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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2019 11:52:46 GMT -5
Thread to discuss chapter 5 released on December 6
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2019 11:58:14 GMT -5
Um... That was kinda bad..... The maintenance lady was annoying, the kid wasn't much better. Seeing Tatooine was awesome I guess we haven't seen it in live action in about 15 years... But that was pretty much all I liked about the episode
Felt like I was watching a fan film tbh. I hate having to say this about nearly everything Disney has been putting out... Wtf. But seriously acting was kinda bad and writing was not impressive at all. Just kind of a shitty episode overall imo and once again nothing really happened. And the last shot with Mando returning to the body was weird not sure what's going on with that...
At least there won't be as many new baby Yoda memes since he barely had any screen time
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 6, 2019 14:56:58 GMT -5
I think this episode makes it fairly apparent, Dave probably shouldn't be in charge of Star Wars. I don't know why, but ideas just seem a bit... lame. Also Mando gets no real character development here, half the major cast kicks it and they weren't even very interesting to begin with. Thankfully, Dave's love of nostalgic references at least helps things visually. Seeing Tatooine, the pit droids, Mos Eisley and Tusken Raiders makes a guy like me all gooey inside. Sort of prepares us with how the Obi-Wan show will look Might say this is the weakest one yet. I'm really hoping season 2 doesn't coast on references and good visuals and actually is about something right now...
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2019 15:56:51 GMT -5
I didn't realize the lady is played by Princess Carolyn's voice actor from Bojack Horseman lol
Anyway that opening dogfight was really cheesy... Its exactly like what fucking Rebels would do, open with some lame dogfight lol. And the bounty hunter's scream when his ship exploded was ridiculous. Also "that's my line"... A little cringe honestly. But apparently the little kids people on reddit thought it was hilarious so I got downvoted to hell when I said it wasn't that funny lmao
Also why the fuck did they all just wait there for an entire day? I feel like the assassin could've easily gotten away. She had the high ground and there was a lot of distance between them giving her a head start. Maybe I'm missing something
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 6, 2019 16:18:24 GMT -5
I think Tatooine is the endgame. I'm guessing the guy at the end was Moff Gideon. From the trailers it looks like he and the Deathtroopers are on Tatooine. Guess he gets sent to recapture baby Yoda.
So we got 4 total planets I guess
Nevarro Alavar 7 Sorgan Tatooine
No other locations appear to be seen in the trailers at least but there could be maybe one more. I wouldn't mind staying on Tatooine for the last 3 episodes
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Post by Newan on Dec 6, 2019 16:50:13 GMT -5
Oh yeah I meant to make the thread Wednesday but got side tracked building a new desk lol
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Post by Pinda on Dec 7, 2019 9:43:47 GMT -5
I think this episode makes it fairly apparent, Dave probably shouldn't be in charge of Star Wars. I don't know why, but ideas just seem a bit... lame. Also Mando gets no real character development here, half the major cast kicks it and they weren't even very interesting to begin with. Thankfully, Dave's love of nostalgic references at least helps things visually. Seeing Tatooine, the pit droids, Mos Eisley and Tusken Raiders makes a guy like me all gooey inside. Sort of prepares us with how the Obi-Wan show will look Might say this is the weakest one yet. I'm really hoping season 2 doesn't coast on references and good visuals and actually is about something right now... Filoni only seems good when he gets the ideas from Lucas. He is better at executing these ideas than Lucas is in my opinion, but his own ideas are kind of lame (see Rebels).
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Post by Pinda on Dec 7, 2019 9:44:13 GMT -5
I officially don't like this series now. This episodes drops it below the 6/10.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 7, 2019 12:16:27 GMT -5
I officially don't like this series now. This episodes drops it below the 6/10. I think it's still decent and enjoyable for what it is but people are hyping it up way too much like it's some gift from god or something lol...
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Post by Pinda on Dec 7, 2019 13:14:55 GMT -5
I officially don't like this series now. This episodes drops it below the 6/10. I think it's still decent and enjoyable for what it is but people are hyping it up way too much like it's some gift from god or something lol... I don't hate it. It is not terrible. But I don't find it to be particularly enjoyable either. There is just a total lack of main characters, character development, dialogue or an overarching story. Even Rebels had all of those, even though they were bad.
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Post by Pinda on Dec 7, 2019 13:15:55 GMT -5
And they shoehorned that high ground line in so r/PrequelMemes would give it some more free advertisement.
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Post by Pinda on Dec 7, 2019 13:16:56 GMT -5
By the way, I would still prefer Filoni being on charge of Star Wars over the current leadership. At least I feel like Filoni wants to tell good stories and loves Star Wars, even if his more recent creations have been mediocre.
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Post by Newan on Dec 8, 2019 1:27:43 GMT -5
I think this episode was pretty enjoyable, I like the show for what it is. There is somewhat of an over arching story but it’s been hidden these past few episodes imo. Obviously something has to happen with the kid this season, some solution has to come to pass. Also I want to see the Deathtroopers and the Breaking Bad guy So the guy at the end has to be Boba Fett right? The boots make the exact same sounds as his entrance in ESB. There is also no reason not to show his body/ face if it wasn’t someone we would recognize. There’s only one guy in this timeline with that armor that would be relevant to us...
