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Post by Pinda on Feb 28, 2019 15:00:37 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Feb 28, 2019 15:19:16 GMT -5
The problem with the Democratic Party is the volatility of its positions. They live on a slippery slope. Not too long ago, they were for first-term abortions. I don’t agree with that position but I understand why many do. But now they support termination up until the due date. And now some are even pushing for the option to kill a baby after it is born. If you think this cancerous position will not infect the rest of the party then you haven’t been paying attention. It won't. Want to make a bet? Seems like one guy just said something stupid. No one (excluding maybe a few crazy people) wants to kill babies that have actually been born. Seems pretty sensible to me. Seems to work for Europe and Australia. Your "second amendment" is completely outdated. It was written down in 1791, right? People used muskets back then... In the civilized world it does not work, and serves no purpose. Although, I think it may be too late for the US to change anything. There are too many guns... there is no way to remove them all from the country. Stopping the sales of new weapons is probably a good idea though... but that will probably never happen. This is false. When it comes to fossil fuel emissions the US is actually responsible for 14,35% of the emissions ( as of 2015). China is, of course responsible for a large share... but China has 2 billion people... so that only makes sense. As for per capita emissions... the US is doign worse than all but Australia and a few Arabic oil nations. For example, emissions per capita in the US are listed as 16,1, while the EU is at 6,9, and China at 7,7. So the US has a lot of improving to do. As for the claim about ending air travel: So it doesn't say air travel has to stop, but it would be preferable to replace it with something that makes it obsolete. Which is a good thing. I also doubt the claim about criminalizing fuel emissions, but couldn't find anything on that with the effort I was willing to put in. I doubt it is real, but if only applied in certain cases that seems like an interesting idea to protect the climate.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 28, 2019 15:24:42 GMT -5
The problem with the Democratic Party is the volatility of its positions. They live on a slippery slope. Not too long ago, they were for first-term abortions. I don’t agree with that position but I understand why many do. But now they support termination up until the due date. And now some are even pushing for the option to kill a baby after it is born. If you think this cancerous position will not infect the rest of the party then you haven’t been paying attention. They used to support mandatory background checks for gun owners. I actually support that position. Then they wanted to ban semi-automatic rifles. Inevitably, now they call to abolish the second amendment. Democrats used to push for climate-friendly practices and a reduction of emissions. Again, I actually am in favor of this and try to live with a small carbon footprint. I also support clean forms of energy. But now they are calling for a plan that will criminalize fossil fuels, end air travel, and spend more money than actually exists on Earth for a plan that will do very little to solve climate change. After all, the US only accounts for 6% of emissions and Asia, which accounts for more than half, is doing nothing to fix the problem. This is not a serious political party as much as a group of virtue signaling career politicians who will do and say anything to stay in power. They tell you that you are evil for driving a Ford but they take private jets to Puerto Rico. They call you racist for wanting a wall on your border but they have walls and armed guards protecting them. And the views the Democrats held merely five years ago, such as stopping illegal immigration, would now have you deemed an alt-right Nazi. The minute we decide to mess with the 2nd amendment flat out is the day we see other rights gradually be thrown out the window. Just like the escalation grew for abortion cutoffs so will our rights. We went from 1st trimester abortions and now anything up to birth and now most recently pushing for anything after birth. Just like that if they abolish the 2nd admendment it will grow to more heights until society accepts the outcome of diminished rights for the better. Anything with reason can come across as acceptable or okay if you have reason and give it time. If the people dont accept it they own the firepower and we can't revolt nor defend ourselves. The British pushed many inhumane and unfair societal taxes and implimentetions among the colonists, had they not had the guns or resources their would've been no chance of war or independence. Eventually it will no longer be you can own a gun as long as you have a clean background check. It will be the government choosing whether you can own one or not like making a case to judge in court. They want to control the guns, they want the power and are using the occasional violence as a means to push their agenda. Call me radical, call me whatever it's what's happening. I don't know about that. Guns have been banned here since forever and I would say I have more rights than most people in the US. Also... this...Again, the British used shitty boats to get to the US and fight the people there with muskets. If that was still the case you could have made that argument... but today governments and nations own tanks, fighter planes, nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, drones and all kind of crazy deadly stuff. Good luck fighting against that with a few guns. Rebellions in the civilized world can only be successful if either the government or military joins in. Because if the military stands against you you have no chance of winning with simple guns.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 28, 2019 15:28:53 GMT -5
And frankly, they vote for him due to the radical policies on the left. If they stopped pushing these ridiculous ideas and focused on common sense, they would probably beat Trump. lol There are no radical left-wing ideas in the US. Your political spectrum is tilted so far to the right/conservative side of the spectrum that anything left of the center seems radical. Really, people like Bernie Sanders are not radical. Here he would be center-left. Finally pushing the US away from radical conservatism seems like a good thing, your political options are so limited. It is just "right" and "radical right". You should welcome new opinions, as long as they aren't authoritarian they are good for a democracy.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 28, 2019 15:31:27 GMT -5
I am already so bored I am writing political essays in this thread... these next 6 months are going to be great.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:48:14 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Mar 20, 2019 15:48:14 GMT -5
The guy who said women "want to be raped" just got 17% of the votes in the first exitpoll... This country is fucked.
