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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 0:02:25 GMT -5
She is dookus apprentice. She is an apprentice of a sith. Which makes her sith. She is like all the other sith.
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Post by bobafett590 on May 29, 2013 12:09:41 GMT -5
Dooku has finesse rather than lots of anger. In fact Sith or Dark jedi who have nothing but anger seem to fail, Examples: Savage Oppress (Dark Jedi), his anger was no match for a sith like Sidious. Or the Dark Jedi under Malak's command in the Jedi Civil War were demolished by one jedi. To me Dooku> Savage, Ventress, Jedi Knights and padawans (and some other people that I forgot) (excluding Obi-Wan and Anakin). IMO: Dooku is one of the most Badass sith ever.
Need to clear something up, Ventress is a DARK JEDI not a sith. Serving under a sith means absolutely nothing. Starkiller in the first TFU could be considered a Dark Jedi as well. Not in TFU 2 though, in the second he is more of a Sith Acolyte.
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Post by Whitespine on May 29, 2013 14:23:33 GMT -5
Dooku has finesse rather than lots of anger. In fact Sith or Dark jedi who have nothing but anger seem to fail, Examples: Savage Oppress (Dark Jedi), his anger was no match for a sith like Sidious. Or the Dark Jedi under Malak's command in the Jedi Civil War were demolished by one jedi. To me Dooku> Savage, Ventress, Jedi Knights and padawans (and some other people that I forgot) (excluding Obi-Wan and Anakin). IMO: Dooku is one of the most Badass sith ever. Need to clear something up, Ventress is a DARK JEDI not a sith. Serving under a sith means absolutely nothing. Starkiller in the first TFU could be considered a Dark Jedi as well. Not in TFU 2 though, in the second he is more of a Sith Acolyte. Savage wasn't a dark Jedi because he was never a Jedi to begin with. |
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Post by bobafett590 on May 29, 2013 14:30:14 GMT -5
Dooku has finesse rather than lots of anger. In fact Sith or Dark jedi who have nothing but anger seem to fail, Examples: Savage Oppress (Dark Jedi), his anger was no match for a sith like Sidious. Or the Dark Jedi under Malak's command in the Jedi Civil War were demolished by one jedi. To me Dooku> Savage, Ventress, Jedi Knights and padawans (and some other people that I forgot) (excluding Obi-Wan and Anakin). IMO: Dooku is one of the most Badass sith ever. Need to clear something up, Ventress is a DARK JEDI not a sith. Serving under a sith means absolutely nothing. Starkiller in the first TFU could be considered a Dark Jedi as well. Not in TFU 2 though, in the second he is more of a Sith Acolyte. Savage wasn't a dark Jedi because he was never a Jedi to begin with. I could've said Dark Acolyte, would've had made sense. Just wanted to use Dark Jedi |
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Post by Whitespine on May 29, 2013 14:30:41 GMT -5
Savage wasn't a dark Jedi because he was never a Jedi to begin with. I could've said Dark Acolyte, would've had made sense. Just wanted to use Dark Jedi Yeah. Dark acolyte makes more sense. |
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Post by Namialus on May 29, 2013 14:36:06 GMT -5
Youngling or droid. Both TERRIBLE. Droid arc was condusing on droids. I didn't know what they were saying. The children had snot in there noses. Maybe got cold from sulfer or whatever ice planet they were at. Droids and children where very boring. But I did like huyang. Hondo was an azhole in children arc. But I did like how they gave him more of a darker realistic pirate theme. I think I hate the droid arc more. It had the worst episode in it and it was the worst arc next to youngling. I didn't like mortis arc. It was like harry potter. Dumbldore(old father guy) helps harry ( anikan) the one that must destroy (son) valdamort (The chosen one prophecy). Only a special wand (sword thing)can destroy him. Harry must destroy holocrox (lady person sister). They all trn into bats (like how they can turn into those black things in harry potter). Are you serious? |
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Post by Namialus on May 29, 2013 14:36:38 GMT -5
She works for sith. All sith are pretty much assasins. Ventress has hate, loss and anger. Her master died causing her to be angry, hating the killers, her anger fueled her power. All Sith are not assassin's, far from it....... And Centre as has those emotions, I admit, but she doesn't utilize them in combat. If she did, Sidious, would never have let her develope so far. Pu-lease Are you seriously saying that VENTRESS does not use her emotions in combat? Sidious had Dooku try to kill her BECAUSE of how powerful she was getting. |
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Post by Whitespine on May 29, 2013 14:40:00 GMT -5
All Sith are not assassin's, far from it....... And Centre as has those emotions, I admit, but she doesn't utilize them in combat. If she did, Sidious, would never have let her develope so far. Pu-lease Are you seriously saying that VENTRESS does not use her emotions in combat? Sidious had Dooku try to kill her BECAUSE of how powerful she was getting. He's right. Ventress uses her emotions in combat. I mean...the whole reason Savage was created was so Ventress could get revenge on Dooku. |
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Post by Star on May 29, 2013 15:00:06 GMT -5
