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Post by Pinda on Feb 18, 2014 15:47:36 GMT -5
Yes, and I'm ensuring freedom of health, equality and basic needs. But no free market.... FREEDOM FOR THE MASSES REVOLT A free market only benefits the elite and makes them rise above the rest. Thus causing inequality and decreasing personal and political freedom.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 16:04:53 GMT -5
But no free market.... FREEDOM FOR THE MASSES REVOLT A free market only benefits the elite and makes them rise above the rest. Thus causing inequality and decreasing personal and political freedom. YOU WITHHOLDER OF COMPLETE FREEDOM
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Post by Pinda on Feb 18, 2014 16:07:17 GMT -5
A free market only benefits the elite and makes them rise above the rest. Thus causing inequality and decreasing personal and political freedom. YOU WITHHOLDER OF COMPLETE FREEDOM You enemy of equality!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 17:03:06 GMT -5
YOU WITHHOLDER OF COMPLETE FREEDOM You enemy of equality! Pfft. In the FPPCIE, everyone is equal.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 18, 2014 17:31:33 GMT -5
Pfft. In the FPPCIE, everyone is equal. Only on paper. But not in reality.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 17:45:50 GMT -5
Pfft. In the FPPCIE, everyone is equal. Only on paper. But not in reality. Everything is equally distributed. Explain.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 18, 2014 17:47:22 GMT -5
Only on paper. But not in reality. Everything is equally distributed. Explain. Then there's no economical freedom in the FPPCIE either.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 18, 2014 17:50:36 GMT -5
Pfft. In the FPPCIE, everyone is equal. That would make a coup very easy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 18:10:42 GMT -5
Pfft. In the FPPCIE, everyone is equal. That would make a coup very easy Nova Roma is a very unifying idea...
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 8:16:10 GMT -5
That would make a coup very easy Nova Roma is a very unifying idea. That doesn't necessarily mean people wouldn't want to take control of it. After all, Nova Roma hasn't been too effective so far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 12:15:23 GMT -5
Nova Roma is a very unifying idea. That doesn't necessarily mean people wouldn't want to take control of it. After all, Nova Roma hasn't been too effective so far. Actually it has.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 12:23:31 GMT -5
That doesn't necessarily mean people wouldn't want to take control of it. After all, Nova Roma hasn't been too effective so far. Actually it has. How so?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 12:25:41 GMT -5
The people are unified. That's all that truly matters.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 12:32:41 GMT -5
The people are unified. That's all that truly matters. Your people may be very unified but no people are completely unified.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 12:36:36 GMT -5
The people are unified. That's all that truly matters. Your people may be very unified but no people are completely unified. Hopefully we won't have another war.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 12:39:22 GMT -5
Your people may be very unified but no people are completely unified. Hopefully we won't have another war. I share your opinion. But Canisiuso's acts must not go unpunished. I want to avoid war but based on what Canisiuso has already said, either he will declare war or I will. Only the FPPCIE's influence in FeruMavia can stop this war from occurring.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 12:46:23 GMT -5
Hopefully we won't have another war. I share your opinion. But Canisiuso's acts must not go unpunished. I want to avoid war but based on what Canisiuso has already said, either he will declare war or I will. Only the FPPCIE's influence in FeruMavia can stop this war from occurring. You've got to be kidding.....you do realize by starting another war you'd no doubt be creating another round of human right atrocities, therefore, eventually starting another war?
