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Post by Newan on Mar 9, 2014 10:00:10 GMT -5
To be honest I'm not sure I would call it much of a war anymore these episodes in the bonus content really show it's just a one man parade led by Palpatine.... Politics are part of every war. But is it a war with hardly anything at stake? The CIS pretty much loses nothing if they lose the war just a bunch of wasted battle droids. And on the other side expendable clones some like Fives are cool but in the grand scale they're all expendable.... |
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Post by Potato on Mar 9, 2014 21:49:57 GMT -5
Watching the Yoda and Anakin vs. Sidious fight again on Youtube, I like it a lot more than I originally did. It's a nice final lightsaber duel for the show.
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Post by Potato on Mar 9, 2014 22:20:21 GMT -5
Watching the Yoda and Anakin vs. Sidious fight again on Youtube, I like it a lot more than I originally did. It's a nice final lightsaber duel for the show. And I just fully watched Sacrifice again. It's a nice episode, and Yoda's last words in it are great. It makes you feel that, even though you know the jedi in that time are doomed, there's still hope for them. |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 0:22:36 GMT -5
Watching the Yoda and Anakin vs. Sidious fight again on Youtube, I like it a lot more than I originally did. It's a nice final lightsaber duel for the show. And I just fully watched Sacrifice again. It's a nice episode, and Yoda's last words in it are great. It makes you feel that, even though you know the jedi in that time are doomed, there's still hope for them. To be honest I have less pity for the Jedi that die at order 66 there blindness brought this upon themselves not Sidious. And I thought the Anakin and Obi-Wan vs Dooku was very well done it like the Maul vs Viszla felt like a more realistic duel. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 10, 2014 16:39:31 GMT -5
Just watched this whole arc for the first time in its entirety.
I have no words right now, no words.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 10, 2014 16:44:23 GMT -5
This arc is one of the best if not the best of the entire show.
I want to talk about it so badly but i have no idea where to begin. I am certain i will not find the words how to describe this arc and the ending of one of my all time favorite shows.
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 16:58:14 GMT -5
This arc is one of the best if not the best of the entire show. I want to talk about it so badly but i have no idea where to begin. I am certain i will not find the words how to describe this arc and the ending of one of my all time favorite shows. Well you could start with epic Anakin and Obi Wan vs Dooku  |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 10, 2014 17:09:12 GMT -5
This arc is one of the best if not the best of the entire show. I want to talk about it so badly but i have no idea where to begin. I am certain i will not find the words how to describe this arc and the ending of one of my all time favorite shows. Well you could start with epic Anakin and Obi Wan vs Dooku I find a discussion about Yoda's trials and the Force itself more in order for this arc then the duel itself. The duel was fantastic and one of best of the show but the storytelling around the trails and the force was the most important and most effective of everything ever produced from SW. Also, LIAM NEESON But i must say the Force elements stood out the most of all. Never before have we been given so much insight into the Force and the Midichlorians. We visited the goddamn heart of the Force, how awesome and crucial is that!?  The Force Priestess were fantastic just together with their reveal they are dead and like all, and i mean literally ALL animation. This arc had the best animation of the entire show. Mark Hamill as Darth Bane was super awesome, hopefully this means his conformation for Episode VII is all the more possible now that he has returned to SW. Too bad i don't know who Darth Bane is but that EU i will now consider Canon, just like the deleted death scene of Shaak Ti. There is still so much to talk about where do i even begin. This arc, together with the Order 66 arc were the most important and most crucial storylines EVER produced on the Clone Wars! |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 17:20:48 GMT -5
Well you could start with epic Anakin and Obi Wan vs Dooku I find a discussion about Yoda's trials and the Force itself more in order for this arc then the duel itself. The duel was fantastic and one of best of the show but the storytelling around the trails and the force was the most important and most effective of everything ever produced from SW. Also, LIAM NEESON But i must say the Force elements stood out the most of all. Never before have we been given so much insight into the Force and the Midichlorians. We visited the goddamn heart of the Force, how awesome and crucial is that!? The Force Priestess were fantastic just together with their reveal they are dead and like all, and i mean literally ALL animation. This arc had the best animation of the entire show. Mark Hamill as Darth