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Post by Newan on Nov 20, 2019 12:20:14 GMT -5
Discussion thread for chapter 3 of The Mandalorian to be released Friday November 22nd.
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Post by Newan on Nov 20, 2019 12:21:01 GMT -5
I think a lot is expected of this episode. Think we’re gonna see most of the other major characters revealed.
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Post by Newan on Nov 20, 2019 12:28:12 GMT -5
Probably a good chance this episode could be a longer run time as well. IMDb says 30 mins but it says that for every episode past episode 2 so I’m assuming that’s a generic placeholder.
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Post by Potato on Nov 22, 2019 9:39:54 GMT -5
This episode was the best piece of Star Wars material to come out since Disney bought Star Wars.
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Post by Potato on Nov 22, 2019 9:40:05 GMT -5
This show is great so far.
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Post by Potato on Nov 22, 2019 10:08:02 GMT -5
So do you think Yoda or Obi-Wan is going to save the Mando in the flashbacks? Yoda would probably be a bit too on the nose and I'm not sure they have the budget for that, so I'm guessing it'll be Obi-Wan.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 22, 2019 12:47:40 GMT -5
So do you think Yoda or Obi-Wan is going to save the Mando in the flashbacks? Yoda would probably be a bit too on the nose and I'm not sure they have the budget for that, so I'm guessing it'll be Obi-Wan. I've seen that speculation it will be insane if they actually do it. Imagine though Obi cuts up that super battle droid and opens the hatch. The sun glare is covering his face so you can't really see Ewan McGregor but you can hear him say "Hello there." Bruh
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 22, 2019 12:52:07 GMT -5
Well anyway this was good. But tbh I don't think this is working... The story is advancing so slowly each episode contributes so little to the main plot whatever it is. Still no Cara or Gideon. I'm so worried whatever they're trying to do is going to end up being rushed because it feels like there isn't enough time...
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 22, 2019 12:53:57 GMT -5
Lmao they got his fucking ice cream maker
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 22, 2019 12:58:48 GMT -5
Looks like Jon Favreau played the Mandalorian Heavy. Also I was wondering about their jet packs lol. Wonder if we'll ever see him wear one. I didn't expect him to get the full Beskar suit in this episode though. Thought they might spread it out and the full set comes in the finale
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Post by Pinda on Nov 22, 2019 13:51:42 GMT -5
Definitely an improvement over last episode... but 8 30 minute episodes is really going to be way too short. 8 episodes is already on the low side... but the short runtime makes it even shorter.
Also I guess I was right about the Mandalorian's flashback being about the Clone Wars. It was actually nice to see a live action super battle droid again.
but what is the deal with these Mandalorians? They seem very unlike the actual Mandalorians we saw in TCW. They seem more like a cult. Why can they not take off their helmets now? Is this something I missed because I didn't watch Rebels? I know the Mandalorians were in that.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 22, 2019 13:52:18 GMT -5
So do you think Yoda or Obi-Wan is going to save the Mando in the flashbacks? Yoda would probably be a bit too on the nose and I'm not sure they have the budget for that, so I'm guessing it'll be Obi-Wan. I've seen that speculation it will be insane if they actually do it. Imagine though Obi cuts up that super battle droid and opens the hatch. The sun glare is covering his face so you can't really see Ewan McGregor but you can hear him say "Hello there." Bruh I mean, they might do that to promote the Obi-Wan series.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 22, 2019 13:53:57 GMT -5
So do you think Yoda or Obi-Wan is going to save the Mando in the flashbacks? Yoda would probably be a bit too on the nose and I'm not sure they have the budget for that, so I'm guessing it'll be Obi-Wan. Would be kind of weird though. The Mandalorian seemed pretty surprised about the force when the baby used it. That is already kind of weird because clearly he was alive during the clone Wars so he must know about the Jedi. But it would make no sense at all if he had personally witnessed a Jedi in action before and is still surprised by the force.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 22, 2019 13:57:06 GMT -5
Well anyway this was good. But tbh I don't think this is working... The story is advancing so slowly each episode contributes so little to the main plot whatever it is. Still no Cara or Gideon. I'm so worried whatever they're trying to do is going to end up being rushed because it feels like there isn't enough time... There still isn't even a main plot. We have no idea where the story will go from here. The Mandalorian escaped with the child. Great. Story over. Or is he going to find out what the Empire wanted with the child or where he came from? We don't know yet. We are almost halfway into the season and there is no main story yet. also the lack of (good) dialogue and facial expressions is worrying too. They are going for the OT Boba Fett vibes, I get it... but that does not really work nearly as well when you are doing it with the main character... and the most important side character being a baby doesn't help...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 22, 2019 15:48:25 GMT -5
