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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 16, 2020 22:45:21 GMT -5
January 17 - 23, 2020
Episode 12: A Princess on Lothal Episode 13: The Protector of Concord Dawn Episode 14: Legends of the Lasat Episode 15: The Call
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 16, 2020 22:45:33 GMT -5
Almost forgot
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 17, 2020 7:04:10 GMT -5
Princess
Kind of boring tbh. It's really weird how Ezra has met basically every main character. Makes the galaxy seem really small. I think Leia was portrayed well though. But she is only 16 or so here right as she is the same age as Ezra? She is way more mature than him that's for sure. Also they seriously had Kanan cut off the walker's legs with his saber? If it was that easy Luke could've just done that in ESB
Protectors of Concord Dawn
Kinda meh. I feel like they could've done more with it. Also Wolffe and Gregor where
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 17, 2020 7:05:06 GMT -5
Lasat
Kind of a weird one. Doesn't really make sense that Zeb's rifle of all things would magically lead them to an uncharted planet... I don't like how every episode is basically filler but if they had to tell this story, it should've been in multiple episodes. First part would be them finding the Lasats and then maybe some artifact (that's not just Zeb's weapon..) that would help lead them to Lira San. Also this would've been an easy Zeb character development arc. Have him contemplate staying with his people and helping them rebuild or stay with his friends. But nah they just had him drop them off and then it's back to business as usual. And once again we don't even see the actual planet just like Mustafar. This show could be so much more but it's always just rushed and always misses opportunities. It's so lame bruh
The Call
Another weird one. Filoni with his infinite genius has come up with... Space whales that can go into hyperspace... ok. Damn we've been on a bad episode streak for quite a while now
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Post by Newan on Jan 17, 2020 12:33:26 GMT -5
Ahh I was hoping The Honorable Ones was in this week, I like that one
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Post by Star on Jan 17, 2020 12:45:39 GMT -5
Princess Kind of boring tbh. It's really weird how Ezra has met basically every main character. Makes the galaxy seem really small. I think Leia was portrayed well though. But she is only 16 or so here right as she is the same age as Ezra? She is way more mature than him that's for sure. Also they seriously had Kanan cut off the walker's legs with his saber? If it was that easy Luke could've just done that in ESB Protectors of Concord Dawn Kinda meh. I feel like they could've done more with it. Also Wolffe and Gregor where Not sure if this is a canon reason, but this is the first design of an AT-AT for the Empire, so it was weak to lightsaber cuts at its legs. However, the next version (the OT model) improved upon this weakness, hence why Luke didn't do it.
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 17, 2020 14:44:18 GMT -5
Princess Kind of boring tbh. It's really weird how Ezra has met basically every main character. Makes the galaxy seem really small. I think Leia was portrayed well though. But she is only 16 or so here right as she is the same age as Ezra? She is way more mature than him that's for sure. Also they seriously had Kanan cut off the walker's legs with his saber? If it was that easy Luke could've just done that in ESB Protectors of Concord Dawn Kinda meh. I feel like they could've done more with it. Also Wolffe and Gregor where Not sure if this is a canon reason, but this is the first design of an AT-AT for the Empire, so it was weak to lightsaber cuts at its legs. However, the next version (the OT model) improved upon this weakness, hence why Luke didn't do it. I guess. I'm a little confused about the AT-AT stuff though like at first I thought they were first used at Hoth and everything before was just a predecessor model/prototype (hence the AT-ACTs in Rogue One) but the ones in Rebels are still called AT-ATs specifically I believe. Idk
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Post by Newan on Jan 17, 2020 21:22:31 GMT -5
Not sure if this is a canon reason, but this is the first design of an AT-AT for the Empire, so it was weak to lightsaber cuts at its legs. However, the next version (the OT model) improved upon this weakness, hence why Luke didn't do it. I guess. I'm a little confused about the AT-AT stuff though like at first I thought they were first used at Hoth and everything before was just a predecessor model/prototype (hence the AT-ACTs in Rogue One) but the ones in Rebels are still called AT-ATs specifically I believe. Idk Rebels is only like 4 years before Hoth at this point
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2020 3:41:16 GMT -5
A Princess on Lothal is pretty good, I honestly liked the simplicity of it. It’s just three old ships but even that is huge for the Rebels, it really puts their struggle into a new light when we see how poorly equipped they are, meanwhile the empire still doesn’t really take a wider rebellion seriously and is too spread out across the galaxy to deal with it directly.
I have no issues with Leia showing up in this episode, if anyone from the OT she makes the most sense. We already have Bail established and they established Bails Rebels roots before ROTS, Leia was technically a member of the imperial senate by the time of episode 4. It makes sense we would see her taking a direct approach from a young age, this perfectly lines up with her character in the OT and ST imo. Leia and Lando are the only two of the main OT that really cameo. Kenobi yeah I guess but that’s just Ezra. Han, Chewie and Luke don’t make appearances.
Btw i always get pretty nostalgic rewatching the part where Kanan chops the leg and that little clone wars theme plays, I think it plays when Anakin does something similar at some point in TCW.
