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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 2, 2018 15:48:43 GMT -5
Here is the second week of the Star Wars: The Clone Wars Rewatch! In another string of strangely released episodes, we're gonna look back at the first ever episode of the series as well as two prequel episodes
August 3rd - 9th 2018
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 2, 2018 16:27:01 GMT -5
Don't really want to watch Clone Cadets tbh...
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 2, 2018 16:53:29 GMT -5
Don't really want to watch Clone Cadets tbh...  |
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Post by squiggy on Aug 2, 2018 18:03:58 GMT -5
Don't really want to watch Clone Cadets tbh... Shaak Ti has decided to allow you to change your answer one last time. |
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Post by Newan on Aug 2, 2018 18:51:04 GMT -5
I didn’t get around to watching these before my trip so I may have to skip watching this week and come back. Although I did recently watch clone cadets a few months ago
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 2, 2018 20:27:14 GMT -5
I'll probably watch these tonight.
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Post by Star on Aug 2, 2018 21:02:01 GMT -5
I watched Clone Cadets. I actually didn't like it as much as I remembered... I guess most of what I like about the S3 premiere came from ARC Troopers. It's fun to see Domino Squad's origins, but a lot of it feels rushed with how quickly they team up to pass. I also like 99, although some of his dialogue is a bit cliche. Definitely one of the weaker offerings of TCW. I'll give it a 5/10.
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Post by Star on Aug 2, 2018 21:18:11 GMT -5
I don't remember much about Supply Lines, so it should be interesting to rewatch that. From what I recall though, it wasn't anything special.
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 1:28:18 GMT -5
I think Clone Cadets fits the best when viewed as a prequel to "Rookies" or as table setting for "ARC Troopers." By itself, it's fine, if a bit generic. And not all of it makes that much sense. I understand why Hevy commits to the Dominoes and I buy that character change. But it always bugged me how everyone else seemed to be there by the end with little explanation. Hevy hadn't been the problem with the squad. They started out dysfunctional, Hevy changed, and suddenly they all worked as a team. As Star said, some of 99's dialogue was a bit cliche but idk, it works fine for what the episode is trying to pull off. And the bit of dramatic irony with the medal at the end is effective. This episode is paid off in many future episodes (going up to Season 6) but really it's just a prelude. It does what it set out to do and that makes it average IMO. So 5/10. On a side note, there's something funny about then using "Rookies" in the newsreel.  |
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Post by squiggy on Aug 3, 2018 10:34:48 GMT -5
Watching tonight  . Good old Friday night Clone Wars, back when’s the premieres used to hit CN on those nights, memories. |
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Post by Pinda on Aug 3, 2018 10:44:30 GMT -5
Watching tonight . Good old Friday night Clone Wars, back when’s the premieres used to hit CN on those nights, memories. Being in Europe, I watched TCW on Saturday morning... but these days Saturday morning doesn't exist for me anymore. So no nostalgia for me there. |
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Post by Potato on Aug 3, 2018 10:45:01 GMT -5
I like how Clone Cadets just took place on Kamino and didn't have an actual "villain" (other than Bric but I mean like a Separatist villain). I didn't think about it too much before, but it feels weird now seeing Bounty Hunters training clones... I'm surprised the Jedi trust them for that. Although I guess they're dumb enough to accept an army of clones based off of another Bounty Hunter, so it's not too far fetched.
Also, I kind of wish Bric and Ell-es (?) appeared in ARC Troopers. It would have been cool to see them fight back against the invasion.
