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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 23:14:22 GMT -5
The only reason why you accused me was because I voted Fluorine. You seem completely fine with me up until that point. Honestly, I don't care if people go with my vote. That vote was to get people voting because people don't really vote a lot until the first vote's in. You seem to not like the first vote in this case. It was weak evidence IMO. I mean, I understand that you did try to come up with something, but for me, I don't like it. And this is my opinion. After all, didn't someone say they didn't like followers? What evidence is better? I said this when I put in my vote, it's day 1 and you can't expect great evidence. Someone needs to go first eventually, and if we want to convict someone today you aren't going to end up with great evidence. You need to start somewhere. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 23:15:00 GMT -5
How so? You seem very unwise. When evidence is spoken, it is usually because they want that person to be possibly voted. That is what I was doing when I said that. So how is that hindering voting. It sounds to me like you're frustrated because I'm going against your vote and you, possibly swaying other minds. The only reason why you accused me was because I voted Fluorine. You seem completely fine with me up until that point. Honestly, I don't care if people go with my vote. That vote was to get people voting because people don't really vote a lot until the first vote's in. You seem to not like the first vote in this case. So you are justifying your vote because you only think it will get people to vote? |
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 23:16:31 GMT -5
The only reason why you accused me was because I voted Fluorine. You seem completely fine with me up until that point. Honestly, I don't care if people go with my vote. That vote was to get people voting because people don't really vote a lot until the first vote's in. You seem to not like the first vote in this case. So you are justifying your vote because you only think it will get people to vote? Sort of. I do think you're one of the more suspicious people today anyway and I have seen you accuse people and I've seen people side with you. It's not the best evidence against you but it's better than nothing. |
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 23:17:47 GMT -5
And if people were smart they wouldn't all follow me anyway. Some of you are acting like I've single-handedly convicted Fluorine or something.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 23:18:23 GMT -5
So you are justifying your vote because you only think it will get people to vote? Sort of. I do think you're one of the more suspicious people today anyway and I have seen you accuse people and I've seen people side with you. It's not the best evidence against you but it's better than nothing. I didn't accuse him of being scum..I only said I didn't trust him. Do you care for the jedi order, because if you just vote with little evidence like that than the order will be nothing. |
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 23:20:43 GMT -5
Okay, so I find Ba Xeter most suspicous.
Votes first just to get discussion going. Seems fair enough. But the fact that it was really weak evidence was what got me. I mean, Razmus or someone else would've at least had a better case to argue. Flourine had weak reasons against him. And with such weak reasons, Ba Xeter (who seems like scum) probably did this to get those followers and undecided ones to possibly follow him. He didn't go for Razmus (loyal for this) because there were too many against. So that's how he could've been hoping to gain followers in the vote. Then, I accuse him with a possible theory. He complains, not evening bothering to defend himself, saying that since he voted he doesn't need to. Stupid. Just stupid. Everyone else hasn't voted yet and they might consider voting you too. Would you still not defend yourself? He also says how I do nothing. Well, I brought up this interesting piece of evidence along with going against Razmus at first. That seems like something to me. Not to mention that he still hasn't defended himself up until now. And then he says I take pride in every little thing I do. I don't. That was just to show him I actually did something. And, to be honest, has Ba Xeter really done that much more? He also thinks that I'm trying to hinder voting by accusing him. If anything, it helps by offering more voting possibilities. So, without further wait, Ba Xeter will be my vote.