Bane was super awesome, hopefully this means his conformation for Episode VII is all the more possible now that he has returned to SW. Too bad i don't know who Darth Bane is but that EU i will now consider Canon, just like the deleted death scene of Shaak Ti. There is still so much to talk about where do i even begin. This arc, together with the Order 66 arc were the most important and most crucial storylines EVER produced on the Clone Wars! Finally someone that realizes these arcs are a lot more important than Ahsokas arc and understands that Ahsoka had a perfect ending and does not need to come back at least not for TCW. Liam Neeson did very good with his return to Qui Gon and I wish Qui Gon survived TPM I have to say he was one if the bright spots in that movie even if a lot of the stuff he did don't make sense or seem logical. I think Hamill will be in episode 7 and I'm pretty sure he could have a part in rebels as well. Plus most of the EU is canon  |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 10, 2014 17:29:44 GMT -5
I find a discussion about Yoda's trials and the Force itself more in order for this arc then the duel itself. The duel was fantastic and one of best of the show but the storytelling around the trails and the force was the most important and most effective of everything ever produced from SW. Also, LIAM NEESON But i must say the Force elements stood out the most of all. Never before have we been given so much insight into the Force and the Midichlorians. We visited the goddamn heart of the Force, how awesome and crucial is that!? The Force Priestess were fantastic just together with their reveal they are dead and like all, and i mean literally ALL animation. This arc had the best animation of the entire show. Mark Hamill as Darth Bane was super awesome, hopefully this means his conformation for Episode VII is all the more possible now that he has returned to SW. Too bad i don't know who Darth Bane is but that EU i will now consider Canon, just like the deleted death scene of Shaak Ti. There is still so much to talk about where do i even begin. This arc, together with the Order 66 arc were the most important and most crucial storylines EVER produced on the Clone Wars! Finally someone that realizes these arcs are a lot more important than Ahsokas arc and understands that Ahsoka had a perfect ending and does not need to come back at least not for TCW. Liam Neeson did very good with his return to Qui Gon and I wish Qui Gon survived TPM I have to say he was one if the bright spots in that movie even if a lot of the stuff he did don't make sense or seem logical. I think Hamill will be in episode 7 and I'm pretty sure he could have a part in rebels as well. Plus most of the EU is canon I don't care for EU and consider it Non-Canon until the Movies or TCW (and soon Rebels) confirms it. The Ahsoka Arc was extremely important, but for TCW itself. Order 66 and Yoda Arc (could also be called Force Arc) is important for Ep III and everything else that has happened and is yet to come. The Yoda Arc is probably the most important, most well written, best animation and just outstanding story arc for any tv show of all time. Qui Gon is one of my favourite characters ever so it was so awesome to hear his voice again (who doesn't love Liam Neeson?) and seeing all those visions and the return of (vision) Ahsoka and the Younglins was super awesome and unexpected. Everything in this arc was perfect. I love it when a giant story gets tackled with such deep meaning and visual grandeur. It is hard to explain what i mean but this arc is just perfect and might just be the best arc of the entire series. |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 17:35:11 GMT -5
Finally someone that realizes these arcs are a lot more important than Ahsokas arc and understands that Ahsoka had a perfect ending and does not need to come back at least not for TCW. Liam Neeson did very good with his return to Qui Gon and I wish Qui Gon survived TPM I have to say he was one if the bright spots in that movie even if a lot of the stuff he did don't make sense or seem logical. I think Hamill will be in episode 7 and I'm pretty sure he could have a part in rebels as well. Plus most of the EU is canon I don't care for EU and consider it Non-Canon until the Movies or TCW (and soon Rebels) confirms it. The Ahsoka Arc was extremely important, but for TCW itself. Order 66 and Yoda Arc (could also be called Force Arc) is important for Ep III and everything else that has happened and is yet to come. The Yoda Arc is probably the most important, most well written, best animation and just outstanding story arc for any tv show of all time. Qui Gon is one of my favourite characters ever so it was so awesome to hear his voice again (who doesn't love Liam Neeson?) and seeing all those visions and the return of (vision) Ahsoka and the Younglins was super awesome and unexpected. Everything in this arc was perfect. I love it when a giant story gets tackled with such deep meaning and visual grandeur. It is hard to explain what i mean but this arc is just perfect and might just be the best arc of the entire series. Well what people consider non canon isn't true to what is actually canon  Any arc that ties into episode 3 or the rest of Star Wars in general I would consider more important that Ahsoka arc. And I agree that this arc had the best animation and voice acting And I think for me it's a good up between this one and Order 66 for the best arc of the series. Probably this one since it had more story and characters and wasn't really confined to just Fives (which was still interesting). |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 10, 2014 17:40:37 GMT -5