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Post by Newan on Dec 8, 2019 1:32:24 GMT -5
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Post by Newan on Dec 8, 2019 1:35:23 GMT -5
ew.com/tv/2019/12/06/the-mandalorian-episode-5-boba-fett/Yeah Boba could be a bit of a stretch.... but just coincidence that they used the boot sound, Tatooine (last place we saw Boba), and the fact that Mando has thrown off like a dozen hunters at this point? Time to call in the real fire power...
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Post by Newan on Dec 8, 2019 4:26:30 GMT -5
Honestly though I don’t see how this is much different then TCW, it has the same kind of format of self contained stories... it’s disappointing there’s so few episodes. But I’d rather watch 4 episodes of the Mandalorian fucking around with Baby Yoda for a month long then 4 episodes of being stuck on a meh clone wars arc.
Rebels does indeed pull off Story a bit better cause it’s all connected, but Mandalorian seems to just being doing Clone Wars stand-alone format or 2 part arcs at best like episode 1/2. And I don’t think Mandos character development is that bad, it’s there but it’s subtle.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 8, 2019 13:21:38 GMT -5
ew.com/tv/2019/12/06/the-mandalorian-episode-5-boba-fett/Yeah Boba could be a bit of a stretch.... but just coincidence that they used the boot sound, Tatooine (last place we saw Boba), and the fact that Mando has thrown off like a dozen hunters at this point? Time to call in the real fire power... I'm 90% sure it's Moff Gideon (chicken man). Three episodes left and he still hasn't shown up. Someone as high profile as Boba would be better saved for season 2 I would say. And if they teased him it would more likely be in the finale Honestly though I don’t see how this is much different then TCW, it has the same kind of format of self contained stories... it’s disappointing there’s so few episodes. But I’d rather watch 4 episodes of the Mandalorian fucking around with Baby Yoda for a month long then 4 episodes of being stuck on a meh clone wars arc. Rebels does indeed pull off Story a bit better cause it’s all connected, but Mandalorian seems to just being doing Clone Wars stand-alone format or 2 part arcs at best like episode 1/2. And I don’t think Mandos character development is that bad, it’s there but it’s subtle. It's more like Rebels to me because of its simplicity
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Post by Newan on Dec 8, 2019 13:29:57 GMT -5
ew.com/tv/2019/12/06/the-mandalorian-episode-5-boba-fett/Yeah Boba could be a bit of a stretch.... but just coincidence that they used the boot sound, Tatooine (last place we saw Boba), and the fact that Mando has thrown off like a dozen hunters at this point? Time to call in the real fire power... I'm 90% sure it's Moff Gideon (chicken man). Three episodes left and he still hasn't shown up. Someone as high profile as Boba would be better saved for season 2 I would say. And if they teased him it would more likely be in the finale Honestly though I don’t see how this is much different then TCW, it has the same kind of format of self contained stories... it’s disappointing there’s so few episodes. But I’d rather watch 4 episodes of the Mandalorian fucking around with Baby Yoda for a month long then 4 episodes of being stuck on a meh clone wars arc. Rebels does indeed pull off Story a bit better cause it’s all connected, but Mandalorian seems to just being doing Clone Wars stand-alone format or 2 part arcs at best like episode 1/2. And I don’t think Mandos character development is that bad, it’s there but it’s subtle. It's more like Rebels to me because of its simplicity TCW didn’t have an over arching story though unless you count the war itself... Rebels has more variables to its story cause it’s all connected and uses 6 characters as an ensemble cast thst all have their own personal stories and episodes. In many ways I actually think Rebels story is more complex than that of TCW. The longest running clone wars storyline was Mandalore... still that was only like 8-10 episodes, and then brought in some elements from the Nightsisters episodes as well. As for your Moff Gideon point, I think that’s possible. But why would a Moff be out in the dune sea? And Boba makes more sense for that rival description. Unless it’s a different Bounty hunter but it would be weird for them to bring in a “rival” we don’t know anything about.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 8, 2019 18:13:26 GMT -5
I'm 90% sure it's Moff Gideon (chicken man). Three episodes left and he still hasn't shown up. Someone as high profile as Boba would be better saved for season 2 I would say. And if they teased him it would more likely be in the finale It's more like Rebels to me because of its simplicity TCW didn’t have an over arching story though unless you count the war itself... Rebels has more variables to its story cause it’s all connected and uses 6 characters as an ensemble cast thst all have their own personal stories and episodes. In many ways I actually think Rebels story is more complex than that of TCW. The longest running clone wars storyline was Mandalore... still that was only like 8-10 episodes, and then brought in some elements from the Nightsisters episodes as well. As for your Moff Gideon point, I think that’s possible. But why would a Moff be out in the dune sea? And Boba makes more sense for that rival description. Unless it’s a different Bounty hunter but it would be weird for them to bring in a “rival” we don’t know anything about. The rival part is definitely strange I'm not sure what to make of that. But I think Moff Gideon wont be like the Moffs we've seen such as Tarkin. I think he actually gets his hands dirty and does stuff lol I really do want to see boba in this show but I think they should wait tbh... Personally I would love it if Boba was this show's equivalent of Deathstroke from Arrow. It would be really cool if he was a main villain for a season but i doubt they would do that lol. I'm not sure why he would be the villain anyway but it wouldn't be impossible to write
