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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 21:41:57 GMT -5
Wait you guys are complaining about lack of discussion when you guys talk on a PM. It looks like you guys trust each other so soonly.
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Post by Potato on Dec 6, 2013 21:43:00 GMT -5
And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story.
That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us.
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Post by Newan on Dec 6, 2013 21:43:07 GMT -5
Yeah okay because the Inspector leads the loyals anyways so... And I told it to The hobbit and wicket in separate PMs so believe what you want I'm not making it up. If anything it would make sense for me to have the most loyal role cause I have been here the longest and always been loyal to our leader Revan. DALEKS DO NOT KNOW IF YOU LIE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE. THE INSPECTOR WILL BE RECOGNIZED TOMORROW. IF THEIR CLAIMS ARE NOT DISPUTED, DALEKS MUST ASSUME YOU ARE THE INSPECTOR. UNTIL THEN, THEY WILL REMAIN NEUTRAL IN THIS. I have a feeling I could be roleblocked since I'm 90% sure their is a Roleblocker but I'll bring results tomorrow for you then
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Post by bane on Dec 6, 2013 21:46:03 GMT -5
DALEKS DO NOT KNOW IF YOU LIE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE. THE INSPECTOR WILL BE RECOGNIZED TOMORROW. IF THEIR CLAIMS ARE NOT DISPUTED, DALEKS MUST ASSUME YOU ARE THE INSPECTOR. UNTIL THEN, THEY WILL REMAIN NEUTRAL IN THIS. I have a feeling I could be roleblocked since I'm 90% sure their is a Roleblocker but I'll bring results tomorrow for you then DALEKS WILL BE WAITING.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 21:48:12 GMT -5
And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. Welcome to my world. You did the same thing to me. You had no evidence against me, then voted me off. Now this is happening to you. The irony
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Post by Potato on Dec 6, 2013 21:49:24 GMT -5
And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. Welcome to my world. You did the same thing to me. You had no evidence against me, then voted me off. Now this is happening to you. The irony I voted for you because I was scum and I saw you as an easy target. This is different.
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 21:49:49 GMT -5
Yeah okay because the Inspector leads the loyals anyways so... And I told it to The hobbit and wicket in separate PMs so believe what you want I'm not making it up. If anything it would make sense for me to have the most loyal role cause I have been here the longest and always been loyal to our leader Revan. DALEKS DO NOT KNOW IF YOU LIE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE. THE INSPECTOR WILL BE RECOGNIZED TOMORROW. IF THEIR CLAIMS ARE NOT DISPUTED, DALEKS MUST ASSUME YOU ARE THE INSPECTOR. UNTIL THEN, THEY WILL REMAIN NEUTRAL IN THIS. Neutrality will get us nowhere, don't you understand?
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Post by Malgus on Dec 6, 2013 21:50:12 GMT -5
And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. Do you have an alternative? Because I see what your saying, but give another option.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2013 21:50:16 GMT -5
I think little kid (I forgot his name so I'll just keep calling him little kid.....) or Wicket 2.0 might be my vote...
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2013 21:51:54 GMT -5
I think little kid (I forgot his name so I'll just keep calling him little kid.....) or Wicket 2.0 might be my vote... Oh looks like I forgot to read a page... But I think I still stand by what I said..
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 21:52:29 GMT -5
And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. I think mods means the more experienced players rather than the actual rank. Anywho, we've spoken in PMs and everything and we've come to the conclusion that the both of us are not loyal - that leaves you, who doesn't seem the most loyal. Yeah, it's not full-on evidence but it's the best that we have and I'm sure we won't be failing today.
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 21:52:45 GMT -5
I think little kid (I forgot his name so I'll just keep calling him little kid.....) or Wicket 2.0 might be my vote... sigh.
