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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 16:42:12 GMT -5
"Attempting to discredit the protector to a far greater extent than anyone else" The supposed PM was in no way the only reason that you accused me... And you do know that maybe, just maybe, your plan might have worked if you hadn't chickened out and claimed a role for the whole world to hear! Thanks to your cowardice you left key players like Nam wide open to the scum? I "chickenced out" because it was necessary, anyway, the inspector's demise is not ALL my fault. OOC: Previous experiences have taught me it only takes one person to accuse me and everyone will, this time I attempted to forestall. It is ALL your fault. You could've protected him but you didn't. Sorry if I am being to hard on you. Everyone makes mistakes. But to fully understand them you must face the fact and move on instead of blaming things on other people. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Oct 28, 2013 16:46:54 GMT -5
I "chickenced out" because it was necessary, anyway, the inspector's demise is not ALL my fault. OOC: Previous experiences have taught me it only takes one person to accuse me and everyone will, this time I attempted to forestall. It is ALL your fault. You could've protected him but you didn't. Sorry if I am being to hard on you. Everyone makes mistakes. But to fully understand them you must face the fact and move on instead of blaming things on other people. No it isn't. Ventress didn't ask me to protect her ,she clearly asked me to protect myself, I took HER advice so it is not all my fault. |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 28, 2013 16:47:50 GMT -5
It is ALL your fault. You could've protected him but you didn't. Sorry if I am being to hard on you. Everyone makes mistakes. But to fully understand them you must face the fact and move on instead of blaming things on other people. No it isn't. Ventress didn't ask me to protect her ,she clearly asked me to protect myself, I took HER advice so it is not all my fault. Again, don't blame this on me. If it wasn't for you I wouldn't be dead. *disperses* |
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Post by bobafett590 on Oct 28, 2013 16:49:29 GMT -5
No it isn't. Ventress didn't ask me to protect her ,she clearly asked me to protect myself, I took HER advice so it is not all my fault. Again, don't blame this on me. If it wasn't for you I wouldn't be dead. *disperses* The moral of the story is: "Don't advise people to protect themselves when you need to be protected" |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 28, 2013 16:50:46 GMT -5
Again, don't blame this on me. If it wasn't for you I wouldn't be dead. *disperses* The moral of the story is: "Don't advise people to protect themselves when you need to be protected" So you're going to blame me for trying to save your life. *disperses* |
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 28, 2013 16:52:36 GMT -5
Again, don't blame this on me. If it wasn't for you I wouldn't be dead. *disperses* The moral of the story is: "Don't advise people to protect themselves when you need to be protected" No I think it's "Don't condemn your whole team at the first site of danger" |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 28, 2013 16:59:54 GMT -5
I don't see why everyone's making such a big deal of this... Sure it was a bit selfish of the Commander but to my understanding, it was an idea suggested by Ventress so....... And really if he had protected Ventress, the scum might have just killed Wolffe and proceeded with Ventress if they figured out her role so it wouldn't have helped much anyhow...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 17:02:12 GMT -5
It is ALL your fault. You could've protected him but you didn't. Sorry if I am being to hard on you. Everyone makes mistakes. But to fully understand them you must face the fact and move on instead of blaming things on other people. No it isn't. Ventress didn't ask me to protect her ,she clearly asked me to protect myself, I took HER advice so it is not all my fault. There is no point of a protector if he protects himself, the role is meant to protect a role like the inspector. It doesn't matter if she asked you to...the protector does what he seems fit. Her advice obviously didn't work out so well. |
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Post by Star on Oct 28, 2013 17:16:57 GMT -5
I don't see why everyone's making such a big deal of this... Sure it was a bit selfish of the Commander but to my understanding, it was an idea suggested by Ventress so....... And really if he had protected Ventress, the scum might have just killed Wolffe and proceeded with Ventress if they figured out her role so it wouldn't have helped much anyhow... That's my logic too Cody, so I'm not so upset with it. Why don't we move onto trying to find some leads instead if discussing something that will get us nowhere? |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 28, 2013 17:25:08 GMT -5
I don't see why everyone's making such a big deal of this... Sure it was a bit selfish of the Commander but to my understanding, it was an idea suggested by Ventress so....... And really if he had protected Ventress, the scum might have just killed Wolffe and proceeded with Ventress if they figured out her role so it wouldn't have helped much anyhow... Ventress didn't suggest he should reveal his role... |
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Post by Malgus on Oct 28, 2013 17:45:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately there's not to much we can do as of now. Commander Wolffe may have acted selfishly, but there's also really nothing against him that makes him scummy. Or not any more then usual. As for Bane I believe he's probably loyal, just had his feathers ruffled by an unfair accusation. Also people need to stop talking a big game about getting somewhere, and then really doing nothing to help move us along.
