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Post by bane on Apr 9, 2014 16:56:19 GMT -5
But you criticized and even voted others for voting star... there's not any star left to defend but you're still pretty much doing by attacking other's logic for voting him. You contacting Nam about who you suspect makes me a little less sure about you though... it doesn't seem like a scum thing to do. If you turned up Scum whoever you said you suspect would probably look more loyal.... idk. I'll probably still end up voting you. I criticized other for voting Star because they voted after his role claim and they were not at risk of being voted off. After Star claimed his role I expected everyone else to vote for me... but strangely enough they didn't... which made me suspicious of them. And if I was scum I'd never have contacted Namialus because I was basically giving him information... if I was scum he could use that information to derive who the other scum could be. Mhh, you seem to be very sure that the scum have this item. But we don't know that. But if the scum don't have it, which is rah rather likely, Star basically has a hit list. He was endangering the loyals. |
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Post by Malgus on Apr 9, 2014 16:57:36 GMT -5
But you criticized and even voted others for voting star... there's not any star left to defend but you're still pretty much doing by attacking other's logic for voting him. You contacting Nam about who you suspect makes me a little less sure about you though... it doesn't seem like a scum thing to do. If you turned up Scum whoever you said you suspect would probably look more loyal.... idk. I'll probably still end up voting you. I criticized other for voting Star because they voted after his role claim and they were not at risk of being voted off. After Star claimed his role I expected everyone else to vote for me... but strangely enough they didn't... which made me suspicious of them. And if I was scum I'd never have contacted Namialus because I was basically giving him information... if I was scum he could use that information to derive who the other scum could be. I think Star could have at least partially been lying about the nature of his role. That sort of third party has been used at least once before, at least with the third party trying to get something of value off random players. Plus the fact his role had a high chance of killing a loyal, as has been said before. Yes that why I'm hesitant... but you could have predicted that some would have a reaction like mine to this. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 16:58:01 GMT -5
The thing with the scum having the item sort of makes sense to me... But it doesn't really lead me to any other options in terms of voting besides you, since your best defense seems to be that it was either him or you. That's not an all together bad defense, but not a good one either. So you still want to vote Potato or Ivar? That's what you said before, right? Well, I've three suspects. I guess I might as well tell who they are because I'm probably getting voted off anyway. Potato is just the one I suspect the most. Because of his vote for Star... but also because of his behavior throughout the game. I'm also suspicious of Newan, I agree with Nam that he might have been trying to manipulate people... He contacted me on day 1 which immediately made me suspicious of him... I suspected he could be trying to manipulate me. But he never posted in the PM after making it... so I looked at other people first. And I guess Ivar is also suspicious for voting Star... but he's only my third suspect. I wouldn't be certain enough about him to get him voted off now. Well too bad you didn't give me a decent answer so I thought it wasn't worth bothering.... |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 16:58:50 GMT -5
I criticized other for voting Star because they voted after his role claim and they were not at risk of being voted off. After Star claimed his role I expected everyone else to vote for me... but strangely enough they didn't... which made me suspicious of them. And if I was scum I'd never have contacted Namialus because I was basically giving him information... if I was scum he could use that information to derive who the other scum could be. Mhh, you seem to be very sure that the scum have this item. But we don't know that. But if the scum don't have it, which is rah rather likely, Star basically has a hit list. He was endangering the loyals. No loyalists has claimed to have an item yet. I don't think it was one of the convicted people since Maverick seemed disappointed when Star got voted off (why would he be disappointed in Star already failed anyway?). So either Boba has it, the scum have it or no one ever had it at all... |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 16:59:43 GMT -5
Well, I've three suspects. I guess I might as well tell who they are because I'm probably getting voted off anyway. Potato is just the one I suspect the most. Because of his vote for Star... but also because of his behavior throughout the game. I'm also suspicious of Newan, I agree with Nam that he might have been trying to manipulate people... He contacted me on day 1 which immediately made me suspicious of him... I suspected he could be trying to manipulate me. But he never posted in the PM after making it... so I looked at other people first. And I guess Ivar is also suspicious for voting Star... but he's only my third suspect. I wouldn't be certain enough about him to get him voted off now. Well too bad you didn't give me a decent answer so I thought it wasn't worth bothering.... Indeed. But I still had the feeling you intended to manipulate me. But my reply gave you little reason to do so. |