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Post by bane on Dec 6, 2013 21:53:10 GMT -5
And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. OOC: I think he means it more like this: There are four mods playing, so in a game of this size, Newan's saying it's relatively likely that one is scum. It's basically saying that this would work whatever group of four you picked, just because of the ratio of scum to loyals. I don't know if I explained this right Newan. If I didn't, sorry. IC: DO YOU SUGGEST THAT ONE OF THESE TWO ARE SCUM? IF NOT, THE MAJORITY OF YOUR DEFENCE IS NULLIFIED.
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 21:53:15 GMT -5
Wait you guys are complaining about lack of discussion when you guys talk on a PM. It looks like you guys trust each other so soonly. Because we've spoken in a PM...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 21:53:39 GMT -5
Welcome to my world. You did the same thing to me. You had no evidence against me, then voted me off. Now this is happening to you. The irony I voted for you because I was scum and I saw you as an easy target. This is different. Well screw you too fuzz ball.
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Post by Newan on Dec 6, 2013 21:54:22 GMT -5
I think little kid (I forgot his name so I'll just keep calling him little kid.....) or Wicket 2.0 might be my vote... Oh looks like I forgot to read a page... But I think I still stand by what I said.. Please make the right decision here if you do not vote Wicket definitely vote anyone other than the hobbit...
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Post by bane on Dec 6, 2013 21:54:38 GMT -5
DALEKS DO NOT KNOW IF YOU LIE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE. THE INSPECTOR WILL BE RECOGNIZED TOMORROW. IF THEIR CLAIMS ARE NOT DISPUTED, DALEKS MUST ASSUME YOU ARE THE INSPECTOR. UNTIL THEN, THEY WILL REMAIN NEUTRAL IN THIS. Neutrality will get us nowhere, don't you understand? IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LOGICALLY DECIDE BETWEEN THE TWO. DALEKS ARE NOTHING IF NOT LOGICAL. OOC: I'm waiting until tomorrow...
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 21:54:55 GMT -5
Welcome to my world. You did the same thing to me. You had no evidence against me, then voted me off. Now this is happening to you. The irony I voted for you because I was scum and I saw you as an easy target. This is different. Pretty sure you saw him as an easy target today too.
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Post by Potato on Dec 6, 2013 21:58:18 GMT -5
And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. Do you have an alternative? Because I see what your saying, but give another option. IDK, can't other people come up with ideas? I still think Jodo's weird and there were a couple people that defended him earlier. And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. I think mods means the more experienced players rather than the actual rank. Anywho, we've spoken in PMs and everything and we've come to the conclusion that the both of us are not loyal - that leaves you, who doesn't seem the most loyal. Yeah, it's not full-on evidence but it's the best that we have and I'm sure we won't be failing today. Mod teams can be non-experienced players. It's happened before. Who you are as a player really doesn't determine your role. And how did you come to the conclusion that one of us is not loyal? We aren't even done with Day 1 yet so I'm curiously how you can possibly have enough evidence to determine that. And of course Merry votes for me even though he just backed up some of the stuff I said earlier. This isn't even evidence. You're voting for me for two reasons: 1. I'm a Mod. 2. Because of the story. That's ridiculous. You have no real evidence. Newan himself even said the "mod's are scum" rule was dumb. And now he and Merry support it out of the blue just because it's not them. People being Mods have nothing to do with roles. Roles are random. Yes, Grievous apparently has some Loyal Leader role, but does that really mean every role is specifically given? That would be stupid. Roles are given out randomly so it's fair. A couple ones being given like Grievous's are fine like the Loyal Lovers from TTOO, but basing that off of everyone's roles doesn't make sense. And maybe Grievous being the inspector was random and Spider just added the description because that happened. Anything's possible. You can't just vote someone off because they're a Mod and my character is a clone. Oh, and Mods being scum is really stupid because that's like saying anyone is scum. It's like me saying at least one of the people with a Jedi Knight rank is scum. That's no evidence, it's