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Post by Pinda on Jul 24, 2014 15:09:38 GMT -5
Too many third parties... at least someone has to be lying. And if Barriss/Spider is lying the other one is probably lying as well. TBH I don't think anyone is lying. Maybe you are lying about your role.  You're so worked up about the protector and inspector giving you a pm. Why should they have to trust you and tell everything? Because, unlike all of you, I claimed a loyal role. It's highly unlikely that there are 3 third parties. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 24, 2014 15:11:09 GMT -5
TBH I don't think anyone is lying. Maybe you are lying about your role. You're so worked up about the protector and inspector giving you a pm. Why should they have to trust you and tell everything? Because, unlike all of you, I claimed a loyal role. It's highly unlikely that there are 3 third parties. You never know. You claimed a loyal role? There's still a chance you were lying too. So you can't keep accusing everyone else for lying when you could have too. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 24, 2014 15:16:20 GMT -5
Because, unlike all of you, I claimed a loyal role. It's highly unlikely that there are 3 third parties. You never know. You claimed a loyal role? There's still a chance you were lying too. So you can't keep accusing everyone else for lying when you could have too. There's a chance I'm lying, of course. But for you (the people who claimed third party) there's a huge chance one of you is lying. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 24, 2014 15:18:15 GMT -5
You never know. You claimed a loyal role? There's still a chance you were lying too. So you can't keep accusing everyone else for lying when you could have too. There's a chance I'm lying, of course. But for you (the people who claimed third party) there's a huge chance one of you is lying. Not really. Since my role actually worked unlike yours  . Nothing about my pm with Edge looked staged or fake. If it was why would we even make a pm if we were scum? The Upgrader role isn't scum. And yes there's a chance that Edge could have lied to me, but I rather take the chance to think that he wasn't. |
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Post by Pinda on Jul 24, 2014 15:23:37 GMT -5
There's a chance I'm lying, of course. But for you (the people who claimed third party) there's a huge chance one of you is lying. Not really. Since my role actually worked unlike yours . Nothing about my pm with Edge looked staged or fake. If it was why would we even make a pm if we were scum? The Upgrader role isn't scum. And yes there's a chance that Edge could have lied to me, but I rather take the chance to think that he wasn't. The only person that has confirmed your role to work is another third party. And if you were both scum you'd make a PM to make people believe you are not scum. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 24, 2014 15:25:58 GMT -5
Not really. Since my role actually worked unlike yours . Nothing about my pm with Edge looked staged or fake. If it was why would we even make a pm if we were scum? The Upgrader role isn't scum. And yes there's a chance that Edge could have lied to me, but I rather take the chance to think that he wasn't. The only person that has confirmed your role to work is another third party. And if you were both scum you'd make a PM to make people believe you are not scum. I randomly picked Edge though. I was told that my upgrade was a success so I pmmed him. I never talked to Edge ever. But I did think he was the Protector. |
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Post by red on Jul 24, 2014 17:22:43 GMT -5
The only person that has confirmed your role to work is another third party. And if you were both scum you'd make a PM to make people believe you are not scum. I randomly picked Edge though. I was told that my upgrade was a success so I pmmed him. I never talked to Edge ever. But I did think he was the Protector. Still though, we really only have what you and the other "third parties" say. We have absolutely no evidence for your defence that you couldn't have faked. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 24, 2014 17:47:33 GMT -5
I randomly picked Edge though. I was told that my upgrade was a success so I pmmed him. I never talked to Edge ever. But I did think he was the Protector. Still though, we really only have what you and the other "third parties" say. We have absolutely no evidence for your defence that you couldn't have faked. And you all have no evidence of us saying otherwise. So really you guys could just be saying this all up just to get us voted off. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 24, 2014 19:56:44 GMT -5
*throws fish in everyone's face*
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 21:08:21 GMT -5
See kids, Ben Ben is still a badass.  |
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 21:11:34 GMT -5
For those who think Ki-Adi is lying, he's actually done a lot more to appear loyal compared to Ghost, Edge, and Barriss. However, Barriss being third party seems reasonable, IF her claim is true. Cause an upgraded role as scum wouldn't make sense. But if she lied and Edge is also scum and they staged it to look loyal/third party... Then that's possible. It could also explain why the night action took action the same night (maybe an overlooked detail in a scum strategy?). And then there's Bane who's been oblivious to these two other plausible third parties. IDK... It's all confusing.
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 21:12:22 GMT -5
It's kind of odd though how quickly Ghost trusts Barriss' claim but is so against Ki-Adi being the suicider.