Really enjoyed this one. The visuals just continue to satisfy. Seeing a live action super battle droid made me weirdly nostalgic and gooey inside That said, I do kinda agree with Pinda. This show needs a bit more gusto injected into its script and characters. I really wouldn't have minded if they made the Mando slightly eccentric instead of playing him straight as a man-of-few-words badass type.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 22, 2019 15:50:26 GMT -5
Definitely an improvement over last episode... but 8 30 minute episodes is really going to be way too short. 8 episodes is already on the low side... but the short runtime makes it even shorter. Also I guess I was right about the Mandalorian's flashback being about the Clone Wars. It was actually nice to see a live action super battle droid again. but what is the deal with these Mandalorians? They seem very unlike the actual Mandalorians we saw in TCW. They seem more like a cult. Why can they not take off their helmets now? Is this something I missed because I didn't watch Rebels? I know the Mandalorians were in that. No, you are right. The Mandalorians here are played a bit differently to what we saw in TCW and Rebels. Maybe they're a distant offshoot? Perhaps they were banished when Satine's government came to power and they've been hanging around this side of the galaxy ever since. Makes for something of an explanation towards their different culture.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 22, 2019 16:51:24 GMT -5
Well anyway this was good. But tbh I don't think this is working... The story is advancing so slowly each episode contributes so little to the main plot whatever it is. Still no Cara or Gideon. I'm so worried whatever they're trying to do is going to end up being rushed because it feels like there isn't enough time... There still isn't even a main plot. We have no idea where the story will go from here. The Mandalorian escaped with the child. Great. Story over. Or is he going to find out what the Empire wanted with the child or where he came from? We don't know yet. We are almost halfway into the season and there is no main story yet. also the lack of (good) dialogue and facial expressions is worrying too. They are going for the OT Boba Fett vibes, I get it... but that does not really work nearly as well when you are doing it with the main character... and the most important side character being a baby doesn't help... Everyone is somehow swept away by this show... I mean I enjoy it a lot. It looks and feels like Star Wars so I'll take it. All the western tropes are really fun as well. But I am a fan of good storytelling and in that regard, the show falls flat on its face. So far every week has been baby Yoda does cute stuff and Not Boba Fett does cool stuff (in that order). And people are eating this shit up... It feels like this show was made for memes and merch. I was annoyed by how the subreddit is just trash memes and no discussions but I guess it's the creators' fault for having very little dialogue so every line you do hear becomes a meme and there's nothing with actual substance to talk about. Tbh this isn't what I was hoping to get out of a live action Star Wars series. They got a big budget so they made it look cool. But they forgot to do any meaningful writing...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 22, 2019 17:25:56 GMT -5
There still isn't even a main plot. We have no idea where the story will go from here. The Mandalorian escaped with the child. Great. Story over. Or is he going to find out what the Empire wanted with the child or where he came from? We don't know yet. We are almost halfway into the season and there is no main story yet. also the lack of (good) dialogue and facial expressions is worrying too. They are going for the OT Boba Fett vibes, I get it... but that does not really work nearly as well when you are doing it with the main character... and the most important side character being a baby doesn't help... Everyone is somehow swept away by this show... I mean I enjoy it a lot. It looks and feels like Star Wars so I'll take it. All the western tropes are really fun as well. But I am a fan of good storytelling and in that regard, the show falls flat on its face. So far every week has been baby Yoda does cute stuff and Not Boba Fett does cool stuff (in that order). And people are eating this shit up... It feels like this show was made for memes and merch. I was annoyed by how the subreddit is just trash memes and no discussions but I guess it's the creators' fault for having very little dialogue so every line you do hear becomes a meme and there's nothing with actual substance to talk about. Tbh this isn't what I was hoping to get out of a live action Star Wars series. They got a big budget so they made it look cool. But they forgot to do any meaningful writing... Hopefully that changes next season. I like to think this is just a bump they iron out later down the line. If they want baby Yoda to hinge the story on, fine by me, but it would really help if they actually got stuck in and made the story and script a bit less... purposeless. I get you want to leave viewers pondering what happens next, but you can do that whilst bringing more to the story table
