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Post by Kenbo on Mar 10, 2014 13:06:36 GMT -5
I don't think so because we can assume he died or was just there somewhere because at the end of the day he's just another clone.. It's harder to assume Maul died because not only do we know there were other plans for him but also he's kind of hard to kill... And if he was still alive, why wasn't he in any of the later movies I think it's safe to say Maul dies... Well of course he probably eventually did but I'm saying he's a bigger loose end |
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 10, 2014 15:49:24 GMT -5
I'd say it was better than any arc of season 5 I disagree. The Maul and Ahsoka arcs were definitely better in my opinion. *RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SLAUGHTERS MANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY IS HE!!!!!!!!!!!!* Fives=Best MAN ever to walk the planets of the galaxy and I will miss him dearly. Most emotional arc ever.  |
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 10, 2014 15:50:49 GMT -5
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 10, 2014 15:54:11 GMT -5
I have just finished watching the arc again. The Kaminoans were not telling the truth at all. The lesser agression is just a lie, they know full well what the chip does as you can see in Lama Su and Nala Se's first tranmissions to Dooku. Dooku calls it a 'safety measure' incase the Jedi turn. Again, the chip didn't cause any effects on Fives, remember, it was removed. Second, the Drug made him weak and confused wich added up to his level of frustration and desperation as i said earlier. Everything Fives did was justified, only no one believed him and he couldn't do anything without being afraid of getting caught or killed. It was a most dire situation that would put anyone on edge. You know that feeling when you tell the truth and no one believes you? Now multiple this by a hundred. That was perfectly displayed here (especially in Orders) because not only did Fives discover a hidden chip in all clones, he also disovered Sidious's identity and everything about his plans and Order 66. He was put on edge and was forced to the breaking point. Everything is deeper then you might think. Just think of it, Fives could have saved the entire galaxy an age of the Empire wich makes his death all the more tragic. It was perfectly done and one of the saddest and most tragic deaths on any TV shows and Film ever because of the heavy weight it carries. I'm pretty sure the ship did affect them a bit. As Newan said, it kept them less aggressive compared to Jango Fett (that was even mentioned in AOTC I think). I think it possibly could have got to his head after being out for a while. Maybe not that, but the drug Nala Se put into him definitely affected him. It made him more confused and disoriented and not able to take in his surroundings well. Otherwise it would have been pointless. I think it definitely messed with his head during Orders and caused his craziness. Yes, he was stressed that no one believed him, but the drug added to that by a lot. *Facepalms* IT'S THE ORDER 66 CHIP YOU IDIOTS NOT AN INHIBITOR  |
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 10, 2014 15:56:23 GMT -5
I will then I was planning on rewatching the order 66 arc tonight. I already watched Yoda arc again today. Maybe I'll watch the Clovis one as well again tonight. I still need to watch the final two episodes of the Yoda Arc but all the audio is out of synch on Episodes 8,9,10,11 and 12 so i am currently working on restoring the audio synching and trying to keep the HD qaulity intact. I watch on watchcartoononline.com and the first video is out of synch and the other doesn't work that well. It still works fine for me. Gonna watch the arc after order 66 today!  |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 10, 2014 16:00:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the ship did affect them a bit. As Newan said, it kept them less aggressive compared to Jango Fett (that was even mentioned in AOTC I think). I think it possibly could have got to his head after being out for a while. Maybe not that, but the drug Nala Se put into him definitely affected him. It made him more confused and disoriented and not able to take in his surroundings well. Otherwise it would have been pointless. I think it definitely messed with his head during Orders and caused his craziness. Yes, he was stressed that no one believed him, but the drug added to that by a lot. *Facepalms* IT'S THE ORDER 66 CHIP YOU IDIOTS NOT AN INHIBITOR It's an inhibitor chip. |
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 10, 2014 16:07:30 GMT -5
*Facepalms* IT'S THE ORDER 66 CHIP YOU IDIOTS NOT AN INHIBITOR It's an inhibitor chip. The kaminoan LIED!!!!! *facepalms again* |
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Post by Potato on Mar 10, 2014 16:22:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the ship did affect them a bit. As Newan said, it kept them less aggressive compared to Jango Fett (that was even mentioned in AOTC I think). I think it possibly could have got to his head after being out for a while. Maybe not that, but the drug Nala Se put into him definitely affected him. It made him more confused and disoriented and not able to take in his surroundings well. Otherwise it would have been pointless. I think it definitely messed with his head during Orders and caused his craziness. Yes, he was stressed that no one believed him, but the drug added to that by a lot. *Facepalms* IT'S THE ORDER 66 CHIP YOU IDIOTS NOT AN INHIBITOR *Facepalms* IT'S CALLED THE INHIBITOR CHIP IDIOT WATCH THE EPISODE. |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 16:29:41 GMT -5
*Facepalms* IT'S THE ORDER 66 CHIP YOU IDIOTS NOT AN INHIBITOR *Facepalms* IT'S CALLED THE INHIBITOR CHIP IDIOT WATCH THE EPISODE. It clearly stated Inhibitor... |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 16:30:12 GMT -5
And it's purposes good beyond that of order 66.