Seriously I miss the old far-right... now we have to deal with the far-far-right... and they are getting more votes for some reason...
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Post by Star on Mar 20, 2019 20:42:57 GMT -5
The guy who said women "want to be raped" just got 17% of the votes in the first exitpoll... This country is Potato is Awesomeed. Seriously I miss the old far-right... now we have to deal with the far-far-right... and they are getting more votes for some reason... Which guy is this?
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Mar 21, 2019 3:53:45 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Mar 21, 2019 3:53:45 GMT -5
The guy who said women "want to be raped" just got 17% of the votes in the first exitpoll... This country is Potato is Awesomeed. Seriously I miss the old far-right... now we have to deal with the far-far-right... and they are getting more votes for some reason... Which guy is this? Thierry Baudet, the creepiest politician I have ever seen in Europe. First time I heard of him he defended some (non-politician) guy who wanted to legalize rape by claiming women want to be raped. He, unironically, calls himself "the most important Dutch intellectual". The arrogance of this guy is ridiculous... He even posted a pretty much nude picture of himself because he thinks he is extremely handsome. So even ignoring politics, the guy is creepy as Potato is Awesome. His whole political program is about "taking down the elite" but he did his first speech in parliament in Latin... doesn't get more elite than that. And during his victory speech yesterday he raged about all kinds of crazy stuff including how he thinks colonialism was a good thing... And while the Green Party leader (political polar opposite) told his supporters to stop booing this guy Baudet's right hand actually talked about "cooperation" and "civility after the elections" and then he and his crowd laughed at those concepts. Baudet also dined with actual neo-nazis and members of white supremacist groups from the US. And claimed Dutch blood is being "thinned" through interbreeding with foreigners. He rejects the existence of climate change and wants to leave the EU even after this whole Brexit disaster. And now his party became the largest in the Dutch "First Chamber" with 12 seats. Luckily we have the Green Party (9 seats) and Party for Animals (3 seats) to balance it out... but it is really worrying that so many people vote for this kind of person.
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Mar 21, 2019 4:04:57 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Mar 21, 2019 4:04:57 GMT -5
Oh nice they just dug up old quotes from the new First Chamber leader for this party, who was pretty unknown before today. One of them is from 2015 and says:
"Hahaha, 6 pages into Mein Kampf and I already want to gas the Jews."
