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Post by Newan on Dec 16, 2013 21:52:46 GMT -5
Conclusion?? HA HA HA this is only the beginning just wait for the sequels.... .... Peter Jackson has no right to make sequels. Literally. He literally doesn't have the rights. The Tolkiens aren't selling any more. Just wait till Disney buys it... |
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Post by Star on Dec 16, 2013 21:54:13 GMT -5
.... Peter Jackson has no right to make sequels. Literally. He literally doesn't have the rights. The Tolkiens aren't selling any more. Just wait till Disney buys it... That'd never happen. And if it did... Middle-Earth would become a joke. |
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Post by Star on Dec 16, 2013 21:56:23 GMT -5
He's done making Middle-Earth movies too. He actually originally wasn't going to direct The Hobbit. That's good. LOTR was great and beautiful and stunning, but he's just gotten rather egotistical with The Hobbit. Nah, they're all fantastic. People are just too hard on prequels and sequels. If things had been reversed with the releasing of LOTR and the Hobbit, LOTR would still be loved but not as immortal as it is now. The Hobbit would also be more loved. Besides, all six films will be masterpieces IMO. |
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Post by Namialus on Dec 17, 2013 15:27:47 GMT -5
.... Peter Jackson has no right to make sequels. Literally. He literally doesn't have the rights. The Tolkiens aren't selling any more. Just wait till Disney buys it... They literally can't.. and no, New Line Cinema ain't selling. |
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Post by Namialus on Dec 17, 2013 15:29:24 GMT -5
That's good. LOTR was great and beautiful and stunning, but he's just gotten rather egotistical with The Hobbit. Nah, they're all fantastic. People are just too hard on prequels and sequels. If things had been reversed with the releasing of LOTR and the Hobbit, LOTR would still be loved but not as immortal as it is now. The Hobbit would also be more loved. Besides, all six films will be masterpieces IMO. They're good but that doesn't mean they're good. People like purists are hard on the films because to them, Jackson is being disrespectful - he's taking someone else's lifework and making it his. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 17, 2013 15:45:49 GMT -5
I'm going to see "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" this thursday and i'm freaking pumped.
I'm currently reading the book and i'm on Chapter 14.
Btw, i don't care every that is different in the film then in the book. The first Hobbit film is a masterpiece and i'm pretty sure the coming two will be as well. People need to understand that the films are "Re-imagening" and not an "Adaption"
Also to make it easy for every one. Consider the books "Tolkien Universe" and the movies "Jackson Universe" Problem solved.
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Post by Namialus on Dec 17, 2013 16:01:41 GMT -5
I'm going to see "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" this thursday and i'm freaking pumped. I'm currently reading the book and i'm on Chapter 14. Btw, i don't care every that is different in the film then in the book. The first Hobbit film is a masterpiece and i'm pretty sure the coming two will be as well. People need to understand that the films are "Re-imagening" and not an "Adaption" Also to make it easy for every one. Consider the books "Tolkien Universe" and the movies "Jackson Universe" Problem solved. It's true that the films are good, and yes, some changes are fine, and I enjoy them. But to some older fans, purists and such, Jackson has no right to take someone else's work and "ruin" it. For example, firebird, who is a purist said that, around the time before Fellowship came out and it was still being created and stuff, fans of Tolkien's novels started a petition asking Jackson to please stay true to the books, and you know what he did? He completely ignored it. He just didn't care. Is that okay? No, it's disrespectful. Tolkien died years before, and therefore he can't oversee the films, so Jackson should be a little more respectful. But nope, nothing. And then we got pussy Frodo. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 17, 2013 16:07:11 GMT -5
I'm going to see "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" this thursday and i'm freaking pumped. I'm currently reading the book and i'm on Chapter 14. Btw, i don't care every that is different in the film then in the book. The first Hobbit film is a masterpiece and i'm pretty sure the coming two will be as well. People need to understand that the films are "Re-imagening" and not an "Adaption" Also to make it easy for every one. Consider the books "Tolkien Universe" and the movies "Jackson Universe" Problem solved. It's true that the films are good, and yes, some changes are fine, and I enjoy them. But to some older fans, purists and such, Jackson has no right to take someone else's work and "ruin" it. For example, firebird, who is a purist said that, around the time before Fellowship came out and it was still being created and stuff, fans of Tolkien's novels started a petition asking Jackson to please stay true to the books, and you know what he did? He completely ignored it. He just didn't care. Is that okay? No, it's disrespectful. Tolkien died years before, and therefore he can't oversee the films, so Jackson should be a little more respectful. But nope, nothing. And then we got pussy Frodo. I'm not gonna argue here because i understand purists. But i myself am just easily pleased and accept things very quickly. That thing about Jackson i have never heard of but i tend to ignore things like that unless there is official proof. Don't get me wrong, i understand the purists, in every way. It's just that when liberities are taking so expertly well like in LOTR and The Hobbit i will not complain. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Dec 17, 2013 16:12:22 GMT -5