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 10, 2014 17:48:42 GMT -5
*Facepalms* IT'S CALLED THE INHIBITOR CHIP IDIOT WATCH THE EPISODE. It clearly stated Inhibitor... *double faceplam* I watched the episode the kaminoan was lying.  |
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 10, 2014 17:52:06 GMT -5
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Post by Potato on Mar 10, 2014 17:59:08 GMT -5
It clearly stated Inhibitor... *double faceplam* I watched the episode the kaminoan was lying. I'm sure Nala Se was lying about parts of it, but it really was called an inhibitor chip. It contained the orders for "protocol" 66 on there, and it also probably helped make the clones less violent when compared to Jango Fett. But it was still actually called an inhibitor chip. |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 18:06:50 GMT -5
If the official name was "order 66 chip" that wouldn't be suspcious would it?
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Post by Pinda on Mar 10, 2014 18:12:37 GMT -5
If the official name was "order 66 chip" that wouldn't be suspcious would it? Actually, I think the Jedi council might have ignored that. They aren't exactly smart... |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 18:14:44 GMT -5
If the official name was "order 66 chip" that wouldn't be suspcious would it? Actually, I think the Jedi council might have ignored that. They aren't exactly smart... Probably actually Shaak Ti was really dumb in this arc  |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 10, 2014 18:15:54 GMT -5
Actually, I think the Jedi council might have ignored that. They aren't exactly smart... Probably actually Shaak Ti was really dumb in this arc So were Yoda, Mace Windu and Anakin... Jedi aren't very smart in general... |
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Post by Newan on Mar 10, 2014 18:17:39 GMT -5
Probably actually Shaak Ti was really dumb in this arc So were Yoda, Mace Windu and Anakin... Jedi aren't very smart in general... I'd say Anakin was a little smart if he was with Fives the entire time he would have understood everything where as the other 3 would still be clueless. |
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Post by Star on Mar 10, 2014 20:55:55 GMT -5
I just watched the Order 66 arc. It was phenomenal!  Let me start off by saying that without a doubt, Fives is now my favorite clone. Before this arc, I didn't really have a favorite but now... he definitely is. Now onto each episode. The Unknown - I thought this episode was great. It had an awesome opening sequence of fighting and action. Trench was cool to see but his survival was unexplained and that was kinda weird.  Tiple and Tipla (I think that's their names) were pretty cool looking sister Jedi. I especially loved all of the scenes of Tup struggling between insane and sane. They were perfect. And that scene when he was on the ship to go to Kamino was epic. Those camera angles were just stunning. In fact, all the animation was. And you really get to know Fives and Tup a lot better this episode. I liked that very much. And having Dooku involved was nice too. A very good episode.  Conspiracy - if I thought that the first episode was good, this one was even better. First of all, AC-7 was sweet. I love his personality. He is hilarious and still serious too. Nala Se (is that her name? ) was really developed in this episode IMO making me appreciate her character much more. Same with Lama Su. And they really seem so much more evil than in Ep. II. Fives also had some great inspirational lines to AC-7. He was developed even more this epipsde. Also, i was surprised Tup died this episode, but after watching the whole arc, it makes more sense now. His death was sad, but a little predictable. But like i said, still emotional. Another outstanding episode. Fugitive - Now, this was a thrill ride. I loved that they vrought back AC-7 for this episode. And Fives' breakout at the beginning was badass. I loved all the work that he and AC-7 did in this episode (and last one too) as a team. AC-7 still proved to be very funny in this episode. I loved Fives wanting to stay and learn more too instead of leaving to Coruscant. And this episode continued to make you view Nala Se as a much more vile character. I just loved all the Order 66 references up to this episode as well. It was so fun watching Fives piece it all together while I already knew the whole plot. This episode was really good IMO. Orders - now, this episode was a fantastic conclusion and extremely sad. Fives meeting with the Chacellor was interesting (the chancellor's voice is improving. I'll give him that. Still could be a little less deep though. Idk, just not quit the same. Much better than it was before though. And I also think he sounds better as Sidious than Palpatine for some reason. ). I also liked how the Chancellor framed Fives attacking him (I assume that happened. I hope Fives actually didn't attack him.  ) All the chase scens throughout the episode were great. And that taxi driver was pretty funny.  And surprisingly, I liked the clone bar scenes a lot. It was weird that they made Fives talk with Kicks though instead of Jesse. Werent they closer? Still worked though. Then, everything else in the episode leading up to the end was superb. And Fives' final moments were so sad. :'( I think that's the saddest death now in TCW for me. (Yes, probably sadder than Satine and some others that've occurred) Him dying when he could've saved the galaxy and so many lives yet no one believing him was so... depressing. It was really sad when you think about it. And that moment of truth when Fives is under so much pressure and confusion that he grabs the fun and the commander shoots him in the heart...  