Dooku has finesse rather than lots of anger. In fact Sith or Dark jedi who have nothing but anger seem to fail, Examples: Savage Oppress (Dark Jedi), his anger was no match for a sith like Sidious. Or the Dark Jedi under Malak's command in the Jedi Civil War were demolished by one jedi. To me Dooku> Savage, Ventress, Jedi Knights and padawans (and some other people that I forgot) (excluding Obi-Wan and Anakin). IMO: Dooku is one of the most Badass sith ever. Need to clear something up, Ventress is a DARK JEDI not a sith. Serving under a sith means absolutely nothing. Starkiller in the first TFU could be considered a Dark Jedi as well. Not in TFU 2 though, in the second he is more of a Sith Acolyte. Yeah! Dooku rocks! )D  |
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Post by bobafett590 on May 29, 2013 15:01:34 GMT -5
Dooku has finesse rather than lots of anger. In fact Sith or Dark jedi who have nothing but anger seem to fail, Examples: Savage Oppress (Dark Jedi), his anger was no match for a sith like Sidious. Or the Dark Jedi under Malak's command in the Jedi Civil War were demolished by one jedi. To me Dooku> Savage, Ventress, Jedi Knights and padawans (and some other people that I forgot) (excluding Obi-Wan and Anakin). IMO: Dooku is one of the most Badass sith ever. Need to clear something up, Ventress is a DARK JEDI not a sith. Serving under a sith means absolutely nothing. Starkiller in the first TFU could be considered a Dark Jedi as well. Not in TFU 2 though, in the second he is more of a Sith Acolyte. Yeah! Dooku rocks! )D  |
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Post by Star on May 29, 2013 15:03:44 GMT -5
Yeah! Dooku rocks! )D Yes, yes, and yes!  |
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Post by Namialus on May 29, 2013 15:29:38 GMT -5
Are you seriously saying that VENTRESS does not use her emotions in combat? Sidious had Dooku try to kill her BECAUSE of how powerful she was getting. He's right. Ventress uses her emotions in combat. I mean...the whole reason Savage was created was so Ventress could get revenge on Dooku. And all her screams in anger aren't based on emotion? |
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Post by Whitespine on May 29, 2013 15:33:02 GMT -5
He's right. Ventress uses her emotions in combat. I mean...the whole reason Savage was created was so Ventress could get revenge on Dooku. And all her screams in anger aren't based on emotion? They really are. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 15:44:12 GMT -5
He's right. Ventress uses her emotions in combat. I mean...the whole reason Savage was created was so Ventress could get revenge on Dooku. And all her screams in anger aren't based on emotion? No there based of rage . |
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Post by Kenbo on May 29, 2013 16:30:46 GMT -5
I think she could be a Sith but officially, she's not one due to the rule of two....
Well unless she's not completely devoted to the dark side... Then she's a Dark Jedi, I guess
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 16:36:34 GMT -5
I think she could be a Sith but officially, she's not one due to the rule of two.... Well unless she's not completely devoted to the dark side... Then she's a Dark Jedi, I guess Well her being a Jedi would depend on her belief's. And they are certainly not any from the Jedi ways. I just classify her as a sith. Same as Maul and savage. Even Kenobi said Maul and savage were sith as well. In Revival he said "There sith and we need to find them fast" when talking to the bounty hunter. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 29, 2013 16:40:37 GMT -5
I think she could be a Sith but officially, she's not one due to the rule of two.... Well unless she's not completely devoted to the dark side... Then she's a Dark Jedi, I guess Well her being a Jedi would depend on her belief's. And they are certainly not any from the Jedi ways. I just classify her as a sith. Same as Maul and savage. Even Kenobi said Maul and savage were sith as well. In Revival he said "There sith and we need to find them fast" when talking to the bounty hunter. I think sometimes Sith and Jedi are black and white: if you're "evil", have red eyes, and/or use Darkside powers, you're a Sith. And then Jedi characteristics are pretty obvious like living in the Jedi temple and whatnot... But other times I think there's more of a gray area which makes you think if this character is a Sith or just a Dark Jedi or not |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 16:45:10 GMT -5
Well her being a Jedi would depend on her belief's. And they are certainly not any from the Jedi ways. I just classify her as a sith. Same as Maul and savage. Even Kenobi said Maul and savage were sith as well. In Revival he said "There sith and we need to find them fast" when talking to the bounty hunter. I think sometimes Sith and Jedi are black and white: if you're "evil", have red eyes, and/or use Darkside powers, you're a Sith. And then Jedi characteristics are pretty obvious like living in the Jedi temple and whatnot... But other times I think there's more of a gray area which makes you think if this character is a Sith or just a Dark Jedi or not It's hard to decipher. But I think there trying to get around the rule of two without making it obvious. We have Sidious, Dooku, Savage (or did), Maul, Ventress and etc. What are the odds there "not sith". Even Kenobi had said in Revival that Maul and Savage were as already said above. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 17:14:16 GMT -5
How old do you think Dooku is right before he dies in Revenge of the sith, I was thinking 700 hundreds?
