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Post by Pinda on Feb 25, 2014 11:02:54 GMT -5
Some more stuff I noticed after watching the trailer over and over. First off, I'm sure most people noticed this, but when Yoda sees the vision of Order 66 you can see a quick shot of Sidious killing Kit Fisto. Second, I'm sure Pinda and Ivar already know this since they've seen this arc, but it looks like Fives shaves his head later on. I paused at one point in the trailer and it showed a bald clone with the 5 tattoo like Fives has and the same goatee. Another shot also shows Shaak Ti force pushing that clone against a wall, so it looks like Fives gets caught by the jedi eventually after he's falsely accused for trying to kill Palpatine (that isn't a spoiler, it was in the episode descriptions). Oh, also, those four things that told Yoda to go to the ancient home world of the sith all seem to have different expressions, which is sort of cool. Yes, Fives shaved his head. I won't tell you why though...
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Post by bane on Feb 25, 2014 11:48:41 GMT -5
Some more stuff I noticed after watching the trailer over and over. First off, I'm sure most people noticed this, but when Yoda sees the vision of Order 66 you can see a quick shot of Sidious killing Kit Fisto. Second, I'm sure Pinda and Ivar already know this since they've seen this arc, but it looks like Fives shaves his head later on. I paused at one point in the trailer and it showed a bald clone with the 5 tattoo like Fives has and the same goatee. Another shot also shows Shaak Ti force pushing that clone against a wall, so it looks like Fives gets caught by the jedi eventually after he's falsely accused for trying to kill Palpatine (that isn't a spoiler, it was in the episode descriptions). Oh, also, those four things that told Yoda to go to the ancient home world of the sith all seem to have different expressions, which is sort of cool. Yes, Fives shaved his head. I won't tell you why though...
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 12:34:14 GMT -5
No. George Lucas worked on TCW, he can overwrite the EU whenever he wants because he hasn't read all of it and after all it's his story. I don't see what the point is of slightly changing the name of a planet though, so I doubt he did that. First of all, there are exceptions to that. Korriban has appeared in so many pieces of EU that changing it is preposterous, it would ruin many storylines. TCW has destroyed so many good EU stories that people worked long and hard on. Most of the time, TCW stories that took the place of the EU ones were inferior.
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 25, 2014 13:21:13 GMT -5
No. George Lucas worked on TCW, he can overwrite the EU whenever he wants because he hasn't read all of it and after all it's his story. I don't see what the point is of slightly changing the name of a planet though, so I doubt he did that. First of all, there are exceptions to that. Korriban has appeared in so many pieces of EU that changing it is preposterous, it would ruin many storylines. TCW has destroyed so many good EU stories that people worked long and hard on. Most of the time, TCW stories that took the place of the EU ones were inferior. LOL
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 13:23:06 GMT -5
First of all, there are exceptions to that. Korriban has appeared in so many pieces of EU that changing it is preposterous, it would ruin many storylines. TCW has destroyed so many good EU stories that people worked long and hard on. Most of the time, TCW stories that took the place of the EU ones were inferior. LOL You haven't read much EU then it seems. Mandalorians is a good example. The portrayal of the mandalorians in TCW wasn't very good at all. Normal Mandalorians>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pacifist Mandalorians
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 25, 2014 13:25:41 GMT -5
You haven't read much EU then it seems. Mandalorians is a good example. The portrayal of the mandalorians in TCW wasn't very good at all. Normal Mandalorians>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pacifist Mandalorians The normal mandalorians killed all the pacifists so I don't see how that breaks any continuity.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 13:29:19 GMT -5
You haven't read much EU then it seems. Mandalorians is a good example. The portrayal of the mandalorians in TCW wasn't very good at all. Normal Mandalorians>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pacifist Mandalorians The normal mandalorians killed all the pacifists so I don't see how that breaks any continuity. Duchess Satine dying doesn't mean the end for pacifist mandalorians... And the point is that TCW writers had no consideration for the people who spent their time creating some brilliant stories. TCW ending is somewhat positive in that respect, the EU will now remain untainted by them anymore.
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 25, 2014 13:35:44 GMT -5
The normal mandalorians killed all the pacifists so I don't see how that breaks any continuity. Duchess Satine dying doesn't mean the end for pacifist mandalorians... And the point is that TCW writers had no consideration for the people who spent their time creating some brilliant stories. TCW ending is somewhat positive in that respect, the EU will now remain untainted by them anymore. LOL
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 13:37:10 GMT -5
The normal mandalorians killed all the pacifists so I don't see how that breaks any continuity. Duchess Satine dying doesn't mean the end for pacifist mandalorians... And the point is that TCW writers had no consideration for the people who spent their time creating some brilliant stories. TCW ending is somewhat positive in that respect, the EU will now remain untainted by them anymore. What about Rebels?