And she repeatedly used the tag #Auschwitz
These people are fascists in all but name.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 21, 2019 7:39:01 GMT -5
Thierry Baudet, the creepiest politician I have ever seen in Europe. First time I heard of him he defended some (non-politician) guy who wanted to legalize rape by claiming women want to be raped. He, unironically, calls himself "the most important Dutch intellectual". The arrogance of this guy is ridiculous... He even posted a pretty much nude picture of himself because he thinks he is extremely handsome. So even ignoring politics, the guy is creepy as Potato is Awesome. His whole political program is about "taking down the elite" but he did his first speech in parliament in Latin... doesn't get more elite than that. And during his victory speech yesterday he raged about all kinds of crazy stuff including how he thinks colonialism was a good thing... And while the Green Party leader (political polar opposite) told his supporters to stop booing this guy Baudet's right hand actually talked about "cooperation" and "civility after the elections" and then he and his crowd laughed at those concepts. Baudet also dined with actual neo-nazis and members of white supremacist groups from the US. And claimed Dutch blood is being "thinned" through interbreeding with foreigners. He rejects the existence of climate change and wants to leave the EU even after this whole Brexit disaster. And now his party became the largest in the Dutch "First Chamber" with 12 seats. Luckily we have the Green Party (9 seats) and Party for Animals (3 seats) to balance it out... but it is really worrying that so many people vote for this kind of person. Do... people not know much about this? Because I feel like a lot of folks wouldn't be ridiculous enough to vote for this kind of hypocritical, backwards scum if most of them were aware of this stuff.
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Mar 21, 2019 8:33:55 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Mar 21, 2019 8:33:55 GMT -5
Thierry Baudet, the creepiest politician I have ever seen in Europe. First time I heard of him he defended some (non-politician) guy who wanted to legalize rape by claiming women want to be raped. He, unironically, calls himself "the most important Dutch intellectual". The arrogance of this guy is ridiculous... He even posted a pretty much nude picture of himself because he thinks he is extremely handsome. So even ignoring politics, the guy is creepy as Potato is Awesome. His whole political program is about "taking down the elite" but he did his first speech in parliament in Latin... doesn't get more elite than that. And during his victory speech yesterday he raged about all kinds of crazy stuff including how he thinks colonialism was a good thing... And while the Green Party leader (political polar opposite) told his supporters to stop booing this guy Baudet's right hand actually talked about "cooperation" and "civility after the elections" and then he and his crowd laughed at those concepts. Baudet also dined with actual neo-nazis and members of white supremacist groups from the US. And claimed Dutch blood is being "thinned" through interbreeding with foreigners. He rejects the existence of climate change and wants to leave the EU even after this whole Brexit disaster. And now his party became the largest in the Dutch "First Chamber" with 12 seats. Luckily we have the Green Party (9 seats) and Party for Animals (3 seats) to balance it out... but it is really worrying that so many people vote for this kind of person. Do... people not know much about this? Because I feel like a lot of folks wouldn't be ridiculous enough to vote for this kind of hypocritical, backwards scum if most of them were aware of this stuff. I mean a lot of it is common knowledge I think... though I don't have much faith in the ability to think critically for most of these people. But still, I would like to think I am decently informed and I already knew this guy was an asshole... but I have been digging deeper and things just keep getting worse. I mean... I just found this picture of Baudet: It is worth noting the turnout was only 53%. So only about 8% of the adult population voted for this guy... but that is still too much and the university cities are bringin that number down. But in my city the PVV and this new party account for 33% of the votes... apparently 1 in 3 people believe in these dangerous ideas.
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Mar 27, 2019 17:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Mar 27, 2019 17:13:56 GMT -5
So this guy just opened a telephone line were you can report left-wing teachers presumably so the party can ask for them to be removed... That is not creepy or reminiscent of fascism at all...