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 23:21:18 GMT -5
Sort of. I do think you're one of the more suspicious people today anyway and I have seen you accuse people and I've seen people side with you. It's not the best evidence against you but it's better than nothing. I didn't accuse him of being scum..I only said I didn't trust him. Do you care for the jedi order, because if you just vote with little evidence like that than the order will be nothing. You said he was sith and then when you were called out for it you said he wasn't "scum sith". I do care for the order, and I've come to realize that if no one votes then that will do us nothing. |
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 23:23:19 GMT -5
And if people were smart they wouldn't all follow me anyway. Some of you are acting like I've single-handedly convicted Fluorine or something. Well, like you said, there isn't much other evidence, so yes, many probably would follow or not vote. This would result in Fluorine being convicted. I did not like your reasons, so I decided to try and find new evidence. And you're what I discovered. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 23:25:36 GMT -5
I didn't accuse him of being scum..I only said I didn't trust him. Do you care for the jedi order, because if you just vote with little evidence like that than the order will be nothing. You said he was sith and then when you were called out for it you said he wasn't "scum sith". I do care for the order, and I've come to realize that if no one votes then that will do us nothing. That's what I meant all along. Do you really think I would just outright call him sith with no evidence? Not voting is better than voting off jedi with weak evidence. |
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 23:27:16 GMT -5
You said he was sith and then when you were called out for it you said he wasn't "scum sith". I do care for the order, and I've come to realize that if no one votes then that will do us nothing. That's what I meant all along. Do you really think I would just outright call him sith with no evidence? Not voting is better than voting off jedi with weak evidence. This is correct. Because if you take a leap in the dark, very uncertain of yourself, and lose a loyal, then possibly two loyals could be lost by day 2 instead of maybe just one. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 23:29:18 GMT -5
Okay, so I find Ba Xeter most suspicous. Votes first just to get discussion going. Seems fair enough. But the fact that it was really weak evidence was what got me. I mean, Razmus or someone else would've at least had a better case to argue. Flourine had weak reasons against him. And with such weak reasons, Ba Xeter (who seems like scum) probably did this to get those followers and undecided ones to possibly follow him. He didn't go for Razmus (loyal for this) because there were too many against. So that's how he could've been hoping to gain followers in the vote. Then, I accuse him with a possible theory. He complains, not evening bothering to defend himself, saying that since he voted he doesn't need to. Stupid. Just stupid. Everyone else hasn't voted yet and they might consider voting you too. Would you still not defend yourself? He also says how I do nothing. Well, I brought up this interesting piece of evidence along with going against Razmus at first. That seems like something to me. Not to mention that he still hasn't defended himself up until now. And then he says I take pride in every little thing I do. I don't. That was just to show him I actually did something. And, to be honest, has Ba Xeter really done that much more? He also thinks that I'm trying to hinder voting by accusing him. If anything, it helps by offering more voting possibilities. So, without further wait, Ba Xeter will be my vote. VOTE: BA XETER (POTATO) I agree with some of this. I don't think potato tried to get people to vote me I think he did it to I don't know. OOC: I don't think he would vote me with evidence like that. Sometimes scum take charge in their own way saying that people don't have to follow him. |
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 23:31:01 GMT -5
Okay, so I find Ba Xeter most suspicous. Votes first just to get discussion going. Seems fair enough. But the fact that it was really weak evidence was what got me. I mean, Razmus or someone else would've at least had a better case to argue. Flourine had weak reasons against him. And with such weak reasons, Ba Xeter (who seems like scum) probably did this to get those followers and undecided ones to possibly follow him. He didn't go for Razmus (loyal for this) because there were too many against. So that's how he could've been hoping to gain followers in the vote. Then, I accuse him with a possible theory. He complains, not evening bothering to defend himself, saying that since he voted he doesn't need to. Stupid. Just stupid. Everyone else hasn't voted yet and they might consider voting you too. Would you still not defend yourself? He also says how I do nothing. Well, I brought up this interesting piece of evidence along with going against Razmus at first. That seems like something to me. Not to mention that he still hasn't defended himself up until now. And then he says I take pride