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Post by bane on May 29, 2013 17:41:23 GMT -5
All Sith are not assassin's, far from it....... And Centre as has those emotions, I admit, but she doesn't utilize them in combat. If she did, Sidious, would never have let her develope so far. Pu-lease Are you seriously saying that VENTRESS does not use her emotions in combat? Sidious had Dooku try to kill her BECAUSE of how powerful she was getting. She uses them somewhat, I admit. Not enough, though, to characterize her as a truly powerful Sith. That's the point I was trying to make. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 29, 2013 17:42:49 GMT -5
How old do you think Dooku is right before he dies in Revenge of the sith, I was thinking 700 hundreds? ... No... More like 50-60.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 17:48:51 GMT -5
How old do you think Dooku is right before he dies in Revenge of the sith, I was thinking 700 hundreds? ... No... More like 50-60.. He has to be older. Dooku was once Yoda's apprentice when Yoda was probably 200 hundred or so years old. And being Yoda was 900 years old in episode 6 when he died. that has to make Dooku much older by at least 700 years or so. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 29, 2013 17:52:00 GMT -5
... No... More like 50-60.. He has to be older. Dooku was once Yoda's apprentice when Yoda was probably 200 hundred or so years old. And being Yoda was 900 years old in episode 6 when he died. that has to make Dooku much older by at least 700 years or so. No, he was Yoda's apprentice when Yoda was in his late 800s. Dooku is a normal human so he ages the same (aging may be affected by Force) |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 17:55:37 GMT -5
He has to be older. Dooku was once Yoda's apprentice when Yoda was probably 200 hundred or so years old. And being Yoda was 900 years old in episode 6 when he died. that has to make Dooku much older by at least 700 years or so. No, he was Yoda's apprentice when Yoda was in his late 800s. Dooku is a normal human so he ages the same (aging may be affected by Force) O I thought all Jedi lived to be old. |
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Post by Namialus on May 29, 2013 19:30:42 GMT -5
Are you seriously saying that VENTRESS does not use her emotions in combat? Sidious had Dooku try to kill her BECAUSE of how powerful she was getting. She uses them somewhat, I admit. Not enough, though, to characterize her as a truly powerful Sith. That's the point I was trying to make. If anything, she uses them more than Dooku or Sidious. Sith are only Sith because they are part of the Two, who have gained all their secrets. |
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Post by bane on May 29, 2013 19:32:53 GMT -5
She uses them somewhat, I admit. Not enough, though, to characterize her as a truly powerful Sith. That's the point I was trying to make. If anything, she uses them more than Dooku or Sidious. Sith are only Sith because they are part of the Two, who have gained all their secrets. We'll have to agree to disagree. |
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Post by Scruffy the Clone (Scruffy) on May 29, 2013 20:45:21 GMT -5
There are two Sith. Sidious and Dooku.
Ventress has the qualifications, but let's face it: She can't be Sith, because of the
RULE.
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TWO.
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Post by bane on May 29, 2013 20:51:59 GMT -5
There are two Sith. Sidious and Dooku. Ventress has the qualifications, but let's face it: She can't be Sith, because of the RULE. OF. TWO. I still don't think she's qualified. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 20:54:10 GMT -5
They don't follow the rule of two. It is just a bunch of bullcrap. Ventress is no different then sidious and dooku. She is the apprentice of dooku. She is the third sith.
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Post by Scruffy the Clone (Scruffy) on May 29, 2013 20:55:39 GMT -5
They don't follow the rule of two. It is just a bunch of bullcrap. Ventress is no different then sidious and dooku. She is the apprentice of dooku. She is the third sith. Then why were Sidious and Maul at each others' throats? ANSWER: RULE. OF. TWO. |
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