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Post by bane on Jul 24, 2014 21:22:22 GMT -5
It's kind of odd though how quickly Ghost trusts Barriss' claim but is so against Ki-Adi being the suicider. What? Wtf do you mean? |
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 21:27:54 GMT -5
I claimed Loyal Upgrader. I upgrade someone every night. (Whether they are Scum or Loyal) I don't know if they are scum or loyal. So I just have to guess that I'm upgrading the right role. If I upgrade the inspector they get two inspections, protector is two protections I'm assuming. But if I accidentally upgrade a scum role, well then that's bad. Oh sorry I missed that. Well it's probably legit so I no longer suspect you. You were so quick to trust this claim by Barriss, Ghost, but were against the prospect of Ki-Adi being the true suicider. It's even stranger when you had nothing but this one post to go off of to trust her compared to Ki-Adi who had done much more to make his claim seem truthful. Just kinda odd IMO. |
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Post by bane on Jul 24, 2014 21:42:17 GMT -5
Oh sorry I missed that. Well it's probably legit so I no longer suspect you. You were so quick to trust this claim by Barriss, Ghost, but were against the prospect of Ki-Adi being the true suicider. It's even stranger when you had nothing but this one post to go off of to trust her compared to Ki-Adi who had done much more to make his claim seem truthful. Just kinda odd IMO. I heard what you said the first time. But where did you get the feeling I trusted Barriss' claims? Where'd you get that idea? I was just trying to understand what was happening when I asked Boba all those questions, I didn't say anything about MY views. And at the moment I do trust Pinda. He seems loyal. You can't just dig up old evidence from the beginning of day one and assume nothing has changed. |
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Post by Potato on Jul 24, 2014 21:58:41 GMT -5
Kit looks sort of scummy to me too.
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 22:12:01 GMT -5
You were so quick to trust this claim by Barriss, Ghost, but were against the prospect of Ki-Adi being the true suicider. It's even stranger when you had nothing but this one post to go off of to trust her compared to Ki-Adi who had done much more to make his claim seem truthful. Just kinda odd IMO. I heard what you said the first time. But where did you get the feeling I trusted Barriss' claims? Where'd you get that idea? I was just trying to understand what was happening when I asked Boba all those questions, I didn't say anything about MY views. And at the moment I do trust Pinda. He seems loyal. You can't just dig up old evidence from the beginning of day one and assume nothing has changed. ... You said the claim sounded legit. That means you must trust her. And you never said otherwise about now trusting Ki-Adi's claims. Therefore, I still thought you were unsure if him being loyal and his claim truthful. Besides, Day 1 evidence isn't old. It's only day 2. |
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Post by bane on Jul 24, 2014 22:16:33 GMT -5
I heard what you said the first time. But where did you get the feeling I trusted Barriss' claims? Where'd you get that idea? I was just trying to understand what was happening when I asked Boba all those questions, I didn't say anything about MY views. And at the moment I do trust Pinda. He seems loyal. You can't just dig up old evidence from the beginning of day one and assume nothing has changed. ... You said the claim sounded legit. That means you must trust her. And you never said otherwise about now trusting Ki-Adi's claims. Therefore, I still thought you were unsure if him being loyal and his claim truthful. Besides, Day 1 evidence isn't old. It's only day 2. When did I say that? |
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 22:20:58 GMT -5
Oh sorry I missed that. Well it's probably legit so I no longer suspect you.You were so quick to trust this claim by Barriss, Ghost, but were against the prospect of Ki-Adi being the true suicider. It's even stranger when you had nothing but this one post to go off of to trust her compared to Ki-Adi who had done much more to make his claim seem truthful. Just kinda odd IMO. You said it right there. |
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 22:22:49 GMT -5
Kit looks sort of scummy to me too. How come? I know I mentioned him acting a little differently yesterday, but I'd like to see why you find him somewhat scummy. |
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Post by bane on Jul 24, 2014 22:25:24 GMT -5
You were so quick to trust this claim by Barriss, Ghost, but were against the prospect of Ki-Adi being the true suicider. It's even stranger when you had nothing but this one post to go off of to trust her compared to Ki-Adi who had done much more to make his claim seem truthful. Just kinda odd IMO. You said it right there. Oh, that's what you mean. Whenever you got that from, it was probably before it started to become apparent that Spider and CBK had a connection. I was talking about the things I'd said after I'd understood all that. |
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Post by Potato on Jul 24, 2014 22:52:09 GMT -5
Kit looks sort of scummy to me too. How come? I know I mentioned him acting a little differently yesterday, but I'd like to see why you find him somewhat scummy. He's been staying back and makes one post every once and a while that sort of sums everything up. He defended Edge, who I think is more suspicious, but then "accused" him shortly after. It seemed sort of staged to me. But maybe I'm just out of it... |
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Post by Star on Jul 24, 2014 23:03:37 GMT -5