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Post by Pinda on May 23, 2019 15:35:37 GMT -5
Finally got to vote in the European Elections. I actually had a hard time deciding which party to vote for for the first time. So far my vote went to the "GreenLeft" party without much doubt in every election. They are the most progressive and pro-EU party on the left-wing, which makes them the best pick for me. But these elections had a new party called VOLT which is in favour of European Federalism and is the first party that tries to take part in several EU countries with the same party program. So as an European Federalist myself I considered voting for them. But they were only polling at 2% (not bad for a new party) and they needed 4% for a seat. I also considered the traditional labour party because their leader in these elections is very popular, their EU program is very similar to that of the Green party too, and I would much rather see them as the largest party as opposed to the far-right. But I went with the boring GreenLeft vote... and I am glad I did because the Labour Party still became the largest with 18% of the votes. And the far-right dropped to the fourth place (down from first place during the last elections two months ago) and all their votes were siphoned from the old far-right party. So these are positive results. This is the first time in decades a left-wing party is the largest during any elections in the Netherlands. So that's nice. I believe the UK had European Elections too today (they really shouldn't, they will just elect people to mess up the EU since they are already leaving). Maverick-Jedi-Valen are the elections weird there? Did you vote? This will probably be the only time both of us got to vote in the same election.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 23, 2019 16:27:00 GMT -5
Finally got to vote in the European Elections. I actually had a hard time deciding which party to vote for for the first time. So far my vote went to the "GreenLeft" party without much doubt in every election. They are the most progressive and pro-EU party on the left-wing, which makes them the best pick for me. But these elections had a new party called VOLT which is in favour of European Federalism and is the first party that tries to take part in several EU countries with the same party program. So as an European Federalist myself I considered voting for them. But they were only polling at 2% (not bad for a new party) and they needed 4% for a seat. I also considered the traditional labour party because their leader in these elections is very popular, their EU program is very similar to that of the Green party too, and I would much rather see them as the largest party as opposed to the far-right. But I went with the boring GreenLeft vote... and I am glad I did because the Labour Party still became the largest with 18% of the votes. And the far-right dropped to the fourth place (down from first place during the last elections two months ago) and all their votes were siphoned from the old far-right party. So these are positive results. This is the first time in decades a left-wing party is the largest during any elections in the Netherlands. So that's nice. I believe the UK had European Elections too today (they really shouldn't, they will just elect people to mess up the EU since they are already leaving). Maverick-Jedi-Valen are the elections weird there? Did you vote? This will probably be the only time both of us got to vote in the same election. Yeah, it's odd we're doing this merry-go-round. Needless to say the Tories are getting the mother of all thrashings and Nigel Farage should probably have a face transplant with the troll meme at this point I didn't vote, but my sister passed by the local polling station and it was dead as a doorknob. If I did though, I'd probably have gone for the Green Party, since it probably has the most principles I agree with. Weirdly the polls show even they're going to be ahead of Conservative. I am so glad I am not May right now
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Post by Pinda on May 26, 2019 12:35:16 GMT -5
The final election results will start coming in now. I am liking the early results from Germany. The Green Party went up to 21% of the votes (just trailing Merkel's CDU at 22%) and the AFD (Holocaust-deniers) are only at 10% instead of the 18% they were polling at during at their party's peak.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 26, 2019 15:07:03 GMT -5
The final election results will start coming in now. I am liking the early results from Germany. The Green Party went up to 21% of the votes (just trailing Merkel's CDU at 22%) and the AFD (Holocaust-deniers) are only at 10% instead of the 18% they were polling at during at their party's peak. Meanwhile, Farage and his Brexit Party might end up winning 37% of the vote over here and the walking, talking comedy sketch Boris Johnson could well be PM
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Post by Pinda on May 26, 2019 15:38:26 GMT -5
The final election results will start coming in now. I am liking the early results from Germany. The Green Party went up to 21% of the votes (just trailing Merkel's CDU at 22%) and the AFD (Holocaust-deniers) are only at 10% instead of the 18% they were polling at during at their party's peak. Meanwhile, Farage and his Brexit Party might end up winning 37% of the vote over here and the walking, talking comedy sketch Boris Johnson could well be PM Well, at least the US won't feel alone in having a clown as political leader now. I just hope Brexit happens soon so Farage can't sabotage the EU parliament for too long. France and the UK definitely seem to have the worst results though. Everything else I have seen so far seems alright... But Front National seems to be the largest party in France now and Le Penn is calling for new national elections... Extremists in countries like the Netherlands, Belgium or Germany don't scare me as much because due to the electoral system they need to form a coalition and will always need to compromise with mainstream parties to appoint a Prime Minister/Chancellor. But in France the system is different and Le Penn could easily end up becoming President. And that is really scary for the stability of the entire continent...
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May 26, 2019 17:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on May 26, 2019 17:53:09 GMT -5
Most alarming result:
Greece's Golden Dawn, an actual Neo-Nazi party (I am not exegerating one bit, their symbol is even derived from the swastika) got 5% of the votes... many established mainstream parties in the Netherlands were getting around 4%. So that seems significant to me. Also apparently they were the second most popular party among young voters... That is pretty scary. An openly Fascist party getting 5%. I hope those young people change their mind. For most of Europe the future looks brighter (with Green Parties being most popular among the young voters) but Greece worries me.
