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Post by Newan on Aug 31, 2014 12:36:00 GMT -5
Maul is kinda overused now and I don't like him as much anymore. There was no real reason to actually bring him back. But The Lawless was still better. How is he overused? He appeared in 6 clone wars episodes, 1 movie and in a few comics. The main focus in every season is about Maul it's clearly what they spend the most time on for a character that doesn't really need to be in TCW at all. I just find his episodes not as good anymore compared to like Umbara, Fives, Deception, etc.
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 12:39:39 GMT -5
How is he overused? He appeared in 6 clone wars episodes, 1 movie and in a few comics. The main focus in every season is about Maul it's clearly what they spend the most time on for a character that doesn't really need to be in TCW at all. I just find his episodes not as good anymore compared to like Umbara, Fives, Deception, etc. Maul didn't even appear in the first 3 seasons. And season 6 would probably not have focused on him too much either. And he didn't have to appear in TCW, but I think the episodes he appeared in are some of the best of the series, so I think the decision to bring him back was a good one for the series.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Aug 31, 2014 12:43:24 GMT -5
Orders is probably one of the best written episodes ever. Fives was my favorite clone since Umbara. I wouldn't say best written... I didn't like it really. Clones aren't that interesting for me. I would rather have gotten a conclusion for Maul, or some other character not really Fives. And wasn't Echo supposed to be supposedly alive?
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 12:45:18 GMT -5
Orders is probably one of the best written episodes ever. Fives was my favorite clone since Umbara. I wouldn't say best written... I didn't like it really. Clones aren't that interesting for me. I would rather have gotten a conclusion for Maul, or some other character not really Fives. And wasn't Echo supposed to be supposedly alive? Well it was just supposed to be the first arc of the final three seasons. Maul's conclusion was ran over by the magical Disney sh*t wagon.
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Post by Namialus on Aug 31, 2014 12:48:26 GMT -5
The Lawless is better, and it's going to win, but I'm voting Witches anyway because I love that too.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 12:49:03 GMT -5
I wonder if Maul would live to Season 8 or just to Season 7.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Aug 31, 2014 12:49:22 GMT -5
To me personally, The Wrong Jedi is and will forever be my favorite episode and best written. It may not be fun, and exciting as some other episodes but I personally think that that episode should be the series finale. Ahsoka had always been the main focus for the series, and her conclusion arc almost tied everything up and setting the stone for ROTS. Sacrifice might have the action and dark but TWJ just had the emotion and better writing. And I think for an episode to be best written is for it to have you connect with it, and make you care about certain things in the episodes. The Lawless was great, and fantastic it had it's moments, while Witches of the Mist was surprising and suspenseful to watch and gave that ROTS feel to it. And it had Ventress ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Tough decision... if it was up against TWJ I would've voted for that. But I think I will have to go with The Lawless. Just for Bo Katan's moments, the action, and it was just enjoyable to watch.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Aug 31, 2014 12:50:09 GMT -5
I wonder if Maul would live to Season 8 or just to Season 7. I think his ending would have been open for fans to think of. Same with Ahsoka. I don't think we would want to see either of them die.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 12:50:33 GMT -5
To me personally, The Wrong Jedi is and will forever be my favorite episode and best written. It may not be fun, and exciting as some other episodes but I personally think that that episode should be the series finale. Ahsoka had always been the main focus for the series, and her conclusion arc almost tied everything up and setting the stone for ROTS. Sacrifice might have the action and dark but TWJ just had the emotion and better writing. And I think for an episode to be best written is for it to have you connect with it, and make you care about certain things in the episodes. The Lawless was great, and fantastic it had it's moments, while Witches of the Mist was surprising and suspenseful to watch and gave that ROTS feel to it. And it had Ventress ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Tough decision... if it was up against TWJ I would've voted for that. But I think I will have to go with The Lawless. Just for Bo Katan's moments, the action, and it was just enjoyable to watch. I agree with everything you said except that it should be the series finale.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Aug 31, 2014 12:51:52 GMT -5
To me personally, The Wrong Jedi is and will forever be my favorite episode and best written. It may not be fun, and exciting as some other episodes but I personally think that that episode should be the series finale. Ahsoka had always been the main focus for the series, and her conclusion arc almost tied everything up and setting the stone for ROTS. Sacrifice might have the action and dark but TWJ just had the emotion and better writing. And I think for an episode to be best written is for it to have you connect with it, and make you care about certain things in the episodes. The Lawless was great, and fantastic it had it's moments, while Witches of the Mist was surprising and suspenseful to watch and gave that ROTS feel to it. And it had Ventress ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Tough decision... if it was up against TWJ I would've voted for that. But I think I will have to go with The Lawless. Just for Bo Katan's moments, the action, and it was just enjoyable to watch. I agree with everything you said except that it should be the series finale. Well I mean I rather have TWJ as the series finale than Sacrifice. But I agree that if there was more seasons the series finale would have been even better.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 12:52:00 GMT -5
I wonder if Maul would live to Season 8 or just to Season 7. I think his ending would have been open for fans to think of. Same with Ahsoka. I don't think we would want to see either of them die. I kinda doubt that. I think everyone would love to see the fate of those two characters and finally get some explanation why they weren't around to wreck havoc later on.