How come? I know I mentioned him acting a little differently yesterday, but I'd like to see why you find him somewhat scummy. He's been staying back and makes one post every once and a while that sort of sums everything up. He defended Edge, who I think is more suspicious, but then "accused" him shortly after. It seemed sort of staged to me. But maybe I'm just out of it... I don't remember him defending Edge but I do remember him saying he was slightly suspicous of him recently. But yes, he does sum up everything in the few posts he's made. Not sure if that's bad. But it is sorta different from how he normally acts. |
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Post by Potato on Jul 24, 2014 23:05:40 GMT -5
He's been staying back and makes one post every once and a while that sort of sums everything up. He defended Edge, who I think is more suspicious, but then "accused" him shortly after. It seemed sort of staged to me. But maybe I'm just out of it... I don't remember him defending Edge but I do remember him saying he was slightly suspicous of him recently. But yes, he does sum up everything in the few posts he's made. Not sure if that's bad. But it is sorta different from how he normally acts. He accused Ghost more than Edge and have reasons why Ghost's claim made more sense. I think Edge is more suspicious so I thought it was weird how Kit accused Ghost instead. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jul 25, 2014 5:33:25 GMT -5
How come? I know I mentioned him acting a little differently yesterday, but I'd like to see why you find him somewhat scummy. He's been staying back and makes one post every once and a while that sort of sums everything up. He defended Edge, who I think is more suspicious, but then "accused" him shortly after. It seemed sort of staged to me. But maybe I'm just out of it... I didn't defend Edge. I said why I was also suspicious of him. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 25, 2014 10:05:44 GMT -5
About 4-5 hours to vote..
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Post by bobafett590 on Jul 25, 2014 10:45:03 GMT -5
 VOTE: GHOST (BANE) - One of the countless third party claimants, I don't think he is a genuine one as he seemed to claim immediately after Ki-Adi questioned him about his role, he could possibly be a scum trying to avoid conflict. - He followed Dracar very quickly on the Barriss vote & didn't produce a defence against Dracar's weak accusations (possibility of the argument being staged) - The janitoring of Dracar and killing of Anakin would have been a good way for him to push away suspicion from himself while shifting attention onto me and Ki-Adi (the latter pretty much being a confirmed loyalist) If Bane is a third party then we won't have lost much, in fact we could have gained something because he could possibly choose to ally with the scum on Day 3 (Dracar's allegiance is still completely unknown so using "we've already got rid of one scum so I'll join the loyals" is a terrible excuse).
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Post by bane on Jul 25, 2014 11:17:06 GMT -5
VOTE: GHOST (BANE) - One of the countless third party claimants, I don't think he is a genuine one as he seemed to claim immediately after Ki-Adi questioned him about his role, he could possibly be a scum trying to avoid conflict. - He followed Dracar very quickly on the Barriss vote & didn't produce a defence against Dracar's weak accusations (possibility of the argument being staged) - The janitoring of Dracar and killing of Anakin would have been a good way for him to push away suspicion from himself while shifting attention onto me and Ki-Adi (the latter pretty much being a confirmed loyalist) If Bane is a third party then we won't have lost much, in fact we could have gained something because he could possibly choose to ally with the scum on Day 3 (Dracar's allegiance is still completely unknown so using "we've already got rid of one scum so I'll join the loyals" is a terrible excuse). -Avoid conflict? I could have "avoided conflict" by saying nothing. That is why you're voting me, after all, because I claimed, so why would I take that risk? -What? I defended myself! But there wasn't a whole lot to say since his accusation wasn't exactly in depth. And I've Been over this before, but I'll say it again. If we were both scum, don't you think we'd have coordinated a lot better? As in ME NOT VOTE RIGHT AFTER HIS EVIDENCE WAS POSTED? How can you just ignore that? - what the ffffuuuckcccckkkk does Newan have to do with anything? And no, really no; It could have easily been used to frame me. Everyone seems to be under the impression that me and Nam had some sort of a bond, so the scum could have thought that janitoring him would make me look more suspicious when in truth he was just a loyal. Yeah, but I never really choose to be scum when I have these kinds of chances since I suck it. Although maybe I will for once if you keep making such stupid accusations... |
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Post by bane on Jul 25, 2014 11:18:23 GMT -5
And really? You think I'd go for Pinda? Honestly? Wow,.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jul 25, 2014 11:24:30 GMT -5
And really? You think I'd go for Pinda? Honestly? Wow,. Nope, but you were casting doubt on him nonetheless. |
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You're so worked up about the protector and inspector giving you a pm. Why should they have to trust you and tell everything?
. Nothing about my pm with Edge looked staged or fake. If it was why would we even make a pm if we were scum? The Upgrader role isn't scum. And yes there's a chance that Edge could have lied to me, but I rather take the chance to think that he wasn't. 