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May 30, 2019 21:35:44 GMT -5
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Post by squiggy on May 30, 2019 21:35:44 GMT -5
So Iger said that once January comes around he will refuse association of Disney involvement in Georgia. This being as a result of the new abortion legislation regarding no abortion after a detected heartbeat that will take effect in the state. Now given theatres sales, toys etc. do you think this is a bluff given the profit forfit? Doesnt matter to me either way, I think Disney is becoming a monopoly ever so slowly and could stand to lose some money do to their arrogance but I find this hard to believe in all honesty.
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Jul 10, 2019 9:19:46 GMT -5
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Post by squiggy on Jul 10, 2019 9:19:46 GMT -5
O great so California now supports illegal immigrants by giving them rights they shouldn't even have. What a great idea to reward their crimes by giving them healthcare, and if it wasn't already bad taxpayers have to pay to do so. If I go rob a bank because I can't pay my bills they dont sympathize and condone my illegal behavior and let me keep a portion. Your ass gets locked up. If you come into this country rightfully, that's fine, make your way,enjoy America. But to be forced to pay for benefits for illegal status is ridiculous.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 10, 2019 12:02:45 GMT -5
O great so California now supports illegal immigrants by giving them rights they shouldn't even have. What a great idea to reward their crimes by giving them healthcare, and if it wasn't already bad taxpayers have to pay to do so. If I go rob a bank because I can't pay my bills they dont sympathize and condone my illegal behavior and let me keep a portion. Your ass gets locked up. If you come into this country rightfully, that's fine, make your way,enjoy America. But to be forced to pay for benefits for illegal status is ridiculous. If you rob a bank and go to jail... who do you think pays for your healthcare? As far as I am concerned healthcare is a human right. Everyone deserves proper access to it. On top of that I would not say robbing a bank is comparable to crossing an artificially created border. There are no victims of "illegal" immigration. Simply being in a certain geographical area that is not privately owned should not be a crime at all.
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Jul 10, 2019 18:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by squiggy on Jul 10, 2019 18:29:34 GMT -5
O great so California now supports illegal immigrants by giving them rights they shouldn't even have. What a great idea to reward their crimes by giving them healthcare, and if it wasn't already bad taxpayers have to pay to do so. If I go rob a bank because I can't pay my bills they dont sympathize and condone my illegal behavior and let me keep a portion. Your ass gets locked up. If you come into this country rightfully, that's fine, make your way,enjoy America. But to be forced to pay for benefits for illegal status is ridiculous. If you rob a bank and go to jail... who do you think pays for your healthcare? As far as I am concerned healthcare is a human right. Everyone deserves proper access to it. On top of that I would not say robbing a bank is comparable to crossing an artificially created border. There are no victims of "illegal" immigration. Simply being in a certain geographical area that is not privately owned should not be a crime at all. Yeah healthcare is a right if you ask me as well, BUT for citizens who are here legally, not for people that come illegally and dont want to abide by the rules. Why are we taking money out of American paychecks to fund the people of those who dont want to abide by the rules in the process? Tell me how that makes sense? My point with the jail thing was illegal is illegal. They wouldn't give me the cash and back my wrong doing just because I had a motive. Just like we Americans shouldn't have to pay for illegal status and back their motive. I want my money to go to those who are rightfully here because they came here honorably,(which some already is but still). Although it doesnt apply to me directly just yet in my state its the principal of the matter.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 23, 2019 8:48:26 GMT -5
And that's that. The walking, talking comedy sketch we call Boris Johnson is PM, thus ensuring yet another term of political chaos and party division
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 23, 2019 8:56:41 GMT -5
Oh my god, his acceptance speech is utterly hilarious
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Post by Pinda on Jul 23, 2019 9:03:18 GMT -5
And that's that. The walking, talking comedy sketch we call Boris Johnson is PM, thus ensuring yet another term of political chaos and party division This makes the UK government hypocritical too. They complain about the European Commission not being directly elected by the people... then they have a few hundred thousand people vote on the next Prime Minister as opposed to having new elections where everyone can decide... Good news is: Johnson is not likely to last much longer than May. The EU won't give that clown a better deal. So either he accepts May's deal, and loses all political support. Or he goes for a hard Brexit and throws the UK into complete chaos. I don't think he will be Prime Minister for very longer with either of those outcomes.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 23, 2019 9:07:34 GMT -5