just stupid randomization that really won't help us. OOC: I think he means it more like this: There are four mods playing, so in a game of this size, Newan's saying it's relatively likely that one is scum. It's basically saying that this would work whatever group of four you picked, just because of the ratio of scum to loyals. I don't know if I explained this right Newan. If I didn't, sorry. IC: DO YOU SUGGEST THAT ONE OF THESE TWO ARE SCUM? IF NOT, THE MAJORITY OF YOUR DEFENCE IS NULLIFIED. But you're not getting the pointlessness in that. It's like me saying out of you, Malgus, Jodo, and Kenobi, about one of you is scum. So let's vote off Malgus because of that. You see? That just isn't good evidence. This is basically a random vote.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2013 21:59:21 GMT -5
Oh looks like I forgot to read a page... But I think I still stand by what I said.. Please make the right decision here if you do not vote Wicket definitely vote anyone other than the hobbit... We shall see... I just thought little kid was acting weird by quickly jumping on the Haradian bandwagon when Wicket started accusing him and then he immediately was suspicious of Wicket but didn't post any reasons. Also I don't know what was happening in the PMs but from what I've seen, it could look like Wicket and little kid are allied and little kid's trying not to look connected to him... But then again, I think little kid has completely stopped supporting wicket so he might not be his ally... Honestly, I don't think he really is anymore, it was just my initial thought..
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 22:00:06 GMT -5
I think mods means the more experienced players rather than the actual rank. Anywho, we've spoken in PMs and everything and we've come to the conclusion that the both of us are not loyal - that leaves you, who doesn't seem the most loyal. Yeah, it's not full-on evidence but it's the best that we have and I'm sure we won't be failing today. Mod teams can be non-experienced players. It's happened before. Who you are as a player really doesn't determine your role. And how did you come to the conclusion that one of us is not loyal? We aren't even done with Day 1 yet so I'm curiously how you can possibly have enough evidence to determine that. OOC: I think he means it more like this: There are four mods playing, so in a game of this size, Newan's saying it's relatively likely that one is scum. It's basically saying that this would work whatever group of four you picked, just because of the ratio of scum to loyals. I don't know if I explained this right Newan. If I didn't, sorry. IC: DO YOU SUGGEST THAT ONE OF THESE TWO ARE SCUM? IF NOT, THE MAJORITY OF YOUR DEFENCE IS NULLIFIED. But you're not getting the pointlessness in that. It's like me saying out of you, Malgus, Jodo, and Kenobi, about one of you is scum. So let's vote off Malgus because of that. You see? That just isn't good evidence. This is basically a random vote. Well, I highly doubt Grievous, Wicket II, AND I will all be loyal. It's a risk we're taking because we have to take it. And yes, it is a somewhat random vote that also isn't random at all.
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Post by Potato on Dec 6, 2013 22:00:11 GMT -5
I voted for you because I was scum and I saw you as an easy target. This is different. Pretty sure you saw him as an easy target today too. Right. Of course I'm doing that exact same thing over again. You yourself accused him out loud and in a PM. And don't use the "i was waiting for his response" excuse again because we've already heard. You accused Jodo and you can't single me out for it. This wasn't even your reason for voting me so don't tack on this random stuff now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 22:00:14 GMT -5
Well VOTE WICKETT POTATO. He is the only lead here. His evidence against me is weak.
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 22:00:57 GMT -5
Please make the right decision here if you do not vote Wicket definitely vote anyone other than the hobbit... We shall see... I just thought little kid was acting weird by quickly jumping on the Haradian bandwagon when Wicket started accusing him and then he immediately was suspicious of Wicket but didn't post any reasons. Also I don't know what was happening in the PMs but from what I've seen, it could look like Wicket and little kid are allied and little kid's trying not to look connected to him... But then again, I think little kid has completely stopped supporting wicket so he might not be his ally... Honestly, I don't think he really is anymore, it was just my initial thought.. .....please tell me you don't think I'm his ally...