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Post by Potato on Aug 3, 2018 10:46:12 GMT -5
Also, did anyone else notice that Cutup had like a slightly different accent from everyone else? I can't quite place it, but it was different from most of the other clones.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 3, 2018 11:02:07 GMT -5
I like how Clone Cadets just took place on Kamino and didn't have an actual "villain" (other than Bric but I mean like a Separatist villain). I didn't think about it too much before, but it feels weird now seeing Bounty Hunters training clones... I'm surprised the Jedi trust them for that. Although I guess they're dumb enough to accept an army of clones based off of another Bounty Hunter, so it's not too far fetched. Also, I kind of wish Bric and Ell-es (?) appeared in ARC Troopers. It would have been cool to see them fight back against the invasion. I guess they based it off of how in the EU Mandalorians trained them. Perfect opportunity to have shown one of the Skiratas here but maybe they didn't want to copy |
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 11:27:57 GMT -5
Also, did anyone else notice that Cutup had like a slightly different accent from everyone else? I can't quite place it, but it was different from most of the other clones. Yeah, I think it was Irish. It’s kinda weird fades in and out but it does in both this episode and Rookies. “Yeah, and we all look nothing alike either.” |
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 11:43:29 GMT -5
I remember not really liking this episode when I first saw it but I've grown to like it more now. Supply Lines is a pretty unique episode in that it follows two stories with very opposite tones. The stories of course are connected and depend on each other but they feel very seperate. On Toydaria, we have what is a pretty serious story about a humanitarian crisis but Jar Jar's very presence makes it feel a bit silly, though I do appreciate that he didn't succeed by accident but instead by purposely appearing foolish. And then of course on Ryloth we have a dramtic fight that ends in the death of most of the characters. This is clearly the stronger of the two plotlines, and Master Di's final scene is very striking and memorable. Of course we all knew he was screwed but they did a very good job making him a strong character in one episode that he really only was on screen for half of. Could have done with more of him though but I know they're stuck within 22 minutes. I have to say also that the episode is a very good lead in to "Ambush." I thought it would feel weird to see Katuunko convinced twice to side with the Republic but it was done as a pretty gradual transition that felt natural when watching these back to back. I'd say this episode is a bit better than I remember. It does a lot although it doesn't feel all that smooth. The episode could do with a few more minutes to breathe although of course I know why that's not possible. 6/10
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 11:45:46 GMT -5
I like how Clone Cadets just took place on Kamino and didn't have an actual "villain" (other than Bric but I mean like a Separatist villain). I didn't think about it too much before, but it feels weird now seeing Bounty Hunters training clones... I'm surprised the Jedi trust them for that. Although I guess they're dumb enough to accept an army of clones based off of another Bounty Hunter, so it's not too far fetched. Also, I kind of wish Bric and Ell-es (?) appeared in ARC Troopers. It would have been cool to see them fight back against the invasion. It also would have been cool to have one of them cameo in the Order 66 arc on Kamino. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 11:58:59 GMT -5
Onto Ambush, the first episode ever. Okay, so this is a fun episode and a pretty nice intro to the show. I really like the setting and some of the music that gives Rugosa its atmosphere. The action scenes are done well for this most part. As a side note, there is a truly ridiculous scene where Rys is helping Thire up while super battle droids fire on them. I'm sorry, I know droids aren't exactly skilled but these two are fucking dead. There's a lot of battle droid humor in this episode but I've never minded that really. My favorite part of this episode is the cave scene. It's surprisingly quiet and poignant, plus the music is good. Although we've already seen "The Hidden Enemy" and "Clone Cadets," in released order, this is the first introduction into a central theme of the series– the clones' individuality. It's quick but I really like this scene. I remember being disappointed that Yoda didn't fight Ventress but I mean he would have kicked her ass. It's a fun episode with the one really good scene and nothing really to complain about. Plus Yoda is great as always. 6/10
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 12:38:07 GMT -5
My favorite quote this week is "Rush not into fights, long is the war, only by surviving it, will you prevail."
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Post by Star on Aug 3, 2018 12:55:42 GMT -5
I think Clone Cadets fits the best when viewed as a prequel to "Rookies" or as table setting for "ARC Troopers." By itself, it's fine, if a bit generic. And not all of it makes that much sense. I understand why Hevy commits to the Dominoes and I buy that character change. But it always bugged me how everyone else seemed to be there by the end with little explanation. Hevy hadn't been the problem with the squad. They started out dysfunctional, Hevy changed, and suddenly they all worked as a team. As Star said, some of 99's dialogue was a bit cliche but idk, it works fine for what the episode is trying to pull off. And the bit of dramatic irony with the medal at the end is effective. This episode is paid off in many future episodes (going up to Season 6) but really it's just a prelude. It does what it set out to do and that makes it average IMO. So 5/10. On a side note, there's something funny about then using "Rookies" in the newsreel. The part with the medal at the end was a good touch. Honestly, by itself the episode is not that great. Given the larger picture however, it's a pretty important foundation episode that serves as a prologue to Rookies like you said. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 3, 2018 16:19:06 GMT -5
Oh my god, I don't think I've seen Clone Cadets since the first time I watched it  And I completely forgot Supply Lines had Jar Jar in it. I'm so ashamed of my memory right now |
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 19:10:58 GMT -5
Also funny is the way Obi-Wan says “Binks”
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 3, 2018 22:09:01 GMT -5
Clone Cadets is kind of a bore... But Shaak Ti is bad 😩😩💦💦
It was a little hard to tell who was who. Probably could've figured it out from the numbers on their armor but I didn't pay attention to that... Cutup definitely had some sort of Irish accent it was weird. But I thought the bit when he's talking about that girl and another clone says he's never met one was funny lol. I always thought El-les was too soft for a traditional bounty hunter but we can probably assume they're just freelancers, not necessarily mercenaries. Although maybe Bric is. I think that is weird, it would make more sense to hire regular people like what they do for navy Admirals.