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 12:51:04 GMT -5
I share your opinion. But Canisiuso's acts must not go unpunished. I want to avoid war but based on what Canisiuso has already said, either he will declare war or I will. Only the FPPCIE's influence in FeruMavia can stop this war from occurring. You've got to be kidding.....you do realize by starting another war you'd no doubt be creating another round of human right atrocities, therefore, eventually starting another war? I'm not going to. If Cansiuso gets punished.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 13:02:39 GMT -5
You've got to be kidding.....you do realize by starting another war you'd no doubt be creating another round of human right atrocities, therefore, eventually starting another war? I'm not going to. If Cansiuso gets punished. Be realistic. You and I both know Canisiuso will never agree to those terms.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 13:10:16 GMT -5
I'm not going to. If Cansiuso gets punished. Be realistic. You and I both know Canisiuso will never agree to those terms. Well I can always make terms that are more lenient. Plus, it is your choice whether you want this war to erupt into something huge. You intervene, everyone in FeruMavia intervenes as a result the Glorious Confederacy intervenes. However if this is left for Canisiuso and the BFU to sort out, any wars (not saying there would be one) would end quickly, within a few weeks. If the rest of FeruMavia and Glorious Confederacy intervenes a war would turn into a long,bloody drawn out war. As there is a diplomatic solution, I will pursue that instead of war for the time being, if Canisiuso is ready to hear more lenient terms. But he just left as soon as he knew he would be punished.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 13:17:32 GMT -5
Be realistic. You and I both know Canisiuso will never agree to those terms. Well I can always make terms that are more lenient. Plus, it is your choice whether you want this war to erupt into something huge. You intervene, everyone in FeruMavia intervenes as a result the Glorious Confederacy intervenes. However if this is left for Canisiuso and the BFU to sort out, any wars (not saying there would be one) would end quickly, within a few weeks. If the rest of FeruMavia and Glorious Confederacy intervenes a war would turn into a long,bloody drawn out war. As there is a diplomatic solution, I will pursue that instead of war for the time being, if Canisiuso is ready to hear more lenient terms. But he just left as soon as he knew he would be punished. For one....Akrokio will intervene whether I do or not. But we won't stand by idly and watch you take over Canisiuso. Neither will we watch you beat the stuffing out of a country that is in our region. And Canisiuso has assured me that he will not declare war. So no matter how it goes down, you will be the one to begin war and death.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 13:20:46 GMT -5
Well I can always make terms that are more lenient. Plus, it is your choice whether you want this war to erupt into something huge. You intervene, everyone in FeruMavia intervenes as a result the Glorious Confederacy intervenes. However if this is left for Canisiuso and the BFU to sort out, any wars (not saying there would be one) would end quickly, within a few weeks. If the rest of FeruMavia and Glorious Confederacy intervenes a war would turn into a long,bloody drawn out war. As there is a diplomatic solution, I will pursue that instead of war for the time being, if Canisiuso is ready to hear more lenient terms. But he just left as soon as he knew he would be punished. For one....Akrokio will intervene whether I do or not. But we won't stand by idly and watch you take over Canisiuso. Neither will we watch you beat the stuffing out of a country that is in our region. And Canisiuso has assured me that he will not declare war. So no matter how it goes down, you will be the one to begin war and death. 1. I have said numerous times, the goal is not and will never be to take over Canisiuso, it is to impose sanctions 2. Canisiuso's telegrams to me say otherwise. Canisiuso's aims were to provoke the BFU to war, that is exactly the same as him declaring war because the BFU will never stand for a small nation such as Canisiuso to get away with something like executing our PoWs
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 13:27:25 GMT -5
For one....Akrokio will intervene whether I do or not. But we won't stand by idly and watch you take over Canisiuso. Neither will we watch you beat the stuffing out of a country that is in our region. And Canisiuso has assured me that he will not declare war. So no matter how it goes down, you will be the one to begin war and death. 1. I have said numerous times, the goal is not to take over Canisiuso, it is to impose sanctions 2. Canisiuso's telegrams to me say otherwise. Canisiuso's aims were to provoke the BFU to war, that is exactly the same as him declaring war because the BFU will never stand for a small nation such as Canisiuso to get away with something like executing our PoWs You know, it would seem to me that it would be opposite. I wouldn't mind a small nation provoking me, by I couldn't stand a larger nation doing it. Just know that if you declare war on Canisiuso, it will be the exact same thing as declaring war on me
