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Post by Newan on Feb 20, 2015 16:11:57 GMT -5
Yeah I don't really like Maul much anymore but Savage is alright. When the time comes it will be hard to decide what's more over rated the wrong jedi or anything with maul. I mean the arcs Maul are in generally have good story but they pretty much only focused on that near the end of the show and I don't like them bringing back an obviously dead character I liked Savage in season 3 but then he just became a side character so Maul could have someone to talk to... And it looked like he was really stupid which he wasn't.. I would have liked more battles as well over personal stories especially more space battles. Maybe the outer rime sieges but it seems they where just going to focus on more character stories for season 7/8 Yeah but those character stories would probably have been kinda cooler Yeah Savage was cool in season 3 and he was the one reason Brothers was somewhat not a total disaster. And idk I really just don't want to see another story solely about single characters again. At least the Fives arc had a deeper meaning about the behind the scenes plot. Yoda arc also had a deeper meaning. Then there's some arcs/episodes that really don't. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 20, 2015 16:42:33 GMT -5
I liked Savage in season 3 but then he just became a side character so Maul could have someone to talk to... And it looked like he was really stupid which he wasn't.. Yeah but those character stories would probably have been kinda cooler Yeah Savage was cool in season 3 and he was the one reason Brothers was somewhat not a total disaster. And idk I really just don't want to see another story solely about single characters again. At least the Fives arc had a deeper meaning about the behind the scenes plot. Yoda arc also had a deeper meaning. Then there's some arcs/episodes that really don't. Like wut? |
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Post by Star on Feb 20, 2015 16:48:25 GMT -5
They should've done some more all out battle episodes though. An episode dedicated to a space battle would've been pretty cool. Better than that water war Potato Rules.... And I wanted to see the rumored 212th battalion vs Mandalorians... 212th vs Mandalorians would've been pretty cool. Any arc following the story of Mandalore past season 5 would've been cool. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Feb 20, 2015 17:01:07 GMT -5
Geonosis arc- Probably the best arc of Season 2, and that's saying a lot. But LAPR was the best ep and Weapons Factory kinda failed at keeping that momentum going. Like the actual "Fight for Geonosis" ended up not really being that epic. I liked the zombies though and the last two episodes were really creepy. In the last EP, we saw a glimpse of Vader and a hint of Order 66. And then also Barriss's view and her killing clones. It's kinda strange how much foreshadowing was in that EP. Umbara arc- I really liked this arc. I think had it had a great balance of character development and action. Plus, I've been a clone fan since they became humanized in S1. The General was probably the worst episode since it basically was the same as DOU. But I still liked it as it had amazing visuals and who wasn't smiling at the end? I know it was obvious that Krell was bad but the ending was still unpredictable as we had no idea who'd come out alive. Deception arc- First three eps were brilliant. It was really interesting to see Obi as a villain though his "death" could have been done better. The Box was intense and epic. However, Crisis on Naboo ruined the arc in one go. Three episodes had built this epic story, but it ended up being screwed over in a "twist". But the twist ended up being a boring AniDooku fight where no one could die. It was good foreshadowing, I suppose. But I think we all wanted to see Bane vs Obi for the whole ep. Revenge arc- This arc was really good. The first two episodes brought an in epic new direction for Ventress. And man, it ended up being dark and mature. Brothers was bad. Well the whole punch of Maul returning didn't happen because we all knew Maul would return and what he would look like. Revenge was great though. Great acting from Witwer and the final moments were fantastic. Onderon arc- Not terrible, but the story of teenage misfits rebelling against an evil gov while only staying on one planet isn't that exciting. Oh well, at least Ezra wasn't in it. The last EP was the best tho. It brought in unexpected darkness and tragedy to the arc. Youngling arc- Really bad. So much of it was nonsensical. The first EP was okay I guess. Could have been okay as a standalone. Though I had no idea when Ahsoka became Jedi Mrs. Krabappel. But then... more eps happened. The second one was okay, though I fail understand why Hondo needed to be there. I was okay with him being a villain, he is a pirate after all and he was a villain in TGG and Bounty Hunters. But is Hondo really the only pirate in the galaxy? Why not have some new, creepy, intimidating pirate show up? BFR was bad beyond belief. Made so little sense and wasted Grievous attacking a Star Destroyer. And the Slave I was the best part of ANB. Oh yeah, the Doctor was there. Maul Arc (season 5)- Amazing, shocking, and emotional arc. Best fight scenes of the series and claimed the lives of many long term characters. However, a lot of this was undermined by most of the arc being spoiled months in advance... Ahsoka arc- Beautiful and heartbreaking. While there were someplot holes and the culprit was obvious, the ending as so great that you can't help but admire this story as well as the whole show. A new chapter begins for Ahsoka that none of is could wait to see in Seasons 6, 7, and 8. Btw, f*ck you Disney. Fives arc- Great arc written about one if my favorite characters. Very dark, complex, and creepy throughout, especially in "The Unknown". "Orders" rivaled "The Wrong Jedi" in terms of emotion, bringing a tragic end to a great character. I loved the foreshadowing as well. Yoda arc- Pretty good, but definitely not a way to end the show. As in Fives, I loved the foreshadowing of events to come. All episodes were great. It was awesome to finally see Korriban. Basically everything I would have said. 100% agree. |