Kamino looked really good. One problem of watching chronologically is we can't see the progression in the animation but oh well. There was the briefest shot of Kamino at morning without rain. I always thought there was perpetual rain on the planet and never any sun. Huh.
Idk I have to say this was a meh episode. Somehow I didn't even enjoy this as much as I normally do when watching TCW. It felt like a boring war movie. The music even reflected that. Like Star, I was probably more hyped by ARC Troopers. But speaking of first time seeing the ARCs I thought they were badass
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 3, 2018 22:11:09 GMT -5
But they all got medals for pasig basic training? Lmafo
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 3, 2018 22:13:45 GMT -5
It's probably good they made this ep though just so we actually see what's involved in clone training. We also saw there can be defects like 99. But when Lama Su or whoever told Shaak Ti they could get a new dna donor, that's pretty true. Like if the original died and it's making it hard to keep using his dna, why not get a new one? Not like it matters... Or just clone the first clone lol theyd have fairly pure dna
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 3, 2018 22:39:12 GMT -5
Clone Cadets is kinda similar to TCW movie in that it establishes a major character but not in an incredibly creative exciting way. And it’s a little weird since this one’s a flashback episode nad two years after the original. Because of that, it doesn’t really have the charm of a nostalgia trip.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 3, 2018 22:49:10 GMT -5
If they just showed the Ryloth battle, Supply Lines could've been Landing at Point Rain 2. But im actually confused about that. In the Ryloth trilogy, isn't Cham hesitant to fight with the Republic? If this takes place before that, why is he already fighting with them?
Also I think this is the first time we see the Tantive IV? Pretty cool. Still don't understand how anyone would allow Jar Jar to be a politician lmao. Pretty sure he's a savant or something... On the specrum either way. My only sort of explanation would be they can't kick out Jar Jar because the Gungans would think it's racist or something.
I like Lott Dod. Though I don't understand why the Trade Federation has a senator... It's a conglomerate, not a planet. But ok. Interesting how the TF is always trying to say they don't have ties with the Separatists. They must be pretty divided considering their leader, Gunray, is a pretty blatant separatist... I also used to think it was obvious because they use the TF's battle droids but I learned it's actually the Techno Union that builds the droids and supplies them to the Separatists.
Honestly this was more enjoyable than Clone Cadets... Sure it's political stuff but I don't have a huge problem with that. Bail and Lott are pretty cool glad they chose them for this episode. And Toydaria (or at least that main building) looked good
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 3, 2018 23:24:39 GMT -5
Holy shit Ambush is good af... Not sure why I'm just realizing this. I never really gave this episode much thought but it's really good... Best out of this week's three, enjoyed it the most.
I feel like animation was a tad better than the movie. The lighting in the cave was good. Also I think the Clones' faces looked better. And those were some badass Clones... They weren't even prepared for a battle yet they kicked ass. The cave scene was cool. I'm glad they gave more focus on Yoda. Lol they all think he's weird af. Wonder what the Clone was thinking when Yoda jumped on his back... Good droid humor as well. The tank droid flying out gives me a chuckle every time.
Plot wise, the episode does not really make sense... Belligerents of a war are not the best choices for protection from the war itself........ And Toydaria decides who to side with based on who's better at combat? Not based on views or anything? It's not a big deal, I know they can't get too complicated in a show like this and they shouldn't otherwise it wouldn't be as fun.
But yeah really fun episode. I want to watch more season 1 episodes. Most nostalgic
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 3, 2018 23:27:08 GMT -5
There's probably some meme potential for when Yoda is sitting in front of the tanks which is similar to Luke's Crait scene in TLJ... But I'm too lazy so someone else can do that if they want
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 4, 2018 8:32:41 GMT -5
Having watched it for the second time, all I can say about Clone Cadets is just... okay. It's a bit tropey, but I like the insight it offers on early clone life. It's hard to tell which of the squad is whom at times, especially when out of their numbered armour (except for Cutup with his weird flip-flopping accent)and El-Les is one oddly compassionate bounty hunter. What sort of bounties did he specialise in, rescuing pets? I was also disappointed in Shaak-Ti's portrayal. Instead of injecting any personality she's stuck with the whole emotionally distant overseer disposition the Jedi get lumped with all too often. Crucially though, it's just not that exciting, or very memorable. Especially when most of the main characters die in their next episode By the way anyone else think, considering his attitude, clones pull the all too easy gag of "Bric is a Dic" signs on his back? |
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. Good old Friday night Clone Wars, back when’s the premieres used to hit CN on those nights, memories. 
And I completely forgot Supply Lines had Jar Jar in it. I'm so ashamed of my memory right now 
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 