Also this episode instantly gains more from me just because it’s using ships from KOTOR.... I’m giving this one an 8/10 even though it’s probably more like a 7... I just like seeing KOTOR stuff come back into canon. Sad that Rebels respects KOTOR more than TCW did, all they tried to do was fucking change Korriban name, maybe without George holding him back DF could just do more.
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2020 4:14:41 GMT -5
The Protector of Concord Dawn is alright, Concord Dawn itself looks beautiful, it’s also where Jango was from I’m pretty sure. This is the episode where Sabine’s arc for the rest of the show starts to actually move in the right direction. Seeing the Mandalorian fighters was cool, we didn’t see them in action much in TCW, guess that would have been more in the Son of Dathomir arc or the Siege.
Honestly I don’t mind episodes like this one or the previous episode, it just gives us glimpses of other aspects of the galaxy that’s not so focused on the ghost crew itself. This doesn’t exactly feel like filler but it’s just a decent 20 minute story imo. I have a theory on how Dave has the Mandalorian storyline sorted in his head between the end of Rebels and the Mandalorian tv show but I won’t spoil season 4 and stuff of Rebels for spider.
Fenn Rau was also kind of cool and I like that they brought Mandalorians training clones back into canon, I think that was in those old Clone book series. I’m going to say 7/10 though for this one, I’ll admit I was kind of bored at times, I don’t think I felt like that on first watch but idk I guess it’s cause I knew this time they weren’t gonna really get into a fight with all the Mandalorians or that Sabine wasn’t gonna kill him in the duel. It’s a good setup for the rest of The Mandalorian stuff for this show at least.
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2020 4:45:05 GMT -5
Legends of the Lasat is another decent episode, but this one does feel a bit more like filler. Wasn’t super boring though. It does have one of the best original soundtracks in the show though and probably up there for the franchise in general imo. This time Hondo felt a bit unnecessary but his character at least wasn’t used in a bad way so that’s nice.
There’s not a whole lot to say about this episode, the whole prophecy stuff was kind of cool, I like Kanans comment on how the force has many names. We see it with Jedi, Nightsisters, Lasat, the species from The Disappeared. That’s what this episode kind of felt like to me, The Disappeared without all the Indiana Jones stuff.
I’ll say 6/10, decent development for Zeb. Funny we actually get another Zeb centric episode next week and that’s also a good one. Zeb surprisingly has some not terrible episodes. He just looks like a one dimensional character tbh
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2020 5:16:13 GMT -5
The Call is weird, it’s definitely filler (actually it has relevance later) but the concept of space creatures is kind of interesting. We first saw it in ESB obviously with the Space Slug and Mynocks, the slug has to eat something right? So I guess it maybe feeds on stuff like the Pergil. We also see it in one of the first episodes of TCW during the Malevolence arc.
There’s not a whole lot to say about this episode, the mining guild boss was a very cool alien concept. He looks liked an aquatic/ insect head but he had fur. Not sure we seen one like that before.
I’m convinced Ezra has a special and rare force gift though at this point, he has the ability to establish deep connections with animals, we will see it again in season 3 and especially season 4. Cal Kestis and Quinlan Vos both have the rare gift of Force Psychometry... Bastila and Yoda have the gift of Battle Meditation. Although Yoda is so old it might not be a natural gift and something it took life times to learn. But yeah certain force users just have special abilities, usually once in a generation those kinds of people show up. Plo-Koon had some ability to control weather....
Anyways I’ll say 6/10, I didn’t hate the episode but it did feel like filler. I don’t mind filler as much though in this season cause we got 22 episodes instead of 16 and unlike TCW if we get filler we’re not stuck on the same filler for 2-4 weeks, it makes it more tolerable imo
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Post by Newan on Jan 25, 2020 23:17:51 GMT -5
Probably gonna watch the next weeks episodes and save my thoughts
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 26, 2020 0:06:55 GMT -5
Probably gonna watch the next weeks episodes and save my thoughts Forgot to put Week 10 up
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Post by Newan on Jan 26, 2020 0:18:44 GMT -5
Probably gonna watch the next weeks episodes and save my thoughts Forgot to put Week 10 up Np lol, I just like to watch on my nights off
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Post by Star on Jan 29, 2020 15:54:55 GMT -5
It's very simplistic, but I don't have any issues with A Princess on Lothal. The small scope actually makes it better I think. They also handle Leia pretty well thankfully, and it's strange to think she's the same age as Ezra.
I like that Ryder sticks around in this episode instead of disappearing for no reason. Having him contribute with his knowledge of the gravity locks was pretty cool.
There's not much else to say about this one. It's pretty much the benchmark for what I'd call an "average" episode. 7/10.
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Post by Star on Jan 29, 2020 16:11:30 GMT -5
The Protector of Concord Dawn is a fine episode, but I feel like it could've been more interesting if we saw the intended conclusions of the Mandalore stories in TCW. I don't want to fault this episode for that, but rather just mention it.
I like the idea of the rebel fleet turning to Mandalorians, and Fenn Rau comes across as an interesting character. His personal history with Kanan especially makes him come to life. That whole dynamic is probably my favorite part of the episode. Even though she shares the spotlight with Kanan, Sabine works well here, too. As this story arc unfolds over the rest of the series, it really helps make Sabine much more intriguing.
