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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 29, 2014 22:49:06 GMT -5
I'm glad that Dan didn't become a carbon copy of Simon. I think they'll eventually meet up and become friends. Yeah, I think next season Dan may even help Simon with issues. I think they'll both die next season.
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Post by Potato on Aug 29, 2014 22:59:36 GMT -5
Pretty sweet finale! I liked the cliffhanger ending. I had a feeling that Tyson would die and Hung Soy would betray Simon. I'm actually surprised Dan and Simon are brothers though, since it was beginning to seem obvious almost. I called the Wamchatkan rescue which was funny. And I briefly thought Dan wouldn't kill Simon if he had the chance, but I was more so expecting him to be stopped before he actually could. A good finale to the best season of this series. Thank you. And LOL, yeah, when I read your Flickr comment I thought you had already seen those pictures or something but I guess not... good guess. I'm glad that Dan didn't become a carbon copy of Simon. I think they'll eventually meet up and become friends. Yeah, I thought it'd be good to show that Dan is able to resist the path that Simon went down despite being tempted by it. They will meet up again next season, obviously, and the conditions in which they meet under we'll be different.
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Post by Potato on Aug 29, 2014 23:09:09 GMT -5
Some trivia for these episodes and Season 3 overall (I'm sure I'll add in more later): Episode 10, the finale, went through several name changes. At the very beginning it was going to be called "Rise of the White Scar" but as everything began to come together I thought that that didn't fit. The next idea I came up with was "Death Sentence" (which, at a time, was going to be the title of the Season 2 finale). I then ended up choosing "Mercy" because it was simple and fit. I had just about always planned for Tyson's grandfather to survive to Season 4. However, while I was filming the finale, I just felt like it would make sense for Simon to shoot Tyson's grandfather in that last scene. That way, no one will no that Simon killed Tyson. So that was originally filmed and in the episode with text. However, after watching the finale as a whole, I felt that the ending of the episode was too crowded and there was too much stuff going on, so I cut that part out. Tyson's grandfather is still alive like I had planned. The flashback scene, done at the very beginning of the season, was obviously made before I filmed the episodes that the scene took place in. When I filmed it for episode 1, I didn't plan on Simon losing a hand yet, so that's why he had two in it. And that's also why I had to give him a glove to wear, so it would explain why he has two hands again. So Simon losing his hand was added in a bit later because it went along with the Prophecy of the Ghost Hand. Season 4 will be the final season and will most likely be 10 episodes again. Simon, Dan, and Sen will return, along with characters like Hung Soy, Mira, and Tyson's grandfather. There will also be several new characters like usual. Red Death will be the main villain.
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Post by Star on Aug 30, 2014 8:27:51 GMT -5
Sounds good. I know it's too early to tell, but you seem to make these episodes at fairly fast pace. Do you think we can expect Season 4 to begin sometime between November-January? Maybe even close to the 1 year anniversary which is like mid November?
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Post by Star on Aug 30, 2014 8:31:54 GMT -5
Pretty sweet finale! I liked the cliffhanger ending. I had a feeling that Tyson would die and Hung Soy would betray Simon. I'm actually surprised Dan and Simon are brothers though, since it was beginning to seem obvious almost. I called the Wamchatkan rescue which was funny. And I briefly thought Dan wouldn't kill Simon if he had the chance, but I was more so expecting him to be stopped before he actually could. A good finale to the best season of this series. Thank you. And LOL, yeah, when I read your Flickr comment I thought you had already seen those pictures or something but I guess not... good guess. I was just trying to be funny actually. But as the scene continued, I began to wonder if maybe it would happen, especially since they were on the roof of the warehouse. And wasn't there also a warehouse fight like this in season 1 between the Law Enforcers, Black Scar Gang, and Simon?
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Post by Potato on Aug 30, 2014 9:20:12 GMT -5
Sounds good. I know it's too early to tell, but you seem to make these episodes at fairly fast pace. Do you think we can expect Season 4 to begin sometime between November-January? Maybe even close to the 1 year anniversary which is like mid November? November/December is probably the most likely date right now. I have barely anytime to film anything for the next month or two, but when I can film again I'll probably aim for those months. Thank you. And LOL, yeah, when I read your Flickr comment I thought you had already seen those pictures or something but I guess not... good guess. I was just trying to be funny actually. But as the scene continued, I began to wonder if maybe it would happen, especially since they were on the roof of the warehouse. And wasn't there also a warehouse fight like this in season 1 between the Law Enforcers, Black Scar Gang, and Simon? Yeah, there was a similar fight (although it was at the Black Scar Gang's base). All 3 finales have had some sort of crime battle between different groups.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 30, 2014 14:16:33 GMT -5
Biggest questions for Season 4:
Will Simon die a good or bad person?