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 13:37:34 GMT -5
Duchess Satine dying doesn't mean the end for pacifist mandalorians... And the point is that TCW writers had no consideration for the people who spent their time creating some brilliant stories. TCW ending is somewhat positive in that respect, the EU will now remain untainted by them anymore. LOL k
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 13:38:49 GMT -5
Duchess Satine dying doesn't mean the end for pacifist mandalorians... And the point is that TCW writers had no consideration for the people who spent their time creating some brilliant stories. TCW ending is somewhat positive in that respect, the EU will now remain untainted by them anymore. What about Rebels? There isn't much in that era that they can ruin thankfully. Only TFU is in danger but all the good EU stories in the Dark Times era are set before Rebels is set (specifically the Darth Vader stories)
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 25, 2014 13:39:59 GMT -5
Yah, it's fantastic news that Disney is stopping TCW from contradicting 2 or 3 EU sources. Now they can destroy the entire EU with SW7, spin-offs, and Rebels!!!
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 13:40:08 GMT -5
There isn't much in that era that they can ruin thankfully. Only TFU is in danger but all the good EU stories in the Dark Times era are set before Rebels is set (specifically the Darth Vader stories) What if they bring in a Jedi Vader was supposed to kill? They could still ruin the Vader stories along with other ones too.
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 13:40:49 GMT -5
Yah, it's fantastic news that Disney is stopping TCW from contradicting 2 or 3 EU sources. Now they can destroy the entire EU with SW7 and Rebels!!! YIPPEE!!!
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 13:43:22 GMT -5
Yah, it's fantastic news that Disney is stopping TCW from contradicting 2 or 3 EU sources. Now they can destroy the entire EU with SW7, spin-offs, and Rebels!!! Well, post-Episode 6 EU is crap. The time Rebels is set in only threatens the TFU not the EU stories like the Darth Vader ones, which are brilliant. And the spin offs will most likely do little to interfere with the EU, they will probably interfere more with the movies and even TCW
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 13:45:35 GMT -5
There isn't much in that era that they can ruin thankfully. Only TFU is in danger but all the good EU stories in the Dark Times era are set before Rebels is set (specifically the Darth Vader stories) What if they bring in a Jedi Vader was supposed to kill? They could still ruin the Vader stories along with other ones too. To an extent, but most of the Jedi Vader killed didn't have too much character development. The ones who did obviously died.
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 13:48:03 GMT -5
Yah, it's fantastic news that Disney is stopping TCW from contradicting 2 or 3 EU sources. Now they can destroy the entire EU with SW7, spin-offs, and Rebels!!! Well, post-Episode 6 EU is crap. The time Rebels is set in only threatens the TFU not the EU stories like the Darth Vader ones, which are brilliant. And the spin offs will most likely do little to interfere with the EU, they will probably interfere more with the movies and even TCW I've seen some of those EU stories myself and they are awful.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 13:52:41 GMT -5
Well, post-Episode 6 EU is crap. The time Rebels is set in only threatens the TFU not the EU stories like the Darth Vader ones, which are brilliant. And the spin offs will most likely do little to interfere with the EU, they will probably interfere more with the movies and even TCW I've seen some of those EU stories myself and they are awful. Depends which ones you have read. Some are awful. Some are brilliant.The quality of EU varies from writer to writer and there are a lot of writers. TCW has had some abysmal episodes but lot of people single out the EU. And which ones did you find awful? People here seem to say EU is awful but demonstrate poor knowledge of EU. If you cannot name them and explain why, calling them "awful" doesn't mean anything.
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Post by bane on Feb 25, 2014 14:54:25 GMT -5
You haven't read much EU then it seems. Mandalorians is a good example. The portrayal of the mandalorians in TCW wasn't very good at all. Normal Mandalorians>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pacifist Mandalorians The normal mandalorians killed all the pacifists so I don't see how that breaks any continuity. ...If you mean Death Watch, then yes...
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 15:30:27 GMT -5
I've seen some of those EU stories myself and they are awful. Depends which ones you have read. Some are awful. Some are brilliant.The quality of EU varies from writer to writer and there are a lot of writers. TCW has had some abysmal episodes but lot of people single out the EU. And which ones did you find awful? People here seem to say EU is awful but demonstrate poor knowledge of EU. If you cannot name them and explain why, calling them "awful" doesn't mean anything. I've just read some stuff one Wookiepedia. The one with Chewbacca's death and that Imperial dude named Trawb don't sound very good. Same with stuff about C-3PO and R2-D2 being abandoned. Then it gets confusing with all the kids of Luke, Han, Leia and so on.