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Post by Star on Feb 20, 2015 17:10:40 GMT -5
Geonosis arc - Great story overall. LAPR was one of the best episodes/battles of S2 and the series. The arc didn't flow the best I suppose, but the zombie stuff and whatnot was pretty neat. Umbara arc - Awesome arc that developed the clones a lot. Krell was pretty awesome and even though it was obvious Krell was a traitor (wish they made that different...) it was still cool seeing him fight the clones and foreshadow some things. The first two episodes were pretty similar, but still great seeing more of the planet and actual battles. Seeing Tiin and Kenobi more would've been nice though. Deception arc - One of the most enjoyable arcs for me. Kenobi was awesome and the concept of a Jedi going undercover as a bounty hunter was really cool (guess only way to improve it would be using a Jedi that can actually die instead of Kenobi, but that would ruin the Anakin hunting his master thinking he's a bounty hunter side story). Seeing all the bounty hunters throughout the arc as well as Anakin/Ahsoka hunt down Kenobi was cool. I'll admit the last episode was a bit disappointing, but nonetheless, it doesn't ruin the arc for me. The first three episodes were so diverse and interesting that I still loved it. Revenge arc - Ventress part was great. Maul part... okay. Massacre and bounty were amazing and it showed Ventress beginning to change more since S3. Brothers was slow and pretty boring. Probably the last episode where I liked Savage (cause he acted smart and not just like a strong idiot - S3 episodes are an exception since he was learning/training). Revenge was good, but still not great. Ventress and Kenobi vs Maul and Savage was neat. Onderon arc - Honestly don't remember this arc too well...  It was pretty neat since it was different from other episodes though. I liked seeing how the CIS affected other planets. The last episode was pretty dark if I remember correctly. But yeah, don't remember it too well, so I can't say much about it. Either way, there were better four part arcs than this one. Youngling arc - I actually didn't mind this arc (or the Droid arc for that matter). Gave Ahsoka some more screen time. First episode was really good and could have worked very well as a standalone. The last three were alright. I liked seeing more Hondo, so that was cool. Grievous being in it was sorta random though... Maul arc (S5) - Now here is an amazing arc. Every episode was great, especially the last two. I loved seeing Maul and Vizsla interact, and I think their duel was the best on the entire show (sorry, Sidious). Bo-Katan was pretty neat and having Obi-Wan and Satine in it made it better. Very dark, intense, emotional arc. Ahsoka arc - I don't like this arc as much as some others here do, but it was still a really high quality story. It was an emtional end, and what would've been a good transition into the final 3 seasons of TCW that would've been the darkest and probably best of the show. Fives arc - Yeah, like the Deception arc, I really enjoyed this one. I liked all the foreshadowing and how it really kept things in line for ROTS. Fives was a great character and is now my favorite clone because of this arc. Yoda arc - 
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Post by Newan on Feb 20, 2015 17:11:37 GMT -5
Yeah Savage was cool in season 3 and he was the one reason Brothers was somewhat not a total disaster. And idk I really just don't want to see another story solely about single characters again. At least the Fives arc had a deeper meaning about the behind the scenes plot. Yoda arc also had a deeper meaning. Then there's some arcs/episodes that really don't. Like wut? No more character episodes like Ahsoka arc and more arcs about the actual war at hand like more battles and stuff... |
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Post by Star on Feb 20, 2015 17:14:03 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and I didn't like how Savage became a mindless brute for S5. Ruined what he became during S3/S4 for me... He was there just for Maul to talk with and make them look like an awesome duo. |
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Post by Star on Feb 20, 2015 17:17:15 GMT -5
No more character episodes like Ahsoka arc and more arcs about the actual war at hand like more battles and stuff... I would've liked to have seen S6 be any other character arcs they had in mind for the show as well as tie up loose ends. S7 could also tie up those loose ends and maybe add in some cool episodes like Zillo Beast and Deception, but also bring the focus of the show back on the war rather than side adventures. Then S8 could be all-out battles and incorporate any last minute deaths/confrontations of characters into them. |
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Post by Star on Feb 20, 2015 17:17:42 GMT -5
Between Fives, Maul, and Deception for me.
