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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 24, 2014 11:05:37 GMT -5
It's really obvious what happened here. Boba saw that people thought he was third party so he went ahead and claimed it. Easy. Actually many people thought I was scummy and I didn't reveal it straight away on Day 3. I thought that people would vote me off for it and so stayed quiet but when people asked me about it, I took the risk and decided to tell anyway. Easy. It's still just as likely, if not even more that you're a scum taking an opportunity that's gone south.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 12:01:56 GMT -5
I find it really hard to trust Boba. My trust may have been better for him if he would have voted for Ravi. I'm still kind of 50/50 on Bobby. Who are you? Castiel, the coolest angel in Heaven.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 12:07:48 GMT -5
Has it occurred to you that someone else could be scum? Castiel appeared out of nowhere and started pushing for me and defending Bobby, don't you find that a little bit suspicious? I'm a loyal helper, but still a loyal. So voting me of is stupid Castiel tends to appear out of nowhere. Yes, you look most scummy to me. I didn't defend Bobby, I'm 50/50 on him right now, but leaning towards scum. I gave a description why on day 4.
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Post by Potato on Jun 24, 2014 12:19:33 GMT -5
OOC: The way they killed Ravi was scary... Yay teamwork!
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Post by Potato on Jun 24, 2014 12:25:19 GMT -5
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Post by Star on Jun 24, 2014 12:31:43 GMT -5
What do you think? Should we vote Boba? Or do you think Legolas is a better choice? I'm leaning towards Boba, but did we actually decide who it was we were going to do?
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Post by Pinda on Jun 24, 2014 12:38:00 GMT -5
What do you think? Should we vote Boba? Or do you think Legolas is a better choice? I'm leaning towards Boba, but did we actually decide who it was we were going to do? I don't really care. They could both be scum.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 12:50:55 GMT -5
Before you vote for me. I'd like to point out how those who accuse me only look at things from their perspective, they completely ignore the possibility that I was converted despite being fine with the idea on Day 3 (along with the idea of a 2nd third party).
I have given thorough details of what my third party role entailed. And if I was indeed lying, then surely John would have called me out for it but he didn't. Also, the threat of being converted was gone at this point with Dean's death so there was no risks of him 'exposing' me, because the loyals wouldn't have voted him off most likely ( John could have easily lied about his role). But he still didn't call me out for it, the reason being simple: as my time as a third party there were hints at a 2nd third party being involved, John probably picked up on them as well.
He knew if he called me out for lying and then I was voted I would appear loyal the next day and he would get voted afterwards.
I know I don't have anything backing up my loyalty that much, like inspection results, but I think many close minded ones here want to rush into things. Truth is, they don't care whether I'm scum or loyal, they're just voting me off because it wouldn't damage them much at all due to the scum's inability to murder these last few days. Even if I were to debunk all the 'evidence' they presented, they would simply argue they were voting me for 'gathering intel' or 'just in case' . I'm actually considering abstaining from voting today but I'm not 100% sure yet
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 12:55:33 GMT -5
Before you vote for me. I'd like to point out how those who accuse me only look at things from their perspective, they completely ignore the possibility that I was converted despite being fine with the idea on Day 3 (along with the idea of a 2nd third party). I have given thorough details of what my third party role entailed. And if I was indeed lying, then surely John would have called me out for it but he didn't. Also, the threat of being converted was gone at this point with Dean's death so there was no risks of him 'exposing' me, because the loyals wouldn't have voted him off most likely ( John could have easily lied about his role). But he still didn't call me out for it, the reason being simple: as my time as a third party there were hints at a 2nd third party being involved, John probably picked up on them as well. He knew if he called me out for lying and then I was voted I would appear loyal the next day and he would get voted afterwards. I'm considering abstaining from voting today but I'm not 100% sure yet But John didn't want to be cured.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 12:59:55 GMT -5
Before you vote for me. I'd like to point out how those who accuse me only look at things from their perspective, they completely ignore the possibility that I was converted despite being fine with the idea on Day 3 (along with the idea of a 2nd third party). I have given thorough details of what my third party role entailed. And if I was indeed lying, then surely John would have called me out for it but he didn't. Also, the threat of being converted was gone at this point with Dean's death so there was no risks of him 'exposing' me, because the loyals wouldn't have voted him off most likely ( John could have easily lied about his role). But he still didn't call me out for it, the reason being simple: as my time as a third party there were hints at a 2nd third party being involved, John probably picked up on them as well. He knew if he called me out for lying and then I was voted I would appear loyal the next day and he would get voted afterwards. I'm considering abstaining from voting today but I'm not 100% sure yet But John didn't want to be cured. But Dean was already dead, so John couldn't have been cured even if everyone knew he was third party. Dean was the converter presumably and the only person able to cure third parties, with him out of the way, it would have been simple for John to dispute my claim safely. But he didn't because he knew I was loyal and a former third party
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Post by bane on Jun 24, 2014 13:12:42 GMT -5
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 13:14:11 GMT -5
I like beans
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 14:53:15 GMT -5
But John didn't want to be cured. But Dean was already dead, so John couldn't have been cured even if everyone knew he was third party. Dean was the converter presumably and the only person able to cure third parties, with him out of the way, it would have been simple for John to dispute my claim safely. But he didn't because he knew I was loyal and a former third party Well Im gonna go on a limb here and say John provably didn't want to be voted off either.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 14:54:05 GMT -5
But John didn't want to be cured. But Dean was already dead, so John couldn't have been cured even if everyone knew he was third party. Dean was the converter presumably and the only person able to cure third parties, with him out of the way, it would have been simple for John to dispute my claim safely. But he didn't because he knew I was loyal and a former third party Well Im gonna go on a limb here and say John probably didn't want to be voted off either. Because that's what would happen.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 24, 2014 14:58:25 GMT -5
But Dean was already dead, so John couldn't have been cured even if everyone knew he was third party. Dean was the converter presumably and the only person able to cure third parties, with him out of the way, it would have been simple for John to dispute my claim safely. But he didn't because he knew I was loyal and a former third party Well Im gonna go on a limb here and say John provably didn't want to be voted off either. Plottwist: His goal was to get voted off.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 24, 2014 15:00:52 GMT -5
So, we heard Boba's "defence". I want to hear one from my other main suspect Legolas too. Why did you claim the loyal friend role? I don't buy your "I misread it" argument. You'll have to do better than that to convince me you're loyal. "Loyal friend" looks nothing like "Loyal helper".