Will Simon and Dan unite?
How did Red Death return?
What does Tyson's Grandfather foresee?
What are Hung Soy and Red Death planning?
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Post by Potato on Aug 30, 2014 18:41:45 GMT -5
And as another piece of trivia, Dan and Simon being brothers had not always been planned. When Dan was created in Season 2, I made him as his own character. But when I started getting into Season 3, I figured that it could be a cool twist if done right. Also, it unintentionally all fits really well (Quan mentioned making a promise to his and Simon's dad, and then we see just Dan and his mom at Bakerstown). Some things will need explaining in Season 4 though.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 30, 2014 18:51:11 GMT -5
And as another piece of trivia, Dan and Simon being brothers had not always been planned. When Dan was created in Season 2, I made him as his own character. But when I started getting into Season 3, I figured that it could be a cool twist if done right. Also, it unintentionally all fits really well (Quan mentioned making a promise to his and Simon's dad, and then we see just Dan and his mom at Bakerstown). Some things will need explaining in Season 4 though. Just sorta wondering, what did you originally plan to do with Dan?
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Post by Potato on Aug 30, 2014 19:48:56 GMT -5
And as another piece of trivia, Dan and Simon being brothers had not always been planned. When Dan was created in Season 2, I made him as his own character. But when I started getting into Season 3, I figured that it could be a cool twist if done right. Also, it unintentionally all fits really well (Quan mentioned making a promise to his and Simon's dad, and then we see just Dan and his mom at Bakerstown). Some things will need explaining in Season 4 though. Just sorta wondering, what did you originally plan to do with Dan? Everything that had happened in Season 3 (and most likely a lot in Season 4) would have still been the same. Since Dan doesn't find out until his final scene it didn't really affect this season. But to answer your question, it didn't really change a whole lot, so what happens with Dan will still be similar to what I had had planned.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 31, 2014 2:28:52 GMT -5
Well Potato, you can pat yourself on the back several times with that finale. The surprises, the battles, the bomb death, that bike joke I loved it all. I guess I was expecting Dan and Simon to be related at least, but I was unsure of how they were. And now that Dan isn't out for vengeance, maybe he'll try to get his brother to the right side again. Red Death's return is really not what I expected, which only leaves me guessing what the heck's gonna happen next. In short a really epic finale. It's just a shame next season will be the last.
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Post by Potato on Aug 31, 2014 11:10:29 GMT -5
Well Potato, you can pat yourself on the back several times with that finale. The surprises, the battles, the bomb death, that bike joke I loved it all. I guess I was expecting Dan and Simon to be related at least, but I was unsure of how they were. And now that Dan isn't out for vengeance, maybe he'll try to get his brother to the right side again. Red Death's return is really not what I expected, which only leaves me guessing what the heck's gonna happen next. In short a really epic finale. It's just a shame next season will be the last. Thanks you. And yeah, I thought that Season 4 would be a good time to end it. That way the series won't get drawn out too much.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 31, 2014 11:14:35 GMT -5
Well Potato, you can pat yourself on the back several times with that finale. The surprises, the battles, the bomb death, that bike joke I loved it all. I guess I was expecting Dan and Simon to be related at least, but I was unsure of how they were. And now that Dan isn't out for vengeance, maybe he'll try to get his brother to the right side again. Red Death's return is really not what I expected, which only leaves me guessing what the heck's gonna happen next. In short a really epic finale. It's just a shame next season will be the last. Thanks you. And yeah, I thought that Season 4 would be a good time to end it. That way the series won't get drawn out too much. Guess I'll have to keep waiting for a series that'll make more seasons than TCW. Not by episode volume of course
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 11:16:17 GMT -5
Thanks you. And yeah, I thought that Season 4 would be a good time to end it. That way the series won't get drawn out too much. Guess I'll have to keep waiting for a series that'll make more seasons than TCW. Not by episode volume of course I actually considered that. Maybe I could try making Son of Dathomir in LEGO form
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 31, 2014 11:18:03 GMT -5
Guess I'll have to keep waiting for a series that'll make more seasons than TCW. Not by episode volume of course I actually considered that. Maybe I could try making Son of Dathomir in LEGO form You know what, that actually sounds like a brilliant idea
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 21:22:25 GMT -5
Awaiting your comment, Kenobi
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 31, 2014 21:31:38 GMT -5