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Post by bane on Apr 9, 2014 17:00:29 GMT -5
The thing with the scum having the item sort of makes sense to me... But it doesn't really lead me to any other options in terms of voting besides you, since your best defense seems to be that it was either him or you. That's not an all together bad defense, but not a good one either. So you still want to vote Potato or Ivar? That's what you said before, right? Well, I've three suspects. I guess I might as well tell who they are because I'm probably getting voted off anyway. Potato is just the one I suspect the most. Because of his vote for Star... but also because of his behavior throughout the game. I'm also suspicious of Newan, I agree with Nam that he might have been trying to manipulate people... He contacted me on day 1 which immediately made me suspicious of him... I suspected he could be trying to manipulate me. But he never posted in the PM after making it... so I looked at other people first. And I guess Ivar is also suspicious for voting Star... but he's only my third suspect. I wouldn't be certain enough about him to get him voted off now. Newan had like five PMs in every game. This may be OOC evidence, but it's just sort of how he plays. And what do you mean, "but also because of his behavior throughout the game?" Please explain this more. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 17:00:46 GMT -5
Actually the odds the scum had this "item" is very slim. And Stars role is a copy off of another game and I believe it's to cover up his real goal as people believed Spider when he revealed a similar role in the 2nd omega game but the items that game moved around every night so it doesn't seem likely that one person would hold onto an ONE "item" forever... It's too easy and not very convincing.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:01:05 GMT -5
Well too bad you didn't give me a decent answer so I thought it wasn't worth bothering.... Indeed. But I still had the feeling you intended to manipulate me. But my reply gave you little reason to do so. Besides I think your intention was to manipulate me into voting Nam since the PM was called Nam, who later claimed the inspector role... so you couldn't even manipulate me into voting Nam anymore. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:02:25 GMT -5
Actually the odds the scum had this "item" is very slim. And Stars role is a copy off of another game and I believe it's to cover up his real goal as people believed Spider when he revealed a similar role in the 2nd omega game but the items that game moved around every night so it doesn't seem likely that one person would hold onto an ONE "item" forever... It's too easy and not very convincing. Why would it be slim? I think it would be more interesting to give such item to the scum than to give it to the loyalists... |
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 17:03:10 GMT -5
Well, I've three suspects. I guess I might as well tell who they are because I'm probably getting voted off anyway. Potato is just the one I suspect the most. Because of his vote for Star... but also because of his behavior throughout the game. I'm also suspicious of Newan, I agree with Nam that he might have been trying to manipulate people... He contacted me on day 1 which immediately made me suspicious of him... I suspected he could be trying to manipulate me. But he never posted in the PM after making it... so I looked at other people first. And I guess Ivar is also suspicious for voting Star... but he's only my third suspect. I wouldn't be certain enough about him to get him voted off now. Newan had like five PMs in every game. This may be OOC evidence, but it's just sort of how he plays. And what do you mean, "but also because of his behavior throughout the game?" Please explain this more. Yeah I have a PM with you as well if people really want to know... You wait he has a PM... MUST BE MANIPULATION. No I actually believe in something called "allies" it helps a lot. Trust me people should try it sometime rather than just me it's pretty good and very beneficial. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:03:19 GMT -5
Well, I've three suspects. I guess I might as well tell who they are because I'm probably getting voted off anyway. Potato is just the one I suspect the most. Because of his vote for Star... but also because of his behavior throughout the game. I'm also suspicious of Newan, I agree with Nam that he might have been trying to manipulate people... He contacted me on day 1 which immediately made me suspicious of him... I suspected he could be trying to manipulate me. But he never posted in the PM after making it... so I looked at other people first. And I guess Ivar is also suspicious for voting Star... but he's only my third suspect. I wouldn't be certain enough about him to get him voted off now. Newan had like five PMs in every game. This may be OOC evidence, but it's just sort of how he plays. And what do you mean, "but also because of his behavior throughout the game?" Please explain this more. It's hard to explain. It's just a feeling I have... and his vote for Star strengthen my suspicion... |
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Post by Namialus on Apr 9, 2014 17:04:19 GMT -5
Who else is there, other than Farrow? Pooj? You stated that we do not have any evidence against Farrow, and yet the only evidence we have against Pooj is that he is inactive.