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 15:03:03 GMT -5
And Dean probably would've had some clue that there could be two 3rd parties if it were true. The only reason Wyrm claimed 3rd Party is because someone thought that might be a reason for his scummy behavior.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 15:05:20 GMT -5
But Dean was already dead, so John couldn't have been cured even if everyone knew he was third party. Dean was the converter presumably and the only person able to cure third parties, with him out of the way, it would have been simple for John to dispute my claim safely. But he didn't because he knew I was loyal and a former third party Well Im gonna go on a limb here and say John probably didn't want to be voted off either. Because that's what would happen. Unlikely. He wouldn't be voted off straight away and if he produced a good story then maybe he would have never been voted off. Many people were sceptical about my third party claim and it would have been easy for John to claim third party to get me voted off . But that never happened because he knew doing so would result himself being voted off the next day when I showed up loyal. If my claim was false then he would have most likely come forward and accused me. The next day I would show up scum and everyone would trust him as a loyal-sympathizing third party. But since I am not lying, that course of action would have been suicidal for him to take so he did not take it.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 15:09:48 GMT -5
Well Im gonna go on a limb here and say John probably didn't want to be voted off either. Because that's what would happen. Unlikely. He wouldn't be voted off straight away and if he produced a good story then maybe he would have never been voted off. Many people were sceptical about my third party claim and it would have been easy for John to claim third party to get me voted off . But that never happened because he knew doing so would result himself being voted off the next day when I showed up loyal. If my claim was false then he would have most likely come forward and accused me. The next day I would show up scum and everyone would trust him as a loyal-sympathizing third party. But since I am not lying, that course of action would have been suicidal for him to take so he did not take it. Why the f*ck would he do that? Dean said the third party needs to be taken out.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 15:10:08 GMT -5
And Dean probably would've had some clue that there could be two 3rd parties if it were true. The only reason Wyrm claimed 3rd Party is because someone thought that might be a reason for his scummy behavior. He never said there wasn't 2 third parties
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 15:12:35 GMT -5
Unlikely. He wouldn't be voted off straight away and if he produced a good story then maybe he would have never been voted off. Many people were sceptical about my third party claim and it would have been easy for John to claim third party to get me voted off . But that never happened because he knew doing so would result himself being voted off the next day when I showed up loyal. If my claim was false then he would have most likely come forward and accused me. The next day I would show up scum and everyone would trust him as a loyal-sympathizing third party. But since I am not lying, that course of action would have been suicidal for him to take so he did not take it. Why the f*ck would he do that? Dean said the third party needs to be taken out. Converted. Not taken out.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 15:13:44 GMT -5
Why the f*ck would he do that? Dean said the third party needs to be taken out. Converted. Not taken out. But with Dean dead we'd kill it.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 15:14:16 GMT -5
Wait hold on, did Dean ever say he'd convert Boba?
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Post by Star on Jun 24, 2014 15:15:10 GMT -5
Wait hold on, did Dean ever say he'd convert Boba? That's what I was asking earlier. Boba claimed he was converted, but Neaan couldn't say cause he had died on the night he was possibly going to convert Boba
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 15:15:50 GMT -5
Converted. Not taken out. But with Dean dead we'd kill it. It would be simple for John to make up a convincing story to fool us. And there would be much reluctance on voting him once he helped get rid of a scum
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 15:16:23 GMT -5
Wait hold on, did Dean ever say he'd convert Boba? I got a confirmation in my guide but Dean didn't say it no.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 15:19:49 GMT -5
Wait hold on, did Dean ever say he'd convert Boba? That's what I was asking earlier. Boba claimed he was converted, but Neaan couldn't say cause he had died on the night he was possibly going to convert Boba As a third party, the only ability I had was roleblock not murder, so I didn't murder him, if that's what you're implying. And murdering him (if I were scum) would just incriminate me.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2014 15:20:31 GMT -5
That's what I was asking earlier. Boba claimed he was converted, but Neaan couldn't say cause he had died on the night he was possibly going to convert Boba As a third party, the only ability I had was roleblock not murder, so I didn't murder him, if that's what you're implying. And murdering him (if I were scum) would just incriminate me. Well who did you roleblock?
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Post by Legolas on Jun 24, 2014 15:21:31 GMT -5
So, we heard Boba's "defence". I want to hear one from my other main suspect Legolas too. Why did you claim the loyal friend role? I don't buy your "I misread it" argument. You'll have to do better than that to convince me you're loyal. "Loyal friend" looks nothing like "Loyal helper". I wish I could come up with a better argument, but there's nothing else to it. I did misread the role. If you guys think I'm scum because of this then why didn't you just vote me off on the day I did that. It seems like you're dragging it on, which makes me think you're not totally set on me being scum.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jun 24, 2014 15:22:23 GMT -5
As a third party, the only ability I had was roleblock not murder, so I didn't murder him, if that's what you're implying. And murdering him (if I were scum) would just incriminate me. Well who did you roleblock? The Pie Guy.
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