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Post by Newan on May 4, 2020 10:13:48 GMT -5
Time for one last discussion....
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Post by Kenbo on May 4, 2020 10:18:30 GMT -5
It's really not what I wanted at all. Bad Batch was whatever I didn't really care. Walkabout was the worst arc of the show for me no cap. Siege started out so strong but then it didn't go how I would've liked. I'll say 7 I don't want to go lower than that. Good things sprinkled throughout and animation was top notch. But by no means the best season or anything if you ask me
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Post by Newan on May 4, 2020 10:18:52 GMT -5
Honestly.... I loved that we got new content, having a new episode for the last few months to look forward too was great. Not exactly the same as when I was younger and still in middle school but still it was fun. And tbh I really don’t think this is the actual “end” I think at some point, could be awhile though, we will get more stories that were left unfinished. Maybe they purposely choose some oddball episodes so they would have some attractive stuff to show later?
Imagine a bonus season with say Bane/ Boba arc, Utapau (cause it’s already basically done similar to Bad Batch), and another arc. I have a feeling they don’t want to do son of Dathomir or dark disciple if their resources are limited, plus they probably don’t want to back track to Maul.
But for this season... well idk Bad Batch was some fairly classic clone wars content tbh. It’s the middle arc that’s just appalling. The finale was great but would have meant more if we got everything.
Tbh Sacrifice has the best ending of any arc and was honestly an amazing ending for the show when it was cut early.
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Post by Kenbo on May 4, 2020 10:57:44 GMT -5
I'm sort of seeing this season as just supplemental material to show how the three survived order 66. I also think Sacrifice worked really well as an end to the show even though it was sort of a makeshift finale. Like you can just feel like the events of ROTS are about to happen after it. We've basically gotten 3 series finales now and of the three Sacrifice is the best for me. However that final shot of the tree cannot come close to the one with the helmet lol
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 4, 2020 13:50:54 GMT -5
Well, once again this season carried the tradition of seesawing quality. First arc was overlong, but not half bad, second was just... a waste of time, let's leave it at that and the third was, to quote Krennic, on the verge of greatness, it was *this* close. First couple episodes will go down as possibly the best, right up there with Lawless and Sacrifice, but then it just sort of sputters to a hollow, rushed end that keeps the scope too small. I mean, I don't care what Dave says about Rex and Ahsoka being supposedly the main characters of the show (which they weren't completely if we're honest), this was meant to expand upon other characters, other Jedi and absolutely nothing is shown. It just feels like we've been shortchanged. Really hope we can get a sequel show, or hell another, final final season to give us something more.
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Post by Kenbo on May 4, 2020 14:29:32 GMT -5
I think they should've marketed this differently. Instead of making it the "final season" just turn them into specials. Work on the unfinished episodes from time to time and gradually release them together as mini movies. The Siege arc easily works as a "movie". It's intention can be to show the fates of Ahsoka and Rex instead of being a series finale. Then we can get Utapau or Bounty Hunter or whatever arcs as specials later and it doesn't really make that much difference if they're not in chronological order
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Post by Star on May 4, 2020 16:51:23 GMT -5
This season largely feels weird due to lots of arcs remaining untold, but it was ultimately better than getting nothing. I give it an 8/10, but it would probably be a 9 if not for the Walkabout arc.
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Post by zuma on May 4, 2020 19:25:32 GMT -5
I'm between an 8 and a 9. Bad Batch was fine, but overly long. The Martez arc (that's what I'm calling it since we already have an Ahsoka arc) was bad.
But....I don't really give a damn because Siege of Mandalore was great from start to finish. All four episode are some of the best the show has done and Phantom Apprentice is the best period. It beat Wrong Jedi, it beat Lawless, it beat Carnage of Krell, Sacrifice, all of them. That arc pulls the whole season up by leaps.
But yeah, hopefully this won't be the last time we see Rex and co. in this version.
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Post by Star on May 4, 2020 19:52:57 GMT -5
I'm between an 8 and a 9. Bad Batch was fine, but overly long. The Martez arc (that's what I'm calling it since we already have an Ahsoka arc) was bad. But....I don't really give a damn because Siege of Mandalore was great from start to finish. All four episode are some of the best the show has done and Phantom Apprentice is the best period. It beat Wrong Jedi, it beat Lawless, it beat Carnage of Krell, Sacrifice, all of them. That arc pulls the whole season up by leaps. But yeah, hopefully this won't be the last time we see Rex and co. in this version. I'm inclined to agree that The Phantom Apprentice might be my favorite episode of TCW. I'll have to go through my ratings again to decide. |
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Post by Potato on May 5, 2020 11:10:23 GMT -5
I'm between an 8 and a 9. Bad Batch was fine, but overly long. The Martez arc (that's what I'm calling it since we already have an Ahsoka arc) was bad. But....I don't really give a damn because Siege of Mandalore was great from start to finish. All four episode are some of the best the show has done and Phantom Apprentice is the best period. It beat Wrong Jedi, it beat Lawless, it beat Carnage of Krell, Sacrifice, all of them. That arc pulls the whole season up by leaps. But yeah, hopefully this won't be the last time we see Rex and co. in this version. I agree with just about everything you said (although I think Old Friends Not Forgotten is just about as good as Phantom Apprentice). The rest of the season was kind of meh because one third of it was that lame sisters arc, but Siege of Mandalore was so great that it elevated the new season to another level. |
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Post by Potato on May 5, 2020 11:11:08 GMT -5
Hopefully we'll get some animated movies down the line that adapt Son of Dathomir, Dark Disciple, and the Bounty Hunter arc. And they can finally finish Crystal Crisis while they're at it.