Parts of this episode were a little drawn out though, and the ending was also slightly underwhelming. It's one of those episodes that is decent, but not really worth rewatching multiple times. I'll go with 6.5/10.
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Post by Star on Jan 31, 2020 15:29:08 GMT -5
It's not a necessary story to tell, but Legends of the Lasat adds some neat stuff to the mystic side of Star Wars. The prophecy is a little simplistic and Hondo doesn't really need to be here, but things could've been worse.
The highlight of this episode for me is definitely the sequence before the star cluster. Maybe the aesthetic adds to my enjoyment, but the music that plays here is fantastic. It honestly feels like it belongs in a live action film or something higher quality than this series. Seeing the TIE Fighters disintegrate was a cool shot, too. I don't like Kallus failing again here, but at least it made sense for him to give up the chase.
Zeb's bow rifle having an alternate purpose introduces another neat twist, but I don't recall if it holds any relevance past this episode. Overall, there are some cool bits, but the whole thing isn't the most exciting. 6/10.
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Post by Star on Jan 31, 2020 15:40:50 GMT -5
When I first watched it years ago, The Call wasn't an episode I really enjoyed. Upon this rewatch, it hasn't improved. Like the previous episode, the plot itself isn't that interesting. Instead, there's just a few neat moments that build on the Star Wars lore. The Purrgil exemplify this perfectly. Conceptually, they're pretty cool, but I don't need a whole episode centered around them.
However, I appreciate Ezra's Force connection with animals being shown throughout the episode. I think it's a good way to expand his character and make him more interesting. I also found Ezra very tolerable -- or dare I say likable -- here. Maybe it's because he came across as competent while not being annoying. Whatever it was, I believe it becomes more common for his character in S3 and S4.
Knowing what happens later in the show, I get why this episode exists. I just wish the plot was more exciting. This is definitely one of the weaker episodes for me. 5/10.
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 9, 2020 22:21:29 GMT -5
Princess Kind of boring tbh. It's really weird how Ezra has met basically every main character. Makes the galaxy seem really small. I think Leia was portrayed well though. But she is only 16 or so here right as she is the same age as Ezra? She is way more mature than him that's for sure. Also they seriously had Kanan cut off the walker's legs with his saber? If it was that easy Luke could've just done that in ESB Protectors of Concord Dawn Kinda meh. I feel like they could've done more with it. Also Wolffe and Gregor where Not sure if this is a canon reason, but this is the first design of an AT-AT for the Empire, so it was weak to lightsaber cuts at its legs. However, the next version (the OT model) improved upon this weakness, hence why Luke didn't do it. Also Luke just wasn’t that skilled in the force yet. I doubt he could have pulled off something like that at the time.
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 9, 2020 22:26:09 GMT -5
Thought Princess on Lothal was pretty good. Was a bit worried with how they’d handle Leia but I thought they did a great job. Sounded too old but the right tone of voice and I think her level of maturity makes sense here.
I’m glad they kept on Ezra dealing with his parents. And his interactions with Leia were welcome.
These last few episodes have been less simplistic than what’s form before so that gives me hope for the future. 7/10
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 9, 2020 22:34:41 GMT -5
Oh shit are they about to make Sabine interesting?
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 9, 2020 22:58:17 GMT -5
Was really digging Protector of Concord Dawn honestly but the ending was a bit lame.
Finally got to see another side of Sabine. This is kinda what I hoped for in Blood Sisters. Fenn Rau was pretty cool. I liked his character quite a bit. And there were a few cool lines in this one.
Sabine challenging him to a duel to the death was something I definitely didn’t expect. Legit that felt really tense. But knowing Disney, there really was no satisfying way they could end that. Was fine with her blowing up ships but I feel like she would kill him. Or at least it would take some convincing from Kanan before making that jump.
But she’s the little girls role model and I guess she couldn’t do anything overtly immoral. I felt like this was gonna be one of the best but it’s merely good. 6/10.
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 20, 2020 22:37:00 GMT -5
Legends of the Lasat is a weird episode. There’s a sequence I really like, where the visuals and music standout. But the story isn’t strong enough to grant it they gravity it thinks it has. I definitely get what it was going for but it feels both cheesy and rushed. Like I’m not sure if I’m supposed to take it seriously or not.
Hondo was okay here. Lowkey wish they’d make him straight up betray them without the caveat or saving them later. Like I don’t want him straight up evil but he’s too nice here. Hard to take him seriously.
5/10.
Also where the fuck is Ahsoka?
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Post by Spidyyr on Feb 20, 2020 22:58:47 GMT -5
Agreed with what was said here. The Call is cool in concept, with some nice ideas, but that doesn’t make it enjoyable.
There many isn’t much to say about a lot of these episodes. Episode starts with some random problem that we know will be forgotten about in twenty minutes. Rebels is a lot more anthology than I expected, as very rarely does one episode flow to the next. That’s fine for TCW but it’s weird here since it’s always the same characters.
Eh, 5/10.
Not one I’d watch again.
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