I don't care for EU and consider it Non-Canon until the Movies or TCW (and soon Rebels) confirms it. The Ahsoka Arc was extremely important, but for TCW itself. Order 66 and Yoda Arc (could also be called Force Arc) is important for Ep III and everything else that has happened and is yet to come. The Yoda Arc is probably the most important, most well written, best animation and just outstanding story arc for any tv show of all time. Qui Gon is one of my favourite characters ever so it was so awesome to hear his voice again (who doesn't love Liam Neeson?) and seeing all those visions and the return of (vision) Ahsoka and the Younglins was super awesome and unexpected. Everything in this arc was perfect. I love it when a giant story gets tackled with such deep meaning and visual grandeur. It is hard to explain what i mean but this arc is just perfect and might just be the best arc of the entire series. Well what people consider non canon isn't true to what is actually canon Any arc that ties into episode 3 or the rest of Star Wars in general I would consider more important that Ahsoka arc. And I agree that this arc had the best animation and voice acting Not all EU is canon though, just some. But i will always consider EU non-canon until i have confirmation from one of the mediums that watch wich is directly created by Lucasfilm itself, like TCW, the Films and Rebels. I think for me it's a good up between this one and Order 66 for the best arc of the series. Probably this one since it had more story and characters and wasn't really confined to just Fives (which was still interesting). On a story level alone this arc beats every other storyline on this Series. But then it just beats them all again with Voice-Acting, Importance and Visuals. I will say now that this is best arc in the show and the Ahsoka Arc is my second favorite (wich was my favorite at first but Yoda beat it) Ahsoka Arc is very, very important because it end the character development of one of SW best characters and does infact tie in with Episode III due to the absence of Ahsoka and more distrust and rage from Anakin. EDIT: Gotta go to bed now, see ya |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 18:05:32 GMT -5
Well what people consider non canon isn't true to what is actually canon Any arc that ties into episode 3 or the rest of Star Wars in general I would consider more important that Ahsoka arc. And I agree that this arc had the best animation and voice acting Not all EU is canon though, just some. But i will always consider EU non-canon until i have confirmation from one of the mediums that watch wich is directly created by Lucasfilm itself, like TCW, the Films and Rebels. I think for me it's a good up between this one and Order 66 for the best arc of the series. Probably this one since it had more story and characters and wasn't really confined to just Fives (which was still interesting). On a story level alone this arc beats every other storyline on this Series. But then it just beats them all again with Voice-Acting, Importance and Visuals. I will say now that this is best arc in the show and the Ahsoka Arc is my second favorite (wich was my favorite at first but Yoda beat it) Ahsoka Arc is very, very important because it end the character development of one of SW best characters and does infact tie in with Episode III due to the absence of Ahsoka and more distrust and rage from Anakin. EDIT: Gotta go to bed now, see ya Yes is agree about this arc but I fail to see how Ahsokas absence in episode 3 is much of a factor she wasn't around at all when episode 3 was released and even if she was a Jedi she wouldn't be able to stop anything and would die like the others... |
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Post by Potato on Mar 10, 2014 18:07:14 GMT -5
I think Ahsoka's story should have been left where it was. Maybe have her return a couple more times as the main or secondary character in some arcs, but I don't think she should have had any more major stories. Although it looks like she was going to, but they still could have been good of course depending on what happened.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 10, 2014 20:57:54 GMT -5
Holy crap that was awesome! So yoda regardes all of that as a fake? And I am confused what was a vision and what was not in Sacrifce
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 21:15:51 GMT -5
It would of been awesome if Terence stamp came back for volorum.
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Post by Potato on Mar 10, 2014 21:58:18 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Tim Curry's Sidious voice is really creepy? I still think Ian Abercrombie's is better, but Curry's Sidious voice is better than his Palpatine's at least and it really sounds sinister and evil.
