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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 21:29:42 GMT -5
Razmus claiming third party.... His claim makes sense, but whether or not this is true and he is sincere, this was obviously meant for us to trust him immediately. He thought that if he did it later, it wouldn't be as reliable, and Razmus probably wants us to think he is like a confirmed loyal. He's definitely suspicous to me... First of all you say it makes sense then you say it's not true then you say "he is sincere" what is that supposed too mean? No I don't ask for trust immediately or confirmed loyal status you have no reason too trust anyone that claims something on day 1. But you says it makes sense and sincere then you say he's definitely suspicious? This post more seems like your following and can't make your mind up rather than deciding for yourself. When I said it made sense, I meant that it is a plausible idea to me (since I can't assume it to be 100% true, especially on day 1). And I said: "whether or *not* this is true, *and* he is sincere...". And obviously this was meant for you to attempt and make you seem like a confirmed loyal, whether or not you said it directly. It was implied. At least to me it was. I'm sure I'm not the only one. And if you thought that "no one would trust you", you clearly must think I'm a bigger fool than you. I wasn't born yesterday, Razmus. I know that with this type of situation and that type of claim, you would probably assume (and hope) that you'd be trusted by at least *some* of the other members. A scum or loyal could both do this, so don't think I automatically believe you're probably scum. A loyal could just as soon do this to be thought of as a loyal (OOC: Boba in TOTR). Regardless of what your affiliation is, I just find you suspicous. And how am I following? This seems like a pretty well thought out idea by *me*.
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 21:31:24 GMT -5
I don't count the 4th he wasn't their too start. But he counts as scum. There were four scum - one died. That's not the point I'm making. Never mind,
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 21:38:45 GMT -5
First of all you say it makes sense then you say it's not true then you say "he is sincere" what is that supposed too mean? No I don't ask for trust immediately or confirmed loyal status you have no reason too trust anyone that claims something on day 1. But you says it makes sense and sincere then you say he's definitely suspicious? This post more seems like your following and can't make your mind up rather than deciding for yourself. When I said it made sense, I meant that it is a plausible idea to me (since I can't assume it to be 100% true, especially on day 1). And I said: "whether or *not* this is true, *and* he is sincere...". And obviously this was meant for you to attempt and make you seem like a confirmed loyal, whether or not you said it directly. It was implied. At least to me it was. I'm sure I'm not the only one. And if you thought that "no one would trust you", you clearly must think I'm a bigger fool than you. I wasn't born yesterday, Razmus. I know that with this type of situation and that type of claim, you would probably assume (and hope) that you'd be trusted by at least *some* of the other members. A scum or loyal could both do this, so don't think I automatically believe you're probably scum. A loyal could just as soon do this to be thought of as a loyal (OOC: Boba in TOTR). Regardless of what your affiliation is, I just find you suspicous. And how am I following? This seems like a pretty well thought out idea by *me*. I think of all the ones that accused me of my role possibly being fake yours seems the most odd. And I don't care who follows me or not I am with the Jedi and I win with them even if I'm not *fully*'of the same allegiance. I am 3rd party that wins with the Jedi not too hard too understand given their was one with the Nami. Now who else do you find suspicious in the group?
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 21:42:07 GMT -5
When I said it made sense, I meant that it is a plausible idea to me (since I can't assume it to be 100% true, especially on day 1). And I said: "whether or *not* this is true, *and* he is sincere...". And obviously this was meant for you to attempt and make you seem like a confirmed loyal, whether or not you said it directly. It was implied. At least to me it was. I'm sure I'm not the only one. And if you thought that "no one would trust you", you clearly must think I'm a bigger fool than you. I wasn't born yesterday, Razmus. I know that with this type of situation and that type of claim, you would probably assume (and hope) that you'd be trusted by at least *some* of the other members. A scum or loyal could both do this, so don't think I automatically believe you're probably scum. A loyal could just as soon do this to be thought of as a loyal (OOC: Boba in TOTR). Regardless of what your affiliation is, I just find you suspicous. And how am I following? This seems like a pretty well thought out idea by *me*. I think of all the ones that accused me of my role possibly being fake yours seems the most odd. And I don't care who follows me or not I am with the Jedi and I win with them even if I'm not *fully*'of the same allegiance. I am 3rd party that wins with the Jedi not too hard too understand given their was one with the Nami. Now who else do you find suspicious in the group? I don't see how my idea was odd. It seemed logical to me. And I don't really have anything else right now besides that pointless RP argument between (Pinda) and (Boba).
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Post by Namialus on Nov 13, 2013 21:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by bane on Nov 13, 2013 21:48:16 GMT -5
I do see where Soria is coming from, but for now I think we'll just have to trust that Razmus is set on helping the loyals. Even if I still have doubts about him, it would be stupid to sacrifice one of our (OOC:) best players without enough evidence. I would rather vote for no one then for someone that could be helping the loyals.