Oh my god, his acceptance speech is utterly hilarious This guy is like a smart version of Trump. He knows exactly what he is doing, he chooses to be weird. They showed some clips from Johnson on Dutch TV last night. One of them was him complaining about EU fishing regulations by actually swinging a fish around. The clown-act is a distraction. It shifts the focus to him as a person not the stuff he is saying. Because the regulations he was talking about were not made by the EU, but by the conservatives in the UK, but that point got lost in the chaos. He seems to be one of those politicians who will do whatever it takes to get into an important position. Not because they have political ideals (Johnson actually did not care about Brexit) but because they want power. And those people are despicable.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 23, 2019 9:23:33 GMT -5
And that's that. The walking, talking comedy sketch we call Boris Johnson is PM, thus ensuring yet another term of political chaos and party division This makes the UK government hypocritical too. They complain about the European Commission not being directly elected by the people... then they have a few hundred thousand people vote on the next Prime Minister as opposed to having new elections where everyone can decide... Good news is: Johnson is not likely to last much longer than May. The EU won't give that clown a better deal. So either he accepts May's deal, and loses all political support. Or he goes for a hard Brexit and throws the UK into complete chaos. I don't think he will be Prime Minister for very longer with either of those outcomes. Yeah, considering how the Tories are on the verge of fragmenting, I find it really hard to believe he's going to be sticking around Downing Street very long. And yes, the fact that he gets to become PM this way (the same as May) is hardly showing the true spirit of fairness.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 23, 2019 9:32:06 GMT -5
Oh my god, his acceptance speech is utterly hilarious This guy is like a smart version of Trump. He knows exactly what he is doing, he chooses to be weird. They showed some clips from Johnson on Dutch TV last night. One of them was him complaining about EU fishing regulations by actually swinging a fish around. The clown-act is a distraction. It shifts the focus to him as a person not the stuff he is saying. Because the regulations he was talking about were not made by the EU, but by the conservatives in the UK, but that point got lost in the chaos. He seems to be one of those politicians who will do whatever it takes to get into an important position. Not because they have political ideals (Johnson actually did not care about Brexit) but because they want power. And those people are despicable. He probably started out weird and realised he could practically weaponise it It's probably the one bit of cleverness he has in him. Whether that translates into a good PM is not going to be a safe bet. Aside from getting rid of bendy buses and not being Tony Blair he hasn't really got a lot of reasons for anyone to think he's going to prove perfect for the job.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 24, 2019 9:17:29 GMT -5
This guy is like a smart version of Trump. He knows exactly what he is doing, he chooses to be weird. They showed some clips from Johnson on Dutch TV last night. One of them was him complaining about EU fishing regulations by actually swinging a fish around. The clown-act is a distraction. It shifts the focus to him as a person not the stuff he is saying. Because the regulations he was talking about were not made by the EU, but by the conservatives in the UK, but that point got lost in the chaos. He seems to be one of those politicians who will do whatever it takes to get into an important position. Not because they have political ideals (Johnson actually did not care about Brexit) but because they want power. And those people are despicable. He probably started out weird and realised he could practically weaponise it It's probably the one bit of cleverness he has in him. Whether that translates into a good PM is not going to be a safe bet. Aside from getting rid of bendy buses and not being Tony Blair he hasn't really got a lot of reasons for anyone to think he's going to prove perfect for the job. Bendy buses?
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 24, 2019 9:23:24 GMT -5
He probably started out weird and realised he could practically weaponise it It's probably the one bit of cleverness he has in him. Whether that translates into a good PM is not going to be a safe bet. Aside from getting rid of bendy buses and not being Tony Blair he hasn't really got a lot of reasons for anyone to think he's going to prove perfect for the job. Bendy buses? It's what we call these en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_bus
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