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Post by Namialus on Mar 11, 2014 10:21:44 GMT -5
I think Ahsoka's story should have been left where it was. Maybe have her return a couple more times as the main or secondary character in some arcs, but I don't think she should have had any more major stories. Although it looks like she was going to, but they still could have been good of course depending on what happened. I want more stories with her because I think she'll be awesome without the limits of the Order. She'll do her own thing and be more independent. After all, she is the main character of the show. |
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Post by Namialus on Mar 11, 2014 10:22:09 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Tim Curry's Sidious voice is really creepy? I still think Ian Abercrombie's is better, but Curry's Sidious voice is better than his Palpatine's at least and it really sounds sinister and evil. I liked Tim Curry. I prefer his Sidious over Ian's Sidious to be honest, but Ian as Palpatine was still so great. |
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Post by Namialus on Mar 11, 2014 10:23:50 GMT -5
Holy crap that was awesome! So yoda regardes all of that as a fake? And I am confused what was a vision and what was not in Sacrifce Most of it was a vision, especially the duel with Sidious. Sidious used the ritual to make Yoda see that. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 11, 2014 15:14:22 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Tim Curry's Sidious voice is really creepy? I still think Ian Abercrombie's is better, but Curry's Sidious voice is better than his Palpatine's at least and it really sounds sinister and evil. I am happy i am not the only one that thought Curry was great. I thought he was pretty good in Wrong Jedi already but his Sidious was most perfect(excluding Abercormbie, no one can beat that) |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 11, 2014 15:47:34 GMT -5
I have given out 10's before, but never so many within the same storyline: The Lost One - 9.5/10 Voices - 10/10 Destiny - 10/10 Sacrifice - 10/10 Best arc ever! Goodbye Clone Wars. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 11, 2014 17:55:11 GMT -5
Anyone else caught that the choir voice in the music when Yoda jumps over the floating plants quickly says "Yoda" at the end of the track.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 23:14:04 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Tim Curry's Sidious voice is really creepy? I still think Ian Abercrombie's is better, but Curry's Sidious voice is better than his Palpatine's at least and it really sounds sinister and evil. I like it a lot better. |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 12, 2014 3:46:08 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Tim Curry's Sidious voice is really creepy? I still think Ian Abercrombie's is better, but Curry's Sidious voice is better than his Palpatine's at least and it really sounds sinister and evil. I don't like his voice at all. While it does sound sinister and evil, it doesn't sound like Sidious/Palpatine at all. This voice is better: As Palpatine and as Sidious. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 12, 2014 17:49:52 GMT -5
Holy crap that was awesome! So yoda regardes all of that as a fake? And I am confused what was a vision and what was not in Sacrifce Most of it was a vision, especially the duel with Sidious. Sidious used the ritual to make Yoda see that. Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but why would Sidious make yoda see that. Doesn't he not want to be discovered? And what the heck about the " nothing to report, there is" bullPotato Rules? you can report: know where Dooku goes to meet Sidious, Tell that Sidious is indeed the master, and much more. |
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Post by Namialus on Mar 12, 2014 17:55:36 GMT -5
Most of it was a vision, especially the duel with Sidious. Sidious used the ritual to make Yoda see that. Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but why would Sidious make yoda see that. Doesn't he not want to be discovered? And what the heck about the " nothing to report, there is" bullPotato Rules? you can report: know where Dooku goes to meet Sidious, Tell that Sidious is indeed the master, and much more. He wants to break Yoda's mind and ruin him. |
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 12, 2014 17:58:00 GMT -5
Most of it was a vision, especially the duel with Sidious. Sidious used the ritual to make Yoda see that. Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but why would Sidious make yoda see that. Doesn't he not want to be discovered? And what the heck about the " nothing to report, there is" bullPotato Rules? you can report: know where Dooku goes to meet Sidious, Tell that Sidious is indeed the master, and much more. Sidious wanted to "see things" basically get more info on why Yoda was on Morriband what he was up to And Yoda was just trolling the Jedi when he said there was nothing to report.. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 12, 2014 18:05:53 GMT -5
Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but why would Sidious make yoda see that. Doesn't he not want to be discovered? And what the heck about the " nothing to report, there is" bullPotato Rules? you can report: know where Dooku goes to meet Sidious, Tell that Sidious is indeed the master, and much more. Sidious wanted to "see things" basically get more info on why Yoda was on Morriband what he was up to And Yoda was just trolling the Jedi when he said there was nothing to report.. Lol I think they believed him though... |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 16, 2014 10:26:37 GMT -5
One thing i am still thinking about is that Yoda saw a vision of the Jedi being killed by Clones and Sidious but it was never erased.
Does he think it was just symbolism? Does he think it is future, or something that could happen in the future (because always in motion, the future is) or does he just regard it as another false vision as the Force Priestess's and Sidious gave him?
I might have missed this but i don't think Yoda would just glance of that. I first thought when i read the episode title of "Sacrifice" it meant sacrificing all the information he had learned but it turned out i was wrong. So he still saw the vision, the vision that told him of Sidious's exsistence, but also that of the Clones turning on the Jedi.
I probably explained this like a dumb*** but it just something that is still on my mind.
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The Force Priestess were fantastic just together with their reveal they are dead and like all, and i mean literally ALL animation. This arc had the best animation of the entire show. Mark Hamill as Darth Bane was super awesome, hopefully this means his conformation for Episode VII is all the more possible now that he has returned to SW. Too bad i don't know who Darth Bane is but that EU i will now consider Canon, just like the deleted death scene of Shaak Ti. 