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 21:50:25 GMT -5
I do see where Soria is coming from, but for now I think we'll just have to trust that Razmus is set on helping the loyals. Even if I still have doubts about him, it would be stupid to sacrifice one of our (OOC:) best players without enough evidence. I would rather vote for no one then for someone that could be helping the loyals. Yes, but we have hardly any other leads. And if we don't vote today, then Razmus will have no margin for error. Surely he'll want to vote someone off today.
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 21:52:48 GMT -5
I do see where Soria is coming from, but for now I think we'll just have to trust that Razmus is set on helping the loyals. Even if I still have doubts about him, it would be stupid to sacrifice one of our (OOC:) best players without enough evidence. I would rather vote for no one then for someone that could be helping the loyals. Yes, but we have hardly any other leads. And if we don't vote today, then Razmus will have no margin for error. Surely he'll want to vote someone off today. And you don't want too vote someone today? Not voting only helps the scum and you seem to be persistent in getting rid of me. Having no other leads means you will vote me?
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Post by Malgus on Nov 13, 2013 21:53:44 GMT -5
I have no idea who I will vote for. Unfortunately tomorrow after school will be to late; OOC: I have swim pratice then. IC: Anyone at all know who they will vote for?
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 21:53:48 GMT -5
I still find Rodal sort of weird and Alistair's been quiet too... although I can't really blame him for that. The thing with all of this is that it's day 1 and you can't really expect fantastic evidence to convict anyone. Someone needs to go first no matter what happens. What does everyone else think of these two? No one's really talked about anyone other than Razmus.
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 21:59:13 GMT -5
I still find Rodal sort of weird and Alistair's been quiet too... although I can't really blame him for that. The thing with all of this is that it's day 1 and you can't really expect fantastic evidence to convict anyone. Someone needs to go first no matter what happens. What does everyone else think of these two? No one's really talked about anyone other than Razmus. A good thing too for without me you would still be siting in the sand mumbling with the Devonian and the fish. Yes I have noticed those two seem odd as well and it could be possible one of them is scum.
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 22:00:55 GMT -5
I still find Rodal sort of weird and Alistair's been quiet too... although I can't really blame him for that. The thing with all of this is that it's day 1 and you can't really expect fantastic evidence to convict anyone. Someone needs to go first no matter what happens. What does everyone else think of these two? No one's really talked about anyone other than Razmus. A good thing too for without me you would still be siting in the sand mumbling with the Devonian and the fish. Yes I have noticed those two seem odd as well and it could be possible one of them is scum. I don't think so. I'm sure something else would have come up.
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Post by bane on Nov 13, 2013 22:02:05 GMT -5
I still find Rodal sort of weird and Alistair's been quiet too... although I can't really blame him for that. The thing with all of this is that it's day 1 and you can't really expect fantastic evidence to convict anyone. Someone needs to go first no matter what happens. What does everyone else think of these two? No one's really talked about anyone other than Razmus. Sure Alistair's been quiet, but many people have...
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 22:02:08 GMT -5
A good thing too for without me you would still be siting in the sand mumbling with the Devonian and the fish. Yes I have noticed those two seem odd as well and it could be possible one of them is scum. I don't think so. I'm sure something else would have come up. With the company in the group I would doubt it very much... All the discussion been when I'm around.
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Post by bane on Nov 13, 2013 22:03:55 GMT -5
I don't think so. I'm sure something else would have come up. With the company in the group I would doubt it very much... All the discussion been when I'm around. k den...
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 22:07:30 GMT -5
Alright question if you really had too vote someone right now who would it be?
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 22:07:37 GMT -5
I still find Rodal sort of weird and Alistair's been quiet too... although I can't really blame him for that. The thing with all of this is that it's day 1 and you can't really expect fantastic evidence to convict anyone. Someone needs to go first no matter what happens. What does everyone else think of these two? No one's really talked about anyone other than Razmus. Sure Alistair's been quiet, but many people have... Like who?
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 22:18:32 GMT -5
I think I'll vote Fluorine at this point. Either him or Alistair. Alistair's felt off to me this whole time, although I don't think it's really too fair to accuse him because he hasn't been able to be here that much. Fluorine's sort of been the same as Alistair except his accusations towards Razmus were weird. He called him a sith and then later said he wasn't "scum sith". He's one of the many people that have only talked about Razmus. We get it, Razmus is some third party that could be lying and is getting increasingly weird with his push for what he thinks is better discussion. But he's not the only one here. I think everyone should maybe stop talking about Razmus for a minute and look around elsewhere. At this point nothing's going to get done and we might not even have too many people voting, so let's get the vote started as soon as possible to see what other people think.
VOTE: FLUORINE (JODO)
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Post by bane on Nov 13, 2013 22:18:51 GMT -5
Sure Alistair's been quiet, but many people have... Like who? Jodo and Spider. OOC: sorry for the late reply.