Review ( Page timed-out so my previous review was lost.  So here is a summary ) : The second instalment of the Hobbit, although superb, still falls a bit short.The movie start where the first film left off, following the adventure of Bilbo Baggins and the dwarves to the Lonely Mountain, which they must arrive at by Durin's Day. This is accompanied by a subplot revolving around Gandalf and Radagast unravelling the mystery of Dol Guldur and the sinister Necormacer. Unfortunately, if you are, like me, a big fan of the Hobbit book, you may think that Peter Jackson is delving into the realm of fan fiction a little too much. Although I liked the scenes added in, by creating a film based on a book and then altering it , it shows a lack of respect to the original author. The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug is visually stunning but no longer boasts the 48fps like its predecessor did. However some may see this as an improvement. Overall the film was enjoyable and looks great but falls a bit short in some areas. I'll give the Hobbit: DOS a 8.5/10 |
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Post by Namialus on Dec 17, 2013 16:14:30 GMT -5
It's true that the films are good, and yes, some changes are fine, and I enjoy them. But to some older fans, purists and such, Jackson has no right to take someone else's work and "ruin" it. For example, firebird, who is a purist said that, around the time before Fellowship came out and it was still being created and stuff, fans of Tolkien's novels started a petition asking Jackson to please stay true to the books, and you know what he did? He completely ignored it. He just didn't care. Is that okay? No, it's disrespectful. Tolkien died years before, and therefore he can't oversee the films, so Jackson should be a little more respectful. But nope, nothing. And then we got pussy Frodo. I'm not gonna argue here because i understand purists. But i myself am just easily pleased and accept things very quickly. That thing about Jackson i have never heard of but i tend to ignore things like that unless there is official proof. Don't get me wrong, i understand the purists, in every way. It's just that when liberities are taking so expertly well like in LOTR and The Hobbit i will not complain. Firebird actually signed the petition over ten years ago, so I'd count that as proof enough. It's just that word isn't going to get around because people are too busy worshipping Jackson. Liberties? |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 17, 2013 17:17:04 GMT -5
I'm not gonna argue here because i understand purists. But i myself am just easily pleased and accept things very quickly. That thing about Jackson i have never heard of but i tend to ignore things like that unless there is official proof. Don't get me wrong, i understand the purists, in every way. It's just that when liberities are taking so expertly well like in LOTR and The Hobbit i will not complain. Firebird actually signed the petition over ten years ago, so I'd count that as proof enough. It's just that word isn't going to get around because people are too busy worshipping Jackson. Liberties? liberties as in "liberties taken" wich means changing or adding stuff to the overall story. It is also called artistic license |
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 17, 2013 17:23:17 GMT -5
If you don't want them to make hobbit movies different from the books, you can just pretend they don't exist. It's not like they took away something you already like to make those movies...
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Post by Namialus on Dec 17, 2013 17:36:59 GMT -5
If you don't want them to make hobbit movies different from the books, you can just pretend they don't exist. It's not like they took away something you already like to make those movies... |
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Post by Namialus on Dec 17, 2013 18:11:25 GMT -5
This was my favourite scene from the film. Some guy posted it on YT.
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Post by Malgus on Dec 17, 2013 18:40:05 GMT -5
I liked The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smauge overall, but not the end. Keeping this spoiler free I'll just say I didn't like all the random shit the dwarves were trying to pull. It's obvious Peter Jackson just needed something really action packed to wrap up the film while still leaving enough for the 3rd part...
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Post by Star on Dec 17, 2013 19:51:59 GMT -5
This was my favourite scene from the film. Some guy posted it on YT. And here you are complaining about how different the movie was from the book... But that was an awesome scene.  |
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Post by Namialus on Dec 17, 2013 20:07:06 GMT -5
This was my favourite scene from the film. Some guy posted it on YT. And here you are complaining about how different the movie was from the book... But that was an awesome scene. I'm talking about the purists. I personally rather enjoyed the film. And this scene fits with the involvement of the White Council at Dol Guldur, so it's an okay change. A change I didn't like was the romance. Do you see? However, Jackson's ego is still quite large. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2013 20:44:46 GMT -5
I'm going to see "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" this thursday and i'm freaking pumped. I'm currently reading the book and i'm on Chapter 14. Btw, i don't care every that is different in the film then in the book. The first Hobbit film is a masterpiece and i'm pretty sure the coming two will be as well. People need to understand that the films are "Re-imagening" and not an "Adaption" Also to make it easy for every one. Consider the books "Tolkien Universe" and the movies "Jackson Universe" Problem solved. I agree. Books are very different than movies, you cant have the same stuff because it simply wont work in movie form. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2013 20:47:03 GMT -5
I am going to make my review now.