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Post by Pinda on Nov 22, 2019 18:01:12 GMT -5
There still isn't even a main plot. We have no idea where the story will go from here. The Mandalorian escaped with the child. Great. Story over. Or is he going to find out what the Empire wanted with the child or where he came from? We don't know yet. We are almost halfway into the season and there is no main story yet. also the lack of (good) dialogue and facial expressions is worrying too. They are going for the OT Boba Fett vibes, I get it... but that does not really work nearly as well when you are doing it with the main character... and the most important side character being a baby doesn't help... Everyone is somehow swept away by this show... I mean I enjoy it a lot. It looks and feels like Star Wars so I'll take it. All the western tropes are really fun as well. But I am a fan of good storytelling and in that regard, the show falls flat on its face. So far every week has been baby Yoda does cute stuff and Not Boba Fett does cool stuff (in that order). And people are eating this shit up... It feels like this show was made for memes and merch. I was annoyed by how the subreddit is just trash memes and no discussions but I guess it's the creators' fault for having very little dialogue so every line you do hear becomes a meme and there's nothing with actual substance to talk about. Tbh this isn't what I was hoping to get out of a live action Star Wars series. They got a big budget so they made it look cool. But they forgot to do any meaningful writing... Yeah I agree. The Internet is way too positive about this. I mean it is definitely not bad, but it is not exactly good either. They could definitely still turn it into something good... but they will have to up the pace soon... I feel like people already made up their mind about liking this show before it aired. Everyone was really hyped about it ever since it got announce. also, I think many people are just happy about this show because it is not as bad as the sequel trilogy. But I agree. This is not what live action Star Wars should have been like. This would have been a nice series to air ALONGSIDE other live action Star Wars series, as something a bit different and experimental. But for a first series I think this is very risky and not at all fulfilling its potential.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 22, 2019 18:05:58 GMT -5
But yeah, the popularity of this show is really weird to me. I just don't see why people are acting like this is one of the best series they have seen in years. There have only been 3 episodes, and not a whole lot has happened. There is not exactly a mind blowing story or interesting cast of characters. The visuals are good, absolutely, but if that is what you need to carry a show it is not a good show at all. It is not even the best Star Wars content we have had under Disney either in my opinion. So far I prefer Solo and Rogue One over this.
Don't get me wrong. I find it entertaining enough to keep watching. This is not Rebels. And it is not nonsensical and ridiculous, like the sequels. But it is not really that special. That could change, after all there is still 5 episodes left. But so far it is mediocre at best in my opinion. And I absolutely don't get the extreme hype surrounding this show. If this did not have the Star Wars brand on it, and the baby did not look like Yoda no one would care for this show.
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Post by Newan on Nov 23, 2019 1:24:10 GMT -5
So do you think Yoda or Obi-Wan is going to save the Mando in the flashbacks? Yoda would probably be a bit too on the nose and I'm not sure they have the budget for that, so I'm guessing it'll be Obi-Wan. I think it will be Kenobi. Or maybe.... even Anakin. Hayden has been appearing at Star Wars conventions a lot lately.
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Post by Newan on Nov 23, 2019 1:38:29 GMT -5
This episode was great, I’m really not bothered by the approach the Mandalorians are taking. This is more-so how they SHOULD be. Mandalorians were never apart of the movies, besides the armor appearance of Boba that sparked the concept. Still everything TCW and Rebels took for Mandalorians was based of the content in the EU, mostly KOTOR at that. The Mandalorians were sort of a cult with many different clans that would unite under one banner in times of struggle if a suitable Mandalore was found and accepted by the clans. The only way you become a Mandalorians is to be born into a clan or adopted into one and pass a series of trials. Jango in the old EU was adopted during the Jedi vs Mando wars before TPM. Although one thing that I’m less familiar with is the philosophy of never removing the helmet, even Mandos in the old republic did that. Could be a tradition for this particular clan though.
Honestly I’m not trying to hate on TCW or Rebels Mandalore arcs but I was never a super big fan of them, the whole pacifist movements and the real Mandalorians being terrorists and what not didn’t fly with me. I was pretty let down when I heard the series finale would be about Mandalore. I wanted Outer Rim Sieges into Coruscant into Order 66 type of finale arc... Dave worked on this project though so there must be a lore related explanation for the Mandalorians here that fits with the animated shows.