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Post by bane on Nov 13, 2013 22:20:21 GMT -5
I think I'll vote Fluorine at this point. Either him or Alistair. Alistair's felt off to me this whole time, although I don't think it's really too fair to accuse him because he hasn't been able to be here that much. Fluorine's sort of been the same as Alistair except his accusations towards Razmus were weird. He called him a sith and then later said he wasn't "scum sith". He's one of the many people that have only talked about Razmus. We get it, Razmus is some third party that could be lying and is getting increasingly weird with his push for what he thinks is better discussion. But he's not the only one here. I think everyone should maybe stop talking about Razmus for a minute and look around elsewhere. At this point nothing's going to get done and we might not even have too many people voting, so let's get the vote started as soon as possible to see what other people think. VOTE: FLUORINE (JODO) Do you know which page these accusations are on? I'd like to look at them...
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 22:21:05 GMT -5
I think I'll vote Fluorine at this point. Either him or Alistair. Alistair's felt off to me this whole time, although I don't think it's really too fair to accuse him because he hasn't been able to be here that much. Fluorine's sort of been the same as Alistair except his accusations towards Razmus were weird. He called him a sith and then later said he wasn't "scum sith". He's one of the many people that have only talked about Razmus. We get it, Razmus is some third party that could be lying and is getting increasingly weird with his push for what he thinks is better discussion. But he's not the only one here. I think everyone should maybe stop talking about Razmus for a minute and look around elsewhere. At this point nothing's going to get done and we might not even have too many people voting, so let's get the vote started as soon as possible to see what other people think. VOTE: FLUORINE (JODO) Do you know which page these accusations are on? I'd like to look at them... IDK.... 4? 5? 6? There's only 8 pages... Just look for the ones with posts from Jodo.
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Post by Malgus on Nov 13, 2013 22:25:49 GMT -5
I don't see myself voting today, unless (Jodo) puts together an unsatisfactory defence before I have to go to bed (if he's even active enough to put together a defence at all). I don't want to vote anyone before they have a chance.
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 22:28:16 GMT -5
I just voted now because I had a feeling that if I didn't no one would do anything.....
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Post by bane on Nov 13, 2013 22:28:20 GMT -5
Do you know which page these accusations are on? I'd like to look at them... IDK.... 4? 5? 6? There's only 8 pages... Just look for the ones with posts from Jodo. Mhh... I guess I see your point... OOC: He did this exact thing in the first game he played. (accuse a sith just because... they're a sith) Don't you think it might just be role play?
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Post by Spidyyr on Nov 13, 2013 22:41:02 GMT -5
Alright question if you really had too vote someone right now who would it be? Soria strikes me as suspicious. IDK
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 22:42:03 GMT -5
I'll have my decision soon on who too vote but I will vote today I'm not sitting back and doing nothing. And I think Ba Xeters vote on Jodo makes me think he may be more loyal a scum might not take the risk too vote first especially for a person that wasn't on the radar by most,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 22:42:48 GMT -5
I think I'll vote Fluorine at this point. Either him or Alistair. Alistair's felt off to me this whole time, although I don't think it's really too fair to accuse him because he hasn't been able to be here that much. Fluorine's sort of been the same as Alistair except his accusations towards Razmus were weird. He called him a sith and then later said he wasn't "scum sith". He's one of the many people that have only talked about Razmus. We get it, Razmus is some third party that could be lying and is getting increasingly weird with his push for what he thinks is better discussion. But he's not the only one here. I think everyone should maybe stop talking about Razmus for a minute and look around elsewhere. At this point nothing's going to get done and we might not even have too many people voting, so let's get the vote started as soon as possible to see what other people think. VOTE: FLUORINE (JODO) No I meant he was a sith (in the context of him not being scum but of a story perspective) not of a sith scum perspective. Also do you really think I would do something so foolish I f I were scum.
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 22:42:59 GMT -5
Alright question if you really had too vote someone right now who would it be? Soria strikes me as suspicious. IDK I can agree with that he's a bit suspicious though I'm not sure yet.
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 22:45:24 GMT -5
Yes, but we have hardly any other leads. And if we don't vote today, then Razmus will have no margin for error. Surely he'll want to vote someone off today. And you don't want too vote someone today? Not voting only helps the scum and you seem to be persistent in getting rid of me. Having no other leads means you will vote me? Of course I want to vote someone. But with this lack of evidence, I want to vote you, but I'm not certain. I half believe you.
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Post by Newan on Nov 13, 2013 22:46:50 GMT -5
And you don't want too vote someone today? Not voting only helps the scum and you seem to be persistent in getting rid of me. Having no other leads means you will vote me? Of course I want to vote someone. But with this lack of evidence, I want to vote you, but I'm not certain. I half believe you. Voting me is a meaningless vote you gain nothing it's like voting a inactive.
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