it seems reasonable for Grievous to lose then. Still, more deaths of major characters during TCW and maybe even an event in the show that could weaken Grievous slightly from the "Jedi Killer" he is supposed to be. Maybe they could have let Koth or Vos die from him or even have change up the Umbara arc so that way Krell wasn't a traitor and later on in TCW, we see Grievous vs Krell and Grievous wins. That would be a victory that would truly let me realize how powerful the cyborg general was.
|
|
|
|
Post by bobafett590 on Mar 8, 2015 14:10:43 GMT -5
The main problem I have with Maul, Savage, and Grievous is that Grievous didn't kill nearly as many Jedi as either of them. Savage got at least three and was a major threat to Jedi like Kenobi and Anakin. Even Dooku and Ventress were challenged by him. Maul killed a few Jedi as well, which showed he wasn't messing around after his introduction to the show. But Grievous killed what, Nadar Vebb and that's it? Vebb hardly counts as a "powerful" Jedi. I'm glad they had Grievous kill him to show his strength, but Grievous should've killed other Jedi besides him. At least three more powerful ones would have been nice. Massacre showed Grievous was strong, but he was still in trouble against Ventress. Honestly, even though Ventress is strong and has the Force on her side, I would hope Grievous is still stronger than her since he was put in charge of one of the largest armies at the most critical point in the entire SW saga. And Gungans defeating him made Grievous look silly. Maul shouldn't have been as strong as he was portrayed. I mean, he was living in a cave for years and when he gets out he is suddenly as fit as a fiddle. And I never liked Savage either, a random beast with almost no training killing some Masters? Give me a break. Grievous was a part of a disciplined warrior species and a person who was trained by Count Dooku for years and yet he is such an inefficient Jedi hunter in TCW it isn't even funny. |
|
|
|
Post by Star on Mar 8, 2015 14:12:30 GMT -5
General Grievous could have even taken on some bounty hunters like Aurra, Embo, Sugi, and Bane, possibly killing one of them. That would show he was powerful as well. It would make for a pretty cool storyline and fight as well I think. There were a lot of possibilities to make Grievous much more intimidating, they just never happened. I'm sure there would've been a few in seasons 7 and 8, but we'll never know now.  |
|
|
|
Post by Star on Mar 8, 2015 14:19:40 GMT -5
The main problem I have with Maul, Savage, and Grievous is that Grievous didn't kill nearly as many Jedi as either of them. Savage got at least three and was a major threat to Jedi like Kenobi and Anakin. Even Dooku and Ventress were challenged by him. Maul killed a few Jedi as well, which showed he wasn't messing around after his introduction to the show. But Grievous killed what, Nadar Vebb and that's it? Vebb hardly counts as a "powerful" Jedi. I'm glad they had Grievous kill him to show his strength, but Grievous should've killed other Jedi besides him. At least three more powerful ones would have been nice. Massacre showed Grievous was strong, but he was still in trouble against Ventress. Honestly, even though Ventress is strong and has the Force on her side, I would hope Grievous is still stronger than her since he was put in charge of one of the largest armies at the most critical point in the entire SW saga. And Gungans defeating him made Grievous look silly. Maul shouldn't have been as strong as he was portrayed. I mean, he was living in a cave for years and when he gets out he is suddenly as fit as a fiddle. And I never liked Savage either, a random beast with almost no training killing some Masters? Give me a break. Grievous was a part of a disciplined warrior species and a person who was trained by Count Dooku for years and yet he is such an inefficient Jedi hunter in TCW it isn't even funny. Yes, I agree, I feel like Savage and Maul were shown as being more powerful than they really should have been. Although, there's Talzin's witchcraft to take into consideration, which I'm sure does enhance both of their abilities. Regardless, at least they did a good job of making them feared. Grievous looked like a wimp compared to them. If they had made that Kashyyyk arc that was mentioned, I would have hoped for it to involve Mace and a group of Jedi that Grievous would face off against and kill one or two of them without the help of his droids. That would have been great. But you're right, making him look weak from the start isn't good. Because of that, he wasn't seen as a large threat; it was just his name that made it seem like a big deal. Savage and Maul were seen as imposing figures from the very beginning, which is why they were taken more seriously as a threat IMO. |
|
|
|
Post by Newan on Mar 8, 2015 14:30:01 GMT -5
Why is the cancellation of TCW not an option? Has nothing to do with the actual show |
|
|
|
Post by Newan on Mar 9, 2015 0:30:25 GMT -5
To clarify this has to do with like dialogue and character interactions and stuff I didn't really know what to call it otherwise. Not so much action and fights. I don't really know tbh... Deception arc kinda fell apart. Umbara had really good stuff going with the clones so that was cool. So did the Fives arc it was pretty epic with that last episode. Mortis as well was good a lot of soul searching I guess you could say. Season 5 finale is good but I think Barriss was not thought out at all so no. I'll go with Mortis. The fighting between the jedi and the appearances of Qui-Gon and all. Though Umbara is so close... Not sure |
|
|
|
Post by Newan on Mar 9, 2015 0:34:11 GMT -5
Oh yeah stuff before like season three second half never gets votes so screw that shit.
But I'm going with Umbara
|
|
|
|
Post by Spidyyr on Mar 9, 2015 0:37:55 GMT -5
Going with Ahsoka yo
|
|
|
|
Post by Newan on Mar 9, 2015 1:38:55 GMT -5
I just made a grand post(thread) with WTF is the point of crisis on naboo...
|
|
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 