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 17:04:34 GMT -5
Indeed. But I still had the feeling you intended to manipulate me. But my reply gave you little reason to do so. Besides I think your intention was to manipulate me into voting Nam since the PM was called Nam, who later claimed the inspector role... so you couldn't even manipulate me into voting Nam anymore. Nah I was asking what you thought of Nam day 1. I found him suspcious cause he seemed to strive too hard to make everyone work and he seemed like he was taking control ... |
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Post by bane on Apr 9, 2014 17:05:07 GMT -5
Newan had like five PMs in every game. This may be OOC evidence, but it's just sort of how he plays. And what do you mean, "but also because of his behavior throughout the game?" Please explain this more. It's hard to explain. It's just a feeling I have... and his vote for Star strengthen my suspicion... I don't like these "feelings" people always seem to have... Was it something in a PM? Or what? |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:05:16 GMT -5
Newan had like five PMs in every game. This may be OOC evidence, but it's just sort of how he plays. And what do you mean, "but also because of his behavior throughout the game?" Please explain this more. Yeah I have a PM with you as well if people really want to know... You wait he has a PM... MUST BE MANIPULATION. No I actually believe in something called "allies" it helps a lot. Trust me people should try it sometime rather than just me it's pretty good and very beneficial. So, why was the PM called Nam? And why did you make a PM with me in which you said "I know you havnt been very active which has caught my attention but if you're falling along well enough" While not much later your accuse me for being inactive? |
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Post by Namialus on Apr 9, 2014 17:05:47 GMT -5
Besides I think your intention was to manipulate me into voting Nam since the PM was called Nam, who later claimed the inspector role... so you couldn't even manipulate me into voting Nam anymore. Nah I was asking what you thought of Nam day 1. I found him suspcious cause he seemed to strive too hard to make everyone work and he seemed like he was taking control ... I would not be surprised if you attempted to manipulate him against me. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 17:06:30 GMT -5
Newan had like five PMs in every game. This may be OOC evidence, but it's just sort of how he plays. And what do you mean, "but also because of his behavior throughout the game?" Please explain this more. It's hard to explain. It's just a feeling I have... and his vote for Star strengthen my suspicion... LOLOLOLOL.... The... OMG it's just so hilarious... You voted a Star for the reason it was you or him.... Yeah... You do know Bane voted Star day 1 as well? Is he scum for voting Star which you also voted? |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:06:56 GMT -5
It's hard to explain. It's just a feeling I have... and his vote for Star strengthen my suspicion... I don't like these "feelings" people always seem to have... Was it something in a PM? Or what? No. I know it isn't the best proof and I can't use it to convince you to vote for Potato. But it is what convinced ME to vote for Potato. |
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Post by bane on Apr 9, 2014 17:07:33 GMT -5
Who else is there, other than Farrow? Pooj? You stated that we do not have any evidence against Farrow, and yet the only evidence we have against Pooj is that he is inactive. The only evidence you seem to have is that he responded oddly to a PM. I don't think he did, and I saw the whole thing. That's pretty much how I would have responded. |
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Post by Malgus on Apr 9, 2014 17:07:45 GMT -5
Who else is there, other than Farrow? Pooj? You stated that we do not have any evidence against Farrow, and yet the only evidence we have against Pooj is that he is inactive. The reasons for his inactivity were questionable... I believe he said he couldn't get in to the game and wasn't caught up on the discussion? |
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 17:07:47 GMT -5
Yeah I have a PM with you as well if people really want to know... You wait he has a PM... MUST BE MANIPULATION. No I actually believe in something called "allies" it helps a lot. Trust me people should try it sometime rather than just me it's pretty good and very beneficial. So, why was the PM called Nam? And why did you make a PM with me in which you said "I know you havnt been very active which has caught my attention but if you're falling along well enough" While not much later your accuse me for being inactive? I believe you're usually active in terms of kinda paying attention but you don't always comment. Because I made other PMs with others asking about you. |
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Post by bane on Apr 9, 2014 17:09:06 GMT -5
I don't like these "feelings" people always seem to have... Was it something in a PM? Or what? No. I know it isn't the best proof and I can't use it to convince you to vote for Potato. But it is what convinced ME to vote for Potato. All right then. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:09:34 GMT -5