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Post by Star on Oct 28, 2013 17:52:10 GMT -5
Well I looked back at day one and since nothing has been occurring I had to look for some subtle things. There are two things I noticed the most although I'm sure I probably missed more.
1. Trident suddenly saying that Wolffe seemed like a good vote, even after the protector business along with Boba being bizarre. And before he'd said very little about suspecting Wolffe other than that he was strange.
This is either a scum trying to push a vote on the (probable) protector or a loyal who over time realized that Wolffe was very strange. Although I can see this both ways I might have to lean towards the second one if nothing comes up.
2. Master Piell also suddenly stated that he was either going to vote Trident or Wolffe. He said Wolffe because he could be faking and was weird, and Trident because he accused Wolffe suddenly. But notice how he didn't accuse Ventress who had been accusing Wolffe all day. (Sorry if this has something to do with that PM issue because I'm still confused on that). But anyway, this was sudden, and a little suspicious.
He could've been a loyal that just thought this made sense (which I suppose it does, but what about Ventress? (unless that's with this PM thing) I mean, she did what Trident did 10x!) Or, he could be a scum trying to push some of us undecided ones into voting two possible loyals (with Wolffe being a more likely loyal).
So this is some of what I was able to pick up. I'm almost certain I missed other small things, but I'll need others to help instead if the same eyes going over it every time. But, if nothing else comes up, Trident or Piell will be my vote (for lack of evidence obviously).
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Post by Star on Oct 28, 2013 17:54:54 GMT -5
OOC: And unfortunately I'll be gone on a field trip tomorrow (unfortunate because I'll miss more of the game) so unless voting opens soon and I can reach a conclusion, I won't be able to vote.  |
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Post by Malgus on Oct 28, 2013 17:59:20 GMT -5
Well I looked back at day one and since nothing has been occurring I had to look for some subtle things. There are two things I noticed the most although I'm sure I probably missed more. 1. Trident suddenly saying that Wolffe seemed like a good vote, even after the protector business along with Boba being bizarre. And before he'd said very little about suspecting Wolffe other than that he was strange. This is either a scum trying to push a vote on the (probable) protector or a loyal who over time realized that Wolffe was very strange. Although I can see this both ways I might have to lean towards the second one if nothing comes up. 2. Master Piell also suddenly stated that he was either going to vote Trident or Wolffe. He said Wolffe because he could be faking and was weird, and Trident because he accused Wolffe suddenly. But notice how he didn't accuse Ventress who had been accusing Wolffe all day. (Sorry if this has something to do with that PM issue because I'm still confused on that). But anyway, this was sudden, and a little suspicious. He could've been a loyal that just thought this made sense (which I suppose it does, but what about Ventress? (unless that's with this PM thing) I mean, she did what Trident did 10x!) Or, he could be a scum trying to push some of us undecided ones into voting two possible loyals (with Wolffe being a more likely loyal). So this is some of what I was able to pick up. I'm almost certain I missed other small things, but I'll need others to help instead if the same eyes going over it every time. But, if nothing else comes up, Trident or Piell will be my vote (for lack of evidence obviously). That's quite interesting. Hopefully they can come up with reasons why they're loyal, so find can find a scum. |
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Post by Fisto on Oct 28, 2013 17:59:27 GMT -5
VOTING IS OPEN You have 24 hours.
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Post by Star on Oct 28, 2013 18:02:21 GMT -5
Oh snap. I need to decide soon or not vote at all.  |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 28, 2013 18:03:33 GMT -5
I'm clueless. The only two people I could find suspicious are Ivar and Potato. Potato, because he might have known about Nam's role, but we don't know for sure and Nam's death could have been bad luck as he's a good player so scum could just decide to kill him. Ivar, because he kinda accused Wolffe, our protector... but so did Boba and he was loyal...
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Post by Malgus on Oct 28, 2013 18:13:09 GMT -5
I'm clueless. The only two people I could find suspicious are Ivar and Potato. Potato, because he might have known about Nam's role, but we don't know for sure and Nam's death could have been bad luck as he's a good player so scum could just decide to kill him. Ivar, because he kinda accused Wolffe, our protector... but so did Boba and he was loyal... Out of the 2 I would be leaning towards Ivar. You can't really call someone suspicious because there's a possibility they *might* have know about a role. But he's also inactive; that worries me. What do you say to what Star posted? |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 28, 2013 18:36:56 GMT -5
I don't see why everyone's making such a big deal of this... Sure it was a bit selfish of the Commander but to my understanding, it was an idea suggested by Ventress so....... And really if he had protected Ventress, the scum might have just killed Wolffe and proceeded with Ventress if they figured out her role so it wouldn't have helped much anyhow... Ventress didn't suggest he should reveal his role... No I meant Ventress told Wolffe to protect himself Or am I mistaken |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Oct 28, 2013 18:57:33 GMT -5
So, to count: Trident, Peill, and Plo are suspects. The top suspicion being Trident. Interesting.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Oct 28, 2013 18:59:38 GMT -5
I doubt anything else will come up.