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Post by Newan on Feb 20, 2015 17:20:39 GMT -5
And Ahsokas season 5 arcs where pretty garbage tbh I was happy when she left it mean not more of that and more better stuff. Then disappointed seeing she may return again.
Season 6 would have been way better without her though the bonus content was already better than season 5. Crystal crisis story reels where better than Ahsoka arc. Season 4 was good cause she had little to no part in it.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Feb 20, 2015 17:30:53 GMT -5
And Ahsokas season 5 arcs where pretty garbage tbh I was happy when she left it mean not more of that and more better stuff. Then disappointed seeing she may return again. Season 6 would have been way better without her though the bonus content was already better than season 5. Crystal crisis story reels where better than Ahsoka arc. Season 4 was good cause she had little to no part in it. Wtf are you on? Ahsoka was fantastic and is such a well developed character. So we know you're an Anti-Ahsoka and an Anti-Maul...... |
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Post by Newan on Feb 20, 2015 17:34:05 GMT -5
And Ahsokas season 5 arcs where pretty garbage tbh I was happy when she left it mean not more of that and more better stuff. Then disappointed seeing she may return again. Season 6 would have been way better without her though the bonus content was already better than season 5. Crystal crisis story reels where better than Ahsoka arc. Season 4 was good cause she had little to no part in it. Wtf are you on? Ahsoka was fantastic and is such a well developed character. So we know you're an Anti-Ahsoka and an Anti-Maul...... Not really I found a lot of her arcs like Onderon and Younglings to be not that good... She was kinda annoying as well. Maul wasn't really needed like he was hype at first but then the hype wore off and now is just would be the one thing the developers would put the most work into when he really isn't need for the show. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Feb 20, 2015 20:24:25 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and I didn't like how Savage became a mindless brute for S5. Ruined what he became during S3/S4 for me... He was there just for Maul to talk with and make them look like an awesome duo. I like that they tried to give him character development whenever there was any leftover time like in Revival with the first scene and in Shades of Reason when he and Maul are talking about Vizsla and Mandalore in the tent. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Feb 20, 2015 20:26:27 GMT -5
Wtf are you on? Ahsoka was fantastic and is such a well developed character. So we know you're an Anti-Ahsoka and an Anti-Maul...... Not really I found a lot of her arcs like Onderon and Younglings to be not that good... She was kinda annoying as well. Maul wasn't really needed like he was hype at first but then the hype wore off and now is just would be the one thing the developers would put the most work into when he really isn't need for the show. Maul came on the show to gain viewers. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Feb 20, 2015 20:26:52 GMT -5
Not really I found a lot of her arcs like Onderon and Younglings to be not that good... She was kinda annoying as well. Maul wasn't really needed like he was hype at first but then the hype wore off and now is just would be the one thing the developers would put the most work into when he really isn't need for the show. Maul came on the show to gain viewers. Which was a very good choice  |
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Post by Newan on Feb 20, 2015 20:29:23 GMT -5
Not really I found a lot of her arcs like Onderon and Younglings to be not that good... She was kinda annoying as well. Maul wasn't really needed like he was hype at first but then the hype wore off and now is just would be the one thing the developers would put the most work into when he really isn't need for the show. Maul came on the show to gain viewers. Yes which proves what people are saying that the show was cancelled for many reasons other than disney just saying they're done... It's pretty obvious they put probably 1/3 of season 5s budget into the Maul arc... |
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Post by Kenbo on Feb 20, 2015 20:31:29 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and I didn't like how Savage became a mindless brute for S5. Ruined what he became during S3/S4 for me... He was there just for Maul to talk with and make them look like an awesome duo. I like that they tried to give him character development whenever there was any leftover time like in Revival with the first scene and in Shades of Reason when he and Maul are talking about Vizsla and Mandalore in the tent. Not really "character development" just a conversation.. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Feb 20, 2015 20:38:00 GMT -5