in every little thing I do. I don't. That was just to show him I actually did something. And, to be honest, has Ba Xeter really done that much more? He also thinks that I'm trying to hinder voting by accusing him. If anything, it helps by offering more voting possibilities. So, without further wait, Ba Xeter will be my vote. VOTE: BA XETER (POTATO) IMO Fluorine has much better evidence then some other people. Here's some other suspicions brought up: Alistair- My second consideration because of his silentness and if I was scum I would have voted for him because it's safer and I would have been met with less opposition. Pinda- Accused a few times earlier today and there was that contradiction in his vote, but the majority of the arguments he's had were with RP. Razmus- I think he's telling the truth, and I've already said that. You say Razmus is a better option, but I've been in his position before and I know how annoying it is when you're accused of being some murderous third party. His claim fits with my third party role too, it's not really an important role. Gain followers? I'm not asking anyone to vote with me. I don't care if you vote Fluorine or not. If someone doesn't start the vote then none of you would have voted later. Your "plausible theory" is basically that I voted for someone who had a little evidence them, which was better than the people that had no evidence against them. There's nothing to defend myself from. I don't get what you think a defense is supposed to be, but like I said before you just seem opposed to the one vote of that certain person. Again, you take credit for every little thing you do. Have I done much more than you? Yes I have, not a whole lot but I have done more. Why are you comparing yourself to me now? I didn't say you're trying to hinder the vote by accusing me, I'm saying you don't like the vote because that's what seems to get you going about all of this in the first place. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 23:34:26 GMT -5
Okay, so I find Ba Xeter most suspicous. Votes first just to get discussion going. Seems fair enough. But the fact that it was really weak evidence was what got me. I mean, Razmus or someone else would've at least had a better case to argue. Flourine had weak reasons against him. And with such weak reasons, Ba Xeter (who seems like scum) probably did this to get those followers and undecided ones to possibly follow him. He didn't go for Razmus (loyal for this) because there were too many against. So that's how he could've been hoping to gain followers in the vote. Then, I accuse him with a possible theory. He complains, not evening bothering to defend himself, saying that since he voted he doesn't need to. Stupid. Just stupid. Everyone else hasn't voted yet and they might consider voting you too. Would you still not defend yourself? He also says how I do nothing. Well, I brought up this interesting piece of evidence along with going against Razmus at first. That seems like something to me. Not to mention that he still hasn't defended himself up until now. And then he says I take pride in every little thing I do. I don't. That was just to show him I actually did something. And, to be honest, has Ba Xeter really done that much more? He also thinks that I'm trying to hinder voting by accusing him. If anything, it helps by offering more voting possibilities. So, without further wait, Ba Xeter will be my vote. VOTE: BA XETER (POTATO) IMO Fluorine has much better evidence then some other people. Here's some other suspicions brought up: Alistair- My second consideration because of his silentness and if I was scum I would have voted for him because it's safer and I would have been met with less opposition. Pinda- Accused a few times earlier today and there was that contradiction in his vote, but the majority of the arguments he's had were with RP. Razmus- I think he's telling the truth, and I've already said that. You say Razmus is a better option, but I've been in his position before and I know how annoying it is when you're accused of being some murderous third party. His claim fits with my third party role too, it's not really an important role. Gain followers? I'm not asking anyone to vote with me. I don't care if you vote Fluorine or not. If someone doesn't start the vote then none of you would have voted later. Your "plausible theory" is basically that I voted for someone who had a little evidence them, which was better than the people that had no evidence against them. There's nothing to defend myself from. I don't get what you think a defense is supposed to be, but like I said before you just seem opposed to the one vote of that certain person. Again, you take credit for every little thing you do. Have I done much more than you? Yes I have, not a whole lot but I have done more. Why are you comparing yourself to me now? I didn't say you're trying to hinder the vote by accusing me, I'm saying you don't like the vote because that's what seems to get you going about all of this in the first place. Do you think bringing up other suspicions will just let you off the lightsaber. But I will not be voting for you, I have a bigger suspicion. |
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Post by Potato on Nov 13, 2013 23:36:33 GMT -5