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 6, 2013 22:01:25 GMT -5
Do you wanna know who I'm suspicious of? It's that little furry thing that killed Théoden, Wicket. So... Wicket 2? OOC: Sorry I'm a bit lost. Well it's a long story. Mandos, and then cloning, Genetic Engineering, Kaas Zwervus, and then this rancor.... Never mind, it's not important.
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 22:01:44 GMT -5
Pretty sure you saw him as an easy target today too. Right. Of course I'm doing that exact same thing over again. You yourself accused him out loud and in a PM. And don't use the "i was waiting for his response" excuse again because we've already heard. You accused Jodo and you can't single me out for it. This wasn't even your reason for voting me so don't tack on this random stuff now. I did accuse him, yeah.
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Post by Potato on Dec 6, 2013 22:02:47 GMT -5
Mod teams can be non-experienced players. It's happened before. Who you are as a player really doesn't determine your role. And how did you come to the conclusion that one of us is not loyal? We aren't even done with Day 1 yet so I'm curiously how you can possibly have enough evidence to determine that. But you're not getting the pointlessness in that. It's like me saying out of you, Malgus, Jodo, and Kenobi, about one of you is scum. So let's vote off Malgus because of that. You see? That just isn't good evidence. This is basically a random vote. Well, I highly doubt Grievous, Wicket II, AND I will all be loyal. It's a risk we're taking because we have to take it. And yes, it is a somewhat random vote that also isn't random at all. It's completely random. There's no reason to doubt us three are loyal anymore than Bane, Malgus, and Kenobi all being loyal like I said earlier. It's all just random. And it's not a necessary risk. If you just randomly vote people off the odds are that you'll end up with more dead loyalists before you finally catch scum. How can you expect to get anything done if you randomly vote everyone? You're supposed to find evidence. You'll all be clueless tomorrow if you vote me off because the vote was so random.
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Post by Potato on Dec 6, 2013 22:03:17 GMT -5
Right. Of course I'm doing that exact same thing over again. You yourself accused him out loud and in a PM. And don't use the "i was waiting for his response" excuse again because we've already heard. You accused Jodo and you can't single me out for it. This wasn't even your reason for voting me so don't tack on this random stuff now. I did accuse him, yeah. So by your logic he's an easy target.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2013 22:03:42 GMT -5
Please make the right decision here if you do not vote Wicket definitely vote anyone other than the hobbit... We shall see... I just thought little kid was acting weird by quickly jumping on the Haradian bandwagon when Wicket started accusing him and then he immediately was suspicious of Wicket but didn't post any reasons. Also I don't know what was happening in the PMs but from what I've seen, it could look like Wicket and little kid are allied and little kid's trying not to look connected to him... But then again, I think little kid has completely stopped supporting wicket so he might not be his ally... Honestly, I don't think he really is anymore, it was just my initial thought.. Actually, I wasn't really suspicious of wicket in the first place and since he and little kid don't seem connected, I don't have a reason to be suspicious of him. Also I think his saying your status doesn't determine your role which is grievous' and little kid's main point of evidence is kind of true
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Post by Namialus on Dec 6, 2013 22:04:03 GMT -5
Well, I highly doubt Grievous, Wicket II, AND I will all be loyal. It's a risk we're taking because we have to take it. And yes, it is a somewhat random vote that also isn't random at all. It's completely random. There's no reason to doubt us three are loyal anymore than Bane, Malgus, and Kenobi all being loyal like I said earlier. It's all just random. And it's not a necessary risk. If you just randomly vote people off the odds are that you'll end up with more dead loyalists before you finally catch scum. How can you expect to get anything done if you randomly vote everyone? You're supposed to find evidence. You'll all be clueless tomorrow if you vote me off because the vote was so random. But if you DO come up scum (which you undoubtedly will) we will have succeeded in Day 1. Which is an important success. So this is an important risk.
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