So I just finished it sorry I didn't see it earlier But wow... That was really awesome Potato everything was just epic. Totally called Simon being Dan's brother but I guess it was kinda expected the way Mira was acting So that will definitely be interesting to see in season 4. As will Red Death. After Tyson died I didn't know what to expect next but yo that's cool... Also I really liked the totem stuff. Bruce was one of my favorite characters in the show and I kinda miss him actually. But at least Simon still has Sen. Looking forward to him as well I thought he'd die here. But yeah again totally awesome
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 31, 2014 21:37:27 GMT -5
Tbh while season 3 was definitely improved from the previous two seasons in different aspects, I have to say I might like the first two a bit more (other than the s3 finale) Like the feelings yo... In season one we saw Simon as a law enforcer which was cool I thought those guys were pretty neat. Then later on Simon took a bit of a darker path. Then we met Bruce in season 2 which was great. I liked their adventure together with the different gangs and whatnot. Again sad to see him go. While season 3 was good it was just... Idk like Simon was at his darkest there. Law enforcer to gang member, Simon has really come a long way... And like I said before sometimes I forget that. But anyway I think season 4 is going to be the best one. So hype buh
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 31, 2014 21:59:21 GMT -5
#tbt
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Post by Potato on Aug 31, 2014 22:00:59 GMT -5
Tbh while season 3 was definitely improved from the previous two seasons in different aspects, I have to say I might like the first two a bit more (other than the s3 finale) Like the feelings yo... In season one we saw Simon as a law enforcer which was cool I thought those guys were pretty neat. Then later on Simon took a bit of a darker path. Then we met Bruce in season 2 which was great. I liked their adventure together with the different gangs and whatnot. Again sad to see him go. While season 3 was good it was just... Idk like Simon was at his darkest there. Law enforcer to gang member, Simon has really come a long way... And like I said before sometimes I forget that. But anyway I think season 4 is going to be the best one. So hype buh Thank you. I myself wasn't too sure on Season 3 in the beginning (mainly because I was making so many changes and I didn't know how it would turn out) while Season 2 had more of a direct line of events. I think Season 2 flowed a bit better while Season 3 went into more detail with things.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 22:01:24 GMT -5
#tbt
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Post by Potato on Aug 31, 2014 22:02:17 GMT -5
Season 1 had bad photography though. But that was because I had a different camera then.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 31, 2014 22:04:10 GMT -5
(insert Boromir quote here)
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 31, 2014 22:07:21 GMT -5
Lol more tbt Yeah picture quality has definitely improved
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 12, 2014 10:23:06 GMT -5
I think it's pretty obvious that Simon will die. He can't really just get away with all he's done. And a "Happily Ever After" wouldn't really fit this series. But I have no idea who will kill him. He already had the whole slow "I'm going to die" thing in Season 3 so I doubt that'll be repeated. Maybe the words "Red Death" have had foreshadowing this whole time. And maybe because he's back Simon will die a "Red Death".
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Post by Potato on Sept 12, 2014 18:14:30 GMT -5
I think it's pretty obvious that Simon will die. He can't really just get away with all he's done. And a "Happily Ever After" wouldn't really fit this series. But I have no idea who will kill him. He already had the whole slow "I'm going to die" thing in Season 3 so I doubt that'll be repeated. Maybe the words "Red Death" have had foreshadowing this whole time. And maybe because he's back Simon will die a "Red Death". The ending of the show and whatever happens to Simon is definitely something I have to be very thoughtful about. I'm actually still not 100% sure how it's all going to end, but I have an idea for the most part.
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 21, 2014 20:06:58 GMT -5
Well I'm on Season 2 of Breaking Bad so I've been noticing a lot of nods in this. But still Heisenburg and White Scar are really different. Heisenburg is motivated by cancer and his family while Simon is motivated by revenge and trying to find a place in the world. Tuco's Uncle sorta reminds me of Tyson's Grandfather.
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Post by Potato on Sept 22, 2014 0:09:52 GMT -5
Well I'm on Season 2 of Breaking Bad so I've been noticing a lot of nods in this. But still Heisenburg and White Scar are really different. Heisenburg is motivated by cancer and his family while Simon is motivated by revenge and trying to find a place in the world. Tuco's Uncle sorta reminds me of Tyson's Grandfather. Breaking Bad's amazing.
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Post by Star on Sept 22, 2014 16:43:51 GMT -5
Didn't you say season 2 was especially influenced by Breaking Bad? Or am I imagining things...
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 22, 2014 17:30:38 GMT -5
Didn't you say season 2 was especially influenced by Breaking Bad? Or am I imagining things... It kinda seems like it was. Scar and the Centrzores sorta remind me of Tuco and Krazy 8.
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