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 12:52:24 GMT -5
I wonder if Maul would live to Season 8 or just to Season 7. Did you watch/read the comics? {Spoilers for comics}The Darth Maul comics were supposed to be part of season 7 I think (or maybe really late in season 6) so I think it's safe to say Maul would still have been around in season 8.
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Post by Newan on Aug 31, 2014 12:53:05 GMT -5
The main focus in every season is about Maul it's clearly what they spend the most time on for a character that doesn't really need to be in TCW at all. I just find his episodes not as good anymore compared to like Umbara, Fives, Deception, etc. Maul didn't even appear in the first 3 seasons. And season 6 would probably not have focused on him too much either. And he didn't have to appear in TCW, but I think the episodes he appeared in are some of the best of the series, so I think the decision to bring him back was a good one for the series. He's still pretty much the same no character person from TPM I would not care one bit if he died I was hoping for it all during that comic. He was hyped quite a bit, good at the time and now boring.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Aug 31, 2014 12:53:33 GMT -5
I wonder if Maul would live to Season 8 or just to Season 7. Probably just 7. He would be overused if he lived to Season 8.
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Post by Newan on Aug 31, 2014 12:53:58 GMT -5
I think his ending would have been open for fans to think of. Same with Ahsoka. I don't think we would want to see either of them die. I kinda doubt that. I think everyone would love to see the fate of those two characters and finally get some explanation why they weren't around to wreck havoc later on. Yes he NEEDS to die.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Aug 31, 2014 12:54:10 GMT -5
I keep getting myself confused between Nightsisters and Witches of the Mist. I might have to change my vote now... I like Ventress more than Maul so ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) . Maybe if the Lawless had somehow included Ventress it would be even better ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 12:54:21 GMT -5
I wonder if Maul would live to Season 8 or just to Season 7. Did you watch/read the comics? {Spoilers for comics}The Darth Maul comics were supposed to be part of season 7 I think (or maybe really late in season 6) so I think it's safe to say Maul would still have been around in season 8. No, they were supposed to be the season finale of Season Six. I didn't read them because Star Wars kinda depressed me now and it wasn't the way they were supposed to be presented.
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 12:55:10 GMT -5
Maul didn't even appear in the first 3 seasons. And season 6 would probably not have focused on him too much either. And he didn't have to appear in TCW, but I think the episodes he appeared in are some of the best of the series, so I think the decision to bring him back was a good one for the series. He's still pretty much the same no character person from TPM I would not care one bit if he died I was hoping for it all during that comic. He was hyped quite a bit, good at the time and now boring. Maul had quite a lot of character development during TCW and the comics. I didn't like him that much after TPM, because he didn't really do anything. But after the Maul/Mandalore arc he became my favorite SW character. TCW made him more than just a mindless puppet of Sidious, and also showed that he isn't pure evil (he cared about Savage and Talzin).
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 12:56:11 GMT -5
Did you watch/read the comics? {Spoilers for comics}The Darth Maul comics were supposed to be part of season 7 I think (or maybe really late in season 6) so I think it's safe to say Maul would still have been around in season 8. No, they were supposed to be the season finale of Season Six. I didn't read them because Star Wars kinda depressed me now and it wasn't the way they were supposed to be presented. They're pretty good though and a very important thing happens in it... but sure, watching them made me think how awesome that would have been as an animated arc, if Disney hadn't cancelled it.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Aug 31, 2014 12:56:52 GMT -5
Did you watch/read the comics? {Spoilers for comics}The Darth Maul comics were supposed to be part of season 7 I think (or maybe really late in season 6) so I think it's safe to say Maul would still have been around in season 8. No, they were supposed to be the season finale of Season Six. I didn't read them because Star Wars kinda depressed me now and it wasn't the way they were supposed to be presented. I stopped reading the comics because they are just supposedly based on Filoni's writing. It's not exactly how the episodes are supposed to turn out. I just kind of found the comic really exagerrated and didn't feel like TCW. IDK they aren't my favorite thing to read. It just felt like a big pile of action and just what fans wanted (Sidious, Grievous fight, Dooku) there wasn't really a plot.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 12:57:07 GMT -5
He's still pretty much the same no character person from TPM I would not care one bit if he died I was hoping for it all during that comic. He was hyped quite a bit, good at the time and now boring. Maul had quite a lot of character development during TCW and the comics. I didn't like him that much after TPM, because he didn't really do anything. But after the Maul/Mandalore arc he became my favorite SW character. TCW made him more than just a mindless puppet of Sidious, and also showed that he isn't pure evil (he cared about Savage and Talzin). Same. I thought TCW did an excellent job of fleshing him out and I thought it was cool to see how intelligent and independent he could be.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Aug 31, 2014 12:58:16 GMT -5
Did you watch/read the comics? {Spoiler}{Spoilers for comics}The Darth Maul comics were supposed to be part of season 7 I think (or maybe really late in season 6) so I think it's safe to say Maul would still have been around in season 8. No, they were supposed to be the season finale of Season Six. I didn't read them because Star Wars kinda depressed me now and it wasn't the way they were supposed to be presented. Really? F**k you Disney!