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Post by Star on Oct 28, 2013 19:09:47 GMT -5
Interesting how Piell didn't defend himself...
And I don't think I'll vote Plo. Trident or Piell will be my vote (if I can decide in time)
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Post by Star on Oct 28, 2013 19:32:59 GMT -5
I'm afraid I won't vote. I'm still undecided and no one appears to be coming on to help me decide. So with that, I will not vote. This will also be my last post for the next day so OOC: See ya.  |
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Post by bane on Oct 28, 2013 19:35:38 GMT -5
"Attempting to discredit the protector to a far greater extent than anyone else" The supposed PM was in no way the only reason that you accused me... And you do know that maybe, just maybe, your plan might have worked if you hadn't chickened out and claimed a role for the whole world to hear! Thanks to your cowardice you left key players like Nam wide open to the scum? I "chickenced out" because it was necessary, anyway, the inspector's demise is not ALL my fault. OOC: Previous experiences have taught me it only takes one person to accuse me and everyone will, this time I attempted to forestall. No, you chickened out because you felt you were incapable of defending yourself from a little scrutiny. |
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Post by bane on Oct 28, 2013 19:37:55 GMT -5
It is ALL your fault. You could've protected him but you didn't. Sorry if I am being to hard on you. Everyone makes mistakes. But to fully understand them you must face the fact and move on instead of blaming things on other people. No it isn't. Ventress didn't ask me to protect her ,she clearly asked me to protect myself, I took HER advice so it is not all my fault. And she wouldn't have had to take such drastic actions if you'd had the self-control to do what's best for the team, not just yourself. |
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Post by bane on Oct 28, 2013 19:43:41 GMT -5
I'm clueless. The only two people I could find suspicious are Ivar and Potato. Potato, because he might have known about Nam's role, but we don't know for sure and Nam's death could have been bad luck as he's a good player so scum could just decide to kill him. Ivar, because he kinda accused Wolffe, our protector... but so did Boba and he was loyal... I don't feel that Potato is suspicious, just because Nam isn't stupid enough to reveal his role on day one. Especially since he said he had good results. |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 29, 2013 1:55:36 GMT -5
Interesting how Piell didn't defend himself... And I don't think I'll vote Plo. Trident or Piell will be my vote (if I can decide in time) Defend myself against what? |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 29, 2013 1:56:59 GMT -5
I'm clueless. The only two people I could find suspicious are Ivar and Potato. Potato, because he might have known about Nam's role, but we don't know for sure and Nam's death could have been bad luck as he's a good player so scum could just decide to kill him. Ivar, because he kinda accused Wolffe, our protector... but so did Boba and he was loyal... I don't feel that Potato is suspicious, just because Nam isn't stupid enough to reveal his role on day one. Especially since he said he had good results. But he did reveal his role to me. But, I think it's also very likely Namialus was killed by the scum because he's dangerous to them regardless of his role. |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 29, 2013 2:50:41 GMT -5
2. Master Piell also suddenly stated that he was either going to vote Trident or Wolffe. He said Wolffe because he could be faking and was weird, and Trident because he accused Wolffe suddenly. But notice how he didn't accuse Ventress who had been accusing Wolffe all day. (Sorry if this has something to do with that PM issue because I'm still confused on that). But anyway, this was sudden, and a little suspicious. He could've been a loyal that just thought this made sense (which I suppose it does, but what about Ventress? (unless that's with this PM thing) I mean, she did what Trident did 10x!) Or, he could be a scum trying to push some of us undecided ones into voting two possible loyals (with Wolffe being a more likely loyal). I never planned to vote for Wolffe, he's the protector. I voted for Boba (the character played by Ferus) I didn't plan to vote for the player Boba. And I didn't accuse Ventress because she claimed the inspector role to me. Ventress made a statement against Boba (the character) and then Ivar said he thought Boba (the player) was acting weird, which made it look like he was following Ventress without any good proof, but he accidentally mixed up the two Bobas. |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 29, 2013 2:51:34 GMT -5
Ventress didn't suggest he should reveal his role... No I meant Ventress told Wolffe to protect himself Or am I mistaken That's true. And I don't think people blame him for that, but he did reveal his role way too early. |
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