Rex was so upset. Even Anakin was a little emotional. And I loved how they referred to order 66 as a nightmare/recurring dream. And it also related to Tup's death slightly. It was just so well done its difficult to put into words. And while Fives dying wasn't a thought at all when I first started this arc, by the beginning of this episode, I had a feeling he might die. An excellent episode and terrific conclusion to the arc. Now, to rate each episode. The Unknown: 9/10 Conspiracy: 10/10 Fugitive: 10/10 Orders : 10/10 So that's 39/40 The only reason I didn't give the first episode a 10 is becuase no matter how good I thought it was, it just didn't seem quit as good as the other three, making it a 9 instead. And my favorite episode of the whole arc? I'm not too sure. I want to say Fugitive (I loved the story for it), but Orders and Fives final moments were just so good. Idk, it'd be one of those two episode though. |
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Post by Star on Mar 10, 2014 20:57:12 GMT -5
Oh, and Sidious and his ending lines to Orders were awesome! The foreshadowing throughout this whole arc was just amazing! And Fives' farewell to AC-7 is pretty sad now that I think of it... |
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Post by Star on Mar 10, 2014 20:59:19 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe there will be arcs better than this one. This is definitely one of my top 5 TCW arcs.
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 11, 2014 7:28:54 GMT -5
*double faceplam* I watched the episode the kaminoan was lying. I'm sure Nala Se was lying about parts of it, but it really was called an inhibitor chip. It contained the orders for "protocol" 66 on there, and it also probably helped make the clones less violent when compared to Jango Fett. But it was still actually called an inhibitor chip. *Infinite facepalm* It all makes sense now... |
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 11, 2014 7:30:24 GMT -5
Starwarrior I agree with everything yu said and let me say, I CRIED when Fives died. Best trooper of the republic. May he rest in peace.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 11, 2014 15:18:04 GMT -5
The Unknown - 8.5/10
Conspiracy - 9/10
Fugitive - 9/10
Orders - 10/10
Fives's death was one of the most emotional on the show and probably one of the most tragic deaths ever put on any medium. He could have turned the fate for the entire galaxy if only he had everything working with him instead of against him. He died with so much information that he never got to share.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 23:15:23 GMT -5
I saw bric and what's his name in the hall...cameo appearance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 23:17:49 GMT -5
Wait lam sa the doctor chick was the one kimionan lady in episode 2.
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Post by Star on Mar 12, 2014 16:44:02 GMT -5
Wait lam sa the doctor chick was the one kimionan lady in episode 2. Yes she was. |
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 18:54:44 GMT -5
Actually Lama Su's a guy. He was the prime minister in AOTC. If you're talking about Nala Se, she wasn't in any movies, but Taun We was (although she wasn't in these episodes). |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 12, 2014 18:56:00 GMT -5
Nala Se was in season 2 though.
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Post by Potato on Mar 12, 2014 18:56:20 GMT -5
Nala Se was in season 2 though. You mean season 1? |
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Let me start off by saying that without a doubt, Fives is now my favorite clone. Before this arc, I didn't really have a favorite but now... he definitely is. Now onto each episode.
Tiple and Tipla (I think that's their names) were pretty cool looking sister Jedi. I especially loved all of the scenes of Tup struggling between insane and sane. They were perfect. And that scene when he was on the ship to go to Kamino was epic. Those camera angles were just stunning. In fact, all the animation was. And you really get to know Fives and Tup a lot better this episode. I liked that very much. And having Dooku involved was nice too. A very good episode. 
) All the chase scens throughout the episode were great. And that taxi driver was pretty funny. 
And surprisingly, I liked the clone bar scenes a lot. It was weird that they made Fives talk with Kicks though instead of Jesse. Werent they closer? Still worked though. Then, everything else in the episode leading up to the end was superb. And Fives' final moments were so sad. :'( I think that's the saddest death now in TCW for me. (Yes, probably sadder than Satine and some others that've occurred) Him dying when he could've saved the galaxy and so many lives yet no one believing him was so... depressing. It was really sad when you think about it. And that moment of truth when Fives is under so much pressure and confusion that he grabs the fun and the commander shoots him in the heart... 
Rex was so upset. Even Anakin was a little emotional. And I loved how they referred to order 66 as a nightmare/recurring dream. And it also related to Tup's death slightly. It was just so well done its difficult to put into words. And while Fives dying wasn't a thought at all when I first started this arc, by the beginning of this episode, I had a feeling he might die. An excellent episode and terrific conclusion to the arc. 
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