Death Dealers - Conclusion

Yeah it was 2 weeks I think total... Would have been faster but some night actions where real slow.

So yeah feedback would be good

Things I noticed and trivia:

Despite common belief that the loyalists should consist of majority of the total players seems a game with less than half loyalists (8 including Dark who was aligned with them) worked out pretty well. It really just depends on how things play out honestly with night actions.

There was no outnumbering this game unless it was 1v1 you actually had to eliminate all opposition. Even if it was 3 scum vs Mav, Spider, Star I would have let two double convicts happen till only one scum won probably.

If there was any game a scum team should have won it should have been this game (just judging by how often scum win now days)... But maybe having less loyalists being voted (and less on total) just causes a lot less confusion and half the angels had roles as well. I think less loyals dying helped out it's an interesting theory.


Everyone had a role of some type except Wampa and Slime. Though Wampa originally had a role. And yeah I wouldn't really count Ewok since I purposely made him helper. And it was quite more balanced than I first predicted the only time I intervened was when I nerfed Nams Protects to 1 just too lower the scum a bit (though none where attacked anyways)

Wampa's role was originally the ANGEL DEFENDER, a suicider that could activate on 2 nights in the game but I removed it as I did not want too many role claims and there was already enough protection (judging from lack of deaths day 1 and 2).

This was the first game I believe to have a dedicated vote blocker role (even though combined with a Roleblocker the vote blocks where used more) I quite liked this role TBH and if I host again I will probably use it.

The crossroads demon was never used though a few people considered it they just didn't want to die. Originally I was hoping that people being voted off and knew they where done for would try to benefit from this as it was a way to get something more than just dying,..

The staff was voted randomly nights one and four cause of no voters.

The order or staff holders was: Kenobi, Star, Pinda, Spider, Star, Mav (though Mav did not benefit since the day seven choice to vote was obvious and the scum had no actions left).

This was the first game to have a healer where the person would not die (sacrificer) after using it though this role was never used due to Banes early death.

I think it's obvious this has the most non loyals like ever

This game had the most players sign up in Ambush games history.

This game lasted seven days which is tied with many other games for longest game (game days). No game has exceeded seven days in the past. (Not counting conclusions and fake days obviously).

Boba's hit list consisted of Wampa, Slime and Legolas and he would have succeeded as well since he would have only had to kill Legolas Night 3 (one time kill) if he had lived.

This was the first game to have a real hit list of people I think even though everyone always thinks people have hit lists as 3rd party for some reason...

Originally the 3rd party team was going to be called Purgatory Guardians and they would have had roles based off that name but I changed it to individual names as it wouldn't look like they're the scum if voted or killed early.

I believe this was also the first game to have a unique object like the staff passed around every night.

This and The rising menace where the only games to have 3 real teams. Though I think it worked a bit more successfully here no offence but just judging off what I remember.

There was 6 parties total (counting Angels and Demons).

Unlike most games the loyals and scum had different names.

Every role in game had a different name than usual which would have made claiming roles very difficult (intended) except Angel Helpers where the same name as Loyal helpers.

Mav was not allowed to claim on day one, neither was Spider to avoid any serious Whitaker incidents... Spider was originally only allowed to claim to Star but I lifted that rule and allowed him to claim to everyone if he was about to be voted, this however didnt happen but the 3rd party and scum both figured it out eventually.

Surprisingly even after the rule was lifted (day 3) Mav and Spider never had any real contact with eachother...

Nic used her tricks to make Bane talk funny, Make Skirata come up unknown (though he blew this by revealing kinda) and make an inspection come up opposite (this worked as Star inspected Legolas as loyal instead of vampire).

Even with randomized roles it was fitting that Boba got the assassin role as it matched up with HKs character. Also it was kinda funny how Spider got the invincible role pretty much because he was Lucifer and his character couldn't really die to any of these characters.

This was the first game where Nam and Tater where scum together I believe. Kinda funny how nobody pointed them out earlier though for not arguing with eachother and being inactive.

Malgus was the original scum leader but I swapped it with Nam just because Malgus would understand a crossroads demon better from watching supernatural.

Star was inspector twice in a row. Though if I had remembered this I may have swapped his role with Mavs just cause inspector is a fun role you don't often get and it's cool to give others a turn at different roles. But it seems things worked out well anyways. Mav probably lead the loyals the most and his roleblocks where very solid.

Mav actually roleblocked his protector on night four this was also example of having no contact with Spider. But every other night he roleblocked a scum or 3rd party.

Spider protected Star every night but Legolas blocked him night 2. If Nam originally decided to go through with risking a kill on Star this would have been the one night it would have succeeded and probably would have helped them win the game as Spider would have never known Mav was a loyal Roleblocker without Star and wouldn't have known who to protect.

Spider knew Mavs role but Mav never knew Spiders I believe

Oh yeah if Nam would have showed up 3 mintues earlier the scum would have won and voted Legolas


So yeah I think that's everything but some cool stuff happened

Some other random trivia and info: PLEASE READ THE LAST POINTS FOR INFO ON NEXT GAME


This was my first hosted game which probably would make me the longest running active player to not host a game before this was hosted.

I was obviously the last mod to host a game.... (Like really late )

2 months ago I was planning on never hosting but then I was like "fûçk it I gotta test out some of my ideas eventually"....

Yeah man shout out to all mah loyal helpers... Oh only 3 people cause you got Newans favourite role

I will be hosting again and it will be a spin off to this (not sequel) about Revan with the Blade of God in the Star Wars galaxy. It will have very little supernatural ties unlike this game so easier to understand but it will probably be in The Old Republic era cause TCW is used a lot in games (not saying it's bad I just like different). But yeah Revan has powers equivalent to God now when he wields the Blade. It will most likely be titled "Blade Runners" which was an original title idea for this game it's also the title of episode 9x16 of Supernatural, ill release more info after this story is done. I have no clue when it will be hosted but hopefully in a time when school is slower. Maybe January or March during Spring Break or maybe not till next summer idk whenever works.


Edit: also the blade of god was made up it seems a lot of people where confused on that in PMs they thought cause of strong supernatural ties here that CBK was lying. And Revan would have stolen the blade either way it was just a mater of if CBK won or not. I was originally going to reveal Sam had it in the story but then it would show he had a role though it was technically more 3rd party.


And another trivia but the idea for this spin off came in the early days of this game. If Revan had not gotten that role a spin off idea may not have worked as well.

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised how well I did this time. I haven't played this well in eons However, I think I would've been sunk if I didn't contact Star for help.

Well I died pretty early on but it was still fun posting jack sparrow memes and gifs.

No one is going to trust me when I reveal roles now I've lied about all my roles somehow in every game.

But I loved this game. I had a lot of fun Especially with Star and Kenobi with RP. I didn't mind all the roles. It was different and interesting and made this game great. Thanks Newan!!

Best feeling in the games: Reading the scum base (or bases) after you've won as a loyal.

So even when Tater is on my side and Newan is hosting I still manage to lose. Oh well, fun game, Newan, although I wish I was more active. Thank you!

It's been a long time since I had that feeling

This is was awesome and one of the most coolest AG games.

Yeah this was probably one of the only games where the 3 main loyals roles survived to the end. That was really a reason why the loyals where able to pull it off as well with no confusion.


Also we have learned that when Pinda is scum you shouldn't try and kill Spider TBPG2 and now this.,.

And I think the three sides were handled really well.

And yeah again I stated this in the trivia but I really liked the vote blocker it was a small role that was kinda cool combined with the option to roleblock.

Well he was only going to roleblock Mav which then the scum would have probably kist failed at killing you