It's hard to explain. It's just a feeling I have... and his vote for Star strengthen my suspicion... LOLOLOLOL.... The... OMG it's just so hilarious... You voted a Star for the reason it was you or him.... Yeah... You do know Bane voted Star day 1 as well? Is he scum for voting Star which you also voted? If you knew it was either you or Malgus today (just a random examples) wouldn't you vote Malgus knowing that your vote could make the difference between getting yourself convicted or getting somebody else convicted? And no Bane voted for Star on day 1, he was unaware of his role, so it's not suspicious. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 17:11:23 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOL.... The... OMG it's just so hilarious... You voted a Star for the reason it was you or him.... Yeah... You do know Bane voted Star day 1 as well? Is he scum for voting Star which you also voted? If you knew it was either you or Malgus today (just a random examples) wouldn't you vote Malgus knowing that your vote could make the difference between getting yourself convicted or getting somebody else convicted? And no Bane voted for Star on day 1, he was unaware of his role, so it's not suspicious. You do know Star revealed his role AFTER I voted him... And no I wouldn't simply vote Malgus cause that's not what I do unless I truly believe he's scum. I didn't do it with Porg in Omega for example or in Pirates and I don't really plan on doing it now. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:11:30 GMT -5
Who else is there, other than Farrow? Pooj? You stated that we do not have any evidence against Farrow, and yet the only evidence we have against Pooj is that he is inactive. The reasons for his inactivity were questionable... I believe he said he couldn't get in to the game and wasn't caught up on the discussion? Yes, that is why I was inactive on day 1 and most of day 2. I'm sometimes less active on day 1 as a loyalist because it's usually just guessing. And I was inactive for other reasons I don't really feel like discussing yesterday. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:12:27 GMT -5
If you knew it was either you or Malgus today (just a random examples) wouldn't you vote Malgus knowing that your vote could make the difference between getting yourself convicted or getting somebody else convicted? And no Bane voted for Star on day 1, he was unaware of his role, so it's not suspicious. You do know Star revealed his role AFTER I voted him... And no I wouldn't simply vote Malgus cause that's not what I do unless I truly believe he's scum. I didn't do it with Porg in Omega for example or in Pirates and I don't really plan on doing it now. I never said I suspected you because you voted for Star. I suspect Potato for that reason. And I think you would have voted for him if it could save your live, whether you were scum or loyal. Because getting voted off does never benefit you or your team. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 9, 2014 17:13:32 GMT -5
No. I know it isn't the best proof and I can't use it to convince you to vote for Potato. But it is what convinced ME to vote for Potato. All right then. I did have the Star-vote proof too... but I decided to vote for Potato and not Ivar or Newan because I had a bad feeling about Potato. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 9, 2014 17:14:21 GMT -5
You do know Star revealed his role AFTER I voted him... And no I wouldn't simply vote Malgus cause that's not what I do unless I truly believe he's scum. I didn't do it with Porg in Omega for example or in Pirates and I don't really plan on doing it now. I never said I suspected you because you voted for Star. I suspect Potato for that reason. And I think you would have voted for him if it could save your live, whether you were scum or loyal. Because getting voted off does never benefit you or your team. No I wouldn't vote anyone cause of that I never have and I won't start doing it. I would rather convince people that I'm right for the next day rather than follow a vote that could save me but I'm not actually contributing at all..... |
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Post by Malgus on Apr 9, 2014 17:15:00 GMT -5
The reasons for his inactivity were questionable... I believe he said he couldn't get in to the game and wasn't caught up on the discussion? Yes, that is why I was inactive on day 1 and most of day 2. I'm sometimes less active on day 1 as a loyalist because it's usually just guessing. And I was inactive for other reasons I don't really feel like discussing yesterday. Well okay. There's also just the fact that between you and Newan you just seem a little more scummy... if I was forced to chose. And I pretty much DO have to chose what with voting. But what's this about Newan's PM to you being titled "Nam"? I assume you're categorizing that as an early manipulation attempt? |
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Post by bane on Apr 9, 2014 17:15:59 GMT -5
VOTE: PINDA
I see no better options. There isn't much evidence against anyone, but I think this is our best shot.
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