Anyways as for the rest of the episode, the action was absolutely fantastic and the western vibes continue to satisfy. I do want to see some new planets now though, or rather maybe some already established planets in live action. I don’t think we will be going back to any of the 3 planets already seen though.
The budget continues to impress me, really enjoyable all around imo.
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Post by Newan on Nov 23, 2019 1:41:44 GMT -5
Honestly I do actually love the lone gunfighter trope we got going. It’s very unique from most other Star Wars where there’s no force users or lightsabers.
I’m sure there will be a time and place for some deeper stories. Kenobi show will literally be 90% Tatooine I’d imagine. Although I’m really not expecting a series for that, more of a mini series that will fully tell a story in one season.
Cassian show will probably be a mix of this with a bit more story.
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Post by Newan on Nov 23, 2019 14:36:49 GMT -5
I just rewatched Revenge in TCW rewatch and I want to point out the tracking thing Ventress has when she takes the Savage contract.... isn’t this basically the same thing we see in the Mandalorian?
There’s no fucking way Ventress found Savage thst fast otherwise. Maul purposely kept him out of the hologram.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 23, 2019 21:24:03 GMT -5
The subreddit makes me lose brain cells. Every post is a shitty unfunny baby Yoda meme and every comment is "This is the way". I can't even complain about it there because for some reason my posts aren't showing up lol. Total bullshit how I try to post relevant discussion topics but they don't go through while everyone's absolute garbage meme spam gets posted just fine. Swear everyone is either physically or mentally a 12 year old there
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Post by Newan on Nov 24, 2019 0:25:31 GMT -5
The subreddit makes me lose brain cells. Every post is a shitty unfunny baby Yoda meme and every comment is "This is the way". I can't even complain about it there because for some reason my posts aren't showing up lol. Total bullshit how I try to post relevant discussion topics but they don't go through while everyone's absolute garbage meme spam gets posted just fine. Swear everyone is either physically or mentally a 12 year old there Idk the Jedi Council Forums probably have better discussion? I kind of want to try and go back there and see what’s up, I remember it was pretty funny that one day with the French guy or whatever. But I love the reddit memes, literally all over reddit last week people were posting “I have spoken” and now it’s “This is the way”. Not even on Star Wars subreddits, I saw it on Runescape and League of Legends.... but everyone seems to understand. This show is super popular.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 24, 2019 5:27:17 GMT -5
The subreddit makes me lose brain cells. Every post is a shitty unfunny baby Yoda meme and every comment is "This is the way". I can't even complain about it there because for some reason my posts aren't showing up lol. Total bullshit how I try to post relevant discussion topics but they don't go through while everyone's absolute garbage meme spam gets posted just fine. Swear everyone is either physically or mentally a 12 year old there Prequelmemes are cool because the Prequels were never meant to be memes. The problem with the Mandalorian is that those "I have spoken" and "This is the way" lines were probably specifically made to be memes and give Disney free advertising.
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Post by Newan on Nov 24, 2019 7:01:48 GMT -5
The subreddit makes me lose brain cells. Every post is a shitty unfunny baby Yoda meme and every comment is "This is the way". I can't even complain about it there because for some reason my posts aren't showing up lol. Total bullshit how I try to post relevant discussion topics but they don't go through while everyone's absolute garbage meme spam gets posted just fine. Swear everyone is either physically or mentally a 12 year old there Prequelmemes are cool because the Prequels were never meant to be memes. The problem with the Mandalorian is that those "I have spoken" and "This is the way" lines were probably specifically made to be memes and give Disney free advertising. Prequel memes works though because of the terrible dialogue in the prequels.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 24, 2019 7:15:11 GMT -5
Prequelmemes are cool because the Prequels were never meant to be memes. The problem with the Mandalorian is that those "I have spoken" and "This is the way" lines were probably specifically made to be memes and give Disney free advertising. Prequel memes works though because of the terrible dialogue in the prequels. The limited amount Mandalorian dialogue is far worse though.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 24, 2019 8:18:40 GMT -5
Prequel memes works though because of the terrible dialogue in the prequels. The limited amount Mandalorian dialogue is far worse though. I guess when there's such little dialogue what few lines you hear automatically become memes
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