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I am going to make my review now. Ya I will have to make it later today because too much is going on here right now for me to make the video uninterrupted. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 16:20:11 GMT -5
We are fans of Middle earth and Star Wars. New movies are being made and we still aren't happy? The more the merrier for me, it's better than nothing. Let's be real here just about every movie leaves out some parts out from the book, no matter what series or trilogy.
I'll be seeing the Hobbit over Christmas break, which I'm syked about! I'm hoping it will be just as good as AUG and as Iver is doing, I'm reading the Hobbit over again.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 18, 2013 17:23:26 GMT -5
Review ( Page timed-out so my previous review was lost. So here is a summary ) : The second instalment of the Hobbit, although superb, still falls a bit short.The movie start where the first film left off, following the adventure of Bilbo Baggins and the dwarves to the Lonely Mountain, which they must arrive at by Durin's Day. This is accompanied by a subplot revolving around Gandalf and Radagast unravelling the mystery of Dol Guldur and the sinister Necormacer. Unfortunately, if you are, like me, a big fan of the Hobbit book, you may think that Peter Jackson is delving into the realm of fan fiction a little too much. Although I liked the scenes added in, by creating a film based on a book and then altering it , it shows a lack of respect to the original author. The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug is visually stunning but no longer boasts the 48fps like its predecessor did. However some may see this as an improvement. Overall the film was enjoyable and looks great but falls a bit short in some areas. I'll give the Hobbit: DOS a 8.5/10 They didn't get rid of the 48FPS I'm seeing it in 48FPS 3D tomorrow |
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Post by Star on Dec 28, 2013 5:10:08 GMT -5
So what date is the release date for There and Back Again? I've heard Dec. 17 but that's a Wednesday and usually films aren't released on Wednesdays... Is this the true date, or will it be a Friday like the 12?
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Post by Namialus on Dec 30, 2013 1:41:07 GMT -5
I rewatched this on Saturday night. It was better than the first viewing IMO but still, that romance.. I can't stand it. I wanted to puke, to the point where I just left to the washroom when Tauriel started healing Kili. Unimportant and gah.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 30, 2013 15:29:32 GMT -5
Next year we'll finally see The Battle of The Five Armies!  And knowing how Jackson can film a battlefield it's going to be truly amazing. |
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Post by Star on Dec 30, 2013 17:09:24 GMT -5
Next year we'll finally see The Battle of The Five Armies! And knowing how Jackson can film a battlefield it's going to be truly amazing. It will (hopefully, but I think it will  ) rival the sheer epicness of the Seige of Minas Tirith and Battle of Pelennor Fields! I had a vision when I was waiting for AUJ last summer. It was of an overcast sky with elves, dwarves, and orcs all clashing together and then a sight of Beorn hurling boulders at orcs! The camera angle would be going under flying spears and above the raging battle as it went to this. Then it would go past Beorn and you'd see Erebor swarming with orcs all over it while dwarves were defending it! I know this doesnt probably mean much to you, but that would be really cool to see! I just can't wait to see how the battle will play out! |
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Post by Star on Dec 30, 2013 17:11:47 GMT -5
I rewatched this on Saturday night. It was better than the first viewing IMO but still, that romance.. I can't stand it. I wanted to puke, to the point where I just left to the washroom when Tauriel started healing Kili. Unimportant and gah. I just came back from seeing it a second time now. And I liked it just as much as the first. And you can pick up on a lot of other things too that you missed in the first viewing. But I do admit, the barrel scene was a little less thrilling to me this time around (but still awesome). Mainly because I knew what was going to happen. But I really enjoyed seeing the Smaug parts again! |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 30, 2013 18:55:40 GMT -5
Next year we'll finally see The Battle of The Five Armies! And knowing how Jackson can film a battlefield it's going to be truly amazing. It will (hopefully, but I think it will ) rival the sheer epicness of the Seige of Minas Tirith and Battle of Pelennor Fields! I had a vision when I was waiting for AUJ last summer. It was of an overcast sky with elves, dwarves, and orcs all clashing together and then a sight of Beorn hurling boulders at orcs! The camera angle would be going under flying spears and above the raging battle as it went to this. Then it would go past Beorn and you'd see Erebor swarming with orcs all over it while dwarves were defending it! I know this doesnt probably mean much to you, but that would be really cool to see! I just can't wait to see how the battle will play out! I've read the book, i understand what you mean Those spear could also immediately serve as a 3D effect |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 7, 2014 15:24:23 GMT -5
I can't wait to see the inevitable Saruman, Galdriel and Radagast vs Sauron battle !
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Post by Potato on Jan 7, 2014 15:48:43 GMT -5
I can't wait to see the inevitable Saruman, Galdriel and Radagast vs Sauron battle ! Seeing Galadriel rip the walls of Dol Guldur apart is going to be awesome. |
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