IMO Fluorine has much better evidence then some other people. Here's some other suspicions brought up: Alistair- My second consideration because of his silentness and if I was scum I would have voted for him because it's safer and I would have been met with less opposition. Pinda- Accused a few times earlier today and there was that contradiction in his vote, but the majority of the arguments he's had were with RP. Razmus- I think he's telling the truth, and I've already said that. You say Razmus is a better option, but I've been in his position before and I know how annoying it is when you're accused of being some murderous third party. His claim fits with my third party role too, it's not really an important role. Gain followers? I'm not asking anyone to vote with me. I don't care if you vote Fluorine or not. If someone doesn't start the vote then none of you would have voted later. Your "plausible theory" is basically that I voted for someone who had a little evidence them, which was better than the people that had no evidence against them. There's nothing to defend myself from. I don't get what you think a defense is supposed to be, but like I said before you just seem opposed to the one vote of that certain person. Again, you take credit for every little thing you do. Have I done much more than you? Yes I have, not a whole lot but I have done more. Why are you comparing yourself to me now? I didn't say you're trying to hinder the vote by accusing me, I'm saying you don't like the vote because that's what seems to get you going about all of this in the first place. Do you think bringing up other suspicions will just let you off the lightsaber. But I will not be voting for you, I have a bigger suspicion. I'm not accusing them, I'm comparing them to what we've got. When I voted, barely any of the evidence against anyone was good, but he thinks it needs to be some strong case. And also that I probably won't be able to vote after tonight. |
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 23:44:32 GMT -5
Okay, so I find Ba Xeter most suspicous. Votes first just to get discussion going. Seems fair enough. But the fact that it was really weak evidence was what got me. I mean, Razmus or someone else would've at least had a better case to argue. Flourine had weak reasons against him. And with such weak reasons, Ba Xeter (who seems like scum) probably did this to get those followers and undecided ones to possibly follow him. He didn't go for Razmus (loyal for this) because there were too many against. So that's how he could've been hoping to gain followers in the vote. Then, I accuse him with a possible theory. He complains, not evening bothering to defend himself, saying that since he voted he doesn't need to. Stupid. Just stupid. Everyone else hasn't voted yet and they might consider voting you too. Would you still not defend yourself? He also says how I do nothing. Well, I brought up this interesting piece of evidence along with going against Razmus at first. That seems like something to me. Not to mention that he still hasn't defended himself up until now. And then he says I take pride in every little thing I do. I don't. That was just to show him I actually did something. And, to be honest, has Ba Xeter really done that much more? He also thinks that I'm trying to hinder voting by accusing him. If anything, it helps by offering more voting possibilities. So, without further wait, Ba Xeter will be my vote. VOTE: BA XETER (POTATO) IMO Fluorine has much better evidence then some other people. Here's some other suspicions brought up: Alistair- My second consideration because of his silentness and if I was scum I would have voted for him because it's safer and I would have been met with less opposition. Pinda- Accused a few times earlier today and there was that contradiction in his vote, but the majority of the arguments he's had were with RP. Razmus- I think he's telling the truth, and I've already said that. You say Razmus is a better option, but I've been in his position before and I know how annoying it is when you're accused of being some murderous third party. His claim fits with my third party role too, it's not really an important role. Gain followers? I'm not asking anyone to vote with me. I don't care if you vote Fluorine or not. If someone doesn't start the vote then none of you would have voted later. Your "plausible theory" is basically that I voted for someone who had a little evidence them, which was better than the people that had no evidence against them. There's nothing to defend myself from. I don't get what you think a defense is supposed to be, but like I said before you just seem opposed to the one vote of that certain person. Again, you take credit for every little thing you do. Have I done much more than you? Yes I have, not a whole lot but I have done more. Why are you comparing yourself to me now? I didn't say you're trying to hinder the vote by accusing me, I'm saying you don't like the vote because that's what seems to get you going about all of this in the first place. Alistair- I see his evidence. Pinda- agreement Razmus- well maybe Nam decided to switch it up to throw us off track. And the OOC evidence isn't as good. And by better option, I meant, you could say more against him than Fluorine, even if more could also be said against your accusation of him. And I never said you said you wanted supporters. As a possible scum, you know too well that with the lack of evidence others will follow the first vote or not vote at all. I went against it because I didn't want that to happen, especially when I thought that Fluorine was loyal. Okay, I see what you mean by not being able to defend yourself, but then why didn't you say that in the first place? Instead you just made yourself sound more suspicous. I already said why I did that. To show you that I had done stuff. Care to elaborate? Because you seem to have done the same thing I have. Just give some useful insight. And I'm not trying to compare ourselves, but you kinda made me have to by saying you'd done more than me. |