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Post by Newan on Dec 9, 2019 11:37:15 GMT -5
TCW didn’t have an over arching story though unless you count the war itself... Rebels has more variables to its story cause it’s all connected and uses 6 characters as an ensemble cast thst all have their own personal stories and episodes. In many ways I actually think Rebels story is more complex than that of TCW. The longest running clone wars storyline was Mandalore... still that was only like 8-10 episodes, and then brought in some elements from the Nightsisters episodes as well. As for your Moff Gideon point, I think that’s possible. But why would a Moff be out in the dune sea? And Boba makes more sense for that rival description. Unless it’s a different Bounty hunter but it would be weird for them to bring in a “rival” we don’t know anything about. The rival part is definitely strange I'm not sure what to make of that. But I think Moff Gideon wont be like the Moffs we've seen such as Tarkin. I think he actually gets his hands dirty and does stuff lol I really do want to see boba in this show but I think they should wait tbh... Personally I would love it if Boba was this show's equivalent of Deathstroke from Arrow. It would be really cool if he was a main villain for a season but i doubt they would do that lol. I'm not sure why he would be the villain anyway but it wouldn't be impossible to write DF is doing a lot of writing for this show though, Dave is kind of a fan service god He brought Maul back and used Thrawn as his main villain in Rebels,
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Post by Newan on Dec 9, 2019 11:37:35 GMT -5
So with that said, Boba seems likely to me.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 9, 2019 12:13:46 GMT -5
The rival part is definitely strange I'm not sure what to make of that. But I think Moff Gideon wont be like the Moffs we've seen such as Tarkin. I think he actually gets his hands dirty and does stuff lol I really do want to see boba in this show but I think they should wait tbh... Personally I would love it if Boba was this show's equivalent of Deathstroke from Arrow. It would be really cool if he was a main villain for a season but i doubt they would do that lol. I'm not sure why he would be the villain anyway but it wouldn't be impossible to write DF is doing a lot of writing for this show though, Dave is kind of a fan service god He brought Maul back and used Thrawn as his main villain in Rebels, Yeah not showing Boba at some point would be a huge wasted opportunity tbh. Also I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying he's dead... I guess you could also ask why everyone thinks he's alive but I think he is a character that is just "too cool" to be dead lol. And if I remember correctly I think George said he wanted him to be alive or something. Either way I don't think it's been explicitly stated he's dead so it kinda annoys me when people say that whenever the Boba topic comes up
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Post by Newan on Dec 9, 2019 13:21:39 GMT -5
DF is doing a lot of writing for this show though, Dave is kind of a fan service god He brought Maul back and used Thrawn as his main villain in Rebels, Yeah not showing Boba at some point would be a huge wasted opportunity tbh. Also I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying he's dead... I guess you could also ask why everyone thinks he's alive but I think he is a character that is just "too cool" to be dead lol. And if I remember correctly I think George said he wanted him to be alive or something. Either way I don't think it's been explicitly stated he's dead so it kinda annoys me when people say that whenever the Boba topic comes up Lucas said it was a mistake the way his story ended in the OT. He didn’t realize just how popular Boba was. But he’s not dead, there’s no way.
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Post by Star on Dec 16, 2019 1:39:18 GMT -5
I thought this episode was pretty enjoyable. The dynamic of Mando and the other hunter was pretty fun, and having the setting of Mos Eisley really added to everything. I was a little surprised that the lady was killed by the rookie hunter, but I’m glad they went that direction versus another fight.
Boba seems like a good contender for who that is at the end, unless it’s a new character who has some history with Mando. I’m not sure they’d introduce Boba into the show this early, but I can see it working if it ends up being him.
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Post by Star on Dec 16, 2019 1:44:47 GMT -5
Even though these recent episodes feel like side adventures, I still really like them. It’s kind of simplistic and sort of serves as more lore building. This doesn’t mean I think the show deserves the praise some fans are excessively bestowing upon it, but I’m still content with what we’ve seen so far.
I also agree with Newan that in some ways, these episodes aren’t that different conceptually than how TCW was set up. TCW involved many characters we already knew, but honestly half the show didn’t really connect to the “main plot” of the war itself. Currently, it seems like the same can be said for this series, since only 2-3 have really focused on a larger story rather than neat standalones. This show is also more like a Western, so I kind of enjoy the random adventures of Mando.
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 21, 2019 5:30:27 GMT -5
lame
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 21, 2019 5:33:27 GMT -5
Kenbo this felt like something from Underworld Season 2
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 21, 2019 5:37:27 GMT -5
To be clear this show isn’t bad, but idk I was expecting more.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 21, 2019 9:16:45 GMT -5
Kenbo this felt like something from Underworld Season 2 Cringe
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 21, 2019 14:38:10 GMT -5
Reddit fucking loves this episode.
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