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Post by Kenbo on Feb 25, 2014 15:31:27 GMT -5
So any guesses on who that Sith with red armor and a red cloak Yoda is fighting is... I was looking up Sith that looked similar and I think Darth Marr comes kind of close but idk... Maybe it's a new character.. It's Sidious. In red armor...? K...
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Post by Namialus on Feb 25, 2014 15:34:07 GMT -5
I have no idea how Kit Fisto's death is supposed to work out... Well, like others have said, it's probably just a vision. But if it is Yoda that sees it, there's got to be a way his mind's erased. All of this really reminds me of Mortis. I guess these are the episodes they were talking about when they said ideas from it would be "returned to later". Remember that the future is not set in stone. Yoda even said "many possible futures there are" and he could have thought this was another possible future.
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 15:34:15 GMT -5
Vizsla's force ghost. OH MY GOSH!!!
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 15:42:19 GMT -5
Depends which ones you have read. Some are awful. Some are brilliant.The quality of EU varies from writer to writer and there are a lot of writers. TCW has had some abysmal episodes but lot of people single out the EU. And which ones did you find awful? People here seem to say EU is awful but demonstrate poor knowledge of EU. If you cannot name them and explain why, calling them "awful" doesn't mean anything. I've just read some stuff one Wookiepedia. The one with Chewbacca's death and that Imperial dude named Trawb don't sound very good. Same with stuff about C-3PO and R2-D2 being abandoned. Then it gets confusing with all the kids of Luke, Han, Leia and so on. Ah, you mean those ones. Well they do suck pretty bad, Thrawn is okay though. I thought you were talking about Dark Times EU.
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Post by Namialus on Feb 25, 2014 15:44:58 GMT -5
When Yoda is on the bridge or the big one that says "Jedi!"?
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Post by Namialus on Feb 25, 2014 15:46:05 GMT -5
I've seen some of those EU stories myself and they are awful. Depends which ones you have read. Some are awful. Some are brilliant.The quality of EU varies from writer to writer and there are a lot of writers. TCW has had some abysmal episodes but lot of people single out the EU. And which ones did you find awful? People here seem to say EU is awful but demonstrate poor knowledge of EU. If you cannot name them and explain why, calling them "awful" doesn't mean anything. I like the EU and agree that some of it is amazing but I don't go apesh!t crazy when TCW changes something about it.
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Post by Kenbo on Feb 25, 2014 15:47:52 GMT -5
When Yoda is on the bridge or the big one that says "Jedi!"? I guess... However I watched the trailer on mute when I was "analyzing" it so idk what he said... .... It was early in the morning k
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Post by Namialus on Feb 25, 2014 15:49:19 GMT -5
When Yoda is on the bridge or the big one that says "Jedi!"? I guess... However I watched the trailer on mute when I was "analyzing" it so idk what he said... .... It was early in the morning k So the big one? We don't know who. But probably some spirit on Morriband.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 25, 2014 15:54:19 GMT -5
Depends which ones you have read. Some are awful. Some are brilliant.The quality of EU varies from writer to writer and there are a lot of writers. TCW has had some abysmal episodes but lot of people single out the EU. And which ones did you find awful? People here seem to say EU is awful but demonstrate poor knowledge of EU. If you cannot name them and explain why, calling them "awful" doesn't mean anything. I like the EU and agree that some of it is amazing but I don't go apesh!t crazy when TCW changes something about it. Yet TCW has done this so many times with so many valuable pieces of EU. Making Moriband the Sith homeworld is a bigger change than you may think. Even if it is an alternative name for Korriban it is stupid because Moriband is mentioned by no one over the course of thousands of years. Also, EU writers have put in a lot of effort to write their stories. It takes a great amount of dedication. Then TCW writers just dispose of this when they see fit. And I'm not going crazy, I'm pointing out a negative aspect of TCW & explaining why I dislike it
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Post by Namialus on Feb 25, 2014 15:57:09 GMT -5
I like the EU and agree that some of it is amazing but I don't go apesh!t crazy when TCW changes something about it. Yet TCW has done this so many times with so many valuable pieces of EU. Making Moriband the Sith homeworld is a bigger change than you may think. Even if it is an alternative name for Korriban it is stupid because Moriband is mentioned by no one over the course of thousands of years. Also, EU writers have put in a lot of effort to write their stories. It takes a great amount of dedication. Then TCW writers just dispose of this when they see fit. And I'm not going crazy, I'm pointing out a negative aspect of TCW & explaining why I dislike it Sadly the EU isn't as "valuable," it's not G-canon and thanks to GL it's allowed to be written. But when he wants to change something, no one should be mad because that's exactly why it's called the EU. It's basically published fanfiction that people take seriously, sometimes even more seriously than actual G-canon.
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