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Post by Star on Nov 13, 2013 23:46:24 GMT -5
IMO Fluorine has much better evidence then some other people. Here's some other suspicions brought up: Alistair- My second consideration because of his silentness and if I was scum I would have voted for him because it's safer and I would have been met with less opposition. Pinda- Accused a few times earlier today and there was that contradiction in his vote, but the majority of the arguments he's had were with RP. Razmus- I think he's telling the truth, and I've already said that. You say Razmus is a better option, but I've been in his position before and I know how annoying it is when you're accused of being some murderous third party. His claim fits with my third party role too, it's not really an important role. Gain followers? I'm not asking anyone to vote with me. I don't care if you vote Fluorine or not. If someone doesn't start the vote then none of you would have voted later. Your "plausible theory" is basically that I voted for someone who had a little evidence them, which was better than the people that had no evidence against them. There's nothing to defend myself from. I don't get what you think a defense is supposed to be, but like I said before you just seem opposed to the one vote of that certain person. Again, you take credit for every little thing you do. Have I done much more than you? Yes I have, not a whole lot but I have done more. Why are you comparing yourself to me now? I didn't say you're trying to hinder the vote by accusing me, I'm saying you don't like the vote because that's what seems to get you going about all of this in the first place. Do you think bringing up other suspicions will just let you off the lightsaber. But I will not be voting for you, I have a bigger suspicion. Who is this suspicion, if you don't mind sharing? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 23:54:08 GMT -5
Do you think bringing up other suspicions will just let you off the lightsaber. But I will not be voting for you, I have a bigger suspicion. Who is this suspicion, if you don't mind sharing? Still deciding when enough comes up I will share. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 14, 2013 0:19:34 GMT -5
VOTE: SORIA (STAR)
Seems much has happened since I left but I don't really like how he is acting he seems too jump around a lot first he goes too me which may seem logical but then he goes too Xeter mostly for his vote now it's possible Xeter is scum but I really don't think a scum would be the first one too charge the vote especially with the little evidence he has on Fluorine and Fluorine isn't a big name for the vote too begin with but at least he took the risk and now that I think about it Fluorine and Soria seem too be teaming up a bit so I don't mind who gets voted. Seems Soria just wants an excuse too take out a strong player early and I believe he said he wanted too vote me or no one at all earlier. And I don't think Xeter took a leap in the dark he had enough evidence too back his vote up at the time. And perhaps no conclusion would be reached today if it wasn't for him being brave too vote first.
I'm actually quite confident with my vote. If Soria is scum I'm going too say possible allies being Fluorine, Pinda and Mav. Just a guess.
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Post by bane on Nov 14, 2013 0:39:11 GMT -5
Who is this suspicion, if you don't mind sharing? Still deciding when enough comes up I will share. Please just share it. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 14, 2013 1:45:41 GMT -5
I don't know entirely why Razmus is suspicious of me. I've been trying to talk about catching scum, but unfortunately the two people I'm able to talk to are a couple of Jedi with species superiority complexes. Have I been following people on who to vote? No. Besides, by the time I was discussing no one was really getting suspicious. Believe me if you want, but that's where I stand and that's what I call the truth. Now on the matter of voting, I sort of thought Soria said things that didn't entirely make much sense, but it's Rodal that caught my eye. The guy says he doesn't trust Razmus, then all of a sudden decides "yeah I trust him a little, he's cool." That doesn't make much sense. If you ask me, it could be a scum who tried to make people doubt Razmus' role (assuming his role is not at all bogus) and not believe him. So, I'm not sure if I'm being a little sudden with this, but VOTE: RODAL (PINDA).
