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Post by Newan on Mar 13, 2020 13:17:46 GMT -5
Figured I’d make a thread to discuss the arc. Give any final thoughts and judge it’s place in the series as a whole.
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Post by Newan on Mar 13, 2020 13:22:29 GMT -5
My final ranking for episodes would be.
The Bad Batch - 8/10
A Distant Echo - 7/10
On the Wings of Keeredaks - 5/10
Unfinished Business - 9/10
29/40 score, it’s 72%. Think I’ll still vote an 8 though just for some personal enjoyment reasons that the show has new episodes to begin with. I feel like the arc definitely has a place in the series but it’s not the best choice for a final 12 episode stand. The story of Echo doesn’t NEED to be told tbh. However Anaxes is a very important planet and thus a good battle plot line although it needed some more depth imo.
The Bad Batch themselves are an interesting concept although I feel they were a bit less interesting as time went on, they are pretty static characters. Crosshair became a bit less of an asshole over time and Hunter was always more dynamic.
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Post by Newan on Mar 13, 2020 13:24:35 GMT -5
I do like seeing Windu in a battle tbh, he’s almost always just seen in the background or at ceremonial events like Crisis on Naboo.
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Post by Newan on Mar 13, 2020 13:25:43 GMT -5
This arc is no Umbara though and doesn’t have the same impact as it’s almost trying to be a continuation of the Umbara/ Fives arcs with a Rex centric story.
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 13, 2020 16:34:49 GMT -5
Gotta go with 7. It was okay but the plot wasn't too interesting to me. As I've said before the Batch didn't really do anything for me and I didn't care that much about Echo either. Also we never saw Echo being told Fives was dead... lol
Highlight for me was pretty much just Anakin because I love seeing TCW Anakin. Anaxes battle wasn't shown in a cool way either unlike battles such as Ryloth, Geonosis, Umbara, etc. I know it's because the Batch was the main focus but still
Already said this but yeah it's a decent arc that would've been fine earlier on but not great as the show's last episodes. Also I don't like how they're suddenly in the outer rim sieges without any exposition
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 13, 2020 16:48:14 GMT -5
I think this was also more simplistic of a premise than TCW usually does. The show is not some super deep brain stimulating thing but most arcs make you think at least a little imo. Or they present some unique concepts or compelling characters
Mortis - Going deep into Force/prophecy lore with many things left ambiguous/open to interpretation
Citadel - Seeing the characters go through an unpredictable gauntlet
Mon Cala - Seeing a kid that is heir to the throne struggle with accepting his new responsibilities
Slave - I mean just the slavery focus itself was pretty different lol
Onderon - Following an insurgency's mission to stage a coup
I think these are some of the show's better arcs when it comes to premises. What was Bad Batch about? Four episodes of Anakin and some defective clones shooting droids lol. Umbara was also largely a battle centric arc but there we saw the clones struggle against Krell's (a more compelling villain unlike Trench) oppression which was something interesting
Idk man. Still wish we got Utapau. Like I'm so salty about that. If I had to choose between this and Utapau, there'd be no hesitation at all
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 13, 2020 18:09:06 GMT -5
Gonna watch later  |
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Post by Newan on Mar 14, 2020 10:21:32 GMT -5
Echo with the AZ droid was kind of a nice touch to Fives...
Also anyone notice how Kenobi kind of has a little grey in his beard?
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Post by Star on Mar 14, 2020 14:47:05 GMT -5
Echo with the AZ droid was kind of a nice touch to Fives... Also anyone notice how Kenobi kind of has a little grey in his beard? I noticed that in the most recent episode. It's so subtle, I wasn't sure if I imagined it. They're doing a great job animating the characters this season. Kenobi has a slightly more aged and depressed look to him that matches what we see in ROTS. |
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Post by Star on Mar 14, 2020 16:37:32 GMT -5
The Bad Batch - 8/10
A Distant Echo - 8/10
On the Wings of Keeradaks - 6/10
Unfinished Business - 8/10
All the episodes, except for the third, we're pretty equal in quality for me. I really liked the action of the first, despite not much narrative. The second episode was the best in developing the characters, but the action was a little repetitive. The finale had a good mix of both, but I was hoping for a little something more. Not quite enough was done with Echo's development post-rescue and the Bad Batch really didn't grow on me that much.
Personally, A Distant Echo might be my favorite of the arc, but it's pretty close. I agree with what's already been said about the arc as a whole. It fits into the series, but it's jarring to include among the final 12 episodes.
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Post by Star on Mar 14, 2020 16:39:15 GMT -5
My scores equate to 7.5/10, but I'll lean toward an 8. Despite the arc lacking in the narrative department, animation, cinematography, etc were great.
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Post by zuma on Mar 20, 2020 6:22:05 GMT -5
I'm somewhere between a 7 and an 8. I guess I could go with a 7 if we say the 9s and 10s are stuff like Umbara, Maul and Ahsoka, because this arc is still probably two steps behind those. But I clicked 8 first and I can't change it, so I'm sticking with my 8  |
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Post by zuma on Mar 20, 2020 6:22:59 GMT -5
Nevermind, I could change it. I'll give it the 7 then, to keep the poll close.
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Post by Newan on Mar 20, 2020 7:13:40 GMT -5
I'm somewhere between a 7 and an 8. I guess I could go with a 7 if we say the 9s and 10s are stuff like Umbara, Maul and Ahsoka, because this arc is still probably two steps behind those. But I clicked 8 first and I can't change it, so I'm sticking with my 8 Yeah we have a list from our rewatch of rankings but those arcs you mentioned are the cream of the crop, actually I think Ahsoka scored lower mainly cause I absolutely tanked the second last episode due to being kind of pointless Mortis and Citadel scores high too. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 27, 2020 23:59:34 GMT -5
7/10
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Very simplistic. Wouldn’t mind at all if we had gotten them in 2014 with forty episodes left but we only got eight. And I’m not too hopeful about the next four...
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Post by Spidyyr on May 28, 2020 6:02:35 GMT -5
This arc is no Umbara though and doesn’t have the same impact as it’s almost trying to be a continuation of the Umbara/ Fives arcs with a Rex centric story. Definitely the weakest arc to feature Domino Squad members. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 28, 2020 6:11:02 GMT -5
There’s no too ways around it: the Bad Batch are not very good characters. They’re okay visually and have some good action sequences but they feel a lot less real.
They don’t ruin the arc or anything. In fact they kinda stop being the main focus as the arc goes on. But try as they might, there just isn’t much substance to this arc.
Makes me wish more we had Utupau (or Son of Dathomir) instead. Even in the story reals, Anakin and Obi-Wan’s campfire conversation was more real than anything we saw here.
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Post by Spidyyr on May 28, 2020 12:09:39 GMT -5
Also I never have been a fan of Echo being alive. His death wasn’t perfect but I think it says a lot about the realities of war. It was sudden and there wasn’t time to mourn and it’s an incredibly powerful moment in the show.
The whole using him to predict Republic strategy doesn’t make any sense to me. He was a special forces trooper, not a general. Even then I don’t think it would make sense. If they could do this you think they’d be gunning for every high ranking clone so they could plug them into this.
It’s just honestly a dumb idea. And what does Echo being alive even add? Maybe it would have had more impact if this aired in 2014 as intended and we didn’t get the spoiler that he’s alive.
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