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 12:58:57 GMT -5
I think Maul's story after the comics would be even more interesting. {Spoiler}He lost his mother and his brother, the only people he seemed to care about. And the Shadow Collective collapsed. All he has are a few Mandalorian allies. He's probably mentally broken. Near the end of the comic it was pretty obvious he was dealing with a lot of pain. His story could only become more interesting... I just hope it won't be another revenge story all about taking down Sidious. But Maul has been through a lot, he's probably one of the most tragic characters in Star Wars.
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 13:00:14 GMT -5
No, they were supposed to be the season finale of Season Six. I didn't read them because Star Wars kinda depressed me now and it wasn't the way they were supposed to be presented. I stopped reading the comics because they are just supposedly based on Filoni's writing. It's not exactly how the episodes are supposed to turn out. I just kind of found the comic really exagerrated and didn't feel like TCW. IDK they aren't my favorite thing to read. It just felt like a big pile of action and just what fans wanted (Sidious, Grievous fight, Dooku) there wasn't really a plot. I'm pretty sure the writing progress was pretty far and I doubt they just threw in Grievous (if you'd read all comics you'd know that Grievous, Dooku and Sidious all have important parts in the story).
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Aug 31, 2014 13:00:21 GMT -5
Yeah TCW has made A LOT of characters better. I even some-what like Anakin..who is terrible in the films and the 2003 series..
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Aug 31, 2014 13:01:45 GMT -5
Yeah TCW has made A LOT of characters better. I even some-what like Anakin..who is terrible in the films and the 2003 series.. And introduced characters you really care for or love. Cad bane, Embo, made Ventress one of my favorite people, Rex, etc.
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 13:01:50 GMT -5
Maul had quite a lot of character development during TCW and the comics. I didn't like him that much after TPM, because he didn't really do anything. But after the Maul/Mandalore arc he became my favorite SW character. TCW made him more than just a mindless puppet of Sidious, and also showed that he isn't pure evil (he cared about Savage and Talzin). Same. I thought TCW did an excellent job of fleshing him out and I thought it was cool to see how intelligent and independent he could be. Well, they sort of ruined his "independence" in the comics. Although, he did still form the Shadow Collective on his own. {Spoiler for comics}And you could say he wasn't actually working for Talzin. Their goals aligned. So I guess the just teamed-up.
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 13:02:53 GMT -5
Yeah TCW has made A LOT of characters better. I even some-what like Anakin..who is terrible in the films and the 2003 series.. And introduced characters you really care for or love. Cad bane, Embo, made Ventress one of my favorite people, Rex, etc. Ventress was around before TCW, she was just extremely undeveloped as a character.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 13:02:55 GMT -5
I think Maul's story after the comics would be even more interesting. {Spoiler}He lost his mother and his brother, the only people he seemed to care about. And the Shadow Collective collapsed. All he has are a few Mandalorian allies. He's probably mentally broken. Near the end of the comic it was pretty obvious he was dealing with a lot of pain. His story could only become more interesting... I just hope it won't be another revenge story all about taking down Sidious. But Maul has been through a lot, he's probably one of the most tragic characters in Star Wars. True. Unlike Tyranus and Vader, Maul didn't choose to be evil. But thanks to Sidious, he was indoctrinated into that life. Yet he still cares about a few others. He's a Sith, he's a murderer, and he's a man driven by hate. Because that's all he knows how to be.
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Post by Pinda on Aug 31, 2014 13:04:25 GMT -5
I think Maul's story after the comics would be even more interesting. {Spoiler}He lost his mother and his brother, the only people he seemed to care about. And the Shadow Collective collapsed. All he has are a few Mandalorian allies. He's probably mentally broken. Near the end of the comic it was pretty obvious he was dealing with a lot of pain. His story could only become more interesting... I just hope it won't be another revenge story all about taking down Sidious. But Maul has been through a lot, he's probably one of the most tragic characters in Star Wars. True. Unlike Tyranus and Vader, Maul didn't choose to be evil. But thanks to Sidious, he was indoctrinated into that life. Yet he still cares about a few others. He's a Sith, he's a murderer, and he's a man driven by hate. Because that's all he knows how to be. Well, who could blame him for hating Kenobi or Sidious after what they did to him. But yes, they even reveal more of how Maul become Sidious's apprentice in he comics. {Spoiler}Sidious took him from Talzin (who's apparently really his mother) as a child. Which is why Talzin hates Sidious too.
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