I like that they tried to give him character development whenever there was any leftover time like in Revival with the first scene and in Shades of Reason when he and Maul are talking about Vizsla and Mandalore in the tent. Not really "character development" just a conversation.. Savage: " The promise of wealth will find us a new face on Mandalore." Maul: " You have learned well my apprentice. Greed never fails to motivate." It's still character development even if it's minor. |
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Post by Kenbo on Feb 20, 2015 20:48:03 GMT -5
Not really "character development" just a conversation.. Savage: " The promise of wealth will find us a new face on Mandalore." Maul: " You have learned well my apprentice. Greed never fails to motivate." It's still character development even if it's minor. Well then by that logic every single line is character development... Actually I guess that's kinda true from a point of view... |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Feb 20, 2015 20:52:11 GMT -5
Savage: " The promise of wealth will find us a new face on Mandalore." Maul: " You have learned well my apprentice. Greed never fails to motivate." It's still character development even if it's minor. Well then by that logic every single line is character development... Actually I guess that's kinda true from a point of view... Well I guess it depends on each character. Savage doesn't have that much character development so the line is kind of worth more if you know what I mean.. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Feb 20, 2015 22:08:01 GMT -5
On the topic of the maul arc, one thing I liked about it was that Pre's actions were somewhat justified and had motivations. I hated in how a friend in need they ruined his character by attacking innocents for no real reason. I didn't want him to be one of those villains. I wanted him to be Amon from LOK (who action very good motives) and not be purely evil. After all I think in the end he wanted to make Mandalore a safe place and all. But yeah I kind of didn't like AFIN for that reason...
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Post by Newan on Feb 21, 2015 9:38:28 GMT -5
Also need tie breaker for Fives And Ahsoka if you have not voted one of them please do
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Post by Newan on Feb 21, 2015 9:43:13 GMT -5
Alright next polls start when the Fives and Ahsoka tie is broken
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Post by Pinda on Feb 21, 2015 10:13:56 GMT -5
Changed my vote from Maul to Ahsoka to break the tie.
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Post by Newan on Feb 21, 2015 10:25:33 GMT -5
Combined some arcs like how rookies goes with the season 3 episodes.
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Post by Star on Feb 21, 2015 10:28:17 GMT -5
None of these is bad... tough choice.  Slave, Dathomir, Citadel, Mortis, and Domino are the ones that stand out to me the most, but like I said, the rest aren't bad either. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 21, 2015 10:35:16 GMT -5
Really only between Mortis, Citadel and Domino for me. I think Mortis may be the best
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Post by Kenbo on Feb 21, 2015 10:36:25 GMT -5
Like I said before Mortis is probably my favorite arc in the series. I like the Anakin, Ahsoka, Obi-Wan group and the story was really interesting and how it explained the Force stuff... But another great part was the music it felt majestic but more than that it felt Star Wars and not just the Imperial March or the SW theme that was used.. And it had badass scenes dood like Anakin's controlling the Son and the Daughter and changing day to night is probably one of my favorite scenes in all of SW idk man feels... And let's not forget the Vader vision... Just really cool made some poo come out tbh.....
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Post by Kenbo on Feb 21, 2015 10:40:33 GMT -5
Citadel possibly second favorite but idk.. Also I'm watching Mon Cala again right now it seems pretty good actually... Each time I watch it again it feels better lol
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Post by Newan on Feb 21, 2015 10:44:09 GMT -5
Right now I voted Mortis but I may change it idk I felt some parts of that arc where weak while citadel was pretty strong. The only thing I really like in the dathomir arc was Savage scenes.
I may rewatch another arc today while I AFK RS again. Yesterday I watched Fives are for like the 6th time. I was thinking Deception today.
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It was pretty neat since it was different from other episodes though. I liked seeing how the CIS affected other planets. The last episode was pretty dark if I remember correctly. But yeah, don't remember it too well, so I can't say much about it. Either way, there were better four part arcs than this one. 