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Post by Pinda on Nov 14, 2013 1:55:29 GMT -5
I don't know entirely why Razmus is suspicious of me. I've been trying to talk about catching scum, but unfortunately the two people I'm able to talk to are a couple of Jedi with species superiority complexes. Have I been following people on who to vote? No. Besides, by the time I was discussing no one was really getting suspicious. Believe me if you want, but that's where I stand and that's what I call the truth. Now on the matter of voting, I sort of thought Soria said things that didn't entirely make much sense, but it's Rodal that caught my eye. The guy says he doesn't trust Razmus, then all of a sudden decides "yeah I trust him a little, he's cool." That doesn't make much sense. If you ask me, it could be a scum who tried to make people doubt Razmus' role (assuming his role is not at all bogus) and not believe him. So, I'm not sure if I'm being a little sudden with this, but VOTE: RODAL (PINDA). I saidI didn't fully trust, and I still don't. But for now I see no reason to vote him off. That's what I meant to say. |
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Post by Pinda on Nov 14, 2013 1:58:48 GMT -5
I'll vote when I get back from school, I don't have time to read all pages I missed now.
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Post by bobafett590 on Nov 14, 2013 2:42:42 GMT -5
At least we're past the racism. Hopefully we can make some more progress. Yes, quarrens are pretty racist. Glad he decided to shut his mouth and listen to more intelligent life forms. devaronians are the most idiotic species ever... |
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Post by bobafett590 on Nov 14, 2013 2:58:22 GMT -5
I'll vote after school. Here's a vote tally!
VOTE TALLY:
Pinda: 1
Star:1
Jodo:1
Potato: 1
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Post by Star on Nov 14, 2013 7:46:06 GMT -5
Would all of us be eliminated or would no one Namialus? Four would be a lot to get rid of on day 1, assuming no one else votes. |
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Post by Star on Nov 14, 2013 7:48:55 GMT -5
VOTE: SORIA (STAR) Seems much has happened since I left but I don't really like how he is acting he seems too jump around a lot first he goes too me which may seem logical but then he goes too Xeter mostly for his vote now it's possible Xeter is scum but I really don't think a scum would be the first one too charge the vote especially with the little evidence he has on Fluorine and Fluorine isn't a big name for the vote too begin with but at least he took the risk and now that I think about it Fluorine and Soria seem too be teaming up a bit so I don't mind who gets voted. Seems Soria just wants an excuse too take out a strong player early and I believe he said he wanted too vote me or no one at all earlier. And I don't think Xeter took a leap in the dark he had enough evidence too back his vote up at the time. And perhaps no conclusion would be reached today if it wasn't for him being brave too vote first. I'm actually quite confident with my vote. If Soria is scum I'm going too say possible allies being Fluorine, Pinda and Mav. Just a guess. It's not an excuse, it's evidence. And I have at least, maybe more evidence, with my vote compared to Ba Xeter. And I've only changed my opinion once? That's hardly a lot. Others have done it much more. This is weak evidence, Razmus. And confident? Ha! You've just voted for a loyal! Hopefully no others will follow in your path. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Nov 14, 2013 8:27:17 GMT -5
Wow, mixed vote. I'll probably vote Soria but I think I'll read over the arguments against everyone again.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 14, 2013 8:52:49 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Nov 14, 2013 9:27:37 GMT -5
I'm kinda uncertain about this. My main suspects at this point are Star, Potato and Jodo. All three of them have been acting strange. But I don't think all of them can be scum... So I'm going to go for Star today. VOTE: STAR. His vote didn't have much convincing evidence, I think he may be scum and Jodo may be loyal. So Star could vote for Potato, hoping Jodo will be convicted to make himself look loyal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 9:41:45 GMT -5
I'm kinda uncertain about this. My main suspects at this point are Star, Potato and Jodo. All three of them have been acting strange. But I don't think all of them can be scum... So I'm going to go for Star today. VOTE: STAR. His vote didn't have much convincing evidence, I think he may be scum and Jodo may be loyal. So Star could vote for Potato, hoping Jodo will be convicted to make himself look loyal. Well it seems everyone else is now sharing my suspicion. I did find it odd how star latched on to me so quickly. |
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it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 