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 13:36:08 GMT -5
1. I have said numerous times, the goal is not to take over Canisiuso, it is to impose sanctions 2. Canisiuso's telegrams to me say otherwise. Canisiuso's aims were to provoke the BFU to war, that is exactly the same as him declaring war because the BFU will never stand for a small nation such as Canisiuso to get away with something like executing our PoWs You know, it would seem to me that it would be opposite. I wouldn't mind a small nation provoking me, by I couldn't stand a larger nation doing it. Just know that if you declare war on Canisiuso, it will be the exact same thing as declaring war on me I wouldn't mind a small nation provoking me. However what Canisiuso done was unacceptable. Sure if they just threatened me, I wouldn't pay any attention. But Canisiuso actually done something that warrants the BFU's attention. And if you stand with them, so be it but you stand alongside murderers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 13:45:30 GMT -5
You know, it would seem to me that it would be opposite. I wouldn't mind a small nation provoking me, by I couldn't stand a larger nation doing it. Just know that if you declare war on Canisiuso, it will be the exact same thing as declaring war on me I wouldn't mind a small nation provoking me. However what Canisiuso done was unacceptable. Sure if they just threatened me, I wouldn't pay any attention. But Canisiuso actually done something that warrants the BFU's attention. And if you stand with them, so be it but you stand alongside murderers. What next Boba? No doubt millions of life's will be lost....
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 13:49:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a small nation provoking me. However what Canisiuso done was unacceptable. Sure if they just threatened me, I wouldn't pay any attention. But Canisiuso actually done something that warrants the BFU's attention. And if you stand with them, so be it but you stand alongside murderers. What next Boba? No doubt millions of life's will be lost.... Millions have already been lost. And millions more will die if nations like Canisiuso are allowed go around slaughtering people whenever they feel like it. And I'm being pretty lenient to Canisiuso considering what has happened, I'm sure most other nations would have declared war by now. But I just want to find a diplomatic solution, diplomacy come before war. And you started the last war for no reason causing needless death, if you did not do that our regions would be on rather good relations about now
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 13:53:28 GMT -5
What next Boba? No doubt millions of life's will be lost.... Millions have already been lost. And millions more will die if nations like Canisiuso are allowed go around slaughtering people whenever they feel like it. And I'm being pretty lenient to Canisiuso considering what has happened, I'm sure most other nations would have declared war by now. But I just want to find a diplomatic solution, diplomacy come before war. And you started the last war for no reason causing needless death, if you did not do that our regions would be on rather good relations about now I'm giving you a nice offer. Back off, step away, and we can all forget about this and go home. You can choose blood, or you can choose calm waters, and clear skies. Your choice. Be the epitome of Humanity, or you can take better, brighter steps.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 13:57:35 GMT -5
OOC
When war breaks out, I can make the thread this time
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 14:01:43 GMT -5
Millions have already been lost. And millions more will die if nations like Canisiuso are allowed go around slaughtering people whenever they feel like it. And I'm being pretty lenient to Canisiuso considering what has happened, I'm sure most other nations would have declared war by now. But I just want to find a diplomatic solution, diplomacy come before war. And you started the last war for no reason causing needless death, if you did not do that our regions would be on rather good relations about now I'm giving you a nice offer. Back off, step away, and we can all forget about this and go home. You can choose blood, or you can choose calm waters, and clear skies. Your choice. Be the epitome of Humanity, or you can take better, brighter steps. You misunderstand, Canisiuso executed thousands, Canisiuso chose blood already as they knew they would face backlash. Canisiuso must accept punishment before this situation deteriorates any further
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 19, 2014 14:06:35 GMT -5
OOC When war breaks out, I can make the thread this time OOC: If war breaks out and you make a thread please remember: -Make the war MT or PMT -Make sure there is a cap on military numbers per nation. We don't have to use NsTracker or anything but we have to put limits on nation's army. 8% of population is generally as far as any nation can go without their economy collapsing.
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