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Post by Newan on May 5, 2020 11:50:33 GMT -5
I did want to see some perspectives of Anakin tbh... the Kenobi cameo was wonderful in Phantom Apprentice.
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Post by Kenbo on May 7, 2020 16:03:46 GMT -5
I keep thinking about it and honestly I'm upset the series ended this way... I don't like how it's no longer a standalone piece. It has to be connected with outside content (ROTS). Like imagine if you didn't know anything else about Star Wars and haven't seen all or any of the movies and only watched the show. The end would make you think wtf? It would be like if George had started the saga with TPM but then made ANH come after AOTC completely skipping ROTS.. It feels like there is just a huge chunk of stuff missing in TCW. Now of course we basically know all the info because of the movies but like I said, the show can't stand alone now
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Post by zuma on May 10, 2020 14:09:31 GMT -5
So, how do you think the 3 new arcs fit in with everything.
Ahsoka's Walkabout takes place before Bad Batch, and obviously Siege's spot is self-explanatory.
Bad Batch and Siege finish the timeline, but I feel like Walkabout might take place before some of the season 6 stuff and closer to Ahsoka's arc in season 5, since the end of Walkabout has to take place several months before Siege.
I can't think of any story elements that really force a specific order for those episodes, so I think it's really just up to what makes the most sense for the atmosphere and thematically, and for that I feel like Walkabout is something that would take place fairly early after Ahsoka's split from the Jedi.
Clovis arc
Maul arc
Ahsoka's arc
Ahsoka's Walkabout
Order 66 arc
Disappeared
Yoda arc
Bad Batch
Siege of Mandalore.
Would that make sense?
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Post by Spidyyr on May 29, 2020 7:14:51 GMT -5
Well, once again this season carried the tradition of seesawing quality. First arc was overlong, but not half bad, second was just... a waste of time, let's leave it at that and the third was, to quote Krennic, on the verge of greatness, it was *this* close. First couple episodes will go down as possibly the best, right up there with Lawless and Sacrifice, but then it just sort of sputters to a hollow, rushed end that keeps the scope too small. I mean, I don't care what Dave says about Rex and Ahsoka being supposedly the main characters of the show (which they weren't completely if we're honest), this was meant to expand upon other characters, other Jedi and absolutely nothing is shown. It just feels like we've been shortchanged. Really hope we can get a sequel show, or hell another, final final season to give us something more. Anakin is the main character. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 29, 2020 7:16:10 GMT -5
I think they should've marketed this differently. Instead of making it the "final season" just turn them into specials. Work on the unfinished episodes from time to time and gradually release them together as mini movies. The Siege arc easily works as a "movie". It's intention can be to show the fates of Ahsoka and Rex instead of being a series finale. Then we can get Utapau or Bounty Hunter or whatever arcs as specials later and it doesn't really make that much difference if they're not in chronological order That would be a really smart business decision. Don’t want to know how many people cut their Disney+ subscription this month and aren’t coming back. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 29, 2020 7:18:33 GMT -5
So, how do you think the 3 new arcs fit in with everything. Ahsoka's Walkabout takes place before Bad Batch, and obviously Siege's spot is self-explanatory. Bad Batch and Siege finish the timeline, but I feel like Walkabout might take place before some of the season 6 stuff and closer to Ahsoka's arc in season 5, since the end of Walkabout has to take place several months before Siege. I can't think of any story elements that really force a specific order for those episodes, so I think it's really just up to what makes the most sense for the atmosphere and thematically, and for that I feel like Walkabout is something that would take place fairly early after Ahsoka's split from the Jedi. Clovis arc Maul arc Ahsoka's arc Ahsoka's Walkabout Order 66 arc Disappeared Yoda arc Bad Batch Siege of Mandalore. Would that make sense? I think the ending for the Martez arc means it has to take place pretty close to the end. With Maul having regained his power. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 19, 2020 17:53:50 GMT -5
Imagine if they showed Obi-Wan moving into his Tatooine hut or something at the end. We could've seen everyone looking sad and shit off into the distance bruh I'm still salty this was not an ending.
How you gonna end a show without 👏 the 👏 main 👏 characters 👏? Wish people would stop worshipping Dave Filoni like he's some God. People out here willing to sacrifice their first child